Tuesday, 2016-11-08

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duonghqsdake,  ping00:41
PavoBuller, Buller00:58
PavoBueller, Bueller00:59
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/kolla: Skip queuing build tasks for UNMATCHED images  https://review.openstack.org/39349001:09
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duonghqPavo, what is Buller?01:16
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srwilkersFerris Bueller :)01:20
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duonghqhave not heard before, poor me01:23
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jascott1http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091042/01:24
jascott1^ relevant clip linked01:24
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duonghqah, the old day film01:28
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: Ansible-ize OpenStack Designate  https://review.openstack.org/35326102:12
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: Fix designate dockerfile  https://review.openstack.org/39470502:20
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: add panko dockerfile  https://review.openstack.org/38723202:35
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Pavoanyone around that could answer ovs mapping question?02:55
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PavoI see that physnet1 is mapped to br-ex but what is br-ex mapped to?02:56
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PavoI am guessing br-ex is mapped to kolla_external_vip_interface03:00
PavoI mean neutron_external_interface03:01
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berendtanybody using ceph cluster with writeback cache pools?03:35
berendtin one environment the cache pools are full and are not writing to the cold storage03:35
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: add panko role  https://review.openstack.org/39429803:38
zhubingbingberendt hi03:39
zhubingbingnice meet you03:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Fix designate dockerfile  https://review.openstack.org/39470504:38
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: NO_MERGE: test mitaka branch  https://review.openstack.org/39387704:42
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Move glance precheck into its own role  https://review.openstack.org/39437105:08
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Remove adding repo in magnum-base Dockerfile  https://review.openstack.org/39476305:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Deploy Telegraf on all nodes  https://review.openstack.org/38888505:41
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: NO_MERGE: test mitaka branch  https://review.openstack.org/39387706:00
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duonghqJeffrey4l, ping06:11
Jeffrey4lduonghq, pong06:14
duonghqcan you check ubuntu key F1656F24C74CD1D8 still exist?06:16
duonghqit's in base_apt_keys06:17
duonghqJeffrey4l,06:18
Jeffrey4lok06:18
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Jeffrey4lduonghq, seems no https://github.com/frappe/bench/issues/22606:21
Jeffrey4lduonghq, we should remove it06:22
duonghqJeffrey4l, ok, so I'll file a bug and fix that06:22
duonghqJeffrey4l, thank you06:22
Jeffrey4lcool. np06:22
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duonghqJeffrey4l, seem that network at my location got trouble, the github bug is about wrong keyserver06:45
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Remove adding repo in magnum-base Dockerfile  https://review.openstack.org/39478306:46
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Jeffrey4lgithub bug?  duonghq06:46
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duonghqJeffrey4l, I mean the link you give me above06:47
Jeffrey4lduonghq, i can open it.  but never mind, it just say the key is removed.06:48
duonghqJeffrey4l, the key is removed from ha.pool.sks-keyservers.net06:48
duonghqthey fix by point the keyserver to keyserver.ubuntu.com06:49
Jeffrey4li can not find the key in ubuntu'd key server.06:49
duonghqI miss 0x at begin06:50
duonghqsorry06:50
Jeffrey4l i do not think that matter.06:50
duonghqI thought so06:51
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duonghqI think I need mechanism to add key locally, lol06:55
Jeffrey4lI need? kolla need?06:56
duonghqyup, I need this, and I'm not sure if Kolla need06:57
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zhubingbinghello guys07:12
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duonghqhi zhubingbing07:15
zhubingbinghi duonghq07:20
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: add panko dockerfile  https://review.openstack.org/38723207:29
duonghqsdake_,07:30
duonghqping sdake_07:30
sdake_shoot07:30
duonghqyou just wakeup or have not slept?07:30
sdake_its 11pm07:31
sdake_i am at cloudnativecon07:31
sdake_heading to bed now07:32
sdake_what can i do for ya07:32
duonghqdid we have mechanism for apt add pubkey locally (I mean no keyserver), or we just do not need that07:32
sdake_duonghq i am not entirely sure on apt because i am not a deb dude ;)07:32
duonghqoh, I need add some key, so I should file a bug or something or I just through something to the jenkin, I'm not sure07:33
duonghqSo, are you in Toronto right now?07:33
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egonzalez90morning07:41
duonghqmorning egonzalez9007:41
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bjolomorning07:52
bjoloegonzalez90, hows the new country?07:52
egonzalez90bjolo, good beer, just sayung07:53
egonzalez90Saying07:53
bjolo:)07:53
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bjoloa mans comfort is always related to the availability of good beer07:54
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egonzalez90Absolutely :)07:55
duonghqI cannot drink much alcohol07:56
duonghqbut where are you egonzalez90?07:56
bjoloso i have a neutron issue when runing dvr (could be without dvr as well) my instances cannot reach the dhcp service. Did i dream that it was a PS a few days ago about this? something like not using the correct interface for tennant networks?07:56
egonzalez90duongh Ireland07:56
bjoloi.e. it was set to use {{ network_interface }} but should be {{ tenant_interface }}07:57
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bjoloegonzalez90, are you close by to pbourke?08:00
egonzalez90Same city08:00
duonghqyou just move to Ireland, egonzalez90? for work?08:01
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egonzalez90bjolo https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/163824208:01
openstackLaunchpad bug 1638242 in kolla "tunnel_interface user is missing " [High,In progress] - Assigned to Zhijiang Hu (hu-zhijiang)08:01
egonzalez90Yes duonghq08:02
duonghqCool08:02
duonghqbut which is your home country?, sorry I cannot recall08:02
bjoloegonzalez90, hmm maybe thats what i saw, but does not apply to my issue08:03
bjoloi run kolla-ansible stable/newton08:03
egonzalez90Not, I'm from Spain08:03
bjoloneutron_enable_dvr true08:03
bjolo2 instances on same host can ping each other08:03
bjolobut i have to configure IP manually since they dont get through to DHCP server08:04
egonzalez90Don't know if is the same issue08:04
bjologonna do some more troubleshooting08:05
egonzalez90The PS who removed tunnel_interface was merged on September08:05
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egonzalez90Is at Newton branch too08:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Remove adding repo in magnum-base Dockerfile  https://review.openstack.org/39476308:06
bjologonna be good with the repo split so we can get rid of these k8 special08:06
egonzalez90Sounds like it is your issue, dhcp goes through the tunnel08:07
egonzalez90Ping to instances in other nodes too08:07
egonzalez90But on same node connection is without tunnel08:07
bjoloyes08:08
bjolobut this should be broken for all networking in newton then right? not just for DVR08:09
egonzalez90Yes08:09
egonzalez90Most people only use allinone, and even using multinode probably don't check if connection is right08:10
bjolobut... i have tested networking before and it worked08:10
bjolomultinode08:10
egonzalez90Thats why we need to do multinode gates08:10
duonghqI still stuck with external network with multinode deployment08:11
egonzalez90Were you using different interfaces for tunnel and api?08:12
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bjoloas discussed at the summit, we really must have multinode gates doing "large" integration testing08:12
bjoloyes08:12
bjoloi have a dedicated tunnel interface08:13
bjolobut looking at the PS, i should only need to change the ml2_conf.ini.j2 file right08:13
bjolorevert that file and reconfigure08:14
egonzalez90Yes, check that fix08:14
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bjoloduonghq, whats your issue with external?08:15
duonghqbjolo, I cannot connect to instance08:16
duonghqbut now I stuck with other problems, hope that I can fix it soon08:17
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bjoloduonghq, ? please elaborate cannot connect?08:19
