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| cdent | ildikov: you look like maybe it is time to run for leader of the world: https://twitter.com/citycloud/status/849172210266845184 | 12:06 |
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| cdent | you look so serious and confident. "I can do anything!" | 12:07 |
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| ildikov | I'm trying to make myself believe I can, I'm still far from it though... :) | 12:08 |
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| EmilienM | mtreinish: FYI I -1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420878/ - I think we need to collaborate more before choosing this solution. | 15:13 |
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| mtreinish | EmilienM: ok, yeah if there is a tooling gap I'm happy to work on filling it. But, I think the rss feeds from o-h does what that's trying to solve | 15:14 |
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| EmilienM | mtreinish: I do agree, that's why i'm against this spec now. | 15:15 |
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| arxcruz | EmilienM: I'm here | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | arxcruz: like I was just saying to mtreinish, I think we need to discuss about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420878/ and why we couldn't use status.openstack.org/openstack-health | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | arxcruz: and if there is a gap, let's work with mtreinish to figure if we can reach it | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | before trying to implement and maintain our own tooling | 15:22 |
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| arxcruz | EmilienM: okay | 15:23 |
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| arxcruz | EmilienM: the 'tool' is actually a python script, some lines of code | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | arxcruz: right, I've reviewed it | 15:23 |
| arxcruz | the idea is every run check the failures for that particular run and based on a yaml file, send email to key people | 15:24 |
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| EmilienM | arxcruz: i'm just saying that for the sake of consistent and collaboration, we need to investigate what already exist in OpenStack before implementing it | 15:24 |
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| EmilienM | arxcruz: which is exactly what openstack health is doing (except it's RSS) | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | but we can transform an RSS to an email super easily | 15:24 |
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| arxcruz | EmilienM: so, we need something that keep listening openstack-health and send email when there's a new run right ? | 15:25 |
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| weshay | o/ | 15:28 |
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| EmilienM | arxcruz: once you provide the subunit file in the logdir, openstack-health will read it. There is a patch to do somewhere but mtreinish can remain us | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | arxcruz: and yes, there are some tools on the internet that are able to send email from rss | 15:30 |
| arxcruz | yeah, still, need something listening, to send the emails | 15:30 |
| weshay | hey | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | I use ifttt fwiw | 15:30 |
| arxcruz | new job running, test fails, need to check which test is, and send email | 15:30 |
| weshay | the requirement we have from the prod-chain is an email | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | mtreinish: thoughts ^ | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | weshay: I got it | 15:30 |
| mtreinish | arxcruz: rss feeds are a subscription model. You subscribe to them instead of pushing to something. If you have a central list for failures you can use a tool like EmilienM is describing to send an email to that list from an rss feed (or multiples) | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | mtreinish: what we want is an email everytime there is a failure | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | but I think the rss to email tools over the internet can do it | 15:32 |
| arxcruz | mtreinish: exactly, you subscribe means, you need to keep listening for new jobs, got one new job, check for failures, have failures, check the to who send the email | 15:33 |
| weshay | sorry guys I joined late.. is there an issue w/ using email? | 15:33 |
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| mtreinish | EmilienM: yeah, o-h will update the rss feed when a new failure is added to the DB | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | https://blogtrottr.com/ also is realtime | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | weshay: we're trying to see how we can leverage the need to an existing feature in OpenStack QA tooling | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | weshay: status.openstack.org/openstack-health | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | which is a fantastic tooling | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | mtreinish: is there a patch to do to update the list of projects where o-h is listening? | 15:35 |
| arxcruz | EmilienM: just need to have testrepository.subunit in root dir on logs.openstack.org | 15:35 |
| arxcruz | and the tests/jobs will start to show up | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | yeah, like we have in puppet CI | 15:36 |
| weshay | EmilienM, mtreinish we can have both an email and use openstack-health no? | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | see http://logs.openstack.org/30/452630/4/check/gate-puppet-openstack-integration-4-scenario001-tempest-centos-7/3c9feb5/logs/testrepository.subunit | 15:36 |
| arxcruz | but the thing is, right now, I just need to run the script once tempest finishes, it will check the failures prepare a mail template using jinja and post to a service that is running on openshift to send the email | 15:36 |
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| arxcruz | it's already done, and working | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | I know the tool is ready for review, etc | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | I'm trying to understand if we really need it | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | it's imho a duplicate effort with what o-h is doing, modulo the format | 15:38 |
| mtreinish | EmilienM: it's done dynamically based on what's in the db. The worker populates the db based on subunit files in the logs that get uploaded at the end of a job | 15:38 |
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| mtreinish | EmilienM: it looks here: https://github.com/openstack-infra/system-config/blob/master/modules/openstack_project/files/logstash/jenkins-log-client.yaml#L14-L35 for subunit | 15:38 |
