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| skraynev_ | ttx: ping. do we have any milestone like rc-1 for bugs? or we need to target them on "** next" and add some tag? I want just re-target some existing bugs from m-3 | 09:06 |
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| ttx | skraynev_: you can create any milestone that you see fit to manage your workload. Creating a RC1 sounds like a good idea | 09:39 |
| ttx | I can help doing the LP dance if that helps | 09:39 |
| skraynev_ | ttx: yeah. it will be good. I suppose, that I need to click Create milestone here https://launchpad.net/heat/mitaka. right? | 09:40 |
| ttx | yes | 09:40 |
| skraynev_ | can both name and code name be the same: rc-1 ? | 09:41 |
| skraynev_ | and which date target should I use? | 09:41 |
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| skraynev_ | 14 or 18 Mar ? | 09:42 |
| skraynev_ | date - I mean expected date for milestone | 09:42 |
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| skraynev_ | ttx: and also, do I need to create milestone Newton or something like that for moving BPs which we canceled for Mitaka. Currently they are targeted on *next* | 09:44 |
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| ttx | hmm, I should probably be creating all that | 09:44 |
| ttx | (the newton series and the newton milestones) | 09:44 |
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| ttx | I'll do that today or tomorrow | 09:45 |
| skraynev_ | ttx: yeah. if it's possible. it will allow us don't loose some BPs :) | 09:45 |
| skraynev_ | ttx: good. thank you. also , what about two short questions above ? | 09:45 |
| ttx | I'll create the RC1 milestones too | 09:45 |
| skraynev_ | great! ttx, you are rock ! :) thx | 09:46 |
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| sdague | bknudson: you should get in #openstack-sdks | 14:52 |
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| dmsimard | jamespage: where's that page that shows the package version for openstack packages across the different repos again ? | 14:56 |
| dmsimard | my googlefu is failing me | 14:56 |
| jamespage | dmsimard, http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/ | 14:56 |
| dmsimard | jamespage: exactly it ty | 14:56 |
| jamespage | np | 14:56 |
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| ihrachys | dims: are we in deps freeze already for global requirements? | 15:48 |
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| ihrachys | dims: we were looking at introducing a py27 only dep for neutron docs job. would it be a good fit at this point in time? | 15:48 |
| ihrachys | it's not runtime thing, purely docs | 15:49 |
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| dims | ihrachys : "R-5 (Feb 29 - Mar 4) is the Mitaka-3 milestone and overall feature, requirements, and string freezes." http://markmail.org/message/ywuy2pvycchda3q6 | 15:51 |
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| ihrachys | dims: oh great. so we are in theory still in line. | 15:51 |
| dims | ihrachys : so probably a little more time, so i'd suggest to file the review and take a shot | 15:51 |
| ihrachys | dims: it's already there actually | 15:51 |
| dims | ah even better :) | 15:51 |
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| ihrachys | dims: that one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281880/ | 15:52 |
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| dims | dhellmann : WDYT? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281880/ | 15:53 |
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| dims | ihrachys : glad it's just docs, but still py27 only may be a problem. | 15:53 |
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| ihrachys | dims: we don't run docs with py3 anywhere right? | 15:53 |
| dims | ihrachys : true | 15:54 |
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| ihrachys | we have some runtime deps that require py27 | 15:54 |
| ihrachys | like for neutron, we rely on 'ovs' | 15:54 |
| ihrachys | which is ovs>=2.4.0;python_version=='2.7' | 15:55 |
| ihrachys | I assume doc deps should be even more liberal | 15:55 |
| sdague | bknudson (or other keystone folks) | 15:56 |
| sdague | I found you can't 'tox -e py27' if you haven't install ldap things | 15:56 |
| sdague | on keystone repo | 15:56 |
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| bknudson | sdague: some -dev packages probably, due to python-ldap using C library | 15:57 |
| sdague | http://paste.openstack.org/show/488589/ | 15:57 |
| sdague | bknudson: ok, so shouldn't those tests just skip under that circumstance? | 15:57 |
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| stevemar | the ldap bits should install, tox should install the extra bits in setup.cfg | 15:58 |
| sdague | basically, it's why my feb 29th bug wasn't fully fixed | 15:58 |
| sdague | stevemar: not unless you have something else | 15:58 |
| sdague | than I have | 15:58 |
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| stevemar | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/tox.ini#L10-L11 | 15:59 |
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| sdague | I get no errors during tox install phase | 15:59 |
| sdague | but then test run errors | 15:59 |
| bknudson | this is something different than not having ldap-dev packages | 15:59 |
| bknudson | I haven't seen this one before. | 16:00 |
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| sdague | it is very confusing | 16:00 |
| sdague | http://paste.openstack.org/show/488590/ | 16:00 |
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| stevemar | what happens if you nuke your .tox ? -- oh nvm, that's line 1 | 16:01 |
| stevemar | hmm | 16:01 |
| sdague | right | 16:01 |
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| sdague | hence, the confusing | 16:01 |
| stevemar | that is very weird | 16:01 |
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| sdague | ubuntu 15.10 | 16:01 |
| sdague | yeh, I don't know, this is why I was bringing it up. Because I would have tested that patch locally, but when tox -e py27 failed like that I just pushed it instead | 16:02 |
