Wednesday, 2021-08-18

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kevko\o/08:44
kevkoyoctozepto: can we continue today ? will you have some time ? 09:10
yoctozeptokevko: CR+2 on the bottom change09:16
yoctozeptokevko: I won't have much time09:17
kevkoyoctozepto: ok 09:22
opendevreviewRadosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Always use the distro-provided libvirt-python  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/80497809:51
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opendevreviewMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove chrony role from kolla  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/79174311:22
yoctozeptomgoddard: could you look at my reasoning in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/80382812:24
opendevreviewMerged openstack/kolla stable/wallaby: base/deb: bump 'system' groups limit beyond Kolla ones  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/80485612:40
opendevreviewVerification of a change to openstack/kolla stable/wallaby failed: Config: allow to set group for user  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/80485512:40
opendevreviewMarc Schmitt proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix haproxy precheck when kolla_externally_managed_cert is used  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/80479314:07
opendevreviewMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/victoria: Fix the Tempest image url variable  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/80490014:23
opendevreviewMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Fix the Tempest image url variable  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/80490114:23
rissonmgoddard: I'll be at today's meeting if you need anything else for https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/80479314:40
yoctozeptorisson: this is good enough for me14:50
yoctozeptothanks for the patch14:50
mgoddardmgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak parallax Fl1nt14:51
mgoddard^ meeting in 1014:51
mgoddardrisson: LGTM, will wait for zuul14:51
rissonsure!14:52
mgoddard#startmeeting kolla15:00
opendevmeetMeeting started Wed Aug 18 15:00:14 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
opendevmeetUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'kolla'15:00
mgoddard#topic rollcall15:00
mgoddard\o15:00
priteauo/15:01
headphoneJameso/15:02
yoctozeptoo/15:02
mgoddard#topic agenda15:04
mgoddard* Roll-call15:04
mgoddard* Agenda15:04
mgoddard* Announcements15:04
mgoddard* Review action items from the last meeting15:04
mgoddard* CI status15:04
mgoddard* Release tasks15:04
mgoddard* Xena cycle planning15:04
mgoddard  ** Prepare cycle highlights15:04
mgoddard  ** Inspur's Venus proposed to Kolla and Kolla Ansible15:04
mgoddard  ** Xena feature prioritisation https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BuVMwP8eLnOVJDX8f3Nb6hCrNcNpRQl57T2ENU9Xao815:04
mgoddard* Open discussion15:04
mgoddard#topic announcements15:04
yoctozeptomnasiadka will be our PTL15:04
yoctozeptolong live kolla :D15:04
mgoddardhold fire yoctozepto 15:04
mgoddard#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-August/024191.html15:05
yoctozeptook, sorry :D15:05
mgoddard#info TC & PTL elections are in progress15:05
mgoddardKolla PTL position is open15:05
mgoddardWe have a nomination from mnasiadka 15:05
yoctozeptothanks mgoddard for those 5 cycles and thanks mnasiadka for nominating himself15:06
priteau+115:06
mgoddardBut of course this is a (weird) democracy, so nominations are still possible!15:06
mgoddard#topic Review action items from the last meeting15:07
mgoddardpriteau to Switch binary images to current release15:07
mgoddardclean up whiteboard priorities15:07
mgoddardmgoddard check in with RDO re CS915:07
mgoddardpriteau did his15:07
priteauSort of. Ubuntu blocked on UCA15:07
priteauI've asked on their IRC channel but no one replied to me15:08
mgoddardah15:08
priteauI will try email contact15:08
mgoddardthanks15:09
mgoddardlooks like yoctozepto cleaned up the whiteboard15:09
mgoddardI did  check in with RDO re CS915:09
mgoddardtl;dr CS9 can wait until yoga15:09
mgoddardXena may get CS9 support in RDO, but it will probably arrive after initial release15:10
