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| slogan621 | Does contributing to Stackforge have the same sla requirements as contributing to openstack? | 03:51 |
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| clarkb | depends on the project | 03:51 |
| clarkb | some require cla others dont | 03:51 |
| slogan621 | Does openstack require my employer to sign the company agreement? | 03:52 |
| slogan621 | I'm ok with the individual agreement in either case. But is that even required for Stackforge as a general rule? | 03:53 |
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| clarkb | many do require it but there isnt really a gwneral rule | 03:53 |
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| slogan621 | The issue is the wiki leads to a "getting" started page which lists signing sla, but it seems maybe that page was written for openstack, not Stackforge in mind. Leading to my confusion | 03:54 |
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| slogan621 | clarkeb: thanks | 03:55 |
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| SurajD | I am trying to solve bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1511748 and for that I have written a patch http://paste.fedoraproject.org/292190/ | 08:58 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1511748 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Adding new security group rule Custom ICMP rule has wrong error messages" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Suraj Deshmukh (surajssd009005) | 08:58 |
| SurajD | and getting errors http://paste.fedoraproject.org/292176/ please can anybody help me, or give some pointers. When testing after writing patch the error that show up is `ExpectedMethodCallsError: Verify: Expected methods never called:`. Please help. | 08:58 |
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| flaper87 | Jokke_: thanks for the ping, weill fix that | 13:15 |
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| sdague | flaper87: hey, what's up with stack traces on 404s? - http://logs.openstack.org/90/245990/2/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/6b397c6//logs/screen-g-api.txt.gz?level=WARNING | 13:43 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: I'll dig into that. It's apparently trying to fetch an image that doesn't exist | 13:50 |
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| krotscheck | ttx: The dependencies on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232756/ have merged, but it looks like gerrit didn't pick up the changes for it to merge. Also, there's a -1 vote on it now, any thoughts on how to proceed? | 14:06 |
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| ttx | krotscheck: i can get it merged by reapproving it, but will give a bit of time for zigo to post his comments | 14:12 |
| zigo | ttx: Thanks. FYI, I'm deep into other tasks, so please give me some time. | 14:13 |
| zigo | ttx: Is this plan to be applied also for Horizon, btw? | 14:13 |
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| ttx | krotscheck: I suspect yes ? | 14:14 |
| zigo | Because we wrote something completely different within the dev's doc in Horizon. | 14:14 |
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| zigo | See: https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/doc/source/topics/packaging.rst | 14:14 |
| zigo | And especially the XStatic part. | 14:15 |
| zigo | NPM is doing the total opposite thing as the 5 important features that XStatic brings. | 14:15 |
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| zigo | krotscheck: Your comments? | 14:17 |
| zigo | krotscheck: I would really love to have a deep conversation about this topic with someone like you. | 14:18 |
| zigo | Because that problem must be solved for distro too. | 14:18 |
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| krotscheck | zigo: I don't think horizon's going to package itself with npm anytime soon. This is for projcets that are embracing the entire javascript toolchain, like eslint-config-openstack. | 14:22 |
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| zigo | krotscheck: This is the first time I hear about this project, what does it do, and where can I read about it? | 14:22 |
| zigo | krotscheck: I have the issue with Fuel also anyway. | 14:22 |
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| krotscheck | zigo: It's shared linting rules for javascript. Basically the javascript version of hacking | 14:22 |
| zigo | krotscheck: I had a look, and it looks like very difficult to deal with for downstream distros. | 14:23 |
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| zigo | krotscheck: Does the NPM thing you're talking about is only for linting, or does it also involves "gulp -b" to build a concatenated-minified-all-embedded-unique .js file, using r.js and requirejs? | 14:23 |
| krotscheck | zigo: I'm making an effort to build up the entire python infra toolchain for javascript, including things like global requirements etc. | 14:24 |
| krotscheck | I konw that the multi-version problem is one that, if solved, will make things easier on you. | 14:24 |
| krotscheck | zigo: No, it's linting only. | 14:24 |
| zigo | Ah, good thing then. | 14:24 |
| zigo | I have no problem with everyone doing all sorts of nasty things just for the gating. | 14:25 |