| sdague | because I had no idea what was up there | 16:02 |
| stevemar | maybe it's a 15.10 thing | 16:03 |
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| sdague | could be | 16:03 |
| stevemar | if it happened on any of the OSs that the CI runs with, we'd know right away. | 16:04 |
| sdague | stevemar: maybe | 16:04 |
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| sdague | there is a lot of other setup that happens there | 16:04 |
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| stevemar | true, i could try on a blank 14.04 machine in a minute | 16:05 |
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| sdague | but regardless, the point of tox was supposed to be that we had a standard testing interface that worked for people | 16:05 |
| sdague | if the answer is 'tox -e py27' doesn't work off a raw clone.... it's kind of an issue for getting drive by fixes | 16:05 |
| stevemar | very true | 16:07 |
| stevemar | sdague: file a bug so we don't forget about it? | 16:08 |
| sdague | stevemar: sure, can do. I figured I'd ask in irc incase it was an easy thing someone knew already | 16:09 |
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| stevemar | nope, that's a new one to me, it'll take some time to see what exactly is going on | 16:12 |
| sdague | stevemar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1551312 | 16:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1551312 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Python unit tests don't run in a clean 15.10 environment" [Undecided,New] | 16:12 |
| sdague | if there is any other details you can think of that would be relevant, let me know | 16:12 |
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| mriedem | jamespage: hey, i'm looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ceph/+bug/1535278 | 16:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1535278 in ceph (Ubuntu Trusty) "0.80.11 stable point release" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to James Page (james-page) | 16:28 |
| mriedem | jamespage: and wondering how we can tell if https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/6525 is in that release? | 16:28 |
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| mriedem | b/c we're hitting that in the gate now | 16:29 |
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| jamespage | mriedem, looks like its not in - https://github.com/ceph/ceph/commit/3ab1668c6ac96538bae358a05cef7d97449e7676 | 16:29 |
| mriedem | http://goo.gl/gj6PFs | 16:29 |
| jamespage | 10.0.0 onwards | 16:29 |
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| mriedem | is there any chance it can be backported? | 16:30 |
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| jamespage | mriedem, yes looking now | 16:30 |
| mriedem | thanks | 16:30 |
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| jamespage | mriedem, just reviewing http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/13636 | 16:31 |
| jamespage | mriedem, hmm it got rejected for firefly - http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/13757 | 16:32 |
| jamespage | odd | 16:32 |
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| thingee | aspiers: ping | 16:54 |
| aspiers | thingee: hey :) | 16:54 |
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| thingee | aspiers: with regards to HA cross-project summit topics, we have had them in the past fwiw. | 16:55 |
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| aspiers | thingee: I remember one in San Fran | 16:56 |
| aspiers | (I think) | 16:56 |
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| aspiers | it's possible I attended others and forgot, or just missed them | 16:56 |
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| aspiers | but I think there's an increasing need as our HA ecosystem's capabilities grow and grow | 16:56 |
| thingee | aspiers: example tokyo we talked about distributed lock management | 16:56 |
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| aspiers | yeah OK, I remember you mentioning that | 16:57 |
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| thingee | aspiers: we'll eventually open up summit topic suggestion for cross-project though | 16:57 |
| aspiers | cool | 16:57 |
| aspiers | I'd quite like to revisit https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/db-reconnect | 16:57 |
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| aspiers | thingee: also openstack-resource-agents is cross-project but currently has no obvious forum at the summit | 17:00 |
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| aspiers | similarly with the compute node HA stuff | 17:00 |
| aspiers | we can organise informal meetups between people we already know are interested, but it would be great to be able to somehow advertise these to a wider audience | 17:00 |
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| aspiers | not sure how to do that in the most effective way | 17:01 |
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| jamespage | mriedem, is that new with the .11 that dropped last week into -updates? | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | jamespage: ii librados2 0.80.11-0ubuntu1.14.04.1 amd64 RADOS distributed object store client library | 17:11 |
| jamespage | mriedem, okies.... | 17:11 |
| jamespage | that was my guess; our regression testing does not include cinder-backup right now | 17:11 |
| jamespage | looks like that's where the problem is hit right | 17:11 |
| mriedem | jamespage: well, it's quite rare | 17:12 |
| jamespage | mriedem, do you have a bug raised for this I can piggy back off? | 17:12 |
| mriedem | yeah, sec | 17:12 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1551305 | 17:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1551305 in Cinder "backup service crashes in ceph job with "pure virtual method called"" [Medium,Confirmed] | 17:12 |
| mriedem | it's not just showing up in cinder, it also fails randomly in glance/nova services that are using ceph | 17:12 |