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: NO_MERGE: test mitaka branch  https://review.openstack.org/39387708:20
bjoloegonzalez, but im still a little perplexed here. Ok so im using api interface, but should it not still work?08:21
bjoloi mean, the error is consistent across the whole cloud08:22
bjolothey are ALL using the api interface08:22
bjoloor actually they are using the api_interface_IP08:23
duonghqbjolo, I cannot ping or ssh to instance from deploy nodes08:24
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duonghqhow can I download following key manually? https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/docker/base/Dockerfile.j2#L22409:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: remove override_install_langs option in /etc/yum.conf  https://review.openstack.org/39420009:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: fix collectd dockerfile  https://review.openstack.org/38399709:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Check api_interface instead of network_interface  https://review.openstack.org/38665409:33
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egonzalez90duonghq, line 247 in base Docker file09:44
duonghqegonzalez90, I mean download that for use offline09:45
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duonghqI cannot use apt-key for recv-key here09:46
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bjoloduonghq, cant ping or ssh. what does work? can you login on the console and ping something external? ping the gw?09:49
duonghqbjolo, not yet,09:50
duonghqI'll give you more details after I can get my kolla work again09:50
bjolowhats your setup? multinode with a seperate nic for tunnel_network?09:50
bjoloin that case you have the same issue as me09:50
duonghqbjolo, just default multinode setup with 2 NIC09:50
duonghqmaybe not your case09:51
bjoloone nic for network_interface and one for neutron_external09:54
bjolopaste you globals.yml09:54
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bjoloJeffrey4l, morning09:56
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bjoloJeffrey4l, https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/163824210:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1638242 in kolla "tunnel_interface user is missing " [High,In progress] - Assigned to Zhijiang Hu (hu-zhijiang)10:10
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: Fix horizon dashboard plugin  https://review.openstack.org/39389810:23
duonghqbjolo, I'm creating local mirror for epel repo, it is very time consuming10:25
duonghqafter I can build image, I'll retry and contact you10:25
duonghqthank you for your support bjolo10:25
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: Fix horizon dashboard plugin  https://review.openstack.org/39389810:26
bjoloegonzalez90, i dont quite get this. tunnel_interface is not used anywhere in the code?10:35
bjolohttp://opengrok.cloudonly.se/source/search?q=tunnel_interface&project=kolla-newton10:35
egonzalez90That's the bug10:39
egonzalez90In mitaka it was used but in Newton was removed by error10:39
egonzalez90Check ml2 file10:39
openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: Fix horizon dashboard plugin  https://review.openstack.org/39389810:39
egonzalez90Was nearly branching newton10:40
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pbourkemorning guys, can someone please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393435/, I think it's gone under the radar due to invalid -110:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Load all sections defined in code and conf file  https://review.openstack.org/39449410:57
bjoloegonzalez90, thats all needed for br-tun to work?10:59
egonzalez90That will bind the specified IP to the br-tun, yes11:00
egonzalez90Don't know if something else is missing11:00
bjolohmmm but api_interface IP is just as valid from a ethernet perspective11:00
bjoloisnt it?11:01
egonzalez90Yes, but in your case are using different interfaces for api and tunneling11:02
bjolotrue, but that has no meaning11:03
bjolotunnel_interface is not really used11:03
bjolobr-tun is not bound to tunnel_interface11:04
bjoloit is only the openflow rules that make use of tunnel_interface IP11:04
bjolowhich in reality is no different compared to api_network IP11:04
bjoloor network_interface IP11:05
bjoloor am i missing something?11:05
bjoloas long as ALL nodes use the same interface IP, they should be able to communicate right11:07
bjolohere is the mitaka code http://opengrok.cloudonly.se/source/search?q=%22tunnel_interface%22&defs=&refs=&path=&hist=&type=&project=kolla-mitaka11:08
egonzalez90Yes, that's true. ATM should work as an allinone11:08
egonzalez90Is tunneling between neutron and computes nodes right(apart of wrong interface)11:09
bjoloATM?11:09
egonzalez90Yes11:09
bjolowhat does ATM mean?11:09
egonzalez90At this moment11:09
bjologive me 5min. just did a redeploy where network and tunnel are the same device11:10
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bjolohmm something else is wrong here. Instance get an IP now, but network is still not working.11:31
bjolothink i could be DVR screwing things up for me11:31
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openstackgerritzhubingbing proposed openstack/kolla: Fix horizon dashboard plugin  https://review.openstack.org/39389811:39
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sp_this is new folks to arena11:47
sp_can anyone please help11:47
sp_what are the dependencies installation for kolla-k8s11:47
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sp_??11:48
alteriksHi, I've deployed openstack with kolla and I would like to play with Heat? I'm missing heat command on deployment host ;/11:48
pbourkealteriks: pip install python-heatclient11:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Remove adding repo in magnum-base Dockerfile  https://review.openstack.org/39478311:48
pbourkesp_: have you checked the docs11:48
sp_pbourke: Yes, I think So11:49
alterikspbourke, thanks  ;)11:49
sp_seems like Ansible, docker, docker python, kubernetes are the dependencies11:50
sp_m i right  ??11:50
sp_pbourke: ??11:50
pbourkehttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla-kubernetes/host-setup.html#dependencies11:50
sp_pbourke: thanks11:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: fix magnum [keystone_authtoken] configuration  https://review.openstack.org/38830511:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Configure log path for kibana  https://review.openstack.org/39417811:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: disable firewall in bootstrap-server  https://review.openstack.org/39310211:57
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openstackgerritprameswar proposed openstack/kolla: disable firewall in bootstrap-server  https://review.openstack.org/39319712:35
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sdakemorning peeps12:38
sdakesup bjolo12:38
sdakebjolo could you do me a solid12:38
sdakeand help out pavo with his networking12:38
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sdakebjolo and while your at it teach me so i can teach others?12:39
sdake:)12:39
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srwilkersgood morning everyone12:43
bjolosdake, sure do my best12:44
bjolobut neutron is a pain for me as well :)12:44
bjoloPavo, online?12:44
sdakebjolo he may not be awake just yet12:48
sdakei think 1 hr or 212:48
sdakebjolo i feel helpless when trying to help people setup neutron12:48
sdakebecuase I just don't get it12:48
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sdakeit is probably documented12:49
sdakebut I haven't had time to RTD12:49
jmccarthySpeaking of neutron .. in ml2_conf.ini.j212:50
jmccarthyShould all three of these be included in the dvr conditional in ml2_conf.ini.j2 ?12:50
jmccarthyl2_population = true12:50
jmccarthyarp_responder = true12:50
jmccarthy{% if enable_neutron_dvr | bool %}12:50
jmccarthyenable_distributed_routing = True12:50
jmccarthy{% endif %}12:50
bjolojmccarthy, im struggling with DVR as well today12:50
bjolostable/newton12:50
bjolonot working for me. We are debating if this is the root cause12:52
bjolohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/163824212:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1638242 in kolla "tunnel_interface user is missing " [High,In progress] - Assigned to Zhijiang Hu (hu-zhijiang)12:52
bjoloim using a dedicated tunnel_interface but questionable if that matters12:52
jmccarthybjolo Yea I'm trying to sort out about a patch I think we could use around the tenant_network_types12:52
bjolosince the tunnel_interface is not used really anywhere12:53
bjolohttp://opengrok.cloudonly.se/source/search?q=tunnel_interface&project=kolla-newton12:53
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jmccarthyHmm12:54
bjoloseems like br-tun is just using the IP for openflow rules12:55
bjolonot really binding a nic port to the bridge12:55
jmccarthyIn mitaka: all.yml:tunnel_interface: "{{ network_interface }}" bug local_ip = {{ api_interface_address }}13:00
jmccarthy in ml2_conf.ini.j2 ? I think this should be something like local_ip = {{ hostvars[inventory_hostname]['ansible_' + tunnel_interface]['ipv4']['address'] }}13:00
