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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/project-navigator-data master: Add Ocata release info for Manila https://review.openstack.org/460319 | 00:51 |
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| jamespage | icey: provided some more feedback on the review for lxd storage pool usage | 08:45 |
| jamespage | icey: also might be good to tag a milestone for pike (even if we are a bit late) - I can deal with that if you are in agreement | 08:46 |
| icey | sounds good jamespage, the unrelated int() casts are to handle an apparent behaviour change in py3 that changes the accuracy and breaks the tests :-/ | 08:47 |
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| icey | exampe jamespage : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24465648/ | 08:51 |
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| jamespage | icey: so this is a py3 unit test break/fix? | 08:58 |
| icey | jamespage: yeah, I'll make a separate review to bring those fixes in | 08:58 |
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| jamespage | icey: ok milestone tagged and pushed | 09:02 |
| jamespage | icey: ftr I've picked your rbd local attach fix for os-brick in artful/pike | 09:02 |
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| icey | ack thanks jamespage | 09:03 |
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| icey | jamespage: https://review.openstack.org/460468 handles the casts to fix python 3 testing | 09:26 |
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| sileht | Hi devstack-core can I have some love for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437912/ ? | 11:08 |
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| flaper87 | cdent: hey, just read your TC report. Thanks for sending that out. I was wondering if you were aware of the previous efforts from the communications working group in the TC ? | 13:55 |
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| flaper87 | cdent: it's something Anne and myself started but then kinda died in the last 6mon. It's something I was hoping to pick up again | 13:57 |
| cdent | flaper87: yeah, I remember that | 13:57 |
| flaper87 | cdent: since you seem to be interested in sending reports, would you like to help me out writing this posts? We can send them to the m-l too | 13:57 |
| cdent | it was at least partly in response to me hassling people about it | 13:57 |
| cdent | sure, but I may continue writing my own as well, because part of the point of doing so is it to provide an opinionated/editorialized view on what we're up to, and cause some dicussion | 13:58 |
| flaper87 | cdent: gotcha, didn't know your goal was to provide an opinionated view in your reports. Sounds good then :) | 14:00 |
| cdent | flaper87: did you make it to the end of mine, where I say that? | 14:01 |
| lbragstad | sdague https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460344/ is related to the policy things we were discussing with mriedem and johnthetubaguy a couple weeks ago. I wanted to take the approach you used with limits and quotas to help clear things up before Boston | 14:01 |
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| flaper87 | cdent: I did not get to the colophon part, no. I now did :) | 14:02 |
| cdent | :) | 14:03 |
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| cdent | flaper87: I certainly agree that there should probably also be an official mouthpiece of the TC, and I'm very happy to help make that go | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | cdent: cool, lemme try to organize the work again and I'll ping you. The discussion of dropping meetings will make all this even more interesting | 14:07 |
| cdent | yes, very | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cdent: flaper87: in terms of replacing the meeting and telling people what is going on every week, it feels those two issues shares quite a lot in common? | 14:25 |
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| cdent | johnthetubaguy: it's not quite the same. they are certainly related, but in the case of a meeting, you can show up and participate in the present. a summary is not participation because it is no longer in the present | 14:26 |
| cdent | so if we want to get rid of the meetings we have to be _really_ sure that the amount of conversation on the mailing list goes up by quite a lot | 14:26 |
| cdent | (which I think it should do, whatever happens with the meetings) | 14:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cdent: very true, yes | 14:28 |
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| mordred | just for the record, while I totaly agree with flaper87 on the meeting thing, the mailing list also gives me PTSD a lot of times and can be just as off-putting for a set of folks, so I do think we shouldn't _only_ rely on it | 14:47 |
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| cdent | mordred: I don't know if you were there for this part of the interoperability api discussions at the PTG but one of the things that came up is that it is the responsibility of devs to take on what might be perceived as a hardship (not changing the API, or at least using microversions) for the sake of the users | 15:11 |
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| cdent | It _might_ be the case that taking on some email pain is part of what we need to do in order to be able to ensure maximum access | 15:12 |
| cdent | but you're also right | 15:12 |
