Friday, 2018-09-21

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fungiianw: i'm retiring for the evening, but mriedem_away mentioned that 603900 may need to be enqueued into the gate and promoted if gmann comes 'round to approve it00:30
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ianwfungi: ok, will keep an eye00:34
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fungithanks!00:40
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prometheanfireianw: this look about right for image_cache? https://paste.pound-python.org/show/Ye6su7Dpshoc5C4nI4m7/02:14
prometheanfirehmm, probably need to make the same emerge changes everywhere...02:16
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gmannfungi: ianw ACK. i am on that.02:18
ianwprometheanfire: do you unmount it?  and do we use this dib-based caching?  ISTR we just rely on pulling from localish mirrors02:22
prometheanfireianw: umount should automatically? I based it off of what I saw in zypper02:30
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prometheanfireianw: in any case I'm running though 2 runs of dib to test (it's the 21st anyway)02:39
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/nodepool master: [wip] add instance boot metadata  https://review.openstack.org/60424802:48
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prometheanfiresyntax error? http://logs.openstack.org/46/602446/5/check/openstack-infra-base-integration-gentoo-17-0-systemd/617f8f9/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-09-21_02_26_44_55889102:55
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openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: notify needs a command  https://review.openstack.org/60424903:03
prometheanfireya ... ^03:03
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openstackgerritTristan Cacqueray proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zuul master: Add rewrite rules for HTML5 url  https://review.openstack.org/60425103:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul master: web: add /{tenant}/pipelines route  https://review.openstack.org/54152103:34
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prometheanfireugh, for some reason the stage4 minimal didn't work today...03:56
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imacdonnthis job keeps failing in the gate with a bunch of  _StringException's, and "Parser Error: {{{Short read - got 65530 bytes, wanted 466046 bytes}}}"  .... even though it passed check, multiple times ... is this a known issue? http://logs.openstack.org/00/598300/1/gate/openstack-tox-functional-py35/9243837/04:07
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openstackgerritTristan Cacqueray proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: wip: web: fix /project/{template} templates config returned value  https://review.openstack.org/60426405:34
openstackgerritTristan Cacqueray proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: wip: web: fix /project/{project} templates config returned value  https://review.openstack.org/60426405:35
openstackgerritTristan Cacqueray proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: web: add project page  https://review.openstack.org/60426605:37
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AJaegerclarkb: yes, we sent email about the coverage change https://review.openstack.org/432836 - let me add link to it if it's not there...05:50
AJaegerclarkb: link is there already - see comments, was done earlier this month05:50
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/zuul-sphinx master: Add example and type options to attributes  https://review.openstack.org/60426705:55
openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: enable caching for gentoo builds  https://review.openstack.org/60426805:57
AJaegerconfig-core, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603282 and https://review.openstack.org/602869 and https://review.openstack.org/60194605:59
openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: enable caching for gentoo builds  https://review.openstack.org/60426805:59
prometheanfirewho wanted dib caching for gentoo?05:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: notify needs a command  https://review.openstack.org/60424906:20
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/nodepool master: Add instance boot properties  https://review.openstack.org/60424806:34
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/nodepool master: [wip] start using zuul-sphinx for configuration layout  https://review.openstack.org/60427406:34
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ianwgmann: should we requeue & promote 603900 ?06:50
gmannianw: yeah, this can reduce few timeout issues though it is job timeout now.06:51
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ianwgmann/fungi: ok, enqueued to gate & promoted07:23
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openstackgerritSlawek Kaplonski proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Add patch port between neutron ext bridge and infra bridge  https://review.openstack.org/60428507:30
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quiquell|roverHello do we have any issue with buildslogs.centos ?08:00
quiquell|roverhttp://logs.openstack.org/71/604171/1/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-containers-multinode/a5319d7/logs/undercloud/home/zuul/install_packages.sh.log.txt.gz08:01
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openstackgerritSlawek Kaplonski proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Add patch port between neutron ext bridge and infra bridge  https://review.openstack.org/60428508:20
quiquell|roverianw: we are facing mirror 503 issues08:21
quiquell|roverianw: http://logs.openstack.org/23/603323/5/gate/tripleo-ci-centos-7-scenario001-multinode-oooq-container/bb0e20b/logs/undercloud/home/zuul/install_packages.sh.log.txt.gz#_2018-09-21_07_32_2808:21