yoctozeptoI did clean up, yes15:10
mgoddard#topic CI status15:11
mgoddardCI seems ok15:11
mgoddardis anyone aware of issues?15:12
yoctozeptojust regular randoms15:12
yoctozeptonothing blocked as far as I saw15:12
* yoctozepto glad15:12
priteauSame in Kayobe15:12
mgoddardcan someone approve https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/804455 to fix debian upgrades?15:12
mgoddard#topic Release tasks15:15
mgoddardwe are in R-715:15
mgoddardcycle highlights deadline is 2 weeks away15:15
mgoddardlet's look at those now15:16
mgoddard#topic Prepare cycle highlights15:16
mgoddard#link https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/kolla/unreleased.html15:16
mgoddard#link https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/kolla-ansible/unreleased.html15:17
mgoddard#link https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/kayobe/unreleased.html15:17
mgoddardwe need 4-5 highlights15:17
yoctozeptokolla ansible looks most promising15:19
yoctozeptothough most are wallaby as well15:20
mgoddard* Hashi vault integration15:20
mgoddard* ansible performance15:21
yoctozeptowork on performance and reliability yes15:21
mgoddardthat's all I'm seeing15:21
yoctozeptomultiple inventories perhaps?15:22
yoctozeptoit's simple but perhaps nice to let users know15:22
mgoddardI expect (hope) we'll have more by the end of our cycle15:22
mgoddardwe don't need to use fillers at this point15:22
yoctozeptook15:23
yoctozeptothen I agree on both bullets so far15:23
opendevreviewMerged openstack/kolla stable/wallaby: Config: allow to set group for user  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/80485515:24
mgoddardlet's leave it there then15:25
mgoddard#action mgoddard propose initial cycle highlights15:25
mgoddard#topic Inspur's Venus proposed to Kolla and Kolla Ansible15:25
mgoddardyoctozepto?15:26
yoctozeptoyes15:27
yoctozeptowhat is our stance on that?15:27
yoctozeptovenus has proposed to become an official OpenStack project15:27
yoctozeptothey have proposed patches to add venus to kolla and kolla-ansible15:27
yoctozeptoI invited them to join our meeting for any questions but unsure if they are around15:27
yoctozeptobrinzhang_ seems to be here15:28
yoctozeptofrom my POV, there is nothing blocking us policy-wise from accepting Venus15:28
yoctozeptojust need a regular code review15:28
yoctozeptowdyt?15:28
mgoddardwe can add any code we like15:28
yoctozeptohttps://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22venus%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged)15:29
mgoddardI'd say it's more from a sustainability perspective, an official project it more likely to survive15:29
yoctozeptomgoddard: yeah, but I remember there were some sustainability questions15:29
yoctozeptoyes15:29
yoctozeptohttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/80482415:30
yoctozeptoI think TC would also be eager to accept Venus15:30
yoctozeptobut I need to wait till tomorrow's meeting to know more15:31
yoctozeptoany doubts to solve at this point?15:31
mgoddardshould we wait for a green light from the TC?15:33
yoctozeptoI don't think we need to15:34
yoctozeptoas we can easily unblock our gates15:34
yoctozeptothe question is perhaps whether we don't want to request venus scenario15:35
yoctozeptorecently we've been adding new projects with scenarios (vide masakari)15:35
mgoddardhow would we prioritise it?15:36
mgoddardaccording to renos we haven't merged any significant features this cycle...15:37
yoctozeptoyeah, honestly, I would prioritise this15:38
yoctozeptowe have the proxysql stack from kevko that looks reasonable15:39
yoctozeptoand the tls work by headphoneJames15:39
yoctozeptoand this Venus15:39
mgoddardwe have a ton of things15:39
mgoddardhow would venus interact with our existing fluentd/elastic setup?15:41
yoctozeptoyeah, that's a good question; I understand it replaces it15:42
yoctozeptobut can15:42
yoctozeptocan't tell for sure15:42
yoctozeptoI have not seen it in action in k-a yet15:43
mgoddarddo we want to rip out what we have and replace it?15:43
mgoddardFor me this comes back to the issue of prioritisation15:45
mgoddardwe don't have a good way to visualise our work in progress, and prioritise it15:46
yoctozeptoyeah, I'm thinking15:46