jmccarthys/bug/but13:00
bjoloyes thats the bug and it should probably be like that13:00
bjolobut the point is that even when using api_interface_ip or network_interface_ip, it should work13:01
jmccarthyMaybe :) I'm a bit lost in this area myself13:01
bjoloas long as the hosts have network connectivity. i.e. it is normal routing on the nodes13:01
egonzalezyes, that PS fix multi interface networking13:02
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egonzalezbjolo, could you explain where is failing? Not getting IP, internal network not working, external, multi host?13:04
bjolohmm i dont know what is going on here atm13:05
bjoloi have now redeployed with plain vanilla neutron13:05
bjolono dvr, qos, lbaas, etc13:06
bjolobut still does not work13:06
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bjolotunnel_interface = network_interface13:12
bjoloinstances get IP but cannot ping eachother if they are on different nodes13:12
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bjolocan ping gw though!?!13:14
bjolowtf13:14
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bjolook seems like i have a ton of iptables rules13:18
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bjoloold ones not cleaned up from previous deployments13:20
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bjolokolla-ansible destroy does not do that?13:20
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egonzalezI think there is a PS around there for neutron cleanup13:21
egonzalezLet me search13:21
bjoloi think fuel even have a boot script for that13:22
egonzalezIs merged, seem is not working properly13:25
egonzalezhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/369023/13:25
egonzalezMaybe is because if cleanup containers is exexuted, cleanup host which call ovs container which does not exists13:27
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openstackgerritWei Cao proposed openstack/kolla: Remove Fedora support from Manilla  https://review.openstack.org/39407413:30
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bjolook13:33
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bjoloegonzalez, about this https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/163824213:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1638242 in kolla "tunnel_interface user is missing " [High,In progress] - Assigned to Zhijiang Hu (hu-zhijiang)13:34
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bjolowhat is the proposed solution? revert the whole PS or just revert the tunnel_interface part?13:35
bjoloi mean, revert tunnel_interface is a 2min thing13:35
inc0whats wrong?13:36
inc0hello everyone btw13:36
bjolobr-tun is going over api_interface_ip even if one specify a different one in globals.yml13:36
bjolohi inc0 :)13:36
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egonzalezYup, that is one bug that is under review13:37
inc0submit a bug, I'll make it high and let's fix it13:37
inc0ok13:37
inc0I guess you're ahead of me13:37
egonzalezAnother is the one just found, cleanup host is ofted made after cleanup containers13:37
bjolothe bug is there, just wondering the scope of the fix13:37
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egonzalez90But, cleanup host calls a container that does not exists13:38
bjolothats a void call13:38
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openstackgerritSwapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Remove Fedora support from Manilla  https://review.openstack.org/39407413:41
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bjoloegonzalez90, ouch your right. wrong order in ansible/roles/destroy/tasks/main.yml13:42
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bjolono wonder ive been on a wild goose chase past 2 days13:43
bjolobut i learned a lot :)13:43
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inc0lol13:44
inc0I'm now doing head first deep dive to ansible code13:44
egonzalez90In my opinion the error is not in the order of the Ansible role13:44
egonzalez90Is in the tool/cleanup-host13:44
egonzalez90That task should be in cleanup-containers13:45
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bjoloyes or that13:46
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bjoloi just meant the order of execution is logically incorrect13:47
bjolo:)13:47
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egonzalez90Yes, could you fill a bug?13:49
bjolook13:50
sdakegood news everyone, step one of the repo split has happened13:50
sdakeI've created kolla-ansible in pypi :)13:50
bjolonice13:50
sdakewhich is harder then it sounds because pypi is flakey atm13:50
sdakesup inc013:50
sdakehey inc0 - re release liason13:51
sdakedo you plan to take that activity on?13:51
bjolokinda related to networking, have anyone tried ovs native fw? http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/config-ovsfwdriver.html13:51
sdakenot sure if you filter on [ptl] if not recommend doing so13:51
sdakethere is a request from doug in the ml13:52
sdakebjolo you may be the first ;)13:52
bjolo:)13:52
inc0sdake, I wanted to wait till 3.0 and replo split is done13:53
sdakeinc0 ok wfm13:53
inc0but I'm thinking I'll ask Jeffrey to be liason13:53
inc0if he wants to13:53
sdakeinc0 so I'll be responsible for ocata-1 release then?13:53
sdakeinc0 sounds good to me13:53
sdakejust want to be clear about expectations13:53
bjoloneed override for openvswitch_agent.ini13:53
sdakeso it doesn't get dropped13:53
sdakeif we don't release on milestone deadlines, we dont make the release...13:54
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sdakethis is documented somewhere in the governance repo13:54
sdakeso its cruical it is done on time13:54
sdakeinc0 working on repo split - its going to take awhile as my last status mail indicates13:54
sdakeneed to sync with alot of folks13:54
sdakeinc0 also, meetings repo needs a change13:55
sdakesince your the chair of the meeting13:55
sdakei'd change it, but  I hav ea hard time getting that wierd e you have in your name into my editor ;)13:55
sdake(don't know the code for it)13:55
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inc0lol13:57
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bjoloegonzalez90, https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/164017814:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1640178 in kolla ocata "kolla-ansible destroy cleanup OVS" [High,New]14:03
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bjoloquestion of order14:09
bjolothis bug is already assigned https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/163824214:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1638242 in kolla "tunnel_interface user is missing " [High,In progress] - Assigned to Zhijiang Hu (hu-zhijiang)14:09
bjolobut the fix is trivial and quick todo and i really want it.14:10
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egonzalez90-1 the PS and request to use the bug id14:10
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sdakeinc0 so can you handel the meetings repo?14:11
sdakeinc0 and give me a response on who is responsible for ocata-114:11
sdakeimo it should be you14:12
sdake(release part)14:12
sdakeor jeffrey14:12
sdakeI am responsibel for repo split unless someone else wants ot take it14:12
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bjoloegonzalez90, where is the PS?14:12
bjoloand how do i request the bug id?14:12
bjoloif there already is a PS, lets review and merge14:13
Pavomorning14:13
egonzalez90https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392094/14:13
egonzalez90Already have bug id, weird but launchpad dont track the status14:13
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bjolotunnel_interface_address?14:14
bjolono such thing14:14
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bjolo-114:14
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Pavobjolo question on the mapping while it looks like you are on the topic14:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Adding the steps of generateing ssh key in tools/init-runonce  https://review.openstack.org/37637214:16
bjoloPavo, shoot14:17
PavoI see that physnet1 is mapped to br-ex, I am assuming br-ex is mapped to neutron_external_interface, is that correct?14:17
bjoloyes14:17
bjoloif you only have one external, that is the effect14:18
Pavodid they remove the ovs option to map bridges to interfaces in ml2_conf.ini?14:18
bjolono14:18
Pavonot seeing bridge_interface = option in ml2_conf.ini anymore14:19
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bjoloon network node, look in /etc/kolla/neutron-*/ml2_conf.ini14:21
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bjolobridge_mappings14:21
bjoloi have 34 physnets :)14:22
Pavoah guess they just changed the name14:23
bjolowe have a lot of isolated lab areas with limited external access14:23
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Pavothey use to have bridge_mappings and also bridge_interfaces14:24
Pavobridge_interfaces isn't there anymore14:24
bjoloso we configure one physnet in each lab and make heavy use of neutron rbac to control who gets access14:24