| mriedem | and those projects run the ceph job | 17:12 |
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| mriedem | 17 failures in a week, so it's not common | 17:13 |
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| jamespage | mriedem, just trying to see if this is a .11 regression or not | 17:16 |
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| mriedem | jamespage: there are some other ceph job bugs opened in the last week, | 17:17 |
| mriedem | seems to be a general slowdown regression in those job runs causing timeouts | 17:17 |
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| jamespage | mriedem, 2016-02-24 is the release date on .11 going into updates | 17:18 |
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| jamespage | mriedem, http://logstash.openstack.org/#/dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=(message:%5C%22HTTP%20exception%20thrown:%20Service%20cinder-backup%20could%20not%20be%20found.%5C%22%20OR%20message:%5C%22pure%20virtual%20method%20called%5C%22)%20AND%20build_name:%5C%22gate-tempest-dsvm-full-ceph%5C%22%20AND%20tags:%5C%22screen%5C%22&from=21d | 17:18 |
| jamespage | is telling | 17:18 |
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| mriedem | jamespage: keep in mind logstash.o.o only goes back 10 days | 17:20 |
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| jamespage | mriedem, that I did not know | 17:20 |
| mriedem | but 2/24 would fall in that window | 17:20 |
| jamespage | it would indeed | 17:20 |
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| jamespage | mriedem, I've poked loicd upstream and will look asap at the backport | 17:26 |
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| jamespage | assuming he does not get there first... | 17:26 |
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| mriedem | thanks | 17:26 |
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| jamespage | mriedem, as ceph firefly is EOL from ceph's perspective we'll look at a backport for 14.04 only | 17:42 |
| jamespage | cholcombe in the storage team is going to try find some time today todo that | 17:42 |
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| mriedem | jamespage: ok | 17:45 |
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| vkmc | hey all, is there a workaround for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1540328 | 18:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1540328 in devstack "Devstack cannot install Horizon plugins using pip 8.x" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:32 |
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| thingee | nikhil: late response back, but excellent that your got the cross-project quotas meeting going | 18:49 |
| nikhil | thingee: ++ | 18:50 |
| nikhil | it's a bit later today | 18:50 |
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| thingee | yup 21:00 utc | 18:50 |
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| thingee | nikhil: is there any particular projects you have involved already, or is it just the general invitation from the ML? | 18:53 |
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| nikhil | thingee: this first mtg was just a quick kick start to the idea and get the group rolling | 18:56 |
| nikhil | I know that we're still in the FF range so a bunch of folks would be busy | 18:57 |
| nikhil | but we wanted to get some early eyes on | 18:57 |
| nikhil | would definitely love to socialize this idea more in the coming weeks | 18:57 |
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| thingee | harlowja_at_home: when do you think you'll be ready for meeting discussion w/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210549/ | 18:58 |
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| nikhil | alaski: hi Andrew. I was told that you were interested in the quotas stuff. if so, we've this new WG mtg today http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Cross-project_Quotas_and_Nested_Quotas_Working_Group_Virtual_Standup . Would be great to get your input. | 19:03 |
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| alaski | nikhil: cool, I'll try to drop in. At this point I'm mostly interested in keeping up to date on anything that will affect Nova to bring back to a wider audience. | 19:05 |
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| nikhil | alaski: sounds good. cya then. | 19:07 |
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| thingee | harlowja_at_home: are you interested in starting this back up? https://review.openstack.org/164035 | 19:15 |
| thingee | harlowja_at_home: cleaning up a bit in the repo | 19:15 |
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| thingee | annegentle: hey, I'm working on some tool chain documentation for contributors (e.g. irc, gerrit, git) ... where would such a thing make sense to be in? I didn't see any existing docs that was general contributor information like this. | 19:56 |
| thingee | annegentle: the only guide I found that was general contributor info was http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html ... but this would be tool chain docs for not just developers, but groups like product working group for example. | 19:57 |
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| annegentle | thingee: hey, in docs we ended up making our own because of the perceived cognitive burden on reviewers of the infra/manual source. | 20:07 |
| annegentle | thingee: I think it's a great idea to expand but wonder if it needs to be "yet another guide" | 20:07 |
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| annegentle | thingee: not that another guide is "bad" but that you'll want to gather reviewers around the guide they know | 20:08 |
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| harlowja_at_home | thingee, hmmmm, sureeee | 20:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | i'm always willing to clean it up, not sure that spec will do much, but sureeeee | 20:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 20:36 |
