Tuesday, 2016-05-17

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Nakatolifeless: I seem to remember us talking about Constraints with libraries at some point.  Oslo/Clients/etc.  Was it just that we needed to do some work to add support, or a reason to not do it?01:34
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lifelessNakato: do you mean in tox? Yes, we should totally do that.05:25
lifelessNakato: muranclient has a patch up at the moment trying to get that to work05:25
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Nakatolifeless: Have a patch number for that?   This is the only one I know of.  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301541/105:27
lifelessNakato: that is the one05:28
Nakatolifeless: Cool.  Yea, been starting to look into that, and tox.  Starting to wonder if something is in constraints and it is the install target and local if we should just install rather than having constraints throw an error though.05:29
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack/governance: Update Kuryr deliverable  https://review.openstack.org/31405705:30
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larsbutlerHi, I have quick question about patch submissions. According to the developer manual (http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html), it seems that single commit patches are favored, rather than patches with multiple small commits. Is this true? Is it possible to submit multi-commit patches? Does it matter?09:48
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thervelarsbutler, Yes single commits are favored, because that's how Gerrit works.10:06
larsbutlertherve: okay, I’ll squash then. thanks!10:06
therveThat said, depending on projects, you still want to keep them as small as possible10:06
therveJust think about the smallest independent chunks10:08
larsbutlerRight. In this case, I suppose the changes _do_ belong together, so squashing makes sense.10:08
larsbutlerI still prefer to make separate commits, even if the changes are semi-related, but that’s just my personal preference :)10:09
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openstackgerritJoel Coffman proposed openstack/openstack-specs: Add image signature verification specification  https://review.openstack.org/31471811:55
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antony_Hi Team , i want to configure openstack using restconf , is there any way to do tht ? any pointers ?12:21
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openstackgerritDaniel Koenig-Schieber proposed openstack/governance: Add networking-extreme repo to Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/31747313:58
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sigmavirus24dolphm: I'm not sure I agree but open an issue on requests and we can discuss it there14:09
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sigmavirus24dolphm: I left other feedback on that review that you pointed out14:37
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tbarronwht's the right channel for tooz/DLM ?15:41
clarkbtbarron: #openstack-oslo I think15:43
tbarronclarkb: ty!15:44
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ihrachyslifeless:16:39
ihrachyslifeless: I would like to run a potential fixtures issue with you16:40
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ihrachyslifeless: with new fixtures, liberty neutronclient was broken. I guess partly it's our fault due to missing constraints there (I will fix it)16:40
ihrachyslifeless: but still, I now get this: http://logs.openstack.org/36/258336/4/check/gate-python-neutronclient-python34/8a9ed3d/testr_results.html.gz16:41
ihrachys"TypeError: get_attr_metadata() missing 1 required positional argument: 'self'"16:41
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ihrachysnote that the error occurs only when e.g. neutronclient.tests.unit.test_client_extension.CLITestV20ExtensionJSONChildResource is executed before the test failing16:41
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sdagueannegentle: that actually opens up the 2nd question, which is governance on this19:19
annegentlesure sdague we've been using docs in projects.yaml for fairy-slipper for example19:19
sdagueannegentle: based on your suggestion of it using openstack-doc-tools, I assume you think we should add this to the doc project?19:20
sdaguesure19:20
annegentlesdague it was the answer for fairy-slipper so I see a parallel19:20
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sdagueI'm fine with that, I just wanted to actually talk to you before putting that forward19:20
sdagueif you want to propose that to project.yaml, being much more in the docs camp than I, that would be cool19:20
annegentlesdague I did discuss with a few people about starting a new API-focused project, but meh19:20
annegentlesure sdague will do19:21
sdaguethen we can setup the docs publish of os-api-ref to d.o.o19:21
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sdaguebecause not being in projects.yaml meant the docs had no online home19:21
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annegentlesdague what's the release model for os-api-ref?19:22
annegentlesdague fairy-slipper has release:independent19:22
sdagueyeh19:22
sdagueit's independent19:22
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openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/governance: Adds the Sphinx extension used to publish API reference docs  https://review.openstack.org/31768619:23
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sdaguecool19:24
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sdagueannegentle: also, if you want to do whatever layout.yaml changes to put a docs publisher in place, that would be cool19:24