ianwquiquell|rover: i'm guessing it's intermittent.  that is a proxy, so if the remote end is down, we are down08:22
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quiquell|roverianw: We have multiple reviews failing there08:23
quiquell|roverianw: who can I ask about it?08:23
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quiquell|roverianw: is there any infra root here ?09:07
quiquell|roverjaosorior: ^09:07
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ianwquiquell|rover: 603323 in gate, you want me to promote it to the top?09:14
quiquell|roverianw: yep, whatever is needed to merge it09:15
quiquell|roverjaosorior_lunch: ^09:15
quiquell|roverianw: Can we make it run only the gate jobs ?09:15
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ianwquiquell|rover: i've enqueued it in the gate, if i promote it to the top, it will go ahead of whatever is running09:18
ianwif everything in front of it is going to fail, i might as well promote it, but let me know09:18
quiquell|roverianw: thanks so much man, maybe we need som other to be after this09:18
quiquell|roverianw: Can we have this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604171/ after that ?09:19
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ianwquiquell|rover: sure, i've put that in gate too09:21
quiquell|roverianw: awesome man09:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings master: Update manila team meeting chair  https://review.openstack.org/60416909:21
ianwnp, i know it's been a bit stressful with the gate last few days09:25
ianwi'm out for now, ttyl09:25
quiquell|roverianw: Don't see 603323 at the top don't know if it's still promoted09:25
ianwoh, sorry did you want me to do that?  it will kick out all those other jobs09:25
quiquell|roverianw: can we talk with someone when you are out ?09:25
quiquell|roverianw: yep please09:25
ianwok09:25
quiquell|roverjaosorior_lunch: ^09:26
ianwfricker might be around in eu time?09:26
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quiquell|roverianw: thanks!09:26
quiquell|roverfrickler: Can you help us merging a pair of revies at tripleo ?09:26
ianwok the tripelo gate is now 603323,6 then 604171,2 ... that's right?09:27
quiquell|roverianw: yep, that's it thanks !09:28
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove ovsdbapp legacy jobs  https://review.openstack.org/60413710:54
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove ovsdbapp job  https://review.openstack.org/60411410:59
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fungiquiquell|rover: i'm around now if you have other fixes you need prioritized to address intermittent job failures11:18
quiquell|roverfungi: ack thanks11:19
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quiquell|roverfungi: looks like our review is running at gate and also at check at the same time11:23
quiquell|roverjpena|lunch, ykarel: ^11:23
quiquell|roverfungi: it's that ok ?11:23
quiquell|roverfungi: review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603323/11:24
fungiquiquell|rover: yes, perfectly fine. it will simply ignore the check results11:25
quiquell|roverykarel: ^ :-)11:27
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ykarelquiquell|rover, ack,11:28
ykarelhmm just read the logs above ^^11:28
ykarel i've enqueued it in the gate, if i promote it to the top, it will go ahead of whatever is running11:29
fungiright. do you want 603323 to merge sooner than other changes already in the tripleo gate queue?11:30
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ykarelfungi, looks like that's already in the top, no?11:30
fungii hadn't looked, thought you were asking to have it promoted11:31
fungibut yes, looks like that one's up to merge next11:33
ykarelack,11:33
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AJaegerfungi: could you +2A https://review.openstack.org/#/c/593525/1 - next python3-first change ready, please11:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: remove job settings for glance repositories  https://review.openstack.org/59352511:55
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove devstack-plugin-ceph tempest jobs  https://review.openstack.org/60131612:18
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slaweqclarkb: hi12:40
slaweqclarkb: I was trying to set bridge_name: br-ex in this dvr multinode job as we talked few days ago and I was also trying to use br-infra in neutron directly12:41
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: remove job settings for neutron repositories  https://review.openstack.org/59786512:41
slaweqbut both attempts failed12:41
slaweqclarkb: and it failed because neutron sets secure_mode: True so only packets which match any of OF rules are not dropped and neutron don't know about additional infra vxlan tunnel so it don't work properly12:42
slaweqonly solution IMO would be to add this patch ports between br-ex and br-infra12:42
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slaweqI did it manually few days ago and that worked12:43
slaweqso I send today patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604285/12:43
slaweqclarkb: please tell me if that makes sense for You :)12:43
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: DMN - debugging prepare-workspace failure  https://review.openstack.org/60435913:17
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AJaegerconfig-core, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603282 and https://review.openstack.org/602869 and https://review.openstack.org/60194613:33
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mordredAJaeger: done13:38
AJaegerthanks, mordred13:38
AJaegerdhellmann: want to WIP https://review.openstack.org/#/c/597865/ again?13:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Adjust metalsmith ACL to match ones of an official project  https://review.openstack.org/60414313:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Add puppet-placement to deploy OpenStack Placement  https://review.openstack.org/60286913:51