| zigo | I'd prefer if I could run unit tests on package build, but it's not 100% mandatory. | 14:25 |
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| zigo | krotscheck: Could you tel me more about this globa requirement for javascript thingy? | 14:25 |
| zigo | What's the plan? | 14:25 |
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| krotscheck | zigo: The CTI documentation is really more of a "Hey, if we want javascript, it needs to be tested well". For more specific howto's, I'm iterating on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236076/ | 14:26 |
| krotscheck | (Or, well, on the documents there) | 14:26 |
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| zigo | krotscheck: CTI stands for what? | 14:26 |
| krotscheck | zigo: Consistent Testing Interface | 14:27 |
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| krotscheck | zigo: Well, the overall guideline is "Do not use fuzzy versions". One of these days (bleargh todo list) I'll create the javascript-requirements project, which should create hard locks on requirement versions. Those, much like global-requirements, should be synced across projects that subscribe to it. | 14:27 |
| krotscheck | End result: One version of a library across openstack. | 14:27 |
| zigo | krotscheck: Do you think you could add a "Note:" stating that this is only for testing, and *not* for building packages, and that build should be workable for downstream distros? | 14:28 |
| krotscheck | Which is actually rather necessary, because a proper library ecosystem doesn't break when composed. | 14:28 |
| zigo | That's my only concern with this spec. | 14:28 |
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| zigo | (that it's not clear w/r to that) | 14:28 |
| krotscheck | zigo: Soooo... no, because we're already publishing to npm. _however_, we're publishing release tarballs of each project first. | 14:29 |
| krotscheck | We can't exactly special case every different project depending on whether it's in the QA program or not. | 14:29 |
| zigo | krotscheck: Publishing to NPM is orthogonal to building the package for our internal consumption, no? | 14:29 |
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| krotscheck | zigo: Depends on the target project. | 14:30 |
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| krotscheck | zigo: Consuming libraries from NPM is way simpler than consuming them from a custom-built package publishing mechanism. | 14:30 |
| krotscheck | Mind you, I won't block an npm-publish-xstatic job. | 14:31 |
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| krotscheck | Because there's downstream consumers that'll want that. | 14:31 |
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| zigo | I have no problem with "more simple for upstream authors", I'm just scared so much that at some point, I'll have to give up packaging anything JavaScript related because of the horrible ways to build them, which are insanely incompatible with the Debian policy manual. I.e: we build from source, without network access, with every libs packaged separately. | 14:32 |
| zigo | krotscheck: If you assure me that your spec is independent from this problematic, then it'd be awesome if it was explicit in that spec. | 14:33 |
| zigo | Did I express myself clearly enough? | 14:33 |
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| krotscheck | zigo: Yeah, just trying to sort things in my brain right now. | 14:34 |
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| zigo | Just a quick sentence added to the spec saying that it's unrelated, and that we strongly advise to keep the downstream distro packaging workflow in mind, for example. | 14:34 |
| krotscheck | zigo: The goal is to _eventually_ make packaging javascript things not painful for you. | 14:34 |
| krotscheck | And with that being the eventual goal, I don't think it's appropriate to modify the spec. | 14:34 |
| krotscheck | I would much rather have a discussion on how to reach that goal. | 14:35 |
| zigo | krotscheck: The thing is, I had a product manager here at Mirantis, showing me your spec as a reason why we shouldn't fix the Fuel UI packaging problems. | 14:35 |
| zigo | krotscheck: If you add the sentence I'm asking for, it helps me to let her understand that she's mistaking with the scope of your spec. | 14:35 |
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| zigo | So, I'm not saying that someone COULD mistake with the scope of your spec. I'm saying that this ALREADY happened. | 14:36 |
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| krotscheck | zigo: But she's not. | 14:36 |
| zigo | Ah... :P | 14:36 |
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| krotscheck | The scope of the spec is to make sure that if we write javascript, it's consistently tested. | 14:37 |
| krotscheck | The actual tools in use are intentionally left vague. | 14:37 |
| krotscheck | As are the processes, because we know that concerns such as yours exist. | 14:37 |
| krotscheck | And beleive me, I _want_ to make this painless for you. | 14:37 |
| krotscheck | In short, I'm trying to solve the Fuel UI packaging problem, but I'm trying to solve it for all of openstack. | 14:38 |
