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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/designate: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/16963006:04
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openstackgerritEndre Karlson proposed openstack/designate: Fix support for PostgreSQL  https://review.openstack.org/16966209:06
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:10:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/143365010:01
openstackLaunchpad bug 1433650 in Designate "Floating IP Reverse DNS API cannot query neutron using passed through credentials" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Endre Karlson (endre-karlson)10:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/143769910:01
openstackLaunchpad bug 1437699 in Designate "mDNS should Handle Bad File Descriptor" [Medium,New]10:02
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Kialltimsim: ;; XFR size: 1670 records (messages 2, bytes 88567)13:23
Kiallfixed :) Sorting tests etc out now13:23
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit has been restarted to restore event streaming. any change events missed by zuul (between 12:48 and 13:28 utc) will need to be rechecked or have new approval votes set13:28
Kiallmugsie: ^ ;)13:28
mugsie-_-13:29
Kiallexplains the lack of events13:29
mugsieyup13:29
Kialltimsim: your 40k record dump you gave me..13:29
Kiall;; Query time: 17500 msec13:29
Kiall;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#5354(127.0.0.1)13:29
Kiall;; WHEN: Wed Apr 01 13:28:57 UTC 201513:29
Kiall;; XFR size: 40958 records (messages 14, bytes 890505)13:29
Kiall17.5 seconds  .. which still sucks compare to pDNS/BIND - But too bad a start..13:30
Kiall(Also - That's on a crappy VM)13:32
KiallSame AXFR on my desktop == ;; Query time: 9340 msec .. So, still room for improvement..13:38
jbrattonit takes me 4.5 seconds for a zone that size on our production nameservers where everything is directly connected to the same switch13:43
jbrattonso I'd say that is really good13:43
elarsono/ jbratton13:44
jbrattonhey13:44
* elarson didn't know jbratton hangs out here :)13:44
jbrattonI lurk and throw out useless bits of wisdom here and there13:44
Kialljbratton: 50% slower ain't bad for pure python ;)13:45
jbrattonthat's what I'm saying, 9 seconds is great for that13:45
jbrattondon't know how much better you'll get short of IXFR one day13:45
KiallBut.. I know we're doing daft things still like iterating the 45k records more times than we need to13:45
Kiallahu: about? I'm curious what a zone approx sized 40958 records (messages 14, bytes 890505) takes to AXFR on pDNS+MySQL? (I don't have a pDNS DB that large handy, hopeing you know off hand :))13:49
jbrattonsorry, it appears that I lied.. apparently native BIND is faster than dig AXFR13:53
jbrattonTransfer completed: 30 messages, 43146 records, 1288480 bytes, 0.699 secs (1843319 bytes/sec)13:53
jbrattonprobably uses edns to speed things up13:53
Kialljbratton: I was testing with dif, curious what the query looks like.. any chance of a pcap?13:55
jbrattonyeah, I think I can do that.. let me play with dig for a minute though and see if I can reproduce that speed13:56
jbrattonhah, way better.. it appears dig is including the time to display it all on the terminal13:57
jbrattontry dig +noall +stats ...13:57
jbrattonI got back a response of 135ms.. even faster than BIND is reporting13:57
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KiallApprox the same, ;; Query time: 7331 msec13:59
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KiallReally just need to do some profiling, the hotspots will show themselves pretty quick..14:00
jbrattoninteresting.. then I guess I was just killing my own performance by logging in to a remote server and having to wait for it all to make it to my terminal14:00
KiallI wouldn't have thought dig would include render times?14:03
jbrattonme either, but it must have been14:03
jbrattonroot@ans1:~# dig +noall +stats -b 1.2.3.4 AXFR slicehost.net14:03
jbratton;; Query time: 132 msec14:04
jbratton;; SERVER: 67.192.177.49#53(67.192.177.49)14:04
jbratton;; WHEN: Wed Apr 01 14:01:24 UTC 201514:04
jbratton;; XFR size: 43146 records (messages 30, bytes 1288480)14:04
jbrattonand that's with 9.9.6-P1, if it matters14:05
jbrattonI know they have made some improvement over the years if you are using an older version of bind utils14:05
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Kiall`dig -v` tells me - 9.9.5-3ubuntu0.2-Ubuntu14:05
jbrattonclose enough14:08
KiallYep, bind does have the advantage of keeping all this in memory.. vs say pDNS which loads from the DB like we do here (I guess it heavily caches..)14:09
jbrattonyeah, which is one of the reasons we've never been able to use a db backend even though I would much rather do that than have 1.7 million zone files14:09
KiallTheres also a C lib with python bindings I've been eyeing up to replace dnspython next cycle, but I've done little more than eyeball the docs so fa14:10
Kiallr14:10
jbrattonjust rewrite it all in C, problem solved :)14:11
Kiallekarlso rewrote up a early verson of designate-mdns service in go, it was much faster as you can expect ;)14:11