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ssbarneaclarkb: when you are back, please have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:quiet-rsync which should cover for both new and old jobs.14:14
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AJaegerconfig-core, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603282 and https://review.openstack.org/60194614:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Move keystone-tempest job in-repo  https://review.openstack.org/60328214:36
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odyssey4meHi folks. Do we know when the summit ticket codes will be sent out for PTG attendees?15:08
fungiodyssey4me: kendall nelson sent the ones for denver ptg attendees a couple days ago, and the ones for dublin-but-not-denver attendees are going out today i believe15:10
fungier, sorry, not kendall nelson, kendall waters15:10
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fungishould have been sent to the e-mail address you used to register for the ptg15:11
odyssey4mefungi: hmm, are they the codes that are discounts - the tickets aren't free?15:11
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odyssey4me(not that I expect them to be - just confirming that I'm looking at the right thing)15:11
fungiodyssey4me: they should give you a $0 ticket15:12
odyssey4mehmm, ok I got the ATC code which is a discount15:12
fungiright, the one i sent a couple months back? that's a us$300 ticket15:13
fungithere should be a new one from kendall waters <kendall@openstack.org> a couple days ago15:14
odyssey4meAh, I found it. Thanks for the help!15:15
fungiyou're welcome! glad you got it sorted15:16
openstackgerritSorin Sbarnea proposed openstack-infra/git-review master: Add reviewers by group alias on upload  https://review.openstack.org/19504315:17
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openstackgerritAntonio Ojea proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Convert to openSUSE Leap 15.0 platform testing  https://review.openstack.org/60438915:20
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: switch all official python projects to python3 publishing job  https://review.openstack.org/59832315:31
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: switch all official python projects to python3 publishing job  https://review.openstack.org/59832315:32
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openstackgerritAntonio Ojea proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Convert to openSUSE Leap 15.0 platform testing  https://review.openstack.org/60438915:36
openstackgerritAntonio Ojea proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Convert to openSUSE Leap 15.0 platform testing  https://review.openstack.org/60438915:46
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clarkbas a heads up I'm likely to be afk most of the day as I deal with sick kids and the resulting lack of sleep. AJaeger I've +2'd the coverage job change but unlikely to be able to watch it so haven't approved. If you are ready I would approve it.15:57
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fungithanks for the heads-up clarkb16:00
fungii should be around a fair amount if anything urgent comes up16:01
mordredsame here16:01
clarkbianw's change to nodepool to allow setting of metadata properties on instances is a prereq for the possible addition to glean of not configuring interfaces based on that16:01
clarkbhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/604248/216:02
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clarkbmordred: stack at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604225/2 cleans up debian interface config in glean a bit. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604193/ is high level plan on having glean deal with that16:03
clarkbprometheanfire is right though it needs testing16:03
fungii always get confused. is there a way to set metadata via the nova api which can then be read (from configdrive or metadata service) by the instance?16:04
clarkbfungi: yup that is the --property thing that ianw's change describes16:04
fungioh, neat. that may also solve my ipv6 quandry in ovh better16:05
clarkbyou have to set it at boot time with config drive as config drive doesn't update details later16:05
clarkbwith the ec2 metadata service you can change values then check the http server for up to date values16:05
fungiif i can scrape the address info from openstackclient, stuff corresponding values into metadata, then reboot the system16:05
prometheanfireclarkb: sup :D16:05
mordredunfortunately no16:05
mordredfungi: the config drive won't change16:05
fungieven after a reboot?16:06
mordrednope16:06
clarkbprometheanfire: just agreeing that this glean change needs more testing16:06
prometheanfireyep16:06
mordredit's a write-once iso9660 file nova makes16:06
clarkbI think the nodepool feature add is generally useful and iirc some people wanted that for other reasons16:06
fungihuh. so only populated on instance creation i guess16:06
mordredyah16:06
fungibut at least in ovh i _can_ query the metadata service16:06
mordredyah16:06
prometheanfireanyone mind kicking a new gentoo build?16:06
* prometheanfire sets nova to vfat16:06
fungimodulo the reliability issues we've seen around the metadata service of course16:06
prometheanfirehelps with live migrate iirc16:07
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: upload-logs-swift: Add trailing slash to zuul_return  https://review.openstack.org/60440316:09
openstackgerritFabien Boucher proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: WIP - Pagure driver  https://review.openstack.org/60440416:09
AJaegerclarkb: thanks, will monitor it...16:12