sdakebjolo thanks :)14:25
bjolonp14:25
sdakebjolo normally we dont provide this level of support to folks, but pavo has been especially helpful for kolla dev14:25
Pavohow so?14:25
sdakebjolo so I'd not make a habit of it14:25
sdakepavo requirements dude14:25
Pavoah lol14:26
sdakePavo ure one of us :)14:26
sdakepavo we might as well get you enabled14:26
Pavoah I feel loved14:26
Pavolol14:26
sdakejust like bjolo is one of us14:26
Pavofound a typo in the docs again btw14:26
inc0sdake, as for O-1 it will be me probably14:27
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inc0I'll talk with Jeffrey whether or not he wants to take on O-2 and following14:27
sdakeinc0 sounds good, can you change this: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons14:27
Pavohttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla/advanced-configuration.html says kolla_external_vip_interface shouldn't that now be neutron_external_interface?14:27
inc0yes, I will, after split ok?14:27
inc0I want to check with Jeffrey before I put his name there14:28
sdakeinc0 i mean change to you now? - deadline for ocata 1 is 14th, and doug asked for that list to be updated on 1st14:28
sdakethe split will land after the 14th14:28
sdakein its full glory14:28
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sdakeyou have my word I'll do the job14:29
inc0ok, np14:29
openstackgerritJames McCarthy proposed openstack/kolla: Missing customization of tenant network  https://review.openstack.org/39498814:29
sdakei just want to keep on good terms with the release team14:29
inc0so ptl has to be liason too?;)14:29
sdakeinc0 ok liasons, the way they work, they hage full autonomy over the liasing14:29
inc0I thought it's both PTL and liason who can do release14:30
sdakewhich means, your essentiaklly cut out of hte picture of ptl14:30
sdakeinc0 I am not sure that is the case14:30
sdakeinc0 ask dhellman for sure14:30
inc0I thought it means to be 2 people able to do release rather than just liason14:30
inc0I'll do14:30
coolsvapinc0: either PTL or liason need to submit the release request14:31
coolsvapor need to +1 if someone else did14:31
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inc0ok, so thats what I thought14:32
inc0I believe I don't need to mark myself as liason then14:32
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inc0but I'll check with Doug14:32
inc0and relieve you sdake from this duty after repo split14:32
coolsvapinc0: sure this is one of the discussion we had during release/requirements/stable meetup in barcelona14:33
inc0good that we had our representative there eh coolsvap ?;)14:33
sdakeinc0 plase do check with doug, becauee he did ask for an updated lsit of liasons14:34
inc0kk14:34
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inc0I need to go afk for now, I'll check with him in few hrs14:34
sdakeinc0 I'd like your +1s on all the repo split stuff anyway14:34
sdakeso you understand what we are doing14:34
sdake(the git commits)14:34
coolsvapinc0: for sure14:34
inc0thanks for keeping tabs on it14:34
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inc0sdake, ofc14:34
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sdakeinc0 install filter for [ptl] if you dont have one14:34
sdakeso dont really need to be release leason14:35
sdakethat said, happy to do the job if needed14:35
inc0I don't use filters, I glance over all mails that comes on14:35
sdakei think jeffrey4l sounds fantastic however14:35
sdakeinc0 wow how do yo oeprate that way :)14:35
inc0I glance quickly;)14:35
inc0but true, I need to make it more efficient14:36
inc0sdake, I wanted to get Jeffrey on board with this so he'll get hang of it too14:36
sean-k-mooneyi think i found a bug in our logrotate configs... minsize is a thing. maxsize is not  it should be size.14:36
sean-k-mooneyhttps://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/54cc601eedd1d299b345c7e4912798f7a5c2256c/ansible/roles/common/templates/cron-logrotate-global.conf.j2#L1714:36
inc0I'll be asking tons of questions tho;)14:36
inc0and I expect him to do the same14:36
sean-k-mooneythat would explain the 37G log file i just deleted...14:36
sdakeinc0 you mean quesitons of me?14:37
inc0yeah14:37
inc0sean-k-mooney, duh...14:37
sdakeinc0 its not midnight, I haven't disappeared yet14:37
sdakeinc0 my intentions are to get involved with more development roles in kolla-ansible14:37
sdakeso thats what i'm after14:37
sean-k-mooneyinc0: ill open a bug and submit a patch14:37
sdakesorry kolla-kuberenetes14:37
inc0if we'll need to make release at midnight....we did something wrong14:37
sdakeinc0 reference to some fairy tale in the us14:37
sdakesleeping beuty I htink?14:38
inc0cool, but please dont abandon ansible everyone, that's still our stable14:38
sdakeinc0 we have a huge ansible team14:38
sdakeinc0 not so huge kubernetes team14:38
sdakei think the loss of me on the ansible side is not that big14:38
inc0yeah, but too big team in emerging project might actually slow things down, anyway, totally, join in to k8s fold14:38
sdakeas my ansible-foo sucks anyway14:38
inc0yeah I got better at it yesterday14:39
inc0during my strategy-plugin quest I ventured deep into the den of beast14:39
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inc0and beast it is14:39
inc0I hope to find any beauty there if we keep with fairy tale refs14:40
inc0no beauty yet;)14:40
sdakeinc0 btw, making it harder14:40
sdakeinc0 chris expects kolla-kubernetes compute-kit by ocata ;)14:41
sdake1.0.014:41
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inc0which Chris?14:41
sdakehoge?14:41
inc0ahh14:41
sdakeisn't hat is last name14:41
inc0yeah, that's the plan14:41
rhalliseysdake, :)14:41
rhallisey1.0 release14:41
rhalliseyleggo14:41
sdakei pretty much hedged when i talked to him14:41
inc0well, it is his last name, but there are multiple Chrises here14:41
sdakeright14:41
sdakei cna't recall his irc nick atm14:42
sdakehodgepode14:42
inc0hogepodge <-14:42
sdakeright14:42
inc0yeah thats the plan14:42
inc0compute kit, probably on helm14:42
sdakeinc0 rhallisey has a spec comign up14:42
sdakewhich explains how we are rolling14:42
rhalliseyya I'm going to convert the helm spec14:42
sdakehelm may or may not be part of 1.0.0, dont' know yet :)14:42
inc0we work on 2 PoCs now14:42
inc0it will sdake, it's arch-level change14:43
inc0ofc if helm turns out to be good change, as it seems to be turning out to be14:43
sdakeinc0 what we have sort of agreed to in kubernetes dev is to separate helm and the operator development14:43
inc0anyway, PoC is comming up, we'll see how it goes and roll from there14:43
sdakeand merge them at the end if there is time14:43
sdakeinc0 sounds like a winner :)14:44
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inc0sdake, operator is on hold for now as far as I'm concerned14:44
inc0its cool feature for later14:44
sdakeinc0 operator is how we are doing the job14:44
inc0helm is architecture14:44
inc0I'd wait for PoC of it;)14:44
sdakeinc0 if you want to write different code, feel free :)14:44
inc0also come back from kubecon14:44
sdakeinc0 yes I will be writing it14:44
sdakealong with others14:44
inc0you and Brandon will have news I bet14:45
sdakeas i said, I will send a trip report to the core reviewers14:45
inc0fair enough, let's wait till you write PoC and see from there;)14:45
inc0this operator sounds like our fencing pod, just done right14:45
sdakeinc0 well i'm not writing the operator alone14:45
inc0question being how good it is, I know issues with systems like that14:45
sdakewe need 1 per service14:45
inc0start with poc of 114:46
sdakewe need to prototype it to test it14:46
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inc0to make sure if it's even worth the effort14:46
sdakei'm going to start with a base class  and keystone14:46
sdakebase class + keystone implementation14:46
rhalliseyinc0, it is like the fencing pod, yes14:46
inc0and that's fine14:46
inc0just....question is where it draws the line of stuff it care about14:46
inc0it's hard field to walk on, so let's not make decisions now14:47
inc0start with poc14:47
inc0(btw that's basically how I roll guys;) I do love PoCs;)14:47
Pavoalmost ready to deploy kolla at work on 232 nodes14:48
inc0\o/14:48
Pavoand thats only a PoC lol14:48
inc0Pavo, let me know when you do it, I'll make sure to be around to help you with whatever14:48
Pavorgr14:49
Pavothe mapping is what is killing me right now14:49
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inc0interfaces in inventory? yeah I bet14:49
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inc0we need to refactor this part14:49
inc0maybe do more dynamic inventory14:49
Pavoyes I am using 10Gb link for all API and tunnel traffic14:50
inc0thats wise.14:50
inc0tunnels can be bitch14:50
Pavoand using second 10Gb link for trunk traffic for vlans inside and outside14:50
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Pavoand using 1 1Gb link for node management14:50
inc0storage?14:50
Pavostorage is going to using the API and trunnel links also14:51
inc0yeah, careful with that14:51
Pavojust don't have enough 10Gb links14:51
