Wednesday, 2016-12-14

sayantan_srwilkers replied to your comments :)00:00
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srwilkersgerrits running slow for me. I agree with your comments on both counts00:04
kfox1111yeah. gerrit's running rather slow for me too now.00:05
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helmize neutron db stuff  https://review.openstack.org/41033600:06
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: DNM: Kube 1.5.0.beta.1 (Ceph PVC) Gate  https://review.openstack.org/41046900:11
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jascott1and we use distro release because thats what majority folks do or some other rationale?00:18
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portdirectjascott1: not sure - I much prefer using upstream if possible personally, and its what is recomended for docker in the kolla docs00:21
kfox1111weird...00:22
kfox1111petset broke as soon as helm 2.1.00:22
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sdakewow irc busy00:22
portdirectyeah its not in it00:22
sdakewhats up folks00:22
jascott1a clean break00:22
portdirectits gone with api 1.500:22
kfox1111will kubeclient switch stateful set back to pet set on 1.4?00:22
jascott1whats up sdake00:22
portdirectno00:22
portdirecthey sdake :)00:22
sdakeall day meetings is whats up00:22
* sdake groans00:22
jascott1oh noes00:23
kfox1111so, you must have 2.1+1.5 or 2.0+1.4 but no mixing?00:23
sdakeas my father says, Cisco would get alot more done if they had less meetings.00:23
portdirectif you want petsets/statefull sets00:23
jascott1sounds like, what about k8s and petset in 1.5, its gone right?00:23
kfox1111sdake: I've been told on multiple occations, meetings are work by definition. or else some poeples lives are devoted to not getting work done.00:23
sdakekfox1111 these meetings were definately work00:24
kfox1111sdake: heh. yeah. I get that.00:24
sdakenow i must go feed myself before i starve to death00:25
sdakefolks mind catching me up on the state of upstream version madness? :)00:25
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sdakehelm 2.1 + kubernetes 1.5 works properly?00:25
kfox1111sdake: k8s 1.5.0 has been released.00:26
kfox1111its buggy.00:26
kfox1111so they cut a 1.5.1 release.00:26
kfox1111repos have not been updated yet though.00:26
kfox1111helm just released 2.1 that works with 1.5.100:26
sdakehelm 2.1 + kubernetes 1.5.1 are working?00:26
kfox1111but its broken for us against 1.4.x00:26
sdakeupgrade to kubernetes 1.5.1 takes what?  changing all the alpha json?00:26
kfox1111so, we're stuck with helm 2.0.x and k8s 1.4 until k8s 1.5 lands in the repo.00:27
portdirectsdake: bit bigger than that00:27
kfox1111sdake: sed 's/petset/statefulset/' I believe.00:27
kfox1111portdirect: anything else I missed?00:27
sdakeya petset stateful set got that part00:27
portdirectkfox1111: init containers have become a bit more strict (but we already meet the newq reqs afaik)00:28
srwilkershey sdake o/00:28
sdakesup srwilkers00:28
portdirectkfox1111: (need to specify pull policy)00:28
kfox1111portdirect: oh. pull policy isn't implicit anymore?00:28
portdirectkfox1111: bigh chnaged to dynamic pvc supoprt in that we can have it now :)00:28
srwilkerssdake, not much. working on getting glance api/registry up. wifes wanting to pull me away to watch movies :(00:28
kfox1111portdirect: I was thinking we'd want to make pull policy vars anyway.00:28
sdakesrwilkers i hear that, i want to see rogue00:28
srwilkerssdake, same00:29
kfox1111portdirect: Yeah. thats additive though.00:29
sdakemy wufe is seriously ill with a cold00:29
portdirectwas just giving the low down00:29
kfox1111so, service rename, and vars for pull policy. anything else?00:29
portdirectalso i think etcd 3 is not recommended - but need to confirm that00:29
portdirect*now00:29
sdakeso, hate to do it00:29
sdakebut can we score a blueprint or porting to the latest upstream00:30
kfox1111pull pollicy really is a requirement now?00:30
portdirectyes00:30
kfox1111that seems like a v1 api breakage.00:30
sdakeor/for00:30
sdakewith a list of work items?00:30
kfox1111sdake: yeah. blueprint would be a good idea.00:30
sdakeok - i'll make he blueprint00:30
sdakecan other people that know the problems fill in the work items?00:30
portdirectcheers sdake :)00:30
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portdirectthinkit should only take 30 mis to move over00:31
portdirect(I hope...)00:31
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sdakemove to new version you mean?00:31
portdirectyes00:31
sdaketry to break stuff up into multiple patches00:31
sdakefaster reviews that way00:31
sdakeslower dev time unfortunately00:31
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helmize neutron db stuff  https://review.openstack.org/41033600:32
kfox1111sdake: I think that one blueprint will need to be atomic.00:32
sdakekfox1111 use Depends-On:00:33
sdakethe gate isn't voting00:33
kfox1111helm -> 2.1, k8s -> 1.5, fixes for 1.5 compat.00:33
kfox1111ah. depends-on. forgot about that one.00:33
kfox1111+100:33
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sdakejust dont 'merge the first patch in teh depends-on tree00:33
sdakethen everone can work on it indivudally00:33
sdakeand when its ready to merge00:33
kfox1111sdake: we probably should make it voting. everyone's honoring it anyway.00:33
sdakeagree, lets make it voting after this change00:33
kfox1111+100:33
sdakebut thats a policy change, so need to discuss at wednesday meeting00:34
sdakeas in tomorrow morning :)00:34
kfox1111lets put it on the list then.00:34
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sdakehttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/move-to-latest-deps00:35
sdakekfox1111 can you approve that pls00:36
sdakeand approve it00:36
kfox1111sdake: aparently, I don't have enough rights to do so.00:36
sdakeyou should...00:36
sdakemoment let me check00:36
sdakekfox1111 must have got missed in the reorg of the drivers teams00:38
sdaketry not00:38
sdaketry now rather00:38
kfox1111sdake: no worries.00:39
kfox1111trying00:39
kfox1111still no. :/00:40
sdakekfox1111?00:40
kfox1111there are two of me in the db. the one I usually use is kevpn00:40
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kfox1111stems from the whole legal-discuss thing from a while back.00:40
sdakedont need to know ;)00:41
sdakecan you try now00:41
kfox1111yup.00:42
kfox1111done.00:42
sdakecool00:42
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kfox1111thanks. :)00:43
sdakedirection, definition, implementaiton need to be set00:43
srwilkersoh, speaking of the drivers team sdake, i think you asked me about that one morning last week and i dont think we finished that conversation00:43
duonghqhey guys00:43
kfox1111duonghq: hi00:43
sdakesrwilkers sure - my daughter is harassing me to take her to dinner right now00:43
sdakesrwilkers can we discuss wwhen I get back?00:43
srwilkerssdake, no worries -- yep00:43
sdakeif you want me to add you no problem00:43
srwilkerssdake, ill be here00:43
duonghqportdirect, ping00:43
sdakesrwilkers but i just can't do it right now00:44
portdirecto/00:44
srwilkerssdake, not a problem00:44
sdakei'll be back in 2-3 hrs00:44
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sdakeok ppls please fill out work itmes in that blueprint00:44
sdakelook at other blueprints for formatting00:44
sdaketry to split up work00:44
sdakeso everyone has something to wokr on ;)00:44
duonghqportdirect, I heard sdake told that you and sbezverk_ are working on service layer?00:44
sdakeok ott jet00:44
sdakebye00:44
duonghqcya sdake00:45
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portdirectsnd sdake exits stage left :D00:45
portdirect*and00:45
duonghqhe left too fast :(00:45
sbezverk_duonghq: yes I am looking into it00:45
duonghqdo you have any draft on it?00:45
kfox1111portdirect: lets brainstorm a solution to the ceph client thing...00:46
duonghqor any direction, goals definition?00:46
kfox1111forking the container seems like a bad thing. :/00:46
kfox1111what ceph bits does it actually need?00:46
portdirectkfox1111: 2 sec00:47
kfox1111portdirect: k.00:47
portdirectduonghq: i think that its a bit early to get working on the service layer just yet, we really need to dicuss this as a group00:47
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duonghqso, what can I do in helm atm?00:48
portdirectduonghq: I hope that we can start this tomorrow at the meeting, would you be able to wait initill then?00:48
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duonghqsure, I'll join the meeting as usual, except some kind of shark eat our cable00:48
portdirectlol00:49
duonghqbut atm, what can I do for helm?00:49
portdirectat the moment thatr is still quite a lot to to, 2 sec00:49
portdirectI ahve got behind on the ceph implentation using the original microservice layer, do you want to split that?00:49
duonghqwhat do you mean original microservice layer?00:50
duonghqI'm out of the loop for awhile00:50
portdirectyes00:50
duonghqcan you give me some ps if it's available?00:50
portdirectif you could work on converting the osd, that would be awesome :)00:51
duonghqI need some for details on "converting",00:51
duonghq*some more*00:51
portdirectok, sry my messages are exploding :)00:51
portdirectkfox1111: can you help desribe the current approach to conversion to duonghq?00:52
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kfox1111portdirect: sure.00:52
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kfox1111duonghq: we're converting from our jinja2 based engine, to helm for rendering.00:53
kfox1111we're taking a layered aproach, so for the bottom most layer, one helm package per k8s object.00:53
duonghqah, you mean converting from jinja2 in ansible to gotpl in helm?00:53
kfox1111so stuff in services/xxx/yyy.yaml are going into helm/microservices/xxx-yyy/00:54
kfox1111duonghq: yeah.00:54
kfox1111duonghq: an example is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41033600:54
duonghqah, ok, I knew this progress, thought that portdirect is talking something else00:55
kfox1111ah. ok.00:55
kfox1111yeah. there are templates for services/ceph/ceph-osd.yaml.j2 I think that still have to be converted. I think that was what his suggestion was.00:55
duonghqkfox1111, thank you, so the microservice layer has not completed yet?00:56
portdirectno00:56
portdirectnot yet00:56
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kfox1111still ongoing.00:58
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kfox1111progress can be tracked here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/helm-microservices00:58
duonghqroger, the bp work items  is quite coarse00:59
duonghqwe (I and somebody) talked about break down it iirc00:59
kfox1111yeah. if you want to take a work item ,and only work on part of it, feel free to split it up under work items.00:59
duonghqokay00:59
duonghqneed taking a look at ceph-osd bit in kolla-ansible01:00
duonghqthank you kfox1111, portdirect01:00
kfox1111its quite a bit different in kolla-ansible I think.01:00
portdirectok kfox1111, lets talk k8s 1.5 pvcs01:00
kfox1111the jinja2 version is already working, so mosty just needs jinja2ism's convered to gotlisms.01:01
kfox1111portdirect: k. pvcs.01:01
kfox1111+1 to pvc's with ceph. :)01:01
kfox1111now, how to get there? :/01:01
portdirectthe upstream google_cloud container will not include the ceph-common libs, so the will either need to be installed manually iside a container eg:https://github.com/portdirect/dockerfiles/blob/master/kube-controller-manager/Dockerfile01:02
portdirector you will need to install the binary on the host with the ceph-common pkg01:02
kfox1111portdirect: they dont support c libs do they? so do they exec out to the tools?01:03
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portdirecti dont see either being an issue in production, but it does rasie the question of how we handle it in the gate01:03
portdirectyes01:03
kfox1111it can pass it through from the host?01:03
portdirectsorry phrasing01:03
portdirectnot without major hacks - thats a bad idea01:03
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for glance api and glance registry pods  https://review.openstack.org/41048101:04
kfox1111(no worries. just trying to understand exactly the potential isues/possible workarounds)01:04