mugsiei want to write it all in c++, for the craic / interest14:12
mugsieand try to relearn C++ after years of not using it14:12
jbrattonI just have a general dislike of object-oriented languages, but it's because I learned C as my first programming language14:13
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mugsieso did I - but i ended up using structs in a distinctly OO style14:14
mugsiedrove lectures in Uni mental14:14
jbrattonI've caught myself doing the reverse, trying out OO languages but then it all looks procedural14:15
jbrattonwhen they forced me to learn Java in school14:15
mugsie:) - yeah, i have seen that before alright14:17
KiallYea, so 1 loop of the records is taking 3.9 seconds.. And the second loop, which includes rendering, is taking 2.8... Both can be combined14:21
Kiall(rendering as in writing out the wireformat to a in-mem buffer)14:22
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jbrattonthe worst part is that we don't have any customer zones larger than a few thousand records, it's our internal groups that like to throw everything in to one huge zone14:23
Kialljbratton: lol - I know that EXACT feeling.14:24
Kiall45k is small compared to 1 particular zone we have :(14:24
jbrattonouch, haha14:24
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openstackgerritTim Simmons proposed openstack/designate: Fixup updates in the agent backend  https://review.openstack.org/16979315:04
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ekarlsoKiall: what zone is that ? :p15:07
KiallProbably shouldn't talk about it here ;)15:07
ekarlso:p15:08
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timsim^^^ Is something needed for rc-1. But that would be changed a bit based on the conversation yesterday Kiall, hopefully before the final release. (Getting that notify logic into the backends)15:11
Kialltimsim: not sure what ^^^ is referring to? :)15:11
timsimSorry, the code change: https://review.openstack.org/16979315:12
KiallAh.. I thought it was a question - "Is there something needed for rc1" vs "That's needed for rc1" .. Right ;)15:13
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Kialltimsim: So, not quite sure I understand what ^ is actually doing>?15:17
timsimAs it stands right now, the Agent isn't actually getting a NOTIFY at any point in the process. (I should have realized that earlier)15:17
KiallOhh, I see.. So this is a temp thing until we do the stuff we talked about yesterday?15:19
KiallWell - It might actually be the first part of it? Just for the 1 backend cls tho15:19
KiallLOL - Spotted this on our internal chat.. https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.hipchat.com/8522/1679739/CdH5YH6xnHwJd5C/upload.png15:20
timsimYep. That's right, I just wasn't sure if I could get that done before rc1. So i wanted to make sure that got up.15:20
timsimThe other change is a bit more complicated, have to change mdns method signatures and stuff.15:21
KiallYep, makes sense15:21
timsimLOL that thing is awesome!15:21
KiallI've wanted to change the PoolNameserver arg to mDNS into host:port ;)15:21
timsimYeah, I was just going down that road, realized it might be a bit more work, so I wanted to get this thing up quickly :)15:21
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elarsonjust did a rebase and my config broke. I'm fixing up the pool config and I'm wondering the target is vs. nameservers?15:47
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Kiallelarson: so, wondering about the concept or how to write the config?15:49
openstackgerritGraham Hayes proposed openstack/designate-specs: Open Liberty Specs  https://review.openstack.org/16981615:49
elarsonKiall: just wanted clarification on the config.15:49
* elarson suspects we switched from "nameservers" to "targets", but isn't really sure15:49
KiallSo - nameservers got split into 2  .. The easist way to think about it is, for support providers like DynECT or Akamai, we write to one place (Create a new zone please sent to the Akamai API), while we query for status N places (ns1.akamai.com, ns2.akamai.com, etc)15:51
openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate: Ensure mDNS can AXFR zones over 65k  https://review.openstack.org/16981815:51
elarsonah ok, that makes sense15:51
Kialltimsim / mugsie: ^15:51
Kiallconfig ends up a little like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/197803/15:53
KiallHumm.. Seem to get failures every other run on that patchset -_-16:00
elarsonKiall: thanks! that is helpful16:01
KiallOh cmon :( records coming out of the AXFR if different orders each time.. Grr16:01
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:16:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/143365016:01
openstackLaunchpad bug 1433650 in Designate "Floating IP Reverse DNS API cannot query neutron using passed through credentials" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Endre Karlson (endre-karlson)16:01
Kiallquery = query.order_by(tables.recordsets.c.id)16:01
KiallID's are UUIDs, which means.. BOO :(16:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/143769916:01