mgoddardhow can we weigh up venus against everything else in flight?15:46
yoctozeptoas a side note, I remember you had issues with monasca15:46
yoctozeptoI understand this would replace monasca as well15:46
yoctozeptothat's a very good question that you have15:46
mgoddarddoes it provide an API to users?15:46
yoctozeptomgoddard: last inspur's answer to that was inconclusive15:47
yoctozeptoperhaps let's collect questions to ask and ask them15:48
mgoddardI'd like to see a paragraph or two about how it fits into kolla, what it replaces, and what it adds15:48
yoctozeptoas for stuff prioritisation; I asked kevko to sum up the patches that make up his proxysql effort15:48
yoctozeptoso that at least helps to grasp where the parts are15:49
yoctozeptowe used the whiteboard for that15:49
yoctozeptook, I'm writing down what to ask for15:49
mgoddardok15:52
mgoddard#action yoctozepto to get more info about venus15:52
yoctozeptook15:53
mgoddardseems like whatever we want to know the TC should also know before accepting15:53
yoctozeptonot really15:53
yoctozeptoTC does not care whether it replaces elasticsearch (-:15:53
yoctozeptobut yeah, mostly15:53
yoctozeptoI will be their liaison anyhow so will get most interaction15:54
mgoddardTC should have a reasonable idea of how the thing works and what it does IMO15:54
yoctozeptoyeah, that part yes15:54
yoctozeptobut I was playing on that "whatever" ;p15:54
mgoddard#topic Open discussion15:54
mgoddardDoes anyone have anything to discuss?15:55
yoctozeptonot me15:55
mgoddardDo we need to change the time of the meeting/15:55
mgoddardmnasiadka is rarely here for it15:55
yoctozeptoyeah, do you know why?15:55
yoctozeptoyou work together15:55
mgoddardwhich may become a problem in a few weeks15:55
yoctozeptoor should I interrogate him in our mother tongue?15:56
yoctozepto:D15:56
mgoddardwell, it's 17:00 - 18:00 so I guess he's being a dad15:56
yoctozeptoyeah, you can probably relate15:56
yoctozeptoI can't15:56
mgoddard#action mgoddard ask mnasiadka about meeting time15:57
yoctozeptogreat15:58
mgoddardlet's finish early, have 2 minutes back15:58
priteauRegarding Xena binary images, I have email two people at Canonical15:58
mgoddardthanks all15:58
priteauHopefully it will be unblocked soon15:58
mgoddardthanks priteau 15:58
mgoddard#endmeeting15:59
opendevmeetMeeting ended Wed Aug 18 15:59:03 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:59
opendevmeetMinutes:        https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-08-18-15.00.html15:59
opendevmeetMinutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-08-18-15.00.txt15:59
opendevmeetLog:            https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-08-18-15.00.log.html15:59
mgoddard^ possibly my last meeting as PTL...16:00
yoctozeptothanks mgoddard, you will be remembered well16:01
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mgoddardtoo kind yoctozepto 16:06
priteaumgoddard: Aren't you technically PTL until the end of the election process, three weeks from now?16:09
mgoddardpriteau: not unless there are multiple candidates16:10
priteauSure, but then it would mean projects that do have elections have a different PTL term than projects that don't. Bit odd.16:12
mnasiadkaMeeting time is ok, just my calendar entry expired :)16:12
priteauhttps://meetings.opendev.org/calendars/kolla-team-meeting.ics16:12
mgoddardmnasiadka: hopefully you will update your calendar before next week :p16:15
mnasiadkamgoddard: I'll try my best :)16:15
yoctozeptomnasiadka: lol for the excuse16:15
mnasiadkaDoes anybody know how RDO is planning for CentOS 9 Stream?16:16
mnasiadkaI remember Xena was to be on CS916:17
mnasiadkaah, checked the logs, thanks mgoddard 16:18
mnasiadkayoctozepto: so then bumping up haproxy for CentOS as well makes sense16:20
yoctozeptomnasiadka: yeah, it seems so16:23
yoctozeptoin the worst case we will just drop it later16:23
mnasiadkaok, will add Debian/Ubuntu PPA to the mix and ask nicely for reviews16:24
mnasiadkaBut I'm off tomorrow and day after - so will happen next week.16:24
opendevreviewWill Szumski proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add support for seed hypervisor custom VMs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/78362717:55
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