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portdirectall good :)01:04
srwilkersfair warning, my cluster ate it tonight. didnt test that locally. just throwing it to the gate to see what sticks :/01:04
kfox1111what distro is it based on?01:04
portdirectwhat?01:04
kfox1111and what does it use from the tools?01:04
kfox1111the container in question.01:04
portdirectlink above01:04
portdirectubuntuL:16.04 is what the aic guys are using but we coul use centos or anything else, just need the ceph client01:05
kfox1111was thinking more upstream. would it be better to use upstream's container and land ceph in it, or01:05
kfox1111start from a different distro and add the controller to it?01:06
kfox1111does it only need rbd?01:06
portdirectah - i think tbh if its an issue for you then a kola controller manager container would be the best solution.01:06
kfox1111or does it need other tools?01:06
portdirectI cannot ansewer that qwuestion truthfully i'm afraid - i think it only needs rbs, but may be wrong01:07
portdirect*rbd01:07
kfox1111(I'm kind of round about asking should we pull something clever like we did with ceph-rbd?)01:07
portdirecti think clever lead to pain here01:07
kfox1111mismatched ceph clients can be painful too. :/01:07
portdirectwhy not just do what upstream recommends?01:08
kfox1111what does upstream recommend?01:08
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm chart for Cinder API service  https://review.openstack.org/41036201:08
portdirectalso the mismatch was why i recommened ad kolla container01:08
kfox1111yeah. just trying to understand/weigh all the tradeoffs.01:08
kfox1111have a link to upstream recommending an aproach?01:09
portdirecthttps://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/34c873a748bf2e45839d1e3f178470d837f1a587/examples/experimental/persistent-volume-provisioning/README.md#ceph-rbd-101:10
portdirectthey dont cover in container01:10
portdirecthttps://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/tree/34c873a748bf2e45839d1e3f178470d837f1a587/examples/experimental/persistent-volume-provisioning/rbd01:11
portdirectif you want to play with what ive been working with, this will get you a running cluster on k8s with upstream containers: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/intlabs/91efe781ebd429af345caff65e5373d3/raw/33611963f48113dffe98d3a8958b0c7f632eaeee/ceph-halycon.sh01:12
kfox1111portdirect: so, https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/34c873a748bf2e45839d1e3f178470d837f1a587/examples/experimental/persistent-volume-provisioning/README.md#pre-requisites01:12
portdirectusing halcyon-k8s and romana cni01:12
kfox1111says its rbd thats required.01:12
portdirectyeap01:12
kfox1111and we have kubelet's prereq handled.01:12
portdirectyeap01:13
portdirectsorry i thought we were talking about the controller manager?01:13
kfox1111hmm...01:13
kfox1111we are.01:13
kfox1111just reading the whole prereqs.01:13
kfox1111so, there's only 3 ways I can see to make it work... 1. pass a staticly linked rbd through to the container. since it isn't now, that would require buildign custom software.01:14
kfox1111not a fan of that.01:14
portdirect+10001:14
portdirect(to not being a fan)01:15
kfox11112. pass our rbd script from ceph-rbd through, like we do with kubelet01:15
kfox1111bigest issue with that, is we'd have to pass the docker socket through too... and then docker would be a problem...01:16
kfox1111so 2 probably woudn't work either.01:16
portdirectyeah - it think a custom container is bay far the least hacky way01:16
portdirectalanmeadows is spot on in his approach01:17
kfox1111yeah, 3 would be custom container...01:17
kfox1111or 4...01:17
kfox1111custom pod...01:17
portdirectwhy?01:17
kfox1111ok... let me play with an idea for a second...01:18
kfox1111you have a pod for upstream controller shipped by google.01:18
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kfox1111it has a binary in it that is all tested and happy, and, they like to statically link.01:18
kfox1111could you... create a two pod solution, that had a shared dir between them, had the startup of the google provide container copy its controller to the volume, and kolla's ceph container start up and run it?01:19
kfox1111then google's stuff is googles, and kolla's clients/os is kolla's.01:19
kfox1111(not sujre its a good idea at all, or feasable in any way)01:19
kfox1111kind of feels a bit dirty from the testabiltiy standpoint...01:20
portdirecti dont like that, the statuc binary they use is here: http://storage.googleapis.com/kubernetes-release/release/v1.5.1/bin/linux/amd64/kube-controller-manager01:20
portdirectwhoops thats not here yest01:20
kfox1111option 3 feels a bit dirty from the forking/mixing providers standpoint.01:20
portdirectbut 1.5.001:21
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portdirecti really dont think so, ist a sticly linked binary in a container - that doesn seem dirty to me?01:21
kfox1111ok. yeah. I think probably releasing our own is probably the cleanest. just needed a bit of time to think through the options.01:22
kfox1111well..01:22
kfox1111arg..01:22
portdirectcoolgle just use alpine or debina for their containerss afaik01:22
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kfox1111its in the kind of ugly space we wanted to avoid though.01:22
kfox1111"use any k8s you want".01:22
kfox1111not, "use your own k8s, but switch out the controller with ours". :/01:22
portdirectthats why i think deploys should do it themselves01:23
kfox1111but, I guess it could be worded this way...01:23
portdirectand we only need a solution for our gate01:23
kfox1111"use any k8s you want. if you want to use k8s with ceph, and it doesn't already have support, you can use this container insteadl"01:23
kfox1111batteries included phylosophy.01:23
portdirectyeah  - this is aproblem that im sure people like seb han are already on01:24
kfox1111yeah. ok.01:24
kfox1111so, probably best to get it into kolla proper.01:24
kfox1111centos/ubuntu base container based with the static binary thrown in?01:25
portdirectand rbd01:25
kfox1111yeah. sorry. meant kolla's centos/ubuntu base. which i think has ceph?01:26
portdirectif thats easier to build01:26
kfox1111portdirect: something like: kolla/docker/openvswitch/openvswitch-base/Dockerfile.j2 ?01:27
kfox1111but FROM and MAINTINER in tact, then pull the binary and set the default command?01:27
portdirectactually id dump the lot01:29
portdirect2 sec01:29
kfox1111yeah. dump it all but the from and maintainer.01:30
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portdirect:) yeah - http://paste.openstack.org/raw/592286/01:30
kfox1111portdirect: +101:31
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portdirectnice - then its easy enough to do the sed hack in the gate01:32
portdirectkubeadm will suport customi mages in the next version or two - as I think gcr.io is blocked in china and not may corps like it01:33
kfox1111yeah.01:33
kfox1111+1. even corperate firewalls block stuff. they will need to support the use case.01:34
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kfox1111and so will we.01:34
portdirectat the moment the official advice is to proload retagged images onto your box before running it :/01:34
kfox1111heh. ugly. but workable. :/01:34
portdirectwhy we are using the sha rather than the tag for one of the people i work with01:35
kfox1111it would be interesting to make a gate job, that pulled from a prebuilt set of containers,01:35
kfox1111and then had iptables rules to block the major container registries. and ensure it still works.01:35
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portdirectRHELs security docs just tellk yo to add docker.io to 127.0.0.1 in your hosts file (at least they used to)01:36
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kfox1111ah. that would work too.01:37
kfox1111but would have to add other repos too.01:37
kfox1111like google's.01:37
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portdirectyeah i rememebr reading that when docker was the only player in town, like back in the 0.11 days01:38
kfox1111yeah. makes sense.01:38
kfox1111gota run.01:39
kfox1111can you submit the kolla container we were talking about?01:39
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for glance api and glance registry pods  https://review.openstack.org/41048101:40
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kfox1111damn....01:42
kfox1111http://logs.openstack.org/36/410336/5/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-centos-binary-external-ovs-nv/95d0f75/console.html01:42
kfox1111another case of "Error: transport is closing" from tiller01:42
kfox1111and dns was for sure responsive this time...01:42
kfox1111http://logs.openstack.org/36/410336/5/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-centos-binary-external-ovs-nv/95d0f75/console.html#_2016-12-14_00_44_20_87111601:43
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v1k0d3nhey all01:56
v1k0d3nhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/installation-docs-refactor01:56
v1k0d3nthoughts?01:56
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portdirectkfox1111: no probs - will get it up asap02:07
portdirectv1k0d3n: interesting, could solve some of our issues maybe?02:08
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portdirectso you're meaning a spec that cover the operator experience that we should be aming for? (in whatever form that may be)02:09
portdirectlike day 0, and then how we will make sure that day 2 is good as well?02:09
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srwilkersportdirect, thats the way im reading it02:11
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portdirectsbezverk_: about?02:11
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portdirectsrwilkers: do you have any time to work on that?02:13
srwilkersportdirect, yep02:14
portdirectcool - I'd be up for helping02:14
portdirectdo you have wiki access?02:15
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zhubingbinghi guys02:17
zhubingbinghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/410089/02:17
zhubingbingwho can help me review it ?02:17
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for glance api and glance registry pods  https://review.openstack.org/41048102:18
srwilkerszhubingbing, ill take a gander02:18
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zhubingbingwow thank you very much02:19
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v1k0d3nportdirect: that was my hope. just better clarity.02:20
srwilkerszhubingbing, no problem02:22
zhubingbingthank you02:22
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zhubingbingI'm now doing heka migrations to flunted ;)02:23
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portdirectv1k0d3n: makes sense - I'll try and get it brought up in the meeting tomorrow, as we begin to work on the service layers https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/helm-services , it would help for us all to be on the same page about how they shoud/could look02:23
Jeffrey4lmorning guys02:24
portdirecthey Jeffrey4l :)02:24
Jeffrey4lsup portdirect02:24
srwilkershey Jeffrey4l02:25
Jeffrey4li saw the talk you and sayantan_. seems the configuration file install by pip is kinda issue.  hrm, will try to improve it today.02:25
Jeffrey4lhi srwilkers ;)02:25
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portdirectJeffrey4l: I cannot log into the wiki (infra are working on my account/the login system...) but have a few things I'd like to try and get on the agenda for the kolla-k8s section of the meeting tomorrow, if i sent them through to you could you add them for me?02:26
Jeffrey4lportdirect, np.02:26
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portdirectthanks Jeffrey4l, I'll send you a pm in a 2 mins02:27
Jeffrey4lOK02:27
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for bootstrapping cinder database  https://review.openstack.org/41050402:28
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for glance api and glance registry pods  https://review.openstack.org/41048102:42
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openstackgerritWei Cao proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Remove docker directories in README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/41051202:53
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sbezverk_portdirect: what is up?02:53
