Wednesday, 2015-11-18

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TheloHi, I am facing one issue while running the tempest volume tests, would anyone know how to solve this ( http://paste.openstack.org/show/479208/ ). Many thanks07:04
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tonybttx: It's be great if you could weigh in on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24662808:19
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ttxtonyb: looking (lousy wifi permitting)08:51
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sdagueSergeyLukjanov: my first sahara patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246880/ - but I think this part was missing from your devstack plugin11:35
sdagueif you could take a look, that would be great11:35
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mriedemgordc: so with gnocchi and aodh split out of ceilometer, what does ceilometer do now?20:12
mriedemhttp://www.fasthorseinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/what-exactly-would-you-say-you-do-here.jpg20:12
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gordcmriedem: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Telemetry#Ceilometer20:14
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gordcmriedem: very simply: 'collect data'20:14
mriedemso ceilometer has an API and consumes/uses gnocchi and aodh to fulfill that API20:15
gordcmriedem: we realised after survey responses that users are using ceilometer data for everything: monitoring, auditing, autoscaling, reports, etc...20:15
gordcwe can't build enough different to handle every single use case so we're hoping other projects can take ceilometer data and present views to meetin specific use cases20:16
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mriedembut does the data come into ceilometer or into these other projects, like aodh?20:17
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mriedemand then gets aggregated to ceilometer?20:17
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gordcmriedem: the existing ceilometer api is effectively in maintenance mode (from meter pov)... there really is no way to keep the existing api and present data efficiently as the api models are too verbose.20:18
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mriedemso are people supposed to move off ceilometer?20:18
gordcmriedem: right, so ceilometer event data gets fed into aodh and you can build 'real-time' alarms on them.20:19
gordcmriedem: or we take ceilometer meter data and push it into gnocchi to provide an aggregated statistical view of data. maybe something you would use for sparklines.20:19
mriedemi'm confused, aodh uses ceilometer or the other way around?>20:19
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gordcmriedem: aodh and gnocchi use ceilometer data. think of ceilometer as producer, and gnocchi/aodh as consumers (using ceilometer data for different use csaes)20:20
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mriedemis ceilometer optional there?20:21
gordcfor gnocchi, yes, it's optional.20:21
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gordcfor aodh, it only understands data from ceilometer (or in that data model)20:22
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mriedemwhich is the thing that listens for nova notifications?20:22
gordcceilometer, it has a notification agent which grabs all the notifications from services and (attempts) to normalise it.20:23
mriedemso where does gnocchi get instance resource data like in here http://docs.openstack.org/developer/gnocchi/rest.html#resources ?20:24
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gordcmriedem: we haven't found a way to dynamically create those resource types yet so we've been manually adding them20:25
gordcmriedem: it's something on our roadmap. i think cloudkitty team gave a potential solution.20:25
mriedemcloudkitty20:26
mriedemwtf20:26
gordclol20:26
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mriedemi've seen the -dev ML things on cloudkitty i think, but just ignore those because 'random big tent project'20:26
mriedemisn't cloudkitty doing what stacktach does?20:27
gordci feel like i should refrain on commenting on big tent.20:27
gordcmriedem: it's a rating-billing service20:27
gordcmriedem: not sure what stacktach does after they moved dev inhouse.20:28
clarkbwait dev moved?20:28
clarkbwe changed their acls upstream so they could upstream...20:28
gordcclarkb: this is probably not current information. so don't quote me.20:29
mriedemnot very active but it's upstream https://github.com/openstack/stacktach20:29
gordcclarkb: it's based on initial stacktach+ceilo integration work years ago which stopped because upstream wasn't fast enough20:29
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gordci do believe it's worked on still... i was approached at vancouver summit20:30
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mriedemgordc: ok, thanks for the time, i don't really have an end goal here, just education20:36
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gordcmriedem: cool cool. hope it made sense, if not, i'll add stuff to docs.20:38
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mriedemi woudn't say i understand any of it20:39
mriedembut docs probably aren't going to help me :)20:39
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mriedemi'd really need like a dumbed down set of slides or something talking about what each project is, use cases it handles, and relationships to each other20:40
mriedembut that's not something i actually *need*20:40
gordcmriedem: :) drawings? my mspaint skills are fantastic20:40
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mriedemfinger puppets20:41
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gordccan't. mriedem: my knitting skills are weak.20:41
mriedemsock puppets are pretty simple20:41
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mriedemsock + sharpie = youtube video to explain the openstack telemetry program20:42
* gordc looks at laundry...20:42
mriedem'i'm ceilometer and i eat data, nom nom nom...'20:42
mriedemetc20:42
gordci'm going to coin flip how lazy i am to do laundry20:42
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gordcmriedem: 'i'm ceilometer and i eat data, nom nom nom...' <- makes sense.20:43
gordc'then i digest and s*** out two types of...'20:43
mriedemyeah, that was exactly my next point20:43
mriedem'i poop out x and then y consumes it, hi y! introduce yourself!'20:44
mriedem<move to next puppet>20:44
mriedemkind of like a human centipede spinoff20:44
gordcHahaha! i was just going to type that20:44
mriedemthis could tottally be a keynote20:44
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gordcit's something you definitely lead with... gets the crowd thinking.20:46
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mriedemJokke_: i'll trade you one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246714/20:51
mriedemnot stable, but an easy fix20:51
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Jokke_mriedem: by the phase we're touching that driver I assume it's safe to nominate it to Liberty ;)20:55
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mriedemi can tag the bug20:56
mriedemi just noticed it in the vmware ci in nova last night20:56
Jokke_cool20:56
mriedemJokke_: apparently glance-store is still on a liberty dev series https://launchpad.net/glance-store20:57
Jokke_just wondering oh20:57
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Jokke_flaper87: ^^ !20:57
Jokke_he is afk atm but let's give him highlight20:57
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Jokke_I'm good with that, thanks21:06
mriedemi know that if not no_response_body is confusing, as a double negative21:06
Jokke_yeah21:06
mriedemi guess i could have done response_body=True21:06
mriedemer kwargs.get('response_body', True)21:07
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Jokke_I'm fine how it is, just wanted to make sure I undertood the default behavior correctly21:12
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Jokke_as in making sure that double negative wasn't logic fault21:13
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