| arxcruz | using rss, I need to create a tool to subscribe for o-h, and keep listening for new jobs, and get the list of people to send the email, unless we can point to the interested people to please subscribe to this jobs to receive the email when something fails | 15:38 |
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| weshay | let me try to explain the need | 15:38 |
| arxcruz | and later, the idea is have this in Zuul v3 | 15:38 |
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| arxcruz | job finishes, check the list of interested people and send an email with the list of failures | 15:38 |
| weshay | The goal here is to consistently check, and fix any tempest issues found when running tripleo upstream | 15:39 |
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| weshay | we will not be running full tempest in any check jobs | 15:39 |
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| weshay | to be successful in capturing and remediating all tempest errors the load of work has to be distributed | 15:39 |
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| weshay | a targeted email to project leaders and a general list srv will help teams and leaders understand the current quality and issues upstream | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | and having the output in openstack-health would (1) bring more visibility in the results (2) allow anyone to subrscribe to the results via RSS or email | 15:41 |
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| EmilienM | so here's the proposal : | 15:42 |
| arxcruz | EmilienM: yes, I will add the subunit on logs.o.o root dir and it will start appear there | 15:42 |
| arxcruz | one thing does not affect the other | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | (1) move the subunit file in a place that can be read from o-h | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | (2) update the tooling that arxcruz wrote to send an email if you want that thing | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | (3) let people subscribe to RSS and communicate about the RSS links | 15:43 |
| weshay | +1 | 15:43 |
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| arxcruz | EmilienM: I didn't get (2), the tool already send an email :) | 15:44 |
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| mtreinish | weshay: so just an fyi notification models for this kinda thing never work. It depends on having someone on call to fix it, which there never is. We've tried this several times in the past and it doesnt get things fixed faster or at all | 15:46 |
| mtreinish | and what really ends up happening if you end up getting a failure email every day it just gets ignored | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | "as an openstack-health user, I already subscribe to RSS and I have a tool that sends me email at new RSS entry" | 15:46 |
| mtreinish | for example: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/job/periodic-tempest-dsvm-nnet-ubuntu-xenial-ocata?duration=P6M&resolutionKey=day | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | why would I need your tool then? | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | arxcruz: ^ | 15:47 |
| mtreinish | that has been failing since feb and it sends an email to the stable maint list every day | 15:47 |
| mtreinish | still isn't fixed | 15:47 |
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| mtreinish | that's a big part of why we wrote o-h to actually provide a useful interface to figure out info about failures | 15:48 |
| weshay | I understand your point, and I think I can generally concur w/ emails getting lost a long the way | 15:49 |
| weshay | the folks we're planning on sending this to, I think we'll have a very good response rate | 15:49 |
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| EmilienM | mtreinish: weshay has a good point, we have a folks who take care of CI and issues when promoting repos | 15:50 |
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| weshay | the information needs to be pushed out, not pulled in our use case | 15:51 |
| EmilienM | weshay: again, some tools already exist to push rss entries into emails | 15:51 |
| EmilienM | it's worth looking a it maybe | 15:52 |
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| EmilienM | but if arxcruz works on "moving the subunit file to the right place so o-h can read it", I'm happy enough for now | 15:52 |
| arxcruz | EmilienM: I will do it :) | 15:53 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:53 |
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| EmilienM | arxcruz, weshay : an example of RSS feed http://health.openstack.org/runs/key/build_name/gate-puppet-openstack-integration-4-scenario001-tempest-centos-7/recent/rss | 15:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | amrith proposed openstack/governance master: Propose the addition of an assert:maintenance-mode https://review.openstack.org/449925 | 15:59 |
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| notmyname | dims: mordred: FYI 0.20+ is needed to enable pypy in the gate (which I was just about to work on today, but i guess not now) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448104/ | 16:34 |
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| notmyname | it's not a critical thing, but it is something I wanted to reenable for swift (we had it in the days of yore) | 16:35 |
| notmyname | and I'd been waiting on the eventlet bump first. anyway, just an FYI of other things looking at using the newer eventlet | 16:36 |
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| lbragstad | sdague I have unified limits on the schedule for today's keystone meeting in case you want to drop by - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 16:38 |
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| mordred | notmyname: cool - we may also be geting the eventlet folks to cut a release sooner | 16:49 |
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| notmyname | is the TC meeting at 1900 or 2000 UTC? | 16:50 |
| clarkb | notmyname: 2000 | 16:51 |
| notmyname | thanks | 16:51 |
| clarkb | infra is 1900 | 16:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/governance master: Draft technical committee vision for public feedback https://review.openstack.org/453262 | 16:58 |
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| dims | sdague : thanks for PM'ing ^^ | 17:00 |
| sdague | dims: no prob | 17:01 |
| sdague | lbragstad: what time? | 17:01 |
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| lbragstad | sdague in 50 minutes | 17:09 |
| lbragstad | sdague http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Keystone_Team_Meeting | 17:09 |
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| jroll | dtroyer: snow tomorrow, 60s next week :P | 21:08 |
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