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duonghqsup sdake02:55
sdakesup peeps02:55
sp_sup sdake duonghq02:57
srwilkershello sdake02:57
sdakeduonghq did portdirect answer ure q on the service layer02:57
sdakeand if so what was it ? :)02:57
sdakehe ysr02:57
sdakehey srwilkers02:57
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duonghqsdake, portdirect  and kfox1111  answered my question, thanks, it should be a topic in next meeting02:58
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sdakei hope someone is writing all these next topics down in the agenda :)02:58
sdakesay - what are the work items here; https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/move-to-latest-deps02:59
sdakesrwilkers you wanted to talk about the drivers team?02:59
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srwilkerssdake, yeah. you mentioned the possibility of adding my name there and what it'd entail. hands off the blueprints and specs, but i think the extra eyes and hands for triaging bugs would help the community as we move forward. it'd give me a chance to learn a little more and frees up some bandwidth for the core team to focus on reviews03:02
openstackgerritSurya Prakash Singh proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Implement Keystone zero-downtime upgrade  https://review.openstack.org/40521503:02
sdakethe drivers team doesn't have +2/-2 ability03:03
sdakethe drivers team can manage launchpad03:03
sdakei'm not real hung up on approval of blueprints or not03:03
sdakethere needs to be a general consensus the blueprint should be approved03:03
sdakeand the bueprint should be filed by a third party03:03
sdakeand handled prpoerly03:04
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sdakei'm happy to add you03:04
sdakewhat is your launchpa did03:04
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portdirectsdake: oh I didnt relaise I had that power, is that why I was able to edit the spec you posted?03:04
sdakewhich spec portdirect ?03:04
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portdirectoh sory the bluebrint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/move-to-latest-deps03:05
srwilkerssrwilker on launchpad03:05
sdakeright03:05
sdakeok moemnt03:05
sdakeatt.com or outlook.com?03:06
sdakenm got it03:06
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for creating and managing the Glance database  https://review.openstack.org/40953803:08
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sdakeportdirect can you fill otu the work items?03:09
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sdakeportdirect do you need help to do that? :)03:09
sdakeportdirect i don't know what the work items are as I was absent from IRC today03:10
portdirecton it right now :) - I'll ping you to check in a min03:10
sdakesouns good03:10
sdakeput in work Items section at bottom of page03:10
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for bootstrapping cinder database  https://review.openstack.org/41050403:12
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portdirectsdake: whats status txt for not started/unassigned?03:15
sdakeTODO03:15
portdirectcheers03:16
sdake(unassigned)item: TODO03:16
sdakestarted is INPROGRESS03:16
portdirectshould i put kolla for somthing we need to do as a whole:03:16
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for glance api and glance registry pods  https://review.openstack.org/41048103:16
portdirect(kolla)decide on which of Helm or K8s we place priority on tracking: TODO03:16
sdakenah that would be (unassigned)03:16
portdirectk03:17
sdakesomeone woudl need to take that on03:17
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sdakei think we want to track upstream as much as possible03:17
sdakeunless upstream is busted all the time03:17
sdakethe problem with deps that tag DOA builds is that voting gates are not a possibility03:17
sdakeas the gate will block03:17
portdirectI got Jeffrey4l, to add it to tomorrows agenda, I feel the same way as you but we should make sure we are all aligned03:17
sdakewfm03:18
sdakein kolla we use docker-engine lateset03:18
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sdakerather kolla-ansible03:18
portdirectyeah, I'd like to as well but know kfox1111 would like tests for both03:19
sdakethat could of course change in teh future depending on the future ofdocker itself :)03:19
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sdaketests for both of what03:19
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sdakei guess we can discuss tomorrow03:19
portdirectdkr03:19
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sdakeya now we got 3 deps to deal with :)03:20
portdirectjust like pokemon, gotta get em all :)03:20
sdakei've never actually worked on a deliverable that did gating correctly from the beginning03:20
sdakewhich is why kolla and kolla-ansible gating are not al lthat ideal :)03:21
portdirectyeah last night was fun there03:21
sdakei guess i missed that03:21
sdakelots of dayjob work atm03:21
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portdirectHorizon bug slipped thorough kolla, kolla-k8s is the only one that gats it I think atm03:22
sdakeyup - thats why we need cross repo gating :)03:22
sdakedon't have time to solve that problem personally :)03:23
sdakerepo splits create all kinds of hassle03:24
sdakehence why i wanted everything in one repo03:24
sdakebut i get it, thee community voted and thats what we got :)03:24
portdirectsdake: ok ?https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/move-to-latest-deps03:24
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sdakedecides aren't really work items03:25
sdakebut makes sense to keep em in there03:26
sdakework items are work that is done03:26
sdakedeciding isn't work, its making a choice03:26
portdirectoh sdake, have you ever been to a meeting?03:26
* portdirect hides03:26
sdakei try to avoid them03:27
sdakebut ya - been to plenty03:27
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sdakesup coolsvap03:27
sdakehow u been03:27
coolsvaphey sdake03:27
coolsvapi am getting better03:28
sdakebeen missing yuo because of tzz things03:28
sdaketz things03:28
coolsvapno I was out of office since long03:28
sdakeoh didn't know03:28
coolsvapwas pretty sick in nov03:28
sdakeya nov and april03:28
sdakefucked up months03:28
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm chart for Cinder API service  https://review.openstack.org/41036203:30
srwilkershey coolsvap :)03:30
coolsvapsrwilkers: hi :)03:30
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm chart for cinder-scheduler  https://review.openstack.org/41052503:35
sdakesrwilkers just so you are aware if you work on other openstack projects, drivers team is usually = core team03:37
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sdakein kolla drivers team is more like people that contribute so they can modify launchpad03:37
sdakewe extend more trust to our drivers team then other projects do03:38
sdakebecause that is how we roll :)03:38
sdake1% power - bb when powe rdies :)03:38
sdakeneed to head inside in a bit03:38
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for bootstrapping cinder database  https://review.openstack.org/41050403:42
sdakewhat fascinates me is why my laptop says 0% power yet is still running03:42
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for bootstrapping cinder database  https://review.openstack.org/41050403:43
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm chart for Cinder API service  https://review.openstack.org/41036203:44
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openstackgerritshaofeng cheng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Replace Kolla with kolla-ansible in README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/41052803:51
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for creating and managing the Glance database  https://review.openstack.org/40953803:55
portdirectsrwilkers: you trying to break zuul? :)03:56
srwilkersportdirect, :x03:57
srwilkersnot intentionally anyway03:57
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for glance api and glance registry pods  https://review.openstack.org/41048104:02
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm chart for cinder-scheduler  https://review.openstack.org/41052504:14
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for creating and managing the Glance database  https://review.openstack.org/40953804:24
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v1k0d3nsdake_: you there?04:39
sdake_shoot04:39
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v1k0d3nshould alanmeadows and i come tomorrow to discuss the compatibility with upstream portion of the meeting04:41
v1k0d3nwe could probably shed the most light on that04:41
sdakeif that is on the agenda04:42
sdakemoment04:42
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sdakehttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kolla04:42
sdakeall that is needed is to add the item to the agenda04:43
sdakeanyone can add any agenda item they like04:43
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sdakeuse the log in button to edit04:44
sdakeJeffrey4l runs off the agenda04:44
v1k0d3nsdake: just fwiw...the helm chart that we've properly worked is keystone (just in case there are any comparisons made).04:46
v1k0d3ncan't defend what is in something like...say...glance or something.04:46
sdakeno idea - haven't been on irc for over a week actively - been busy with dayjob04:47
v1k0d3nwe added reviewable so we could do reviews up there. we're taking code dumps and just reworking them.04:47
v1k0d3nsame here.04:47
sdakewhat is reviewable04:55
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sdakeoff to bed - night all05:00
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v1k0d3nreviews for github05:01
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sp_hi sdake05:34
sp_portdirect: hi05:34
kamal__question regarding heka + elasticsearch+ kibana, heka logs rotate, but when elasticsearch runs out of disk space, does the operator need to do the document cleanup05:37
kamal__d0ck.RFr9nk05:38
sp_Jeffrey4l: duonghq portdirect portdirect_zzzzz        why are we not writing creating helm chart for swift api ????05:38
kamal__sorry mistyped05:39
portdirectsp_: o/05:39
sp_portdirect: hi05:39
sp_portdirect: just a query05:40
portdirectsp_: simply beacuse there was not one for the orginal kolla implementation, and our prority os to make the transition05:40
portdirectsp_: it would be great to get one, and we will do one at some stage, but getting the framework in plcae with the basic services is our current priority05:41
sp_portdirect: gotcha05:41
sp_portdirect: thanks05:41
portdirectsp_: no problem :)05:41
kamal__Hi Jeffrey4105:49
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zhubingbingaround zhangshuai05:59
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zhubingbinghi zhangshuai06:03
duonghqJeffrey4l, ping06:03
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zhubingbingping zhangshuai:   i want talk about harbor with you06:04
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openstackgerritshaofeng cheng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Replace Kolla with kolla-ansible in README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/41052806:14
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portdirectzhubingbing: harbor?06:38
zhubingbingharbor06:38
zhubingbingk06:38
zhubingbing。。06:38
zhubingbingk arbor  ;)06:39
portdirectzhubingbing: lol - thought you were asking about my old project :)06:39
zhubingbing;)06:40
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duonghqJeffrey4l, around?06:43
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openstackgerritshaofeng cheng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Replace Kolla with kolla-ansible in README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/41052806:47
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openstackgerritLi Yingjun proposed openstack/kolla: Fix git link  https://review.openstack.org/41055707:00
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openstackgerritJack Ning proposed openstack/kolla: Fix exit for statement when optional equals true  https://review.openstack.org/41056207:17