Pavoyeah14:51
inc0you can put it to vlan trunked iface tho14:51
Pavoif net get to saturated we will switch tunnel traffic to 2x 1Gb bonded links14:52
inc0so here's thing about clouds - most of net traffic is vm-to-vm and stor14:52
inc0and vm-to-vm will use tenant networks so tunnels14:52
inc0I'd put stor on trunked vlan and qos it14:52
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inc0or rather QoS rest:)14:53
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sdakepavo good luck with 232 nodes14:54
sdakepavo we havn't tested at that scale14:54
sdakepavo although ie xpect kolla to run up to about  300 nodes pretty well if the controlelr nodes are beefy enough14:54
inc0so one thing, you're using central logging?14:54
inc0make sure to put /var/lib/docker on controllers on big disks14:54
Pavocontroller nodes are 72 cpus, 512Gb ram with 30Tb storage14:54
inc0that is a beefy machine.14:55
Pavocompute nodes are 72 cpus, 1.5Tb ram and 4Tb storage14:55
Pavostorage node is 72 cpus 512Gb ram and 30Tb storage14:55
inc0fuck I need to work on my citizenship so I can join in, cool tools to play with14:55
Pavolol14:55
inc0not to mention tanks and planes too14:55
PavoI like helicopters more14:56
Pavoand automatic grenade launchers like the M-1414:56
Pavolol14:56
inc0I have unwavering affection towards A-10s14:56
PavoWarthogs are sick14:57
inc0but yeah, heli license is on my things to do before I die14:57
Pavoin 03 when we invaded Iraq I seen a few Warthogs about 300m from me destroy some tanks14:58
Pavowas just amazing14:58
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sdakepavo I've always wanted a HK rifle14:59
sdakepavo thoughts?14:59
sdakeI was thinking of getting a 55614:59
openstackgerritWei Cao proposed openstack/kolla: Add karbor container  https://review.openstack.org/39500614:59
sdakemy wife is like "you will never shoot that tihng since its a collector item"15:00
Pavoonly rifles I like are M-4, PSG1, and the trusty 30815:00
Pavobesides the Barrett ofc15:00
Pavonever shot a Hk rifle before so not sure15:01
sdakethoguhts on 556 in general?15:01
sdakewho manufacturers the PSG1?15:01
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Pavohmm didn't know that the PSG1 was HK rifle15:02
Pavointeresting15:02
Pavolearned something new today15:02
Pavoty15:02
Pavosdake15:02
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inc0hk as heckler koch?15:04
sdakeinc0 yes15:04
inc0aren't they manufacturer?15:04
sdakePSG1 is the military version15:04
Pavoamazing sniper rifle15:04
openstackgerritWei Cao proposed openstack/kolla: Add karbor container  https://review.openstack.org/39500615:04
Pavook so... kolla_internal_vip_address is mapped to network_interface correct?15:05
inc0I was playing with SVG - commonly known as Dragunov15:05
inc0that thing had a punch15:05
openstackgerritLarry Rensing proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Adding prechecks script  https://review.openstack.org/39456915:05
inc0Pavo, vip_address will create vip on this interface, yes15:06
pmisiakPavo: where do you such a 'small' PoC infra?15:06
inc0you need to specify address there, not used one15:06
Pavoyeah I can only shoot a Barrett 4 times before my shoulder gets bruised15:06
inc0I need to learn how to shoot here, it's super expensive to do in Poland15:07
pmisiakPavo: *eaten have15:07
Pavoinc0 I understand that but I only want the kolla_internal_vip_address to be on the interface that is my node management15:07
Pavopmisiak actually in my office right now15:07
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pmisiakPavo: I have production smaller than your PoC :)15:07
inc0Pavo, you can limit it by chanigng group haproxy in inventory15:08
Pavo20 of the nodes are here and the rest are in a datacenter15:08
inc0pmisiak, he's from US military, I bet they have much more big things laying around15:08
inc0like idk...transcontinental nuclear missiles15:08
pmisiakPavo: nice to have someone who can test kolla in such PoCs :)15:08
pmisiakinc0: yeah :)15:09
inc0on the bright note, we almost deployed 4 NUCs in Barcelona15:09
inc0now read it out loud15:09
PavoI need to test bifrost15:09
pmisiakguys pity timezones... I'd like to chat but I need to go15:09
Pavojust don't understand it fully yet15:09
inc0have a great evening pmisiak15:10
inc0Pavo, I learned quite a bit about it before summit15:10
pmisiakinc0: thanks, have a nice day :)15:10
sdakepbourke you about15:10
inc0it's still pretty rough on edges15:10
pbourkesdake: yup15:10
sdakepbourke ure guys willing ot pile on this spec that ryan is writing?15:10
sdakelike, asap15:11
sdakeas soon as the spec mets sniff test15:11
inc0helm one?15:11
pbourkesdake: I'll ping them now15:11
sdakeinc0 iiuc ryan is writing tow specs15:11
sdaketwo xpecs15:11
sdakedamn can't type15:11
sdakeanyway you get hte idea15:11
pbourkeinc0: I think it's pronounced "nuck" ;)15:11
inc0what is second one?15:11
sdakehelm and operators15:11
inc0ahh15:12
pbourkesdake: can you link me the spec please15:12
sdakepbourke spec is non-existent atm15:12
sdakerhallisey plans to write it15:12
inc0can we *please* wait for PoC? much easier to talk about something of substance15:12
sdakerhallisey wants a spec15:12
inc0they can go in pararell15:12
sdakeinc0 wants a poc15:12
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rhalliseypbourke, I'm going to convert the helm spec to the overall arch spec15:12
sdakeyou guys sort it out15:12
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sdakeok poc and spec in parallel works for me15:13
openstackgerritWei Cao proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Add karbor ansible role  https://review.openstack.org/39502215:13
inc0ok, fair enough, that being said, looking for volunteers to make operator poc15:13
inc0sdake being one of them right?15:13
sdakeinc0 yup - that is what i was talking to pbourke about15:13
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rhalliseyinc0, I'll be taking a shot at one also15:13
inc0cool, rhallisey and sdake can you coordinate operator workstream?15:13
* rhallisey will create the BPs in lanchpad after the spec is up15:13
inc0I'll coordinate helm15:14
sdakeinc0 sounds good15:14
sdakeinc0 quick quesiton15:14
inc0go ahead15:14
sdakedo we want a kolla-ansible launchpad?15:14
inc0good question, I'd say yes15:14
openstackgerritsean mooney proposed openstack/kolla: corrects invalid logrotate option maxsize  https://review.openstack.org/39502415:14
sdakeok, i'l lregister just in case15:14
inc0it'll be separate project for all intents and purposes15:14
sdakei think we can't use it until next cycle15:14
inc0we'll need to migrate ansible bugs to kolla-ansible lp15:15
sdakethere isnt' a migrate i think15:15
inc0but not to hurry this one15:15
sdakeanyway I'm not doing migration ofbugs :)15:15
sdakei have had enough launhcpad to last me a lifetiem15:15
inc0yeah this paperwork will be pita15:15
inc0let's keep using kolla for now15:15
sean-k-mooneymigrate = mark invalid for kolla and add kolla-ansible15:15
* sdake elects inc0 :)15:15
sean-k-mooneystill a pain to do15:16
inc0yeah, we'll deal with it later15:16
inc0one crisis at the time15:16
sdakei'll register it now15:16
inc0please do15:16
inc0thanks15:16
sdakeisnt' a crisis15:16
inc0I gtg, meetings awaits!15:16
srwilkersglhf15:16
inc0figure of speech15:16
Pavodid you see earlier that I seen a typo in the docs again?15:16
sdakeinc0 looks like i took care of that in 2015 ;)15:17
sdakeI was thinking ahead15:17
pbourkerhallisey: inc0: how do you guys want to drive this work15:18
sdakepavo that is a perfect opportunity for you to submit a bug fix :)15:18
pbourkerhallisey: gerrit / launchpad / other?15:18
rhalliseypbourke, same process15:18
Pavoonly if I new how lol15:18
sdakepbourke launchpad blueprint15:18
pbourkeok please ping me links when available15:18
rhalliseypbourke, do you want to make some bp's in kolla-k8s15:18
sdakepavo - i can teach you over webex15:18
sdakeif your permitted to use that15:18
rhalliseythat's an open question15:18
sdakerhallisey why dont you maek the blueprint since your making the spec15:18
sdakeor you make the spec and paul and i can make the bps :)15:19
pbourkerhallisey: im not experienced enough with k8s to drive anything yet15:19
rhalliseysdake, I was going to do a per service bp15:19
Pavonot at work I'm not sorry15:19
rhalliseykk wfm15:19
pbourkerhallisey: but I'll help out as a chance to get on board15:19
rhalliseypbourke, sounds good15:19
sdakepavo how about at home?15:19
sdakepavo i can coach you through a contribution so you can change things15:19
Pavoyeah after I get off sure15:19
sdakepavo i am on travel atm15:19
sdakelets shoot  for friday15:19
sdakeevening?15:19
Pavosounds good15:20
sdakepbourke right - so you ahe some delay, what about bmace and co, they aren't on irc atm :)15:20
pbourkestvnoyes is here15:20
sdakeyo stvnoyes15:21
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sdakestvnoyes we are about to change the world for the better - makign openstack run on kubernetes15:21
rhallisey:)15:21
sdakestvnoyes we are using something called an operator to do it15:21
sdakeyou in for dev? :)15:21
