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| ajayaa | Hi guys. I am trying to run tempest tests against just glance. I get problems in setUpClass itself for all the tests I am trying to run. I think all the conf parameters are right because I can run identity tests. Any idea on what is going wrong. | 09:56 |
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| ajayaa | got it working. There is conf parameter called lock_path which needs to be set. | 10:33 |
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| ajayaa | in etc/tempest.conf. It would be nice to know what that variable is and how it is used. | 10:33 |
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| kashyap | That's true, 23:45 isn't all that late | 13:27 |
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| morganfainberg | mordred: hey | 17:48 |
| morganfainberg | mordred, hopefully i have lots of answers | 17:49 |
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| mordred | morganfainberg: sooooooooo | 17:57 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: I started working on ansible keystone modules this morning | 17:57 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: before we get started ... | 17:57 |
| morganfainberg | mordred, and it all sucks to deploy? :P | 17:58 |
| * mordred smacks morganfainberg hard for the fact that projects are called tenants in the v2 part of keystoneclient | 17:58 | |
| morganfainberg | hey! in v2 keystone they're called tenants... :P | 17:58 |
| mordred | as a user, I do not care | 17:58 |
| * morganfainberg feels the wet cat is missing. | 17:58 | |
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| mordred | return getattr( | 17:59 |
| mordred | self.keystone_client, 'projects', self.keystone_client.tenants) | 17:59 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: I had to write that ^^ | 17:59 |
| mordred | that's _ridiculous_ | 17:59 |
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| mordred | ok. I've moved on | 18:00 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: check me on some things | 18:00 |
| morganfainberg | we could probably provide a aliased interface, but we can't rename it or we'd break people who already use it. | 18:00 |
| morganfainberg | anyway, sure. | 18:00 |
| mordred | alias would be very nice | 18:00 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: in v3 world - it is a not-insane thing to think that a cloud consumer who is not an admin of the cloud or a deployer of the cloud | 18:00 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: could be a domain admin and therefore might want to create users, projects and roles, yes? | 18:01 |
| morganfainberg | correct. | 18:01 |
| mordred | awesome. | 18:01 |
| mordred | but a cloud admin creates domains | 18:01 |
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| mordred | and a cloud admin manages services and endpoints | 18:01 |
| morganfainberg | also correct (until we get to Hierarchical stuff, but that is *very new* and not fully suppoerted in ksc) | 18:01 |
| morganfainberg | also correct. cloud admin is endpoints and services [aka catalog] | 18:02 |
| mordred | great. | 18:02 |
| mordred | does hierarchical just add thigns, or does it change anything from above/ | 18:02 |
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| mordred | like, I guess hierarchical would mean a consumer might createa domain? | 18:02 |
| morganfainberg | it means a domain admin in theory could create another domain | 18:02 |
| mordred | gotcha | 18:02 |
| mordred | and that is, in fact, coming/ | 18:02 |
| mordred | ? | 18:03 |
| morganfainberg | that is. but isnt in keystoneclient yet | 18:03 |
| morganfainberg | the code in keystoen is still being worked on | 18:03 |
| mordred | oh. I'm going to hate you here ... | 18:03 |
| mordred | naming collision | 18:03 |
| mordred | because if a user can do this, I'll want it to be called os_domain | 18:03 |
| mordred | but guess what else that might map to ... | 18:03 |
| morganfainberg | dns? | 18:04 |
| clarkb | designate | 18:04 |
| mordred | yah man | 18:04 |
| clarkb | I think mordred may be seeing why I was really confused about domains now :) | 18:04 |
| morganfainberg | honestly i tried to kill the domain construct back in ... Portland? but got shot down because it would be API incompatible | 18:04 |
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| * morganfainberg wanted to use KRB5 terminology, "realm" if we needed it | 18:05 | |
| mordred | morganfainberg: would be api incompatible with _What_? | 18:05 |
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| mordred | we changed project and tenant twice | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | the stable REST api | 18:05 |
| mordred | realm would make more sense | 18:05 |
| mordred | bah | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | we changed it between V2 and V3 | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | we'd need v4 | 18:05 |
| * mordred cries | 18:05 | |
| mordred | real would have been a mUCH better choice | 18:05 |
| mordred | realm | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | and.. uh.. i think i'd want to make someone else PTL to try and pitch v4 right now, since V3 is barely adopted | 18:06 |
| mordred | right. that's why I said "with what" | 18:06 |
| morganfainberg | same issue with trying to say "project was a bad name, can we go back to tenant" | 18:06 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: at this point _I_ will kill you dead if you rename project/tenant again | 18:06 |