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm Keystone API  https://review.openstack.org/41056407:23
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm Keystone API  https://review.openstack.org/41056407:28
Jeffrey4lsup duonghq07:30
duonghqJeffrey4l, I added one more item to today agenda: * Zero-downtime upgrade support in Kolla - duonghq07:35
duonghqis it ok?07:35
Jeffrey4lduonghq, sure. but does openstack projects support 0 downtime upgrade right now? i know you are working on keystone upgrade. what's the status of other projects?07:35
Jeffrey4lKolla can do nothing unless the certain openstack project do not support this.07:36
duonghqJeffrey4l, I proposed 1 specs about this07:36
openstackgerritJack Ning proposed openstack/kolla: Fix don't enter if block forever when do reconfigure  https://review.openstack.org/41057307:37
Jeffrey4lduonghq, link?07:37
duonghqbring Kolla closer to zero downtime upgrade07:37
duonghqmoment07:37
Jeffrey4lcool07:37
duonghqJeffrey4l, https://review.openstack.org/40959807:38
duonghqI need more comment on this spec07:38
Jeffrey4lnice. let's talk this in the meeting ;)07:39
duonghqthank Jeffrey4l07:39
openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Integrate ceph-rgw with keystone  https://review.openstack.org/40697107:39
Jeffrey4lnp07:40
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Integrate ceph-rgw with keystone  https://review.openstack.org/40697107:42
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm create cinder user (and add common template)  https://review.openstack.org/41057907:42
zhubingbingaround  <Jeffrey4l07:43
openstackgerritshaofeng cheng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Replace Kolla with kolla-ansible in README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/41052807:48
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm create glance keystone user  https://review.openstack.org/41058107:50
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm create glance keystone user  https://review.openstack.org/41058507:54
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm create neutron keystone user  https://review.openstack.org/41058507:55
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm create nova keystone user  https://review.openstack.org/41058808:02
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Integrate ceph-rgw with keystone  https://review.openstack.org/40697108:12
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portdirectif any one is able to review this it would be great: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410579/108:14
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: DO_NOT_MERGE: TEST NEWTON BRANCH  https://review.openstack.org/38698108:19
openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Integrate ceph-rgw with keystone  https://review.openstack.org/40697108:20
openstackgerritjianyi proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Add zun container  https://review.openstack.org/40898108:20
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portdirectanyone free to review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39904208:23
openstackgerritjianyi proposed openstack/kolla: Install solum dashboard into horizon image  https://review.openstack.org/40898108:25
openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: add panko role  https://review.openstack.org/40012208:25
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Add run_gate.sh script for CI  https://review.openstack.org/41059208:31
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Add run_gate.sh script for CI  https://review.openstack.org/41059308:32
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Add run_gate.sh script for CI  https://review.openstack.org/41059408:32
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm Keystone API  https://review.openstack.org/41056408:38
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: add panko role  https://review.openstack.org/40012208:58
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: packing and uploading registry  https://review.openstack.org/40443509:01
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openstackgerritshaofeng cheng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Replace Kolla with kolla-ansible in README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/41052809:04
openstackgerritjianyi proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Add zun container  https://review.openstack.org/41061609:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Fix git link  https://review.openstack.org/41055709:06
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openstackgerritLi Yingjun proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Fix different repo issue for documentation  https://review.openstack.org/40505409:07
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Jeffrey4legonzalez90, pbourke could u review this https://review.openstack.org/410592  which unblocks the stable branch gate. ( i made some change in project-config which break it )09:16
egonzalez90Jeffrey4l: should we still backporting to Liberty? was deprecated or will be soon IIRC09:21
Jeffrey4legonzalez90, i backported. but seems liberty gate has been red for long.09:22
Jeffrey4legonzalez90, any info for the deprecated?09:22
egonzalez90let me search09:22
Jeffrey4lcool thanks.09:23
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egonzalez90Jeffrey4l: this thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107717.html09:26
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Jeffrey4lroger reading.09:27
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Jeffrey4legonzalez90, i do not think kolla meet the criteria.  deployment project should a little different on this point09:32
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm Ceph Initial Mon  https://review.openstack.org/41064109:41
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egonzalez90Jeffrey4l: agree, but  at some point of time Liberty won't work and most of current bugs cannot be backported due a big difference in the code09:48
Jeffrey4legonzalez90, at least i will fix the gate. but tbh, few people care about liberty branch .09:49
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm Ceph Initial Mon  https://review.openstack.org/41064109:50
egonzalez90if we cannot maintain the branch, does not make sense to me not tag as EOL09:50
Jeffrey4legonzalez90, ( no idea, guess ) we try our best to maintain liberty. and follow some openstack policy like other deployment project. shouldn't mark it as EOL because team may not maintain it.09:53
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm Ceph Initial Mon  https://review.openstack.org/41064109:59
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm Ceph  Mon  https://review.openstack.org/41066010:03
openstackgerritjimmygc proposed openstack/kolla: Add murano dashboard into horizon source image  https://review.openstack.org/41066910:09
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: packing and uploading registry  https://review.openstack.org/40443510:20
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openstackgerritjimmygc proposed openstack/kolla: Add murano dashboard into horizon source image  https://review.openstack.org/41066910:27
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openstackgerritjimmygc proposed openstack/kolla: Add murano dashboard into horizon source image  https://review.openstack.org/41066910:29
sdakemorning peeps10:29
Jeffrey4lmorning10:29
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm Keystone API  https://review.openstack.org/41056410:30
sdakeportdirect do you ever sleep :)10:31
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portdirectsometimes :)10:31
portdirectthough you're not much better :)10:31
sdakemy wife and kids are running me ragged10:32
sdakeso more sleep is necessary10:32
sdakemy daughter is like "dad can you put up christmas lgihts"10:33
sdakeA: NO10:33
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm Ceph Initial Mon  https://review.openstack.org/41064110:33
sdake"daddy I'll put them up"10:33
sdakeA: "No you wont you will fall off the ldder"10:33
sdake"Q I have great baalance I wont fall off"10:33
sdakeA: "YOU WILL NOT CLIMB ON A LADDER"10:35
sdakeQ: Daddy can you hang up christmas lights"10:35
sdakeit never ends10:35
sdakeits actually more like "Da-ddy"10:36
sdakemy grandfather was painting his house at 92 ish10:37
sdakeby himself10:37
sdakeon the outside10:37
sdakehe was a tough tough dude10:37
portdirectyeah - thats really good going10:38
portdirecthope I'm doing the same at that age :)10:38
sdakegod i hope i dont live that long10:38
sdake42 years of torture is enough10:39
sdakeonce my kids are grown - i'm gtg :)10:39
sdakenot enough money -> make more money10:40
sdakenot enogh time -> make more time?10:40
sdakeoxymoron :)10:40
sdakeone comes at expense of the other10:40
sdakeof course my family lives into their 100's10:41
sdakeso I likey have another 50 years of torture left ;(10:41
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sdakeof well might as well strap in for the ride :)10:46
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sdake31 hours of media in every 24 hour period ;)10:47
sdaketook me awhile to figure that one out10:47
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: packing and uploading registry  https://review.openstack.org/40443510:52
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portdirectsdake: that paper is scarily on point11:13
portdirectright gonna get a few hours kip, catch you later11:13
sdakelater portdirect11:13
sdakein fact you just woke me up with the binging :)11:14
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm Ceph OSD Bootstrap  https://review.openstack.org/41069611:19
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portdirect_awaysorry dude :/ thought it was really early your side of the pond..11:20
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openstackgerritSurya Prakash Singh proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Implement Keystone zero-downtime upgrade  https://review.openstack.org/40521511:27
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des_consoladohey I keep seeing tools/kolla-ansible referenced in documentation, but it's not in my tools/ in the kolla master tree on github :S11:38
des_consoladoI see that there is a separate repository for kolla-ansible11:38
egonzalez90des_consolado: documentation rework is being reviewed after repo split.11:42
egonzalez90all ansible related command and config is located at  kolla-ansible repository11:43
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des_consoladoah, you must be eduardo gonzalez on the ask exchange also heh, was just reading some answers by you actually, thanks :p11:45
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mliimamorning guys11:52
egonzalez90morning mliima11:52
egonzalez90des_consolado: yup, are you testing kolla or developing?11:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm create cinder user (and add common template)  https://review.openstack.org/41057911:59
rsjethaniI am following kolla quickstart guide and reached where I am supposed to deploy kolla: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla/mitaka/quickstart.html#deploying-kolla12:00
rsjethanibut i seems kolla-ansible has not been installed12:00
egonzalez90rsjethani: what branch are you installing, master or stable?12:01
rsjethanistable12:01
egonzalez90with pip install kolla?12:01
rsjethaniyes12:02
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rsjethanii executed pip install kolla/12:02
rsjethanii cloned the repo as mentioned12:02
egonzalez90follow this part http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla/quickstart.html#installing-kolla-for-evaluation-or-deployment12:02
egonzalez90for stable not need to clone repo, just pip install kolla12:03
des_consoladoegonzalez90: just playing around at the moment, R&D I guess...12:04
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des_consoladowe'll be migrating a lot of stuff to OpenStack in the coming year12:04
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des_consoladoso looking at deployment/migration paths12:04
rsjethaniegonzalez90: oh!!12:05
des_consoladowe're big on automation, or at least try to be, or try to be interested... kolla seems like it may be great for our purposes actually12:05