annegentlesdague I'm also noodling on an overarching navigation for all the API refs.19:24
sdagueI wrote a bunch of usage docs this weekend19:24
sdaguebut they are a bit stranded in tree19:24
annegentlesdague and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317094/ is an attempt to figure out which projects need REST API docs19:24
annegentleis it 30? Not entirely sure yet.19:25
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annegentlesdague also what about projects that already build "plain" RST REST API docs? I don't think it's imperative that they have a parameters.yaml file? But, if I build a common nav, how do we ensure everyone gets it?19:28
annegentlesdague theme I guess?19:28
sdagueor a stanza19:28
annegentlesdague what's that --- a Sphinx piece? Like a directive?19:29
sdagueyeh19:29
sdagueit just gives us a hook to insert content from the library19:29
sdagueso, that would be one way of handling it19:29
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sdagueannegentle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317687/1/CONTRIBUTING.rst look good to you?19:30
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mugsiesdague: after writing up some of designates API, I was wondering would a directive for the Success / Error HTTP codes be useful for os-api-ref ?19:41
mugsieif it would be, I can give it a shot this evening19:42
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annegentlemugsie sure, esp. if it has more info. Here's a link to what would be more ideal, to me: https://github.com/annegentle/wadl2rst/issues/6#issuecomment-20091713319:49
annegentlemugsie especially reasons19:50
sdaguemugsie: sure, you want to write up an etherpad or email as to what you were thinking?19:50
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sdaguelet's flesh it out first, then we could look at getting it in19:50
annegentlemugsie sdague yeah would like some design up front19:50
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sdaguemugsie: I'm pushing out a 0.1.1 with your expand_all fix and karen's max_version add19:55
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sdaguethanks for fixing my busted javascript btw19:55
mugsiesdague: np. I try to forget my past, but JS keeps appearing :)19:56
sdagueheh19:56
mugsieannegentle: sure, that issue is kinda what I was thinking19:56
mugsieI will hack at it, then send an mail19:57
mugsieto -docs right?19:57
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annegentlemugsie both -dev and -docs or just -dev with [api]19:57
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mugsieannegentle: ack19:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance: [I18n] Add Zanata dev team as extra ATC  https://review.openstack.org/31393420:10
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lifelessNakato: how would we separate out 'user specified' and 'a dependency of something else'20:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance: Add new project openstack-salt  https://review.openstack.org/31453120:59
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notmynameFYI today marks six years for openstack swift being in production21:29
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notmorganlifeless: so, since you're here i figure'd I'd ask... is there some magic invocation I can use that will help me say "if requirement X is installed, don't install requirement Y, but if none is installed, install Y"?22:05
* notmorgan assumes lifeless is around...and may be wrong.22:05
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notmorgancc dstufft ^ (question i asked lifeless)22:06
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lifelessnotmorgan: no22:22
notmorganlifeless: ok fair enough. ugh. makes the move to pyldap a little more difficult since it installs in the same space as python-ldap ( import ldap )22:23
notmorganas a fork/py3 compat version22:23
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lifelessnotmorgan: can you just use pyldap ?22:23
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notmorganlifeless: trying to be polite to users of ldappool22:23
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lifelessnotmorgan: ldappool doesn't work with python-ldap ?22:23
notmorganreleasing a new version (2.0.0, from 1.x.x previously) that now depends on pyldap22:23
notmorganit does work.22:23
notmorganjust python-ldap is *not* py3 compat22:23
lifelessok22:23
notmorganand ldappool needs one or the other22:24
lifelessso you're worried that folk with existing virtualenvs will get errors from pip on upgrades22:24
notmorgancurrently it installs python-ldap22:24
notmorganbasically22:24
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notmorganbut the code has bene languishing for ~3 yrs22:24
notmorganso... probably not a major issue22:24
notmorganas in zero commits in 3 years, not even bug fixes.22:24
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notmorgani just recently took over ldappool.22:24
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notmorganand pyldap is for all intents a drop-in replacement22:26
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lifelessnotmorgan: so yeah, nothing you can do about it today really22:27
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lifelessnotmorgan: the options are: don't declare the dep at all22:27
notmorganlifeless: fair enough, figured i'd ask :)22:27
lifelessnotmorgan: use python-ldap on 2.x, pyldap on 322:27
lifelessnotmorgan: use pyldap everywhere22:27
notmorgani think pyldap is the option i'm going with22:27
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notmorganlike i said, 3 years, zero code.22:27
notmorgani'm going to call it "look it's 2.0.0"22:27
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