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| thingee | harlowja_at_home: well if you're unsure, then we don't need to discuss it. Was just figuring out what you want to do from here. | 21:20 |
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| thingee | annegentle: ok, how about putting it in the training guide that we use for upstream university? | 21:21 |
| annegentle | thingee: nice! sure. | 21:22 |
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| thingee | annegentle: whew ok great! thanks for the help | 21:22 |
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| harlowja_at_home | thingee, i just wanna fix all the things | 21:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | not use eventlet, ha | 21:26 |
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| mc_nair | nikhil: could you elaborate on your concerns for the related/dependent resources for quotas? | 21:44 |
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| nikhil | mc_nair: sure | 21:45 |
| nikhil | one sec | 21:45 |
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| nikhil | mc_nair: hey, sorry I was pulled away for in many directions! | 21:58 |
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| nikhil | mc_nair: so, I am thinking there is a way where many<->many relations in the projects will lead into | 21:58 |
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| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: hey ian, i've got a bug against requests-mock that i'm wondering if you know how to fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/requests-mock/+bug/1550980 | 21:59 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1550980 in requests-mock "Cookies not propagated to requests.Session" [Medium,Confirmed] | 21:59 |
| nikhil | 1. racy (specifically nested) quotas if not in the same project | 21:59 |
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| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: do you think you could leave any advice when you have a minute? basically requests is doing something funny and i need to work around it for cookie handling | 21:59 |
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| nikhil | 2. multiple queries to new project get the same quota evaluation, possibly resulting into rate limiting? (may be a bit far fetched) | 22:00 |
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| nikhil | that also makes the code hard to read, because the evaluations would be done on the returned dictionaries | 22:01 |
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| nikhil | 3. change in quota limits for one resource doesn't add up to the effect ? may be resulting into faulty upgrades | 22:02 |
| nikhil | mc_nair: those were some concerns | 22:02 |
| nikhil | of course they are sorta dependents on the fact that we are talking about new project | 22:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | jamielennox: I haven't looked at requests mock in a long time | 22:04 |
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| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: that's ok, it's more of a requests quirk i have to work around | 22:04 |
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| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: when requests merges the response cookies onto the session it doesn't use the response.cookies, it uses the response._original_response.headers | 22:05 |
| mc_nair | nikhil: thanks for letting me pull you in yet another direction | 22:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | jamielennox: right | 22:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm sure betamax does it correctly | 22:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | But we also operate drastically differently | 22:05 |
| nikhil | mc_nair: heh, no you're the first one to ping but others were mitaka-3 urgency so had to attend to them right away :| .. sorry. | 22:06 |
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| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: so i take a cookiejar for testing, the only way i can see this working is to dump the cookiejar into Set-Cookie headers | 22:06 |
| jamielennox | so that requests will parse them out again correctly | 22:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | jamielennox: yeah but those aren't always going to be complete | 22:06 |
| jamielennox | right, there's going to be some interesting edge cases in doing that | 22:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | also, I'm working on breaking the requests cookiejar for 3.0.0 | 22:07 |
| mc_nair | nikhil: but I still think I'm missing something... So I'm not seeing how having these related quotas would lead to race conditions. But maybe I'm just having a tough time following what an example of one of these related quotas would be | 22:07 |
| jamielennox | and best i can tell there is no way for me to have it done automatically, i'd have to write out how to translate a cookiejar to headers | 22:07 |
| nikhil | mc_nair: sure, I'm trying to formulate an example for you. | 22:08 |
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| nikhil | mc_nair: but let me ask this first | 22:08 |
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| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: yea, i haven't looked at the 3 progress, i'm just going to wait and see what happens | 22:08 |
| nikhil | mc_nair: is your concerns more around how they can even be quota related? | 22:08 |
| nikhil | mc_nair: or is it more around, if they are related how would there be a race? | 22:08 |
| nikhil | or both :) | 22:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | jamielennox: but good enough for a testcase is different from good enough for what I would use in betamax | 22:09 |
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| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: taking a cookiejar is a public interface, seemed easier to work with that making people write headers | 22:09 |