des_consoladothe readme on the kolla-ansible repo is the same as the one on the kolla repo I think. When was the code split? I've just started going through the kolla-ansible code from the setup files anyway. It's good because I need to brush up on python really, been avoiding it for a while heh12:06
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egonzalez90des_consolado: cool, i suggest you to use stable branch, master changes a daily.12:07
egonzalez90des_consolado: was splited at 15th of november12:08
des_consoladoah there is only master for the kolla-ansible. It's fine though, I'm happy hacking :-)12:08
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rsjethaniegonzalez90:looking at the setup entr points of stable/newton: https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/stable/mitaka/setup.cfg#L34  it doesn't seem kolla-ansible will be installed12:09
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm chart for cinder-scheduler  https://review.openstack.org/41052512:10
egonzalez90des_consolado: stable branch still in kolla repository, new branch will be at kolla-ansible12:12
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for bootstrapping cinder database  https://review.openstack.org/41050412:12
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egonzalez90rsjethani: https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/stable/newton/setup.cfg#L3812:13
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm chart for Cinder API service  https://review.openstack.org/41036212:13
rsjethaniwill it be installed as tool/kolla-ansible12:14
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egonzalez90no, kolla-ansible command12:15
rsjethaniyes it did thanks :)12:15
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for glance api and glance registry pods  https://review.openstack.org/41048112:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm create glance keystone user  https://review.openstack.org/41058112:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm create neutron keystone user  https://review.openstack.org/41058512:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm create nova keystone user  https://review.openstack.org/41058812:21
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des_consoladohmmm https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/setup.cfg#L39 this is undocumented herehttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/pbr/#files12:31
des_consoladohmmm https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/setup.cfg#L39 this is undocumented here http://docs.openstack.org/developer/pbr/#files (sorry, link was merged with previous word)12:32
des_consoladowill have to look here I guess http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/pbr12:33
kfox1111morning.12:38
srwilkershey kfox1111 :)12:40
kfox1111coudln't sleep. ended up sleep reviewing. :)12:40
srwilkersgoing to head into the office and start throwing up patchsets for keystone endpoints. saw portdirect_away started the users bits12:40
srwilkerskfox1111, i get like that too12:41
kfox1111then gave up and grabbed a laptop. :)12:41
kfox1111srwilkers: cool.12:41
kfox1111gerrit has regressed on the phones.12:41
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srwilkersyeah, its pretty bad12:41
kfox1111it use to work quite well for reviews. not so much anymore. :/12:41
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srwilkersheading in to the office -- ttys12:46
kfox1111l8r12:46
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Move openvswitch db file into docker volume  https://review.openstack.org/41073312:47
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sbezverk_Good morning12:51
kfox1111sbezverk_: good morning.12:51
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP-PoC Glance service orchestration with entrypoint  https://review.openstack.org/41073613:00
sdake_morning peeps13:02
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP-PoC Glance service orchestration with entrypoint  https://review.openstack.org/41073613:05
sbezverk_morning sdake13:05
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sdakemorning sbezverk_13:05
sdakesbezverk_ does that patchset you submitted take advantage of the microservices?13:10
sdakehelm microservices rather13:10
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sbezverk_sdake: yes but it is very very early stage13:11
sbezverk_more like proof of concept13:11
sbezverk_sdake: we still need to agree on approach13:12
sdakeare there other approaches?13:14
sbezverk_sdake: always but I am not aware of them yet ;-)13:15
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* sdake_ fires outlook!13:28
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: add panko role  https://review.openstack.org/40012213:30
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kfox1111yeah. I wish outlook would go away.13:31
kfox1111and for their webmail "product" to not be a toy. :/13:31
kfox1111is missing way way too many features.13:32
sdakewell it would b efine if it didn't make me look like i didn't know how to use  a mailing list13:32
sdakebut it doesnt break the blue bar on the left13:32
sdakeits a known issue and microsoft doesn't fix it13:33
kfox1111sdake: that too. how the hell is in 2016 (almost 2017) and it still doesn't properly quote/allow you to respond inline?13:33
sdakeit used to work13:33
sdakein fact, I had a 2016 version that did work13:33
kfox1111its like they totally don't understand normal developer workflows.13:33
sdake2013 worked13:33
sdakeits not just developers, alot of people prefer inline responses13:34
sdakeits far easier to follow an email13:34
kfox1111yeah. but I'm jsut saying. they are devs themselves. they obviously arn't writing tools for themselves. :/13:34
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sdakethey probably top post everything13:34
sdakeor have endless meetings about what hue of blue should be used for the top bar13:35
kfox1111heh. yeah13:35
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sdakewonder if there is a mac email client that actually can inline quote13:36
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sdakeairmail will not work with exchange13:38
* sdake groans13:38
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mliimasdake, are you busy?13:42
mliimaonly a little doubt13:43
mliima:)13:43
sdakemliima shoot13:43
mliimai can run "showmount -e" inside manila_data and nova_compute container, but inside cinder_volume i can't13:43
des_consoladosorry guys, in terms of architecture, if we deploy openstack the kolla way and all the services are containerised, is there a performance hit? I mean let's take the compute service for instance, I'm guessing when we are running VM's they are still running on the host nodes in the same way, it's just that the managing service/api/db'ey kinda stuff is containerised, right?13:44
mliimais there any conf in cinder that may be blocking it?13:44
des_consoladoOf course we don't have a hypervisor hypervising VM's inside of a container right? Can someone just reassure me :p13:44
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible: Delete add-panko-dockerfile release note.  https://review.openstack.org/40952113:44
sdakewell apparently macmail works with exhcnage13:45
sdakedes_consolado no performance hit at all13:45
sdakedes_consolado the best way to think of how we use docker and containers is chroot on steroids13:46
openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: add panko role  https://review.openstack.org/40012213:46
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sdakedes_consolado for brief performance metrics you can see a talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsMhEjcdb_Q&t13:48
sdakeif macmail works, then I will be using it for responding to the mailing list.. :)13:49
sdakeairmail looks good13:49
sdakei'd even pay the 2 dollars for it13:49
sdakemacmail works with exchange kfox111113:51
sdakeyou know, the mail client shipped with the mac13:51
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sdakeand it breaks the blue bar!!13:52
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sdakemorning srwilker-13:53
srwilkersback -- morning everyone o/13:53
srwilkershey sdake13:53
sdakesrwilkers rather ;-)13:53
srwilkershows it going?13:53
sbezverk_srwilkers: morning13:55
srwilkershey sbezverk_13:55
sdakesrwilkers going well13:55
v1k0d3nmorning13:59
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kfox1111sdake: I'm not on a mac though. :/14:00
kfox1111srwilkers: wb14:00
sdakekfox1111 bummer :(14:00
srwilkersgood morning v1k0d3n14:00
srwilkersthanks kfox1111 :)14:00
duonghqevening guys14:00
v1k0d3nmorning srwilkers. evening duonghq :)14:00
srwilkershey duonghq14:00
srwilkersthe gangs all here14:00
sdakeevening srwilkers morning duonghq :)14:00
sdakewe got a lot more in our clan :)14:01
duonghqmorining srwilkers, sup sdake14:01
sdakechillen duonghq14:01
duonghqsup v1k0d3n14:01
sdakegetting my day rolling14:01
srwilkersshould we adopt a clan tag, like back in the diablo 2 days?14:01
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srwilkers<kolla>srwilkers14:01
sdakenah ;)14:02
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sdakewhat we do is fine14:02
sdakei think the thread of explosion on the video meetings has come to a head though14:02
sdakeand Jeffrey4l has a solution for it14:02
v1k0d3n<work-my-tail-off>-srwilkers you mean?14:02
Jeffrey4lsorry?14:02
sdakeJeffrey4l you remember the 10/10/20/20 split14:03
v1k0d3nsrwilkers pulling all nighters to get reviews done.14:03
sdakealthough today it may not be exactly that:)14:03
Jeffrey4lyep.14:03
Jeffrey4lwe will try this in this meeting .14:03
sdakeyup i noticed - srwilkers leading in reviews for ocata cycle14:03
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srwilkersv1k0d3n, living the dream14:03
srwilkerssdake, hey, just trying to do my part14:03
sdakeno need to pull all nighters tho14:03
sdake;-)14:03
v1k0d3nsrwilkers i don't know what you're talking about :)14:03
v1k0d3nwhat is this "dream" you say? lol14:04
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sdakeyou know, Martin Luther :)14:04
srwilkersv1k0d3n, getting paid to work on upstream stuff i like, means even doing work at night and on weekends is hardly work14:04
v1k0d3nsdake: says the guy who also pulls all nighters.14:04
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v1k0d3ni think half of us have insomnia issues.14:04
v1k0d3n:)14:04
sdakev1k0d3n unfortunately ocasicoally its necessary14:04
sdakev1k0d3n i try to limit to once per quarter14:04
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kfox1111indeed.14:04
kfox1111been up since 3:40. :/14:05
sdakenot consistently14:05
Jeffrey4lsdake, could u ack https://review.openstack.org/41059214:05
sdakeya - protect ure sleep fellas - or things go wrong14:05
sdakeJeffrey4l gate failure?14:05
Jeffrey4lsdake, yep. project-config change is merged and stable branch is red now.14:06
srwilkersi have noticed my vim skills get a bit sloppy each hour past about 10pm14:06
Jeffrey4lbackport that change will save gate.14:06
sdakeJeffrey4l got it14:06
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Move openvswitch db file into docker volume  https://review.openstack.org/41073314:07
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for glance api and glance registry pods  https://review.openstack.org/41048114:11
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Move openvswitch db file into docker volume  https://review.openstack.org/41073314:12
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for glance api and glance registry pods  https://review.openstack.org/41048114:13
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm chart for cinder-scheduler  https://review.openstack.org/41052514:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for bootstrapping cinder database  https://review.openstack.org/41050414:27
mliimasdake, "showmount -e" works fine in manila_data and nova_compute container, but inside cinder_volume i can't14:29
mliimais there any conf in cinder that may be blocking it?14:29
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sdakeno idea14:32
sdakei'd check the bindmounts14:32
Pavohas the fix to murano for kolla-ansible been pushed to pip package yet?14:36
mliimaok sdake14:36