AJaegerconfig-core, please review  https://review.openstack.org/601946 and https://review.openstack.org/60319916:16
clarkbre testing my glean change. I should add a unittest, but also I think we should be able to construct a depends on tree between glean and ianw's nodepool change that sets the property update on our image builds and have nodepool still successfully boot instances16:18
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clarkbI don't think I'll get to that today, but we should be able to have reasonably good assurance it won't break existing users and that it works in the devstack case. Probably do still want to boot images with it installed on ovh too just to double check it fixes the problems there16:18
Shrewsprometheanfire: i can kick the gentoo build for you16:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Move coverage jobs to voting check job  https://review.openstack.org/43283616:23
prometheanfireShrews: thanks16:25
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Shrewsprometheanfire: building now16:26
prometheanfirenb01/02?16:27
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prometheanfirepackage caching makes doing gentoo builds soo much faster16:30
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bodenhi, I'm trying to understand why the neutron gate isn't pulling in neutron-lib/master + depends patch when depends-on is used (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604154/). From the zuul inventory in the job logs I would've expected neutron-lib/master + patch there, but based on a failures it's obviously not16:53
bodenany help appreciated16:53
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fungiboden: which jobs? is openstack/neutron-lib listed as a required-project for those jobs? otherwise they will likely try to install released versions from pypi16:57
bodenfungi: it's not a required project... I had thought when depends-on is used it would've used the source repo + patch... Is there an easy way to have it inspect the depends on and install the dependency/patch dynamically?16:58
funginot really. that would open up very easy ways for you to break things if you merged changes which depended on not-yet-released changes in a dependency and then released teh depending project16:59
fungiusually you want versions of your jobs which use released dependencies (to keep you from merging changes which depend on not-yet-released functionality in a dependency) and jobs which test with source from git (to make sure any conditional additions use those unreleased features when available)17:00
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Add page size of 1000 to preferences  https://review.openstack.org/60443717:01
fungitrying to do both with the same job means you end up testing only one and not the other for any given change17:01
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bodenfungi: the jobs that test source from git; would that normally be like a periodic job or something?17:02
fungithey could all be run on proposed changes. the oslo libraries have some examples of this17:02
bodenfungi: got it and appreciate your time17:02
fungibecause you might, for example, want to try running nova unit tests with a proposed change to oslo.messaging17:02
fungito make sure that it won't break nova17:03
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bodenI'm going to peek at the olso jobs to see how they work17:03
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AJaegerfungi, clarkb, mordred , corvus, and other zuul experts, could you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603554/ , please? What advise can you give for running periodic master-only jobs in-repo?17:20
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove migrated keystone swift jobs  https://review.openstack.org/60319917:27
* fungi is gonna grab lunch and then be back17:27
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Follow swift functional job rename  https://review.openstack.org/60444117:31
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove migrated keystone swift jobs  https://review.openstack.org/60319917:32
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openstackgerritAntonio Ojea proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Convert to openSUSE Leap 15.0 platform testing  https://review.openstack.org/60438918:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: upload-logs-swift: Add trailing slash to zuul_return  https://review.openstack.org/60440318:29
mordredfungi: when you get a moment, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604251/ could use your eyes18:30
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AJaegerconfig-core, please review   https://review.openstack.org/604441 , https://review.openstack.org/601946 and https://review.openstack.org/60319919:25
fungimordred: it also has an unreviewed dependency19:27
fungi(and it's far from small)19:28
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fungilooks like you weighed in on ps4 and now it's up to ps2519:29
fungi604251 is really just turning most of the redirects from last-match (sieve) to first-match order19:30
fungibut seems to be in service of the reactjs webui rewrite19:30
mordredfungi: yeah - the larger patch is pretty much good to go - but it changes a bit in the urls so we need the apache updates too19:31
mordredyah19:31
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mriedemclarkb: where does this come from in a devstack-gate run? http://logs.openstack.org/07/601407/1/check/neutron-grenade/06c9f79/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-09-10_19_55_43_46511619:36
mriedemthis change is failing to pull openstack/placement when it's in the PROJECTS list in d-g https://review.openstack.org/#/c/601407/1/devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh19:36
AJaegermriedem: is placement in required-projects?19:37