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sdakei htink with operator, we can get to a 1.0.0 (rough) release in ocata15:22
rhalliseyI think so too15:22
sdakewithout operator, I am at a loss as to how to proceed15:22
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stvnoyeshey steve15:30
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stvnoyessdake: it's something i'd like to work on. let me check here for what time I have for that (or if not me, someone else who can work on it.15:32
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rhalliseystvnoyes, neat :)15:33
sdakestvnoyes cool, you interested in hearing the idea?15:33
rhalliseystvnoyes, we'll start with the spec.  You can comment there15:33
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stvnoyesyes interested. also mgiles will be looking at it.15:34
sdakestvnoyes mgiles https://coreos.com/blog/introducing-operators.html15:35
sdakeplz read15:35
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stvnoyeswe just started reading up on operators yesterday15:35
sdakewe need one of those for each major service (not containers)15:35
sdakeoh, ok so already bootstrapping yourselves I see :)15:35
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zhubingbinghello guys15:35
sdakesup zhubingbing15:35
zhubingbinghi sdake15:36
sdakeso basically an operator is a container15:36
sdakeand basically what goes in the container is an application controller15:36
sdakeand basically the application controller controls the lifecycle of the application15:36
sdakeusing keystone as an example, it would create dbs, create users, etc for keystone15:37
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sdakeand finally instantiate the keystone container15:38
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stvnoyesfrom what i understand the big knock on helm is that it starts multiple copies of dependent containers. i assume that is avoided with operators?15:40
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sdakestvnoyes you got it15:40
sdakestvnoyes when you make a nova operator, it doesn't start its dependent operators15:40
mgilesdoes operators really replace helm though, are use both in conjunction?15:40
rhalliseymgiles, work in conjuction15:41
sdakestvnoyes dependency management happens via an all-powerful operator to launch all the operators15:41
sdakemgiles conjunction15:41
sdakejinx15:41
rhallisey;)15:41
sdakemgiles our intiaial approach is to integrate later15:41
mgilesright.  that makes sense.15:41
sdakestvnoyes the operator checks its own deps before doing its thing15:41
rhalliseymgiles, the operator is more robust so we can properly fill the whole deployment gap15:41
stvnoyesand entrypoints are still needed if you use operators?15:42
sdakestvnoyes the all powerful one (kolla-operator) would start the hwole schebang15:42
sdakestvnoyes no need for entrypoints15:42
stvnoyesah ok. that's good. one less new thing.15:42
sdakestvnoyes alot of hte kubernetes core reviewers are not keen on self-orchestrating containers15:42
sdakehence not keen on entrypoint15:42
rhalliseysdake, I'm scared of it too15:42
sdakerhallisey you were one of the nameless souls I mentioned above ;-)15:43
stvnoyesgot it. they must not have loved  kolla-mesos.15:43
sdakestvnoyes who must not have loved?15:43
stvnoyeskolla-mesos was doing new start scripts in the containers to do the sequencing15:44
sdakeright15:44
sdakei didn't like that15:44
sdakebut tolerated it as a POC :)15:44
sdakewe tried that once already with compose15:44
sdakeworked 19 times out of 2015:44
stvnoyesalso tough to see what's going on when things hang etc15:45
sdakestvnoyes right, it was totally undebuggable15:46
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sdakestvnoyes operators wont suffer (hopefully) from this problem15:46
sdakewe should have a good diags story with them in the future15:46
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stvnoyesrhallisey, are you planning to update the helm bp, or write another one with helm + operators?15:48
rhalliseystvnoyes, I'm going to update the helm spec to be the kube architecture spec15:48
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sdakestvnoyes quick q, looking at the etcd-operator's implementation, it is unclear to me if the thirdparty thing must be written in go15:48
sdakedo you know how that works?15:49
stvnoyesok, sounds good. in the meantime, mgiles & I will be reading up on operators and helm.15:49
sdakestvnoyes read the etcd-oeprators code base15:49
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stvnoyesok15:49
sdakestvnoyes btw, our language choice at tihs time is python15:49
sdakestvnoyes that coudl change in the future15:49
stvnoyesmine too :-)15:49
sdakestvnoyes which is why ia sk this question15:49
stvnoyesok, will look at it15:50
sdakeguys if we can grind out an answer in teh next 30 mins re this question it would be super helpful (I am at kubecon)15:51
sdakehttps://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/master/docs/design/extending-api.md15:51
sdakeThe ThirdPartyResource15:52
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sdakeis that just a json blob?15:52
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sdakestvnoyes what i'd specifically like to know is how etcd-oeprators uses thirdparty15:54
sdakeI have looked at the code, but my go is weak15:54
sdakeits alot like c so I understand the structure15:54
sdakenot necessarily teh context15:54
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mgilessdake steve is experiencing network difficulties - hopefully will be back online soon15:56
sdakemgiles cool so I can grill you instead ;)15:57
sdakemgiles not sure if we have worked together in the past ?15:57
mgilesSure, although I'm just learning the stuff too.  :-)15:57
sdakemgiles if we have, forgive me for not remembering15:57
mgilesNo, we haven't.  I recently joined the team here.15:57
sdakemgiles cool - no error in name recognition on my part ;)15:57
sdakeok so i think we have an answer to the thir dparty resources thing15:58
sdakerhallisey came up with it15:58
sdakerhallisey could you explain plz15:58
rhalliseywait what15:58
sdakewhat a third party resource does15:58
* rhallisey getting pinged all over the place15:58
sdakebusy busy :)15:58
rhalliseyok third party resource15:59
rhalliseyhttps://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/master/docs/design/extending-api.md15:59
rhalliseylooks to me like ThirdPartyResourse is a blank resource15:59
sdakeso its got  that data thing16:00
sdakei think update is used to update data16:00
rhalliseyyou use it like a pod16:00
rhalliseyhold the data in etcd to do whatever with it16:00
rhalliseyand you have access to config maps etc...16:00
sdakecool so its a proxy from kubernetes to etcd16:00
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sdakehow do you have access to config maps16:00
sdakeand what is etc?16:00
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rhalliseyI think you will16:01
rhalliseyconfigmaps will be the config files16:01
rhalliseybecause this is a custom resource in the Kubernetes API16:01
rhalliseythe resource exists as part of the cluster16:02
rhalliseythat's the key part16:02
rhalliseybut in essence it exists like you said sdake16:02
Pavohmm getting an error using kolla-ansible bootstrap-servers the error is failed, the field 'args' has an invalid value, which appears to include a variable that is undefined. The error was 'dict object' has no attribute 'The error appears to have been in '/usr/share/kolla/ansible/roles/baremetal/tasks/pre-install.yml line 23 column 3, but maybe elsewhere in the file depending on the exact syntax problem. The offending line appears to be: Generate16:04
Pavo etc/hosts16:04
Pavoany ideas?16:04
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rhalliseyping kfox111116:05
Pavohmm think I might know the issue16:06
Pavono IP on api_interface16:06
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sdakehey stvnoyes16:08
sdakewe have figured out what a third party resourc eis16:08
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stvnoyessdake: hey, i'm back. something wrong with my cable modem here at home. not sure how long i'll be on here.16:09
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stvnoyesyes, mark sent me what I missed16:09
sdakenice16:10
sdakei was getting ready to link it16:10
sdakei've go t to graab a shower soon16:10
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sdakestvnoyes so that answers all my questions, looks to me like operators are a clear win16:12
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sdakeno requiremenets on go specific code16:13
stvnoyesok16:13
sdakewhich means we dont have to bootstrap the entire openstcak ecosystem at this time with go16:13
sdakemgiles does my definition of operators make sense then?16:13
sdakestvnoyes same q to you?16:13
stvnoyesi don't have a good enough understanding of operators yet to give you an answer.16:14
mgilessdake  Yes, from what I know so far - not 100% sure about the go question though.16:14
sdakestvnoyes how good is your python16:15
sdakeiirc it wasa t expert level16:15
Pavoyeap that was the issue16:15