sdakepavo unlikekly as a zstream hasn't been cut in quite awhile14:37
sdakepavo i could make excuses about the repo spit, so i will - its becuase of  the repo split ;)14:38
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Pavoah14:38
Pavoso I guess the only way to get that fix is get it from the code review and copy and paste correct?14:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Add run_gate.sh script for CI  https://review.openstack.org/41059214:40
dmsimardKolla, fyi: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108884.html tl;dr there's some issues related to the release of CentOS 7.3 monday.14:41
sdakepavo what branch do you need and when14:41
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sdakedmsimard saw that14:41
dmsimardsdake, mandre, rhallisey, etc. ^14:41
PavoI have to look it up again, I am currently on 3.0.114:41
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Pavobut it would be the one that pbourke made to fix murano when its enabled in globals14:42
sdake_pavo sorry got dced14:42
sdake_coudl yiou repeat14:42
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sdkaeall i ever wanted14:47
sdkaeall i ever needed14:47
sdkaedont give up my day job :)14:48
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PavoI have to look it up again, I am currently on 3.0.114:49
Pavobut it would be the one that pbourke made to fix murano when its enabled in globals14:49
Serlexis murano actually working upstream?14:54
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des_consoladoAny remarks on Kubernetes vs. Ansible ?14:56
Pavothere was a fix that pbourke made for it Serlex, thats what I am trying to get14:58
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm chart for cinder-scheduler  https://review.openstack.org/41052515:12
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm chart for Cinder API service  https://review.openstack.org/41036215:23
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bjolohowdy15:33
srwilkershey bjolo :)15:33
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duonghqsup bjolo15:34
bjolohey :)15:34
bjolobeen off irc for while15:34
bjoloneeded to work w/o any distractions :)15:35
duonghqnice to see you again15:35
bjolonice to be back15:35
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bjoloso whats going on?15:38
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inc0hey15:39
duonghqhi inc015:39
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sdakesup bjolo15:42
sdakesup inc015:42
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inc0ehh...can we please skip kolla policy discussions for time where I'm around?15:43
inc0it's just one more week:(15:43
sdakewhich kola policy discussions?15:43
srwilkershey inc0 o/15:43
sdakekolla15:43
inc0hangouts discussion.15:44
sdakesounds fair to me inc015:45
sdakeif your not included, thats a problem ;)15:46
inc0yeah, when people starts to challenge that kolla follows 4 opens, that's somethign I'd like to be around15:46
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sdakeinc0 agreed - we need to avoid any perception or  reality of not obeying the 4 opens15:46
kfox1111here's some options on what the helm package api could look like.15:46
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kfox1111http://paste.openstack.org/show/592360/15:47
kfox1111can folks have a look and weigh in?15:47
kfox1111I've gotta head out for about 10 min.15:47
kfox1111bbiab15:47
inc0or whatever, meeting is in 15 right? so I'll be there15:47
inc0timezones are messing with me15:47
sdakemeeting in 1515:47
berendtinc0: 15 minutes is correct15:47
inc0then we can discuss it there15:47
zhubingbinghello guys15:48
zhubingbing;)15:48
srwilkershey zhubingbing o/15:48
sdakesup zhubingbing15:48
inc0hey zhubingbing congrats!15:48
zhubingbinghi15:48
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inc0welcome to core team:)15:48
zhubingbingthanks15:48
zhubingbingthank you very much15:48
zhubingbing;)15:48
sdakezhubingbing need m0ar core reviewers ftw :) zhubingbing ++15:49
zhubingbing;)15:49
srwilkers:)15:49
bjolocongrats zhubingbing15:49
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zhubingbingthanks15:50
bjolowell earned :)15:50
zhubingbingi will do best to contribute kolla ;)15:50
sdakeits more like a service rather then earning something ;)15:50
sdakeCRAS ;)15:50
sdakesomeone needs to invent that15:50
berendtbefore we start with the meeting, what do you think about http://kolla.betacloud.io/bugs-dashboard.html ? could this be help for bug squashing? the nova team uses it...15:51
sdakeoh wait, openstack did :)15:51
duonghqkfox1111, why ceilometer is treated different?15:51
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zhubingbingI would like to talk flunted15:51
sdakezhubingbing Jeffrey4l runs from agenda - add to agenda plz15:51
openstackgerritJavier Castillo Alcíbar proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Fix Murano/RabbitMQ problem with haproxy  https://review.openstack.org/41082515:52
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zhubingbing;)15:53
zhubingbingsdake ;)15:53
sdakezhubingbing add here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kolla15:55
sdakepacked agenda ;)15:55
zhubingbingunderstand15:57
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bjolo#startmeeting kolla16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 14 16:00:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bjolo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kolla'16:00
zhubingbingtoday16:00
bjolo#topic rollcall16:00
bjoloexit16:01
bjoloouch16:01
bjolodid i start the meeting?16:01
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egonzalez90yes bjolo, stop it16:02
bjolohow do i do that_16:02
kfox1111duonghq: its just an option. but on my cloud I've seen very different traffic patterns between ceilometer and the rest of the services due to different use cases. celiometer is metering/event data. the rest is rpc.16:03
egonzalez90#endmeeting16:03
tovin07__bjolo: jus end it16:03
tovin07__*just16:03
bjolo#endmeeting16:03
openstackMeeting ended Wed Dec 14 16:03:59 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:04
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-12-14-16.00.html16:04
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-12-14-16.00.txt16:04
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-12-14-16.00.log.html16:04
bjolosorry :(16:04
duonghqyou guys messed up with meeting log :(16:04
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kfox1111we dedicate a whole rabbit cluster just to ceilometer on one of my clouds.16:04
egonzalez90don't know if someting will happend to official meeting log16:04
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duonghqkfox1111, understood16:04
duonghqegonzalez90, pretty sure16:05
duonghqIt happend once16:05
sdakekfox1111 meeting time now if your available ;)16:08
sdakeportdirect_away meeting time now if your avialable16:08
inc0SamYaple, around16:08
inc0?16:08
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openstackgerritJavier Castillo Alcíbar proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Fix Murano/RabbitMQ problem with haproxy  https://review.openstack.org/41082516:09
egonzalez90duonghq: at least here still the log http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-12-14-16.00.log.txt16:09
duonghqegonzalez90, ok16:09
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mliimasdake, about cinder-volume issue, i just installed ovs in cinder-volume container and it works16:14
mliima:/16:14
sdakemliima no clue - in a team meeting in #openstack-meeting-alt-4 atm :)16:14
mliimame too16:15
mliimahehe16:15
sdakerather #openstack-meeting-416:15
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des_consoladohey I was just asking about the setup module in #ansible since I haven't used Ansible before really, I posted this https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/ansible/site.yml and one of the guys was confused about why gather_facts is set to false and then the setup module is ran, seems counter-intuitive?16:20
des_consoladohttp://docs.ansible.com/ansible/glossary.html#term-facts16:22
des_consolado"You never have to call the setup module explicitly, it just runs, but it can be disabled to save time if it is not needed or you can tell ansible to collect only a subset of the full facts via the gather_subset: option."16:23
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des_consoladooh wait it says at the top in the comments16:25
des_consoladonevermind16:25
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SamYapleinc0_: around16:51
srwilkersmeeting SamYaple :)16:52
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portdirectSamYaple hey man!17:00
SamYapleinc0_: Jeffrey4l where did we land on uid/gid? sorry for being late17:00
kfox1111k. gota drive in to work. bbiab.17:00
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SamYaplehey portdirect17:00
Jeffrey4lSamYaple, check the meeting. it is talked at the beginning.17:00
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Jeffrey4lbtw check this PS https://review.openstack.org/410733 which related to the upgrade issue.17:00
SamYapleJeffrey4l: yea i read it. everyone agreed on just static unchanging uid/gid? not user controllable?17:01
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inc0user controllable is good17:01
inc0we can use docker customizations for that17:01
Jeffrey4lyep. i can leave this for user control. we can add a parameter like --uid-mapping17:02
portdirectare we flowing over here?17:02
SamYapleso i wasnt there to add into, but i checked adn there are no static uid/gid for debian/ubuntu. and there is nothing in the work to do that17:02
SamYapleit would require a big process in debian and that hasn't started17:02
Jeffrey4luser can override this. but kolla will not response for uid migration.17:03
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SamYapleare we using rdo uid/gid?17:03
Jeffrey4lSamYaple, how debian handle the user which already exist?17:03
Jeffrey4lSamYaple, no :(17:03
tovin07__bjolo: new meeting log is overroded your mistake :v17:04
SamYaplewe are not syncing with rdo uid/gid?17:04
SamYaplekfox1111 ^17:04
Jeffrey4lSamYaple, i think so.17:04
SamYaplei dont see any reasoning why not17:04
SamYapleor any discussion on that17:04
Jeffrey4lfrom the view of kolla. i do not see any reason why.17:05
SamYapleyea but you already said that. i dont see discussion on that though17:05
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Jeffrey4l1 sec17:05
portdirectyeah wish I hadn't missed the start :( is really silly not to build on the work other people ahve done - make migrating too kolla much harder in my opionion :(17:05
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SamYapleportdirect: +117:06
SamYaplefor no reason either17:06
SamYapleits just arbitrarily deciding to go off on our own17:06
egonzalez90yes, also upgrading kolla as uid will change to kolla's one17:06
Jeffrey4lSamYaple, http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-meeting-4/latest.log.html#t2016-12-14T16:09:2117:07
SamYapleJeffrey4l: im reading that and i dont see this issue discussed17:07
Jeffrey4lJeffrey4lthe talk is about:  does the uid/gid changable or not.  how the id is picked up.  picked by kolla? or based on rdo and cloud-archive.17:07
SamYapleno one says why we should choose our own, or use rdo17:07
inc0SamYaple, we can discuss it next week17:07
inc0I guess we didnt have quorum today (you;))17:08
SamYapleinc0: im new to IRC17:08
portdirectyeah the rpm world has very well defined uid/gid mappings17:08
inc0SamYaple, -.-17:08
portdirectthey used to be in the openstack documentation17:08
SamYapleportdirect: and since ubuntu has none, id be 100% ok with defaulting to rpm world17:08
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portdirectsame here, would mean people could flip easility from saay rdo to kolla ubuntu17:09
Jeffrey4lSamYaple, anyway, fixed uid or not, picked from rdo or not can be decision at last this cycle.17:09
SamYapleportdirect: which is what im trying to have in place for kolla-salt17:09
portdirectand their existing policies would be fine17:09
SamYapleJeffrey4l: why not?17:09
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SamYapleuid/gid freezing really should be in this cycle17:10
Jeffrey4lyep. we need implement this in this cycle.17:10