| mordred | not because it's the wrong choice | 18:06 |
| mordred | just because of all of the code I'd have to change | 18:06 |
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| morganfainberg | because you're using project and we shouldn't make user's lives bad. | 18:07 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: what if you just _Add_ realm as an alias | 18:07 |
| mordred | and change all the docs to say realm | 18:07 |
| mordred | but let anyone still using domain say domain | 18:07 |
| mordred | :) | 18:07 |
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| mtreinish | it'll always be tenant to me... | 18:07 |
| morganfainberg | mordred, well alot of data structures would be weird. | 18:07 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: yeah - don't listen to me | 18:07 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: just fyi - the new ansible modules are 100% project | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | mordred, seriously if i could have killed domains or renamed them to realm i would. | 18:08 |
| mordred | there is no mention of tenant anywhere in them | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | mordred, please make them say project...so when we kill (please let us kill v2 sometime) less confusion on which / what means what | 18:08 |
| mordred | yah | 18:08 |
| mordred | that's what I'm doing | 18:08 |
| mordred | ok - last question for now: | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | 100% on board with that | 18:08 |
| mordred | self._keystone_client = keystone_client.Client( | 18:08 |
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| mordred | session=self.keystone_session, | 18:08 |
| mordred | cert=self.cert) | 18:08 |
| mordred | is that a reasonable way to construct a keystone client object given a pre-existing session? | 18:09 |
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| morganfainberg | that looks like it | 18:09 |
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| morganfainberg | i always reference: http://www.jamielennox.net/blog/2014/09/15/how-to-use-keystoneclient-sessions/ as my canonical source of "how to use sessions" | 18:09 |
| mordred | DiscoveryFailure: Not enough information to determine URL. Provide either auth_url or endpoint | 18:10 |
| morganfainberg | keystone = keystone_v3.Client(session=session) | 18:10 |
| mordred | but I don't know that | 18:10 |
| morganfainberg | oh you're using the top level client. | 18:10 |
| morganfainberg | aha uhm. | 18:10 |
| mordred | yes. because I don't know version | 18:10 |
| morganfainberg | this is the chicken-egg issue | 18:10 |
| mordred | so I think I have to get the auth plugin from the session | 18:10 |
| mordred | and use that, yeah? | 18:10 |
| morganfainberg | sec. let me find it. | 18:10 |
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| morganfainberg | mordred, i think you do. | 18:11 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: so self.keystone_session.auth.Client(session=session) ? | 18:12 |
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| mordred | nope. that's not it | 18:13 |
| morganfainberg | i'm looking for the discovery example | 18:13 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: you didn't think you were going to have this much fun this morning did you? | 18:13 |
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| morganfainberg | pre-coffee nope! :) | 18:13 |
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| morganfainberg | hm. | 18:14 |
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| morganfainberg | mordred, you might need to add an auth_url to the client.Client() call | 18:16 |
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| morganfainberg | unless you've already authenticated, then you should have the service catalog. | 18:17 |
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| mordred | morganfainberg: and there's a way to get one of those from the session, right? | 18:17 |
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| mordred | morganfainberg: remember, all of my logic aroudn this is aroudn getting a session from any of the auth plugin types that available, so I don't really have context to know much of anything here other than the session, or what I can pull from the session | 18:18 |
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| mordred | morganfainberg: do I need to ask the session for the identity service url/ | 18:18 |
| mordred | ? | 18:18 |
| morganfainberg | right. i am sadly not seeing a way to ask the session for an auth_url. | 18:18 |
| morganfainberg | it looks like that isn't embeded in the session [which feels weird to me] | 18:19 |
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| morganfainberg | it might be whats in the auth_plugin. but i'm not seeing that either directly | 18:19 |
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| morganfainberg | this is also apriori knowledge, you need an auth_url to know who you've talked to to get the catalog. | 18:20 |
| mordred | apparently I don't though | 18:20 |
| mordred | because you told me that if IW as authing with some other auth plugin | 18:20 |
| mordred | auth_url may not be one of the config values | 18:20 |
| mordred | like x509 I think? | 18:20 |
| morganfainberg | right. | 18:20 |
| morganfainberg | so, jamie did this adapter construct, and i *think* that is what you're looking for. give me a couple more moments i'm chasing what discover actually does | 18:21 |
| mordred | aha! | 18:21 |
| mordred | pastebomb: | 18:21 |