| mc_nair | nikhil: well I think I'm missing both currently, but I'm guessing my issues may be related :) | 22:09 |
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| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: and you can easily merge the two for the response cookies | 22:09 |
| jamielennox | it just fails on the session cookies | 22:10 |
| mc_nair | and if I'm able to follow an example maybe the other pieces will clikc | 22:10 |
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| sigmavirus24 | jamielennox: right, I'd have to look at requests-mock again though | 22:10 |
| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: is there a reason the session doesn't just do a merge_cookies on the response cookiejar? | 22:10 |
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| sigmavirus24 | jamielennox: mostly because the current way is about 10x more correct since hooks can modify the cookiejar and we only want to store legitimate cookies | 22:14 |
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| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: yea, and vendoring urllib3 means you're never going to break, just strange to do the same hack twice, once for response and once for session | 22:15 |
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| sigmavirus24 | jamielennox: it could probably be simpler but it's not really causing us problems (or really anyone else), betamax just had the problem that it wasn't getting the headers as raw headers at one point but it was easy to fix | 22:16 |
| nikhil | mc_nair: I think it might be worth coming up with a real example that I'm struggling to compose here (mostly because of multi-tasking) :( | 22:17 |
| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: yep, and it's kind of an edge case for what i know people are using requests-mock for but i would like to support it, i just don't see a logical way | 22:17 |
| nikhil | mc_nair: let me leave you a msg here in a bit.. | 22:17 |
| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: logical == me not having to write cookie header code | 22:18 |
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| mc_nair | nikhil: sure thing. This certainly isn't urgent, I'm just trying to get on the same page | 22:18 |
| nikhil | mc_nair: ++ | 22:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | jamielennox: yeah, to be honest, I feel like you supporting that is the wrong thing for what requests-mock does | 22:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | Because you're mocking responses and request/response cycles | 22:18 |
| mc_nair | nikhil: sounds good, just send something when you get some free time | 22:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | You're not mocking every last thing about how requests behaves | 22:18 |
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| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: yep, i don't try to specify an order to calls or anything like that | 22:19 |
| jamielennox | request this, get that | 22:19 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Right, it just feels like this is just outside the domain of requests-mock, whether you'd like to support it or not | 22:19 |
| jamielennox | yep, i'd agree with that - could even be considered a negative because you are going to get session cookies that you didn't explicity ask for | 22:20 |
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| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: that's a good point | 22:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | jamielennox: right, I'm not trying to say the user is wrong, I just don't know if this is something that is requests-mock responsibility | 22:21 |
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| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: alright - thanks for the chat, i think it's easiest to say that this is outside the scope of requests-mock | 22:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | jamielennox: okay | 22:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | I can always take a look at it tomorrow too but that's just my 2c | 22:23 |
| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: and try not to make too much work for supporting requests 3 :) | 22:23 |
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| sigmavirus24 | jamielennox: yeah, there are just some things with cookies that are broken | 22:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | Which will require breaking some stuff with the cookiejar | 22:23 |
| jamielennox | sigmavirus24: just cookies are broken | 22:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | Most of the other changes in 3.0.0 to date are "This *might* break someone so let's push it off until 3.0" | 22:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | Not "This is something we're intentionally breaking" | 22:24 |
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| nikhil | mc_nair: for now, I got just this example from glare (glance artifacts) where one artifact can have multiple blob properties (large sized backend objects like image blobs of the order of MB, GB, etc.) and I expect us to have dependency chaining for artifacts themselves. In this case, if we limit quota for blob size then it will result into artifacts being redundant and blob creation blocked on them or create them | 23:14 |
| nikhil | without blobs -- which is pointless. | 23:14 |
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| nikhil | mc_nair: I think the same with members on images -- do we limit the number of members a user can add? If so, that inadvertently reflects back on images. | 23:15 |
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| mc_nair | nikhil: reading up on glare so I can better understand the example. But I still am missing something. I'm not seeing why limiting the members a user can add would have implications with the image quota | 23:28 |
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| mc_nair | but I'll read more about Glare, that may help clear things up | 23:33 |
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