portdirectJeffrey4l, could you explain why you have such a big issue with this? I'm trying to look at it from your viewpoint to see if I'm missing somthing.17:10
SamYapleJeffrey4l: oh i read your statement wrong. we agree :)17:10
Jeffrey4lportdirect, which part?17:11
duonghqsee you later, guys17:11
SamYapleduonghq: sorry i missed the meeting17:11
portdirectdefining our own uid/gid or using the ones that a large portion of the communit already are17:11
Jeffrey4lSamYaple, we were talking how the user-id mapping looks like.17:11
SamYapleduonghq: i can explain the haproxy stuff im refering to you better17:11
duonghqSamYaple, ah, ok, can you do this now?17:12
SamYapleduonghq: sure!17:12
duonghqcool17:12
Jeffrey4lportdirect, i prefer not. and you want it?17:12
Jeffrey4lright??17:12
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SamYapleduonghq: so i watched your video. the "downtime" you saw can be avoided. imagine we have 3 servers (server01, server02, server03) all running neutron17:13
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portdirectok so just personal prefence? thats a valid reason to have a viewpoint, but I'm not sure its the best one. I can work round new uid's if kolla goes with it, but just seems stange to me.17:13
SamYapleduonghq: upgrade would be, expand neutron DB, tell haproxy to wait for all connections to finish to server01, then upgrade server01, then allow connections to server01 again17:14
SamYapleduonghq: then do the same for server02 adn server03. then contract the DB17:14
inc0allright guys, I'm heading out to get some mountain air:)17:14
SamYapleduonghq: doing that means you wont lose a single API call17:14
inc0have a great day!17:14
duonghqcya inc017:14
SamYapleinc0: enjoy! say hi to the wife17:14
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Jeffrey4linc0, bye17:14
berendtjenkins job for http://kolla.betacloud.io/bugs-dashboard.html is active, hope it works17:14
Jeffrey4lberendt, great.17:14
berendtwill send a mail to openstack-dev later this day and will add a note to our readme file17:15
Jeffrey4lportdirect, hrm. do not catch your idea.17:15
SamYapleportdirect a better question for you:17:15
SamYapleportdirect: what do you do when kolla supports a new project that rdo hasnt packaged17:16
Jeffrey4lSamYaple, ++17:16
SamYapleportdirect: we choose a UID, and then rdo chooses a different one17:16
SamYapleportdirect: thats what Jeffrey4l is asking17:16
portdirectsry got sidetracked17:16
SamYaple_MY_ response to that, is work with RDO to make sure that doesnt happen17:16
SamYaplei think thats reaosnable17:16
duonghqSamYaple, but at one moment, the Neutron needs to be take down "The latter step requires all neutron-server instances to be shut down. ", can haproxy provide buffering facility for this period?17:16
SamYapleduonghq: no no, i did not say that17:17
portdirecti agree, at least just ask them. if they dont have any answer then we can pic one17:17
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SamYapleduonghq: you stop it for _one_ server at a time, then start new containers17:17
SamYapleduonghq: so there is always one running17:17
Jeffrey4lportdirect, if we pick one, it become wired and meaningless.17:17
duonghqSamYaple, hmm, I understood your approach, but neutron require all servers are taken down.17:17
Jeffrey4l weird*17:17
SamYapleduonghq: no it doesnt17:17
SamYapleduonghq: thats only for the way we do it now17:18
SamYapleduonghq: you expand the DB you can do online upgrades17:18
Jeffrey4lif we follow rdo, we need follow every service rdo has and will have.   if not, it is meaningless.17:18
SamYapleJeffrey4l: thats only _if_ RDO uses a different one. and thats a big _if_17:18
portdirect^^17:18
SamYapleJeffrey4l: even i am in the RDO channels, we have a pretty good relationship17:19
SamYaplewe have a bunch of redhat people here too17:19
duonghqSamYaple, expand DB can be done online but contract can not? as described in neutron's doc17:19
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SamYapleduonghq: expand can be done online, then you upgrade all servers to new version (one at a time) then you can contract17:19
SamYapleduonghq: thats how it work17:19
Jeffrey4land i still see any improvement to following rdo.17:19
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SamYapleJeffrey4l: we said why it would be useful, you dont agree it would be useful17:19
SamYapleJeffrey4l: thats different than not seeing any improvement17:20
Jeffrey4land in your way, we need use different uid in the same container for different distro.17:20
duonghqSamYaple, contracting phase require all neutron-servers down17:20
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SamYapleduonghq: contracting requires all _OLD_ neutron servers to be done17:20
Jeffrey4lyep. lets leave that part for the whole team. may need some vote ;)17:20
SamYapleduonghq: so from Newton -> Ocata, you would need all Newton servers down before you contract17:20
SamYapleduonghq: if they are all Ocata servers you can contract17:20
duonghqhmm, do you have link about this? I'm reading http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/upgrade.html17:21
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SamYapleduonghq: i see your point, this is not what i was told by neutron devs. I will ask. documentation may be wrong?17:22
duonghqSamYaple, I'm very happy if the doc is wrong, looking for confirmation from neutron team17:23
SamYapleduonghq: ill find out. thank you for pointing out the confusion :)17:23
duonghqcan you recheck with them?17:23
SamYaplei wil17:23
duonghqeven Neutron, Nova, Keystone support rolling upgrade, zero-downtime upgrade..., we still have other services e.g. glance, swift,...., so I think if buffering is done proper, this can handle all other services too17:25
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duonghqlast night I didn't sleep much, so I need sleeping now, bye sdake, SamYaple17:27
sdakeenjoy duonghq :)17:27
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openstackgerritsayantani proposed openstack/kolla: Update Quick Start Guide for singlenode deployment  https://review.openstack.org/40499317:37
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SamYapleany reviews for monasca? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406422/17:39
openstackgerritsayantani proposed openstack/kolla: Update Quick Start Guide for singlenode deployment  https://review.openstack.org/40499317:48
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srwilkershey sayantan_ o/17:49
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Jeffrey4lSamYaple, i will review tomorrow. ( it is 2 am here ).  btw will u implement the kolla-ansible part for monasca?17:49
SamYapleJeffrey4l: yes, ive got a patchset waiting to submit17:49
Jeffrey4lcool17:50
SamYapleJeffrey4l: just waiting for contaienrs to merge before i finish it up17:50
Jeffrey4lactually, you can push it and add depends-on in commit message.17:50
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sayantan_Hey srwilkers17:51
sayantan_Wassup?17:51
Jeffrey4lthen you ansible patch will not merge until docker part is merged. SamYaple17:51
SamYapleJeffrey4l: i know, but i want to make sure the containers won't change at all :P17:52
Jeffrey4lroger.17:52
sayantan_Hi Jeffrey4l17:52
Jeffrey4lsup sayantan_17:53
Jeffrey4lsayantan_, did u see my patch for the upgrade issue https://review.openstack.org/41073317:53
Jeffrey4li tested it locally, it works ;)17:54
sayantan_I have cleaned up the kolla-ansible related files from kolla. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406429/ It would be great if you could take a look17:54
sayantan_:)17:54
srwilkerssayantan_, definitely :)17:54
Jeffrey4lsayantan_, link is opened. will check it tomorrow. need get some sleep now ;)17:55
Jeffrey4lbtw, seem good at first glance.17:56
sayantan_Amazing :) Thanks srwilkers and Jeffrey4l17:56
srwilkerssayantan_, no problem :)17:56
sayantan_Have a good night Jeffrey4l17:56
Jeffrey4lthanks.17:56
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sayantan_So, no helm stuff going on today ? :P17:58
jascott1always helm stuff!17:58
sayantan_hahaha17:59
jascott1so much helm some may be fatigued! ;)17:59
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sayantan_Lol. Quite possible. Channel is pretty quiet today18:00
jascott1btw looked at your single node doc.. looking good18:01
openstackgerritMauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla: Fix showmount -e failure in cinder_volume  https://review.openstack.org/41088618:01
jascott1so many comments already I didnt jump in18:01
sayantan_Thanks man. I am mostly done with the developer doc. The operator doc needs more work. :)18:02
SamYapleso portdirect kfox1111 some info on RDO18:03
portdirectword18:03
SamYapleit appears that they are moving away from static uid/gid18:03
SamYaplethey may not make it auto for nova and cinder (the ones that already exist) but they arent doing static ones in the future18:03
SamYapleso that means we can match them for existing, and make up our own moving formward18:04
portdirectSamYaple, thanks so much for reaching out, did they say what drove their desision making process?18:04
SamYaple17:40:44 < amoralej> SamYaple, dmsimard, we use static UIDs for old projects as nova, cinder, but try to avoid it and use auto assigned uids18:04
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SamYapleportdirect: you remember that code where it co-opted whatever user had that uid for nova?18:04
SamYapleapparently thats a bad things18:04
SamYaplenot looked highly on :P18:05
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SamYaplethats why18:05
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dmsimardtl;dr, we can control our stuff, but not other people's stuff18:05
portdirectmakes perfect sense18:05
dmsimardso there's nothing stopping a bad-behaved or ignorant package to take our uid/gid18:05
dmsimardand in fact this has happened before in race-y installs18:05
SamYapleto be fair dmsimard, thats sorta what rdo does to "bad-behaved" :)18:06
dmsimard¯\_(ツ)_/¯18:06
dmsimarddynamic uid/gid makes some stuff, like config management (puppet, etc.) harder18:06
dmsimardin some contexts18:06
SamYapleindeed dmsimard. thats why we are doing static mappings moving forward18:07
portdirectdmsimard, thanks for chiming in18:09
openstackgerritQin Wang (qwang) proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Hel-ming horizon components  https://review.openstack.org/40897518:10
jascott1portdirect you left petset comment on heat engine ps, I thought we were going to upgrade18:11
portdirectjascott1, yeah things have changed since then :)18:11
jascott1:)18:11
portdirectjascott1, so you can ignore me18:12
jascott1just checkin'18:12
SamYapleopenstack summit submissions18:12
SamYaplepbourke: you around18:12
portdirectjascott1, will probably be a few hours before I get the k8s 1.5 suff ready for the cores to look at18:12
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portdirectjascott1, you ok waiting untill then?18:12
jascott1cool. oh yeah np18:13
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openstackgerritMauricio Lima proposed openstack/kolla: Fix manila-ui  https://review.openstack.org/41090618:24
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sdake_sup peeps18:41
openstackgerritQin Wang (qwang) proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Hel-ming horizon components  https://review.openstack.org/40897518:42
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srwilkersyo sdake_18:43
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sdake_sup18:45
portdirecthey18:46
sdake_battery almost dead18:47
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jascott1sdake_ new Mac? :)18:48
jascott1http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/12/14/apple-macbook-update-removes-battery-life-estimates/18:50
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sdake_same mac18:51
sdake_ok bbl18:51
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portdirectjascott1, and they still haven't learnt that gpu's get hot :/ I used to work as a VJ and burnt out a GPU at least once a year :(19:01
jascott1yeah wife's old 2010 MBP (which i now use for personal since she took my sweet 2013 15") gets insanely hot, their discrete video switching sucks19:02