| cdent | so I dunno | 15:12 |
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| flaper87 | mordred: ++ on the m-l giving PSTD often :D | 15:22 |
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| cdent | flaper87, mordred : don't you wonder that if the ml gives PTSD that that is a problem to be addressed (if possible), not something to be avoided? | 15:26 |
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| flaper87 | cdent: yup, I'm not saying it shouldn't be addressed but acknowledging that it's *also* a problem that we can't just ignore. That said, I'd still prefer that over what we have now | 15:27 |
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| mordred | cdent: wow, well said. I'm pretty sure I was not only at that part but was the one making the most unreasonable version of support for that argument | 15:44 |
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| mordred | cdent: which means it would be epically inconsistent of me to not apply it here too :) | 15:44 |
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| cdent | I feel at my best when pointing out inconsistencies ;) | 15:44 |
| cdent | It's my calling? | 15:45 |
| cdent | I don't know, I'm inconsistent | 15:45 |
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| sdague | oh, mordred your exception injection into the journal totally is broken | 16:12 |
| mordred | sdague: yeah? that's super awesome. did I typo? or is the whole thing conceptually bong? | 16:13 |
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| sdague | so, I think exc_info might not be a string | 16:15 |
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| sdague | http://logs.openstack.org/62/460062/4/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/e52ae45/logs/devstack@n-api.service.log.txt.gz#_Apr_27_12_26_46_780705 | 16:16 |
| sdague | mordred: at least something is coming through as a tuple | 16:16 |
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| mordred | sdague: hrm. interesting. and yah - exc_info is totally a tuple - but that's how ourupstream systemd friends add it | 16:20 |
| mordred | sdague: who would have guessed that there would be a bug upstream in systemd? | 16:21 |
| sdague | mordred: yeh, I don't think it's tested anywhere | 16:21 |
| mordred | sdague: _clearly_ | 16:21 |
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| mordred | sdague: oh - and it was find in oslo.log tests because we're just mocking the call | 16:23 |
| sdague | yeh | 16:23 |
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| sdague | although ... https://github.com/systemd/python-systemd/blob/master/systemd/journal.py#L409 | 16:24 |
| sdague | https://github.com/systemd/python-systemd/commit/8921c79fb98e5e04c0e2f00813e9d8e015e4206e | 16:25 |
| sdague | looks like it was fixed 2 months ago | 16:25 |
| sdague | so upstream totally will work | 16:25 |
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| sdague | yep, ok, so this distro version is 231 | 16:28 |
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| sdague | mordred: so actually, upstream doesn't have a bug | 16:32 |
| sdague | they caught it before release, and fixed it, we were following a pattern that works in latest release, but not in older ones | 16:32 |
| mordred | ahhhh | 16:35 |
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| mordred | sdague: so fix on our side would just be to str() the exc_info yeah? | 16:36 |
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| sdague | well, or actually use our gr | 16:37 |
| sdague | I'm going to start with using gr correctly | 16:37 |
| sdague | then, I'll work backwards and make some of that more robust | 16:37 |
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| sdague | it's also good that we actually had something trigger that in the gate | 16:38 |
| sdague | one tempest test tickles a late exception translation in nova that failed here in a way that failed a tempest test | 16:39 |
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| mordred | "gr" ? | 16:46 |
| mordred | sdague: also - I'm happy to help follow up on this since I introduced the current issue | 16:47 |
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| mtreinish | mordred: probably global requirements? | 16:49 |
| mordred | mtreinish: that was my first expansion in my brain, but then I wasn't sure given context in the sentence | 16:50 |
| mtreinish | mordred: or maybe it's just sdague's expresssion of frustration with the world :) | 16:50 |
| mordred | mtreinish: fair. and well and justly earner | 16:51 |
| mordred | mtreinish: fair. and well and justly earned | 16:51 |
| _alastor_ | hey folks. I'm trying to use the python-openstacksdk and I'm running into an issue with roles and role assignments. I can't seem to find a way to update a role assignment via the SDK. See here: https://github.com/openstack/python-openstacksdk/blob/master/openstack/identity/v3/_proxy.py#L876 , None of the attributes on Role appear to be linked to Role Assignment, but Role Assignment has no | 16:51 |
| _alastor_ | "update_role_assignment" method in the SDK | 16:52 |
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| mordred | briancurtin: ^^ | 16:52 |
| dtroyer | _alastor_: also, SDK (and client bits in general) is often spoken in #openstack-sdks | 16:53 |
| _alastor_ | dtroyer: ah, whoops. I'll switch over there | 16:54 |
| dtroyer | np, most of us are here too | 16:54 |
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