Tuesday, 2016-02-02

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thingeedolphm, jamielennox actually I think I'm going to cc people listed on the cp-spec liaison list on it. give people a chance to read it, since not a lot of people from the group have commented.03:18
jamielennoxthingee: excellent, i think just getting people to read it initially would be good03:19
thingeedolphm, jamielennox lets plan feb 9 to bring up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245629/5 assuming we start getting momentum03:19
jamielennoxthingee: i'll try and get there but i doubt i will - i spoke to dolphm and he'll be there03:19
thingeejamielennox: ah yes tz, no prob03:19
jamielennoxthingee: that would be easier03:19
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thingeejamielennox: so I wanted to talk to you about the individual client deprecation plans03:21
thingeejamielennox: and then I kind of just disappeared03:21
jamielennoxthingee: sure03:21
jamielennoxthingee: i don't have concrete plans but to me the next obvious CLIs are glance and cinder03:22
jamielennoxthe basic functions are implemented for both in OSC03:22
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thingeeso I had a question, things like heat don't exist yet. Congress may never exist in osc for example03:23
jamielennoxthingee: so it's not the sort of thing where i expect we'll have a deadline or even target on the spec03:23
jamielennoxmy intent with getting the cross project spec passed was to set a direction and then start moving over the core services03:24
thingeeI think some of the immediate things that are supported under osc make sense though?03:24
thingeeyes ok we're on the same page!03:24
jamielennoxso nova will be difficult as will swift i think03:24
jamielennoxbut if we can get deprecation notices in there and give them a long deprecation cycle and then start changing documentation03:25
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jamielennoxthen i think the other services will start to change just based on momentum03:25
jamielennoxas mentioned deprecation notices in glance and cinder03:25
jamielennoxand see what problems that causes to start03:26
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thingeejamielennox: what about things like micro versioning. is that a common solution at this point that we could have that rolled into osc?03:27
thingeejamielennox: that would be an immediate problem I see with nova03:27
jamielennoxthingee: so would microversioning affect the CLI interface?03:28
jamielennoxOSC still depends on novaclient so any version negotiation happening there will continue03:28
thingeeI guess I was under the impression osc was using python-sdk at this point.03:28
thingeeto which such things aren't needed anymore03:28
jamielennoxthingee: i haven't seen an update on openstack-sdk for a while03:29
thingeebriancurtin: ^03:29
jamielennoxi know it's the intent but they have to declare a 1.0 first03:29
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thingeejamielennox: got it03:29
jamielennoxthingee: however the -sdk is going to need to handle microversioning as well at some point03:29
jamielennox(maybe already does)03:29
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dolphmthingee: cool, feb 9 is a tiny bit easier for me03:34
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singamwhats openstack is it a programming language?07:46
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PandKinganyone able to help with a simple LMA 0.7.3 HttpOutputTrying to add support for a 3rd party event system.16:41
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pasquier-sPandKing: yes!16:41
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thingeeayoung: this is on the agenda for next cross-project meeting next week https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242852/ ... hope you can make it?17:44
thingeeayoung: I've cc'd all cross-project spec liaisons so hopefully it has more eyes by then17:44
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ayoungthingee, thanks17:57
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ayoungthingee, damnit, when you said "next meeting" I thought you meant today...I just saw that this was skipped. I would've headed out an hour ago if I'd seen that.  Am I right, that it is not happening today?20:59
thingeeayoung: yea feb 9, sorry for the confusion21:00
ayoungthingee, No problem.  Please remind me next week, though21:00
* thingee sets a reminder to remind ayoung of meeting ;)21:01
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* cdent wonders if BigTent has proved itself out21:01
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thingeecdent: it's not perfect, but I think it's motivating to remember where we came from21:05
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cdentthingee: perhaps, but from some angles it just looks like diffusion of effort21:05
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thingeeI think of it like dhellmann and annegentle said. it's just not expecting the tc to figure out and look at everything. It's groups like the api wg working with the TC to make a more informed decision21:06
thingeecdent: ^21:06
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cdentthingee: that's not what most people think of when then think of big tent21:07
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cdentthey think instead of "any project that wants to can get in on the openstack bandwagon"21:08
cdents/most people/many people/ (or maybe even just some)21:08
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thingeecdent: I see your point21:08
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cdentthis doesn't appear to be making openstack better, just making it more21:08
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BLZbubbadoes openstack have the trademark for "Horizon?"  VMware has a product named Horizon and it is a bit confusing21:35
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thingeeBLZbubba: link?21:38
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shamailthingee: it's their VDI solution.. https://www.vmware.com/products/horizon-view/21:41
BLZbubbatesting21:42
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