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pbourkei finally have an hour or two to try set up kolla k8s16:24
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pbourkewhat do people recommend, all-in-one or multinode, its not specified in the quickstart16:24
rhalliseypbourke, well there really is no aio16:24
pbourkerhallisey: ok, is there a guide you point people to for setting up k8s16:25
rhalliseypbourke, I would go with minikube guide16:25
sdakepbourke all in one i think :)16:25
rhalliseyhttps://github.com/openstack/kolla-kubernetes/blob/master/doc/source/minikube-quickstart.rst16:25
pbourkei thougth minikube was aio16:25
sdakepbourke kfox1111 recommends minikube16:25
sdakepbourke sbezverk recomends minikube16:26
rhalliseyok there is aio, but were in cluster land16:26
sdakepbourke if you want to do multinode, the  process is not well speciffied16:26
sdakethat is what operators solve ;)16:26
pbourkesdake: rhallisey just said there is no aio16:26
pbourkewhich is it :)16:26
rhalliseypbourke, I"m revising16:26
sdakepbourke rhallisey would know more16:26
sdakebut there is minikube16:26
rhalliseyit is aio16:26
stvnoyesi set mine up on one node16:27
sdakepbourke i was busy up until about 2 hrs ago myself working on kolla 3.0.z :)16:27
sdakepbourke we cut release on 18th, 18 hr days 7 days a week16:27
mgilespbourke I've had good luck with the docker multinode setup too, which is quick and easy to set up: http://kubernetes.io/docs/getting-started-guides/docker-multinode/16:27
sdakeso i'm not hte right person to ask16:27
sdakewhat i do know is kolla-kubernetes will not become a thing unless it implements some kind of reasonable orchestration16:27
rhalliseymgiles, yes I use that one too16:28
sdakewhich operators seem to be the answer to16:28
sdakepeople like kolla becausae it is easy to use16:28
sdakewe can create a kolla-kuberenetes cli16:28
sdakethat modifies third party resources16:28
sdakevia update16:28
rhalliseythe latest and greatest from kubernetes is to use kubeadm16:28
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rhalliseywhich I haven't tried yet16:28
rhalliseybefore that it was kargo16:28
rhalliseywhich I had trouble with16:28
sdakerhallisey if we got somethign that works lets use that heh? :)16:28
rhalliseyyes, recommend using http://kubernetes.io/docs/getting-started-guides/docker-multinode/16:28
rhalliseyor minikube16:29
sdakepbourke i think minikube is aio but spawns vms to run multiple nodes16:29
rhalliseyminikube guide is rock solid16:29
pbourkeok thanks guys16:29
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rhalliseypbourke, reason I said there's no aio is because we want to use aio like multinode16:31
rhalliseyeven if it is aio16:31
kfox1111morning16:31
rhalliseyin other words use shared storage16:31
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sdakekfox1111 morning dude16:36
sdakekfox1111 coudl you do me a solid16:36
kfox1111I can try16:36
sdakekfox1111 i know we sort of discussed helm16:36
sdakekfox1111 could you write down what value helm offers kolla in an etherpad16:36
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kfox1111sure.16:37
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kfox1111got one already?16:37
sdakekfox1111 so I dont sound like a moron :)16:37
sdakei do not16:37
sdakeif you could do "without operators" and "oeprators integrated"16:37
rhalliseykfox1111, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ocata-summit-kolla-k8s-road-map16:37
rhalliseymaybe in there16:37
sdakerhallisey nah16:37
sdakethis is just for me16:37
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sdakerhallisey i mean i guess that is ok16:38
rhalliseywell I need to for the spec16:38
sdakerhallisey are you putting helm in teh spec?16:38
rhalliseyyes16:38
sdakerhallisey and operators?16:38
rhalliseyit's part of the overall arch16:38
rhalliseyyes16:38
sdakerhallisey so we agreed to do them oen at a  time16:38
sdakeif you do that in the spec, please specify that in the spec ;)16:38
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rhalliseyyup16:38
sdake(i.e. not integrate them along the way but integrate later)16:38
rhalliseythey are treated as issues the complete the picture16:39
kfox1111sdake: k. adding to that etherpad16:39
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sdakekfox1111 thanks dude16:40
sdakemight as well add to end i think16:40
kfox1111yeah. doing that.16:40
sdakekfox1111 thanks - my memory is terrible16:40
sdakeok peeps - wish me well at kubecon :)16:41
kfox1111good luck. :)16:41
sdakeno not good luck16:41
sdakewish me well :)16:41
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kfox1111well wishes. :)16:44
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sdakethanks kfox :)16:47
sdakekfox1111 ^^ :)16:47
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jemcevoyI am doing a binary build of stable/newton on CentOS 7 and getting s few build errors like: Error: Package: python-magnum-3.1.1-0.20161108101836.fad39cf.el7.centos.noarch (delorean) INFO:kolla.cmd.build:magnum-base:           Requires: python-marathon16:49
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kfox1111:)16:51
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sdakejemcevoy magnum is busted in rdo16:54
sdakecan someone go to #rdo and complain about the magnum package in newton :)16:54
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sdakeso they fix it16:54
sdakei would but i gott aroll16:54
sdakei am late16:54
sdakettyl16:54
jemcevoyI do not need magnum... So I am OK16:55
jemcevoyat least not yet...16:55
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sean-k-mooneyjemcevoy: magnums scope has changed a lot since it was first created16:57
sean-k-mooneyjemcevoy: it may or may not still provided the service you would have previously used it for16:58
sdakejemcevoy then ignore build error16:58
jemcevoyHow do I set the dns search path for the VM... With Nova Network I set dhcp_domain in the nova.conf.  It looks like Neutron uses dns_domain but I cannot figure out how to get the value set...  I created /etc/kolla/config/neutron/neutron.conf  containing: [DEFAULT] \n dns_domain = scm.penguincomputing.com penguincomputing.com17:04
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sean-k-mooneyjemcevoy: i would have to check but i would guess that you want to set it in the dhcp server config17:27
sean-k-mooneyjemcevoy:  so either set it globally in /etc/kolla/config/neutron.conf or in /etc/kolla/config/neutron/neutron-dhcp-agent/neutron.conf17:30
sean-k-mooneyjemcevoy:  sorry /etc/kolla/config/neutron/neutron-dhcp-agent.conf not /etc/kolla/config/neutron/neutron-dhcp-agent/neutron.conf17:30
sean-k-mooneyjemcevoy: https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/54cc601eedd1d299b345c7e4912798f7a5c2256c/ansible/roles/neutron/tasks/config.yml#L46-L6717:30
sean-k-mooneyjemcevoy: /etc/kolla/config/neutron/neutron.conf is not used when generating the config17:31
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openstackgerritRyan Hallisey proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Spec - Kolla-Kubernetes Deployment Architecture  https://review.openstack.org/39225717:36
rhalliseyok we'll start with that17:36
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inc0I'm back17:36
rhalliseykfox1111 pbourke inc0 ^17:36
inc0you can rejoice again17:36
* rhallisey grabs lunch17:36
pbourkethanks rhallisey17:36
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pbourkeanyone get minikube working behind a proxy?17:41
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pprokophi18:11
pprokopi reviewed this spec18:11
inc0congrats Piotrek;)18:11
pprokopsome parts are confusing18:11
pprokopOperators are not a simple python script which sits in every container18:12
pprokopThese are basically k8s controllers18:12
rhalliseypprokop, thx looking18:12
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pbourkerhallisey: so i finally got minikube up. Will look at spec tomorrow18:12
pprokopNo problem.18:12
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inc0qwang, you around?18:13
qwanginc0: yes18:13
inc0qwang, pprokop Qin tthis is Piotrek, Piotrek this is Qin18:13
qwangpprokop: Hi Piotrek18:14
inc0Piotrek is from Polish Intel and he wrote dependency management entrypoint and readiness probes for containers, something like what you're doing18:14
inc0Piotrek could you please show Qin this stuff? (can be later if you want to call it a day)18:14
inc0just fyi, talk to each other:)18:14
pprokopHi qwang :D18:15
qwangawesome.18:15
pprokopIt's a bit late for me , can we set up a hangout tomorrow ?18:15
inc0Qin is part of my team in Intel Hillsboro:)18:15
qwangpprokop: sure. very pleased to know you18:16
inc0how about just before meeting?18:16
inc0weekly18:16
pprokopOkay i'll send invites on google calendar.18:16
inc0thanks18:16
qwangthank you18:16
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jemcevoysean-k-mooney:  Thanks I will try that this afternoon.   This is my first adventure with Neutron (nova network has been all that we have needed so far).19:15
sean-k-mooneyi started with havana when neutron was still quantum so neutron/quantum is all i have ever known19:16