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portdirectmy 2011 17" has been through 4 motherboards due to solder failure :/19:05
kfox1111back.19:05
kfox1111wow. that's not good.19:06
srwilkers_brbmy 2011 is still running strong19:08
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for cinder keystone endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/41092319:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm chart for Cinder API service  https://review.openstack.org/41036219:15
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kfox1111all signed up. :)19:24
kfox1111infra says 3+ node jobs are a thing now. :)19:28
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kfox1111v1k0d3n: going to be able to make it to the ptg?19:37
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openstackgerritQin Wang (qwang) proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Hel-ming horizon components  https://review.openstack.org/40897519:42
v1k0d3nkfox1111: yes, booked already.19:44
kfox1111nice. :)19:45
kfox1111will be good to meet up in person. :)19:45
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: fix typo in extend_start in collectd docker  https://review.openstack.org/41005819:45
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helmize neutron db stuff  https://review.openstack.org/41033620:04
kfox1111the list of jinja stuff is quickly shrinking. :)20:05
kfox1111almost there. :)20:05
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sayantan_sdake you there? I have a quick question20:12
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helmize neutron db stuff  https://review.openstack.org/41033620:28
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jmcevoyI am deploying 3.0.1 and got most of the way through I think... It stopped on TASK [ceilometer : Running Ceilometer bootstrap container] *********************20:40
jmcevoyfatal: [cc1-e -> None]: FAILED! => {"changed": true, "failed": true, "msg": "Container exited with non-zero return code"}20:40
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jmcevoyI saw the same issue in bootstrapping gnocchi but it worked when i redeployed.20:41
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm charts for cinder keystone endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/41092320:43
kfox11112016-12-14 20:42:16.722624 | The Job "ceph-bootstrap-initial-mon" is invalid: spec.template.spec.initContainers[0].imagePullPolicy: Required value20:44
kfox1111welp, I thinkm they may have just pushed 1.5.120:44
kfox1111confirmed. 2016-12-14 20:39:53.543406 | Pulling container gcr.io/google_containers/kube-apiserver-amd64:v1.5.120:44
kfox1111will work on fixing the gate asap.20:44
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portdirectyeah - it begins :)20:49
portdirect1.5 whoop whoop!! - sorry I've been slacking will get on it as asap20:50
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Switch to helm 2.1.0 and kubernetes 1.5+  https://review.openstack.org/41046420:51
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Helm chart for cinder-scheduler  https://review.openstack.org/41052520:51
qwangkfox1111: the job failed at cloning kolla-ansible for several times: http://logs.openstack.org/75/408975/17/check/gate-kolla-kubernetes-deploy-ubuntu-binary-ceph-nv/26af8e1/console.html20:51
kfox1111qwang: yeah. I'm trying to get more info on it. looks like the dns resolution fix for ubuntu is failing.20:51
kfox1111was rechecking to see if I could find a pattern with it.20:52
kfox1111srwilkers: gate checks will probably continue to fail until the helm update happens or we force back to k8s 1.420:52
qwangkfox1111: thanks.20:53
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srwilkerskfox1111, thanks. didnt even look here to see your comment about 1.5.120:54
openstackgerritsayantani proposed openstack/kolla: Update Quick Start Guide for singlenode deployment  https://review.openstack.org/40499320:55
portdirectkfox1111: ping20:58
kfox1111portdirect: ping21:02
portdirectpong :)21:02
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portdirectgood work things moving over to 1.5 - sorry got caught up in some stuff  - in the meantime would it make sense just to get 1.4.6 back so that we dont block up anyone?21:03
kfox1111I'm hoping 1.5.1 will be a quick switchover.21:03
kfox1111if its not done in the next 2 hours, we shoudl try and pin back?21:04
portdirectnp  - i i think the init container should be pretty easy21:04
portdirectsounds good21:04
kfox1111what was the issue with init container again?21:04
portdirectneeds pull policy set21:04
jascott1should we capture all these somewhere?21:05
kfox1111ah. on all the containers or just the init ones?21:05
portdirectjust init afaik21:05
kfox1111weird...21:05
kfox1111k.21:05
portdirect(I always spec it for the main one so havent hit it if so)21:06
kfox1111I guess they are free to break it in init containers as its not stable.21:06
kfox1111while the rest of the containers are locked down until v2.21:06
kfox1111seems silly to break one and not the other though.21:06
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portdirectjascott1: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/move-to-latest-deps21:06
jascott1woot tahnks21:06
portdirectkfox1111: putting your name to your good work :)21:07
kfox1111I didn't do much. just 'sed' :)21:07
portdirectsed is my hero21:08
portdirectwe decided on trackin latest helm resleas right?21:08
kfox1111yeah.21:08
kfox1111k. I've just been told I need to go home. snow storms going to hit soon.21:09
kfox1111portdirect: you going to be around for the next 30 min?21:09
portdirectyes21:09
kfox1111wana take ps 410464, and work on the imagePullPolicy stuff? seems like its stuck there now.21:10
kfox1111or I can get to it in about 30 min when I get home.21:10
kfox1111either way, I'll be incommunicato for about that long.21:11
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kfox1111gotta head out. be back in a bit.21:12
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kfox1111back.21:36
kfox1111portdirect: have you looked at it yet?21:37
kfox1111or should I21:37
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portdirect:(21:40
portdirectif you could that would be awesome21:40
portdirectsry21:40
kfox1111no worries.21:42
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kfox1111I see no mention of the image pull policy thing on init containers in the changelog.21:42
kfox1111I'd almost consider that a bug then.21:42
kfox1111not that it wouldn't be useful to fix/override though on our side.21:43
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Switch to helm 2.1.0 and kubernetes 1.5+  https://review.openstack.org/41046421:52
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP: DNS fix 3  https://review.openstack.org/41097422:00
kfox1111I wonder if a newer version of unbound came in and it behaves differently.22:01
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jascott1kollabot seen sdake22:12
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Switch to helm 2.1.0 and kubernetes 1.5+  https://review.openstack.org/41046422:15
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Switch to helm 2.1.0 and kubernetes 1.5+  https://review.openstack.org/41046422:24
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP: DNS fix 3  https://review.openstack.org/41097422:31
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sbezverkkfox1111: the doc for 1.5.0 says no need to use : pod.alpha.kubernetes.io/initialized any particular reason we still have them in statefulsets22:34
sbezverk?22:34
jascott1sbezverk: not even beta you mean?22:34
sbezverkyep22:35
sbezverkcheck this link: http://kubernetes.io/docs/tasks/manage-stateful-set/upgrade-pet-set-to-stateful-set/22:35
* jascott1 goes to RTFM22:35
kfox1111sbezverk: is it an issue to have still or must we remove them?22:35
* kfox1111 goes too22:35
sbezverkno issue but general recommendation22:35
jascott1"The absence of this annotation will pause PetSet operations, but will NOT pause StatefulSet operations. In most cases, you no longer need this annotation in your StatefulSet manifests. "22:36
sbezverkthat was the sentence I was refering to22:37
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Switch to helm 2.1.0 and kubernetes 1.5+  https://review.openstack.org/41046422:38
kfox1111sbezverk: ah. ok.22:38
kfox1111we probably shoudl clean it up at some point.22:38
kfox1111just trying to make it work asap.22:38
sbezverkk22:38
kfox1111probably should apply imagePullPolicy configurability to all containers too at some point.22:38
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kfox1111sbezverk: can you please file a bug or a blueprint to do so so we don't forget?22:40
kfox1111or, I guesss a awork item in the helm/k8s bp22:40
sbezverkkfox1111: I will open a bug and assign myself :-)22:42
kfox1111sbezverk: cool. thanks. :)22:43
kfox1111ok. the ubuntu fix may be holding.22:43
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jascott1kfox1111 you are on top of "Change apiVersion from apps/v1alpha1 to apps/v1beta1" ? dont want to litter your ps with that one if you are working on it :)22:45
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kfox1111for which thingy?22:45
jascott1statefulsets22:45
kfox1111oh. for apiVersion?22:46
kfox1111yeah...22:46
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kfox1111sbezverk: actualy, I'll fix most of the init stuff if there's a nother revisioin.22:49
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Switch to helm 2.1.0 and kubernetes 1.5+  https://review.openstack.org/41046422:52
kfox1111zuul's pretty backlogged. :/22:53
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: DNS fix 3  https://review.openstack.org/41097422:56
sbezverkkfox1111: did you see that kubeadm fails with btrfs used for docker?22:59
kfox1111really?22:59
kfox1111fun.23:00
sbezverkDOCKER_GRAPH_DRIVER: btrfs23:01
sbezverk[preflight] Some fatal errors occurred:23:01
sbezverk        unsupported graph driver: btrfs23:01
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kfox1111thats rpretty weird.23:02
kfox1111it shouldn't care.23:02
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sbezverkman this type of issues will pop up with 1.5 and make our life miserable :-(23:03
kfox1111mabe it is trying to intrspect stuff for statiscs gathering.23:03
srwilkerssbezverk, yep. will be a crazy ride23:07
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srwilkerssbezverk, our team seems pretty resilient though. whats life without a little bit of technical misery thrown in? ;)23:08
kfox1111sbezverk: the dns fix seems stable. it wont pass the gate without more gate fixes though. can you please workflow it?23:09
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sbezverkkfox1111: sure, have link?23:17
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Switch to helm 2.1.0 and kubernetes 1.5+  https://review.openstack.org/41046423:18
kfox1111sbezverk: https://review.openstack.org/41097423:19
kfox1111thanks.23:20
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Switch to helm 2.1.0 and kubernetes 1.5+  https://review.openstack.org/41046423:20
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kfox1111ouch....23:33
kfox1111so... yum is now updated to 1.5, but ubuntu is still 1.4. :/23:33
sbezverkyeah, 1.5.1 actually23:36
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kfox1111yeah. what a pain. :/23:36
kfox1111ok.we may need to pin back to 1.4.4 on centos until ubuntu catchs up so we can bring them both up to 1.5 together.23:36
kfox1111:/23:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: DNS fix 3  https://review.openstack.org/41097423:39
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kfox1111now comes the fun part of trying to reverse engineer what version was there before. :/23:42
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Revert gate to k8s 1.4.x  https://review.openstack.org/41100123:48
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Switch to helm 2.1.0 and kubernetes 1.5+  https://review.openstack.org/41046423:52
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kfox1111well... that really sucks.23:57
kfox1111they didn't update the repo.23:57
kfox1111they deleted the old one and made a new one. :/23:57
kfox1111so we can't go back to 1.4 on centos.23:59

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