openstackLaunchpad bug 1437699 in Designate "mDNS should Handle Bad File Descriptor" [Medium,New]16:01
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kfox1111ok. trying to transfer a zone between tenants.16:03
kfox1111The request worked. now trying to accept it.16:03
kfox1111Its failing: {"code": 405, "type": "method_not_allowed", "request_id": "req-3f81a22f-114a-4e08-abbf-b9eaf9a2bfbe"}16:03
kfox1111any ideas?16:04
kfox1111using curl: curl -H "X-Auth-Token: $TOKEN" -H "Content-Type: application/json" -d @transfer2.json http://localhost:9001/v2/zones/tasks/transfer_accept -vvv16:04
timsimI think you need to -X POST16:05
mugsiekfox1111: yeah, it has to be a POST request16:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/designate: Fixup updates in the agent backend  https://review.openstack.org/16979316:07
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kfox1111-d defautls to post.16:09
kfox1111> POST /v2/zones/tasks/transfer_accept HTTP/1.116:09
mugsiekfox1111: what is in the designate-api logs ?16:10
mugsiei tested this yesterday - and it worked16:10
kfox1111not much... bunch of keystone auth stuff, and; 2015-04-01 16:12:49.217 6918 INFO eventlet.wsgi [req-9f23af95-afd6-4678-a9c8-568fdd03d105 ec31727f691e49dc71b08293dd340af9b12e48fd8285e9a2f2903e5dd79aea4a bf07b33d835e41e8b076843e291c1111 - - -] 127.0.0.1 - - [01/Apr/2015 16:12:49] "POST /v2/zones/tasks/transfer_accept HTTP/1.1" 405 292 0.39117816:11
kfox1111This is from trunk from last thursday I think.16:12
kfox1111should I update to current? I was hoping to stay at a version that I would have a hope of using the v2 cli with until it is forward ported.16:13
mugsiekfox1111: missing the 's' at the end ?16:13
mugsieshould be /v2/zones/tasks/transfer_accepts16:14
kfox1111on the end of what? transfer_accepts?16:14
kfox1111ah. let me see..16:14
mugsiethat error code is wrong though -_-16:14
kfox1111that did it. Thanks. :)16:14
kfox1111I think maybe the docs are wrong then.16:15
mugsiethey could well be16:15
timsimyeah, in the actual example http://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/rest/v2/zones.html#accept-a-transfer-request16:15
kfox1111hmm... partially wrong. http://docs-draft.openstack.org/09/167809/5/check/gate-designate-docs/4ae5f17//doc/build/html/rest/v2/zones.html#post--zones-tasks-transfer_accepts16:15
kfox1111The example is missing the s.16:15
ekarlsokfox1111: client has support for it too :p16:15
ekarlsohttps://cloudistic.net/blog/designate-zone-transfers.html16:16
kfox1111http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/designate-specs/specs/juno/zone-migration-between-tenants.html also lacks the s.16:16
kfox1111ekarlso: I heard that the patches didn't currently work against trunk a couple of days ago. Did you fix it?16:17
kfox1111ekarlso: Awesome doc. thanks. :)16:18
ekarlsokfox1111: nope, but about to fire it up :)16:19
kfox1111ok. cool. :)16:19
kfox1111arg...16:21
* kfox1111 doesn't understand why the cli doesn't support 'help' by itself...16:21
kfox1111help with no args should be the same as -h.16:22
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kfox1111Message | Provided object does not match schema16:26
kfox1111any way to further figureout what part didn't match?16:26
ekarlsokfox1111: you using the CLI ?16:26
kfox1111the older cli. 'designate record-create'16:27
mugsiekfox1111: if you want to paste the object, I can tell you :)16:27
kfox1111still haven't patched keystone to work with the v2 api.16:27
kfox1111designate record-create --name kfox.pilot.cloud.pnnl.gov. --type NS --data 172.18.4.2 f02ac945-5d7e-4799-bfae-7a98f0c6f4c816:27
mugsieNS have to be domain names16:28
mugsieNS Records*16:28
mugsieit should have said that tbh16:28
kfox1111k.16:28
* mugsie goes looking16:28
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kfox1111hmm... ok. used a dns name... got a worse error. :/16:29
kfox1111| Message | RecordSet belongs in a child zone: kfox.pilot.cloud.pnnl.gov. |16:29
ekarlso:P16:29
kfox1111but the ns record for that should be in the parent, right?16:30
kfox1111kfox is a subdomain. I created and transfered to the project named "kfox".16:30
mugsiekfox1111: in designate it doesnt have to - as they are on the same DNS server16:30
mugsieso there would be 2 conflicting records16:31
kfox1111oh. so it automatically takes care of that?16:31
mugsiethose entries are auto generated by designate16:31
mugsieyup16:31
kfox1111ok. cool. :)16:31
kfox1111even better. :)16:31
kfox1111ok. lets test this out...16:31
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Kiallmugsie / timsim - tests fixed to work every time ;)16:42
openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate: Ensure mDNS can AXFR zones over 65k  https://review.openstack.org/16981816:42
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ahu15:49 <Kiall> ahu: about? I'm curious what a zone approx sized 40958 records (messages 14, bytes 890505) takes to AXFR  on pDNS+MySQL? (I don't have a pDNS DB that large handy, hopeing you know off hand :))17:42
ahudo you mean in seconds?17:42
mugsieseconds / milliseconds17:42
ahuthe actual time spent is dominated by the commit at the end17:43
ahufor most backends17:43
ahuwhich could be whole seconds17:43