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jemcevoysean-k-mooney: Speaking of Neutron... Is the Neutron project looking into support for IntelĀ® Omni-Path Architecture?  It would save us the cost of 10Gig NICs and Switches if we could leverage the OPA that is already part of a deployment.19:22
sean-k-mooneyomnipath is more of a hpc interface then an generic nic19:22
sean-k-mooneyit would not really map to neutron api that well19:23
sean-k-mooneythat said if you have a usecase for omnipath let me know. i have moved form intels network plathforms group to the datacenter network solutions group but i am sitll interesting in hearing about openstack usecases for intel networking tech like omnipath19:24
jemcevoyThought I ask since we do HPC cluster at penguincomputing and a lot of them are using OPA...19:25
sean-k-mooneyjemcevoy: one of the issue with omnipath today is how to virtualise it.19:25
sean-k-mooneyif you had older generation of omnipath as far as i am aware it could not be virtualised19:26
sean-k-mooneyi have not checked the current gen19:26
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jemcevoysean-k-mooney: We use OpenStack to visualize the management nodes (schedulers and master nodes) and self-service login nodes  in front of a beowulf compute cluster.19:32
jemcevoysean-k-mooney:  We are also migrating our cloud offering https://pod.penguincomputing.com/ from falsom to newton on new hardware and will be using kolla to make future upgrades possible...19:34
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sean-k-mooneywow falsom to newton is quite an upgrade19:37
openstackgerritRyan Hallisey proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Spec - Kolla-Kubernetes Deployment Architecture  https://review.openstack.org/39225719:43
jemcevoyYeah.... Keystone is hopefully that only thing that we need to migrate. to the new cluster19:43
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sean-k-mooneywell hopefully once you swap to kolla you wont have to do a custom upgrade again. unlles you want to move to kolla kuberneties at some point19:48
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jemcevoysean-k-mooney:  Thanks again for the link to the configuration code. Now I understand how the configs work.  I can use this to add the pci-passthrough settings for the nodes the have nVidia GRID GPUs..19:49
sean-k-mooneyyes you can19:49
jemcevoykolla kuberneties???19:49
jemcevoynow I am intrigued19:49
sean-k-mooneyjemcevoy: https://github.com/openstack/kolla-kubernetes its still alpha/beta quality19:50
sean-k-mooneyit should catch up to kolla-ansible in a cycle or so19:51
jemcevoywill all the custom config setting be moving to etcd?19:52
rhalliseyjemcevoy, :)19:52
sean-k-mooneyand yes you can set the pci-passthough whitelist that way as well as tweek some other settings like the default sceduler filers or the vcpu_pinset19:52
sean-k-mooneyjemcevoy: not sure how they are planning to do it for kolla-kubernetes but unlikly for kolla-ansible19:53
rhalliseyjemcevoy, how would the custom config bits move to etcd?  I'm curious19:53
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kfox1111jemcevoy: etcd backs k8s, but k8s doesn't expose it.19:53
kfox1111k8s uses configmaps as a unit of config.19:53
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rhalliseyya configmap would be the object it lives in which would be in etcd19:54
sean-k-mooneyif someone wrote an adapter for oslo_config you might oneday be able to use etcd with openstack services but not sure how you would19:54
sean-k-mooneymake mysql talk to etcd19:54
rhalliseykfox1111, posted a new spec19:54
* rhallisey needs to go19:54
rhalliseyI have to head to the polls19:54
kfox1111rhallisey: commeted already. :)19:55
rhalliseykfox1111, ty :)19:55
kfox1111rhallisey: good luck. :)19:55
kfox1111rrr, I mean, vote well. :)19:55
rhalliseylol19:55
sean-k-mooneyby well do you mean for a thrid party candidate :P19:55
rhalliseyk see ya :)19:56
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sean-k-mooneyim irish so no real say but i honestly would not like to be in to postion to chose between either candiate.19:56
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srwilkersits a tough situation for sure sean-k-mooney20:29
inc0talking about elections today?20:30
inc0I'll just say, if we'd open tech company in Canada we'd get lots of bright candidates20:31
inc0if Trump wins that is20:31
sean-k-mooneyinc0: yes though not being able to vote in said election i dont really have a say20:31
inc0neither do I20:31
inc0I pay taxes in US, but not get representation in govt20:32
sean-k-mooneyinc0: so if trump gets elected you can ligitmetly say he does not represent you :)20:32
inc0yeah...only it wont really matter right?;)20:32
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srwilkersinc0: sounds like you need to throw some of your tea in a particular harbor for that20:34
inc0I'm afraid that would only be a waste of perfectly good tea20:35
inc0we'll see tho, I wonder when exit polls are going to be shown20:36
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srwilkersive got my phone on airplane mode today so i can be (un)pleasantly surprised later today20:37
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jascott1dont worry status_quo.preserved = true20:41
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awiddersheimcan someone review?20:56
awiddersheimhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/279913/2320:56
awiddersheimwould love to get this merged finally20:56
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openstackgerritAndrew Widdersheim proposed openstack/kolla: Add RHEL as a vaild option in comment  https://review.openstack.org/39516521:14
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack/kolla: Add kolla_logs volume to kibana container  https://review.openstack.org/39516621:15
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dmsimardinc0: I'm in Canada and even then, I'm pretty scared of the outcome of those elections :(21:59
inc0I think nobody in entire world is calm today21:59
dmsimardPeople are joking a lot about the elections but the truth is it's terrifying21:59
inc0you know what's terrifying about it really? That Trump is not a cause, it's a symptom22:00
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inc0there are people I value that supports him, but great majority of his supporters are just...bad22:01
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dmsimardbut the thing is, do they support *him* or it's more that they do not support *her* ?22:02
dmsimardso it's sort of a default choice22:02
inc0well, imho biggest crap in this elections was done by DNC22:03
dmsimardThat Bernie got scammed out of the elections and nothing happened ? heh22:03
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inc0yeah, that wasn't exactly democratic what democratic comitee did22:04
inc0if Trump wins, that's because of them22:04
inc0but well, let's not talk about politics here22:06
dmsimardyeah, lots of room for mistakes :)22:06
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inc0still, Canada was apealing even before this crap;)22:07
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bmacetoo cold :(22:09
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dmsimardWe got warm summers and cold winters :p22:10
dmsimardSnowboarding and skiing is fun during the winter !22:10
inc0I can handle cold22:11
bmacei would say maybe mexico, but then they will have to implement a bunch of new taxes to help pay for the wall ;)22:12
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harlowjasdake inc0 do u know whatever happened to the fuel + k8s + containers stuff (did they decide to get involved with kolla + k8s?)22:54
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inc0harlowja, last time I checked they bought company deploying openstack on k8s with salt22:55
harlowjaah, right that one22:55
inc0they also had fuel-ccp which was fork of kolla images + their own k8s stuff22:55
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harlowjakk, my manager was bugging me asking what's the diff and why and ...22:55
harlowjaand i was like, 'ya its weird, not really sure'22:55
inc0I have no idea if they drop this thing in favor of salt or drop salt in favor of ccp22:55
inc0no official info on that front yet22:56
harlowjak22:56
inc0but they didn't really try to work with us22:56
harlowja:(22:56
inc0smoke and mirrors, that's all22:56
harlowjaright22:56
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harlowjaoh btw, can we merge  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393490/23:04
harlowjaso that my jenkins building log isn't so confusing :)23:04
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openstackgerritWei Cao proposed openstack/kolla: Add karbor container  https://review.openstack.org/39500623:42
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openstackgerritWei Cao proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Add karbor ansible role  https://review.openstack.org/39502223:49
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