| krotscheck | While sticking to as many of the existing javascript tooling as possible. | 14:38 |
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| krotscheck | Thankfully, a newer version of node is actually dropping in Debian stretch | 14:39 |
| zigo | And... will be in the next LTS ! :) | 14:40 |
| krotscheck | I KNOW! | 14:40 |
| krotscheck | You have _no_ idea how happy that makes me. | 14:40 |
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| zigo | You can thanks Jonas Smedegaard and the Freedom Box project ! :) | 14:41 |
| krotscheck | zigo: For what it's worth, I think that Fuel UI's way of assembling their app is... less than optimal [/polite] | 14:42 |
| zigo | Jonas has put an enormous effort on Node. | 14:42 |
| zigo | LOL... :) | 14:42 |
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| krotscheck | zigo: I'd love to thank him directly :) | 14:43 |
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| krotscheck | Aaaanyway. | 14:44 |
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| krotscheck | zigo: So from my digging, the biggest issues I've come across with debian-builds for npm is the network access requirement, and the single-version-per-distro policy. Simplifying the latter is a matter of creating a list of global requirement versions. Fixing the former would involve teaching npm to try to find existing packages in the debian file structure, if available, yes? | 14:48 |
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| zigo | krotscheck: I'd really love if NPM could be smart enough to understand that a given libjs package already holds the needed dependency. This would solve most of my troubles indeed. | 14:49 |
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| zigo | krotscheck: In this regard, it would do like pip, CPAN, php pear, etc. | 14:49 |
| zigo | krotscheck: Would it be hard to work out? | 14:50 |
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| krotscheck | zigo: I'd have to build it myself, and the npm folks are... not easy to convince, but at least I have a working relationship with them now. | 14:52 |
| krotscheck | The biggest issue is time :/ | 14:52 |
| zigo | Ok. | 14:53 |
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| zigo | ttx: I'm removing my -1. | 14:53 |
| krotscheck | zigo: I'm doing something similar with bower right now as well, except there I'm going to start by teaching it how to resolve tarballs. | 14:53 |
| krotscheck | zigo: Thank you. Believe me, I'm working on this problem, it's just that I'm one person, and I can only do so much in a day :) | 14:53 |
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| zigo | krotscheck: I know how it feels... :P | 14:55 |
| krotscheck | zigo: Yeah, and you have... what, two more kids than I? :) | 14:55 |
| zigo | I'm "only" the maintainer for 293 Debian packages for OpenStack... | 14:56 |
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| gordc | vladikr: you understand this bug? is libvirt+ceph not possible? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1517381 | 15:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1517381 in Ceilometer "libvirt not support ceph RBD when get disk.capacity/allocation/usage" [Undecided,New] | 15:32 |
| gordc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1457440 | 15:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1457440 in Ceilometer "Compute agent virDomainGetBlockInfo error for instances with RBD backend" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:32 |
| vladikr | gordc, lemme see | 15:32 |
| gordc | vladikr: thanks dude | 15:32 |
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| mriedem | flaper87: Jokke_: have you ever noticed that gerrit/launchpad status sync on bugs/patches seems busted for glance-store? | 15:34 |
| mriedem | i assume b/c in launchpad it's glance-store but in git.o.o it's glance_store | 15:34 |
| flaper87 | mriedem: mmh, it's entirely possible. It used to be glance-store before. Lets see if I can change the name | 15:35 |
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| mriedem | there might be a mapping rule in project-config | 15:35 |
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| Jokke_ | mriedem: yep and I think you're right about the naming not being mapped. | 15:37 |
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| mriedem | i'll ask in infra | 15:41 |
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| annegentle | flaper87: now is when I fully admit I can't get to the TC blog post this week! can you take on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/next-tc-blog-post? | 20:14 |
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| mtreinish | dhellmann: qq, do you have a guide on how to add reno relnotes to a project? | 20:58 |
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| mtreinish | I was looking at the official docs and that tells me how to add a new relnote, but not the other infrastructure around using reno in a project | 20:59 |
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| mriedem | gordc: would be good to get your input on this thread being a consumer of nova notifications http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/079942.html | 22:34 |
| gordc | mriedem: cool. thanks for the headsup | 22:35 |
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