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mriedemprobably not19:38
mriedemhttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron/tree/.zuul.yaml#n26819:38
mriedembut neither is nova19:38
mordredmriedem: I believe nova is via legacy-dsvm-base19:39
AJaegerhttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs/tree/zuul.d/zuul-legacy-jobs.yaml#n1919:39
AJaegermordred: is right, mriedem ^19:39
mriedemah ok http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs/tree/zuul.d/jobs.yaml#n87719:40
mriedemand that would be branchless19:40
mriedemso i can't just throw openstack/placement in there b/c it wouldn't apply to <stein19:40
mriedemso i have to add openstack/placement as a required project to the neutron-grenade job?19:41
mriedemtl;dr trying to get extracted openstack/placement to work in grenade runs19:42
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mordredmriedem: yeah - I think adding it to neutron-grenade would be best for now19:43
mordredmaybe this cycle we can get neutron-grenade shifted off of legacy-dsvm-base19:44
mordredmriedem: actually ...19:44
mriedemi need <1 moving target19:45
mordredtell me about it19:45
mordredmriedem: yeah - I think adding it to required-projects  in neutron-grenade is the right choice19:46
mriedemok i'll start there, thanks19:46
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AJaegerfungi, is adjutant ready for storyboard? Can I approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604233 - or is a manual step needed?19:48
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fungiAJaeger: no steps needed. they apparently have one bug on lp which they're willing to just copy manually19:52
fungiso approve when you're satisfied19:52
fungii also confirmed that the ptl has read the sb migration document and is aware what they're getting into19:53
fungi(otherwise i wouldn't have +2d it)19:53
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AJaegerunderstood19:53
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AJaegerfungi, mordred , could I trouble you with https://review.openstack.org/604441 (simple job rename) - so that we can remove some job defintions with https://review.openstack.org/603199 , please?19:55
fungiAJaeger: is the syntax error on 604441 expected?19:56
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AJaegerfungi: do you mean on 603199? That has depends-on and needs recheck once 604441 is in20:00
AJaegerfungi: that's the usual "dependency on trusted project project-config" challenge...20:01
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fungioh, yes sorry you're right i was looking at 603199 after all20:03
fungiapproved 60444120:04
AJaegerthanks20:04
AJaegerdo you want to give 603199 already a +2 in the hope that it passes after recheck?20:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Start migrating Adjutant to Storyboard  https://review.openstack.org/60423320:05
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* AJaeger wishes everybody a great weekend20:06
fungithanks AJaeger!20:07
fungiapproving 603199 now too, yes20:07
AJaegerthanks, fungi20:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Follow swift functional job rename  https://review.openstack.org/60444120:18
AJaegerargh, need https://review.openstack.org/601941 for devstack first - anybody around to review, please?20:22
AJaegerfungi, missing change for devstack is the problem ^20:23
mordredAJaeger: I only have +1 on that20:24
AJaegerthanks20:25
fungiAJaeger: aha! thanks20:25
fungiyeah, i also lack core status on devstack20:25
AJaegerclarkb, could you +2A https://review.openstack.org/601941 , please?20:25
mordredAJaeger: he's out today - sick kids / no sleep20:26
AJaegerah... Then I'll wait (and ping on #openstack-qa) - and get some sleep...20:26
AJaegerthanks and bye20:26
fungithanks again AJaeger!20:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config master: There are no core developers, only core reviewers  https://review.openstack.org/58080020:54
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Fix DIB ubuntu-minimal running on bionic (18.04)  https://review.openstack.org/60447821:26
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prometheanfirewell, single node passes for gentoo nwo :D21:56
prometheanfirehttps://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/zuul-jobs/tree/roles/multi-node-bridge/vars/Suse.yaml21:59
prometheanfiredoes ovs_package refer to openvswitch the kernel side or ovs the python side?21:59
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prometheanfireand for the service, is it ovs-vswitchd.service or ovsdb-server.service ?22:09
prometheanfirebecause we install both :|22:09
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prometheanfirelooks like I need to update the package as well (kernel is too new for openvswitch modules)22:12
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prometheanfireand ovs upstream messed up packaging (or docs)...22:22
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openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: add Gentoo vars for ovs  https://review.openstack.org/60449122:36
prometheanfirewell, ^ should fix it, until a newer kernel than 4.15.x is stablized22:40
prometheanfireovs is stupid22:40
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ianwclarkb / fungi : yeah, i wasted a bit of time based off https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LibvirtCustomKernelArgs which i think we should delete.  i at first thought there was options to pass kernel command lines, which would be useful in general, as cloud-init can take base64-gzip-encoded config strings from the kernel command line22:53
ianweventually i realised that you can't do that; well you can set the commadn line for ami style images, but that's different22:54
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