ahubut even if it is a tenth of a second, the commit will dominate17:43
Kiallahu: Ah, I meant serving an AXFR as a master rather than slaving off another server17:43
Kialle.g. read-only on the DB17:43
ahuah! - well, that should zoom, but I don't have any exact numbers17:44
KiallFair enough :) I'll have to go test it out to find some numbers for comparison17:45
ahuthe main thing with axfr performance in our experience is if you stuff multiple records in one message17:49
ahuotherwise it is a lot of work17:49
KiallYep, we're currently stuffing packets until they hit ~65k bytes17:51
ahubtw, such huge packets should not be compressed17:53
ahuperhaps that is slowing you down17:54
Kiallahu: possibly, I'll look into that18:00
openstackgerritGraham Hayes proposed openstack/designate-specs: Add graded backends  https://review.openstack.org/16985918:00
ahucompression is an O(N^2) affair18:00
Kialland - sadly - the lib were using doesn't give us a flag to disable name compression18:01
ahuon a 64kbyte packet it kills you18:01
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KiallSeems to make no difference with this lib (I hacked it out ;)) quicky:18:10
Kiall;; Query time: 7425 msec18:10
Kiall;; XFR size: 40958 records (messages 14, bytes 890505)18:10
Kiall;; Query time: 7869 msec18:10
Kiall;; XFR size: 40958 records (messages 23, bytes 1505181)18:10
KiallEither way, I can see a easy win to get back ~50% of that time, which leaves us "good enough" for Kilo and can dig into C rather than python libs in the next cycle18:11
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openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate: Update periodic sync defaults  https://review.openstack.org/16987218:31
Kialltimsim / mugsie: changes discussed @ meet ^18:32
Kialltimsim: also - vinod away or something?18:32
timsimYep. He'll be back tomorrow18:33
timsimLol. Clippy is dancing around my review page18:34
openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate: Correct min-ttl default config value  https://review.openstack.org/16987518:36
Kialltimsim: Yep - Seems the openstack-infra folks have a sense of humor18:36
timsimShould we port the "touch" functionality before release?18:36
Kiallehh, i seem to remember thinking it's not really necessary anymore with Pool Manager? But I can't remember what made me think that.18:37
timsimPool Manager should figure it out eventually, but I'd think there are times where you'd like to be able to get it before the next sync in 30 minutes.18:38
KiallTrue - Sometimes you just want to give a zone a "kick"18:38
timsimYep18:38
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kfox1111yay. teanant controlled subdomain. :)19:09
kfox1111working from any system at the lab. :)19:10
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openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate: DevStack: Akamai/Dyn Support for Jenkins Credential Binding  https://review.openstack.org/16989119:18
ahu7 seconds for 40k records is excessive19:19
ahuby any measure19:20
ahu'sudo perf top' usually tells a lot19:20
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kfox1111hmm... nova.openstack.common.notifier.rpc_notifier.... I'm not seeing the code for that.19:55
kfox1111what should it be set to?19:55
openstackgerritMerged openstack/designate: Update periodic sync defaults  https://review.openstack.org/16987220:01
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ekarlsokfox1111: ?20:11
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openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate: DevStack: Akamai/Dyn Support for Jenkins Credentials and Exercices  https://review.openstack.org/16989120:31
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openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate: DevStack: Akamai/Dyn Support for Jenkins Credentials and Exercises  https://review.openstack.org/16989120:48
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openstackgerritJohn Belamaric proposed openstack/designate:     Infoblox backend for Designate  https://review.openstack.org/13882420:54
johnbelamaric1kiall: i got our backend end working a little bit - at least i can create/delete domains. but it  looks like the create_record API never gets called in our backend. so, i am guessing the contract changed here20:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/designate: Ensure mDNS can AXFR zones over 65k  https://review.openstack.org/16981821:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/designate: Correct min-ttl default config value  https://review.openstack.org/16987521:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/designate: Akamai: mDNS must run on port 53  https://review.openstack.org/16947921:43
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openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate: Implement default page size for V2 API  https://review.openstack.org/14250521:51
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openstackgerritJohn Belamaric proposed openstack/designate:     Infoblox backend for Designate  https://review.openstack.org/13882422:38
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