| mordred | endpoint = self.get_endpoint( | 18:21 |
| mordred | service_type=self.get_service_type('identity')) | 18:21 |
| mordred | self._keystone_client = keystone_client.Client( | 18:21 |
| mordred | session=self.keystone_session, | 18:21 |
| mordred | endpoint=endpoint, | 18:22 |
| mordred | cert=self.cert) | 18:22 |
| mordred | that works | 18:22 |
| morganfainberg | ah there ya go | 18:22 |
| morganfainberg | wow. | 18:22 |
| morganfainberg | ugly | 18:22 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: I'd like to suggest that perhaps the user experiene here could be better | 18:22 |
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| morganfainberg | yes. | 18:22 |
| morganfainberg | it could def. be better | 18:22 |
| mordred | but I'll leave that as an exercise for later :) | 18:22 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: I'll ping you on the patch I'm about to put up | 18:22 |
| morganfainberg | sounds good. | 18:22 |
| morganfainberg | also highly recommend looping jamielennox in | 18:23 |
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| morganfainberg | but you wont get feedback till sunday probably | 18:23 |
| morganfainberg | he's in that land of dropbears and kangaroos. | 18:23 |
| Akshik | using ubuntu 12.04 trying to integrate openstack keystone with shibboleth | 18:23 |
| Akshik | when i restarted shibd now stuck with error "2015-02-27 22:36:38 CRIT Shibboleth.Application : no MetadataProvider available, configuration is probably unusable", not sure if im missing something | 18:23 |
| Akshik | pls. guide me | 18:23 |
| morganfainberg | Akshik, i recommend jumping over to #openstack-keystone | 18:25 |
| morganfainberg | Akshik, there are more people there who can help you than here in this case | 18:26 |
| Akshik | morganfainberg, thanks, i did have asked the same in there too | 18:26 |
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| mordred | morganfainberg: oh! there's an #openstack-keystone? | 18:27 |
| mordred | I could have been bothering people in there this whole time ... | 18:27 |
| dtroyer | mordred: fwiw, assuming password auth type, if you use keystoneclient.auth.identity.generic.password.Password as the plugin it does the v2/v3 discovery for you | 18:27 |
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| morganfainberg | mordred, haha yes. there is we moved cause we got told we were too loud for -dev | 18:27 |
| morganfainberg | about a year ago | 18:27 |
| mordred | dtroyer: yah - but my code is generic and does not assume an auth type :( | 18:28 |
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| morganfainberg | dtroyer, ^^ i type slow pre-coffee and mordred as been awake longer than i have. i was typing that. | 18:28 |
| dtroyer | ok…hang on | 18:28 |
| mordred | dtroyer: I'm trying to make the fine folks in keystone do all of the logic for me | 18:28 |
| mordred | dtroyer: I got it - the above thing works | 18:28 |
| dtroyer | ok, I was in the wrong place in the flow there… | 18:30 |
| dtroyer | you're building a session + auth, and handing that to the varios clients, right? | 18:30 |
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| mordred | dtroyer: yuppers | 18:31 |
| mordred | dtroyer: for some reason I assumed it would be easier with the keystone client | 18:32 |
| mordred | silly me :) | 18:32 |
| morganfainberg | dtroyer, this feels like the adapter thing. | 18:32 |
| mordred | dtroyer, jamielennox: fwiw: https://review.openstack.org/159941 | 18:32 |
| morganfainberg | dtroyer, would fit the bill. | 18:32 |
| mordred | is the patch I just added to get some basic things going here | 18:32 |
| dtroyer | nope, it's just like the others. took me a while to 'discover' that obvious bit, made life much weasier after | 18:32 |
| mordred | dtroyer: \o/ | 18:33 |
| dtroyer | I may be behind the world a bit, jamielennox moves faster than I can in osc | 18:33 |
| annegentle | harlowja_away: aww you're away. Take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/doc8/+bug/1426503 when you get a chance | 18:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1426503 in doc8 "Doc8 rejecting a linenos attribute we need as a directive in openstackdoctools RST/Sphinx theme " [Undecided,New] | 18:33 |
| morganfainberg | dtroyer, we totally should be sloweing down on that front once we finish some of the cleanup | 18:33 |
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| morganfainberg | dtroyer, in fact i think we are slowing down some. there is clearly some "make the ux better" stuff to still be done | 18:33 |
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| mriedem | ihrachyshka: russell: vishy: superdan: good backport for a related security fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159705/ | 19:05 |
| mriedem | russellb: ^ | 19:05 |
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| elarson | are there any folks here who have used the JSON API with paste.openstack.org? | 20:48 |
| elarson | I'm trying to create a new paste but I get an error that the 'language' is an invalid keyword arg | 20:49 |
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| elarson | the docs suggest that it is a positional arg, but I'm not sure the right way to do that via JSON | 20:49 |
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| elarson | maybe {args: ['python', 'print("hello world")']} | 20:50 |
| * elarson gives that a try | 20:50 | |
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| sigmavirus24 | elarson: how'd that work? | 21:02 |
| elarson | sigmavirus24: it can take an object *or* an array | 21:02 |
| elarson | so I think it is like [foo, bar, {'filename': 'fn.foo'}] | 21:02 |
| sigmavirus24 | interesting | 21:03 |
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| flashgordon | annegentle: ping openstack-api-site is not part of the openstack group on launchpad | 21:03 |
| flashgordon | annegentle: and you are the only person that can fix that | 21:03 |
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| annegentle | flashgordon: oh how do I do that | 21:03 |
| elarson | sigmavirus24: you'll also be happy to learn this conversation will soon support pasting to paste.os.org from emacs without having to install pymacs | 21:04 |
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| elarson | sigmavirus24: you are welcome! | 21:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | elarson: I personally use vim | 21:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | =P | 21:04 |
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| elarson | sigmavirus24: right, but now that all your pasting needs will be solved, it MUST be time to switch ;) | 21:05 |
| flashgordon | annegentle: not sure, but it should be something like this https://launchpad.net/nova | 21:05 |
| flashgordon | where it is part of | 21:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | elarson: I use it for clojure usually | 21:05 |
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| sigmavirus24 | but I don't write much clojure right now | 21:05 |
| * elarson is a fan of clojure but doesn't get to write much of it | 21:06 | |
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| annegentle | flashgordon: found it, done | 21:07 |
| flashgordon | annegentle: thanks! | 21:08 |
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| flashgordon | annegentle: using membership in the openstack and oslo groups to better validate elastic-search queries | 21:08 |
| flashgordon | annegentle: and that was the last outstanding issue | 21:08 |
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| annegentle | flashgordon: nice | 21:10 |
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| jgriffith | clayg: nice post sir | 21:39 |
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| stevelle | elarson: sigmavirus24 it would seem to me that if you write large volumes of clojure you might be doing something wrong. | 21:42 |
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| elarson | sigmavirus24: syntax highlighting isn't working just yet but... http://paste.openstack.org/show/183199/ | 21:52 |
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| clayg | jgriffith: well see if anyone bites - everyone might just say - nah you get used to it | 22:01 |
| clayg | jgriffith: well if you guys start doing H302 - maybe you can just tell me vancouver if it's driving you nuts or making your day! | 22:02 |
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| jgriffith | clayg: I'm mixed on it honestly so have stayed out of it | 22:03 |
| jgriffith | clayg: but your summary covered my opinion for the most part | 22:03 |
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| jgriffith | clayg: and it was much more pragmatic than other posts I see of late | 22:04 |
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| mordred | annegentle, morganfainberg: http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide-admin/content/admin_cli_manage_projects_users.html <-- for some reason, there is a section at the bottom on nova security groups :) | 22:40 |
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| annegentle | mordred: nice bug! | 23:25 |
| annegentle | mordred: did you log it? | 23:25 |
| mordred | annegentle: nope! | 23:25 |
| mordred | annegentle: because I'm a bad person | 23:25 |
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| annegentle | mordred: yeah, geez louise | 23:27 |
| annegentle | mordred: seems like a good candidate for a Friday fix | 23:27 |
| mordred | annegentle: I might even submit a bug fix | 23:29 |
| mordred | annegentle: what repo is that? | 23:29 |
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| annegentle | mordred: meh, let me fix it, it's openstack-manuals and probably a fiddly bit with xml:id and output whining. | 23:30 |
| mordred | kk | 23:30 |
| annegentle | mordred: tell me why flake8 isn't in my py27 tox venv as a trade :) | 23:31 |
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| annegentle | mordred: oh wait you hate debugging python enviros | 23:32 |
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| mordred | annegentle: yhm.... | 23:34 |
| mordred | annegentle: I blame flashgordon | 23:34 |
| mordred | annegentle: for no reason | 23:34 |
| mordred | annegentle: but I agree that it shodl be | 23:34 |
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| flashgordon | annegentle: it actually should be | 23:35 |
| flashgordon | annegentle: link? | 23:35 |
| flashgordon | annegentle: also with hacking 0.10 we don't import any python modules so you can run it outside a full env | 23:36 |
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| annegentle | flashgordon: so I think it should be too. I'm using openstack-manuals tox.ini: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/master/tox.ini | 23:38 |
| annegentle | flashgordon: so maybe doc8 and flake8 aren't using testenv? | 23:38 |
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| elmiko | ttx: you owe a bitcoin to the tip jar for referring to sahara as savanna ;) | 23:57 |
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