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| tonyb | jgriffith: Are you around? | 00:12 |
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| jgriffith | tonyb: hey | 00:13 |
| tonyb | Sorry about derailing 156420, that wasn't my intent. | 00:13 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: ha! no worries | 00:13 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: valid points.. but somewhat unrelated IMHO | 00:14 |
| tonyb | jgriffith: So what /should/ nova be doing rather than calling the old function? | 00:14 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: so that's kinda the point I was trying to make... | 00:14 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: I don't really care what Nova does :) | 00:14 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: if somebody actually configures nova to use LVM in devstack and wants the default that's "OK" | 00:14 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: the problem I wanted to fix there was specific to Cinder | 00:15 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: In the past, we always just created a single VG for Cinder | 00:15 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: and it was *always* stack-volumes, created via that default function | 00:15 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: but back in Juno there was a bit of churn around multi-backend | 00:15 |
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| jgriffith | tonyb: where it ended up was both the default and the be_name version being used | 00:16 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: but there's no case where we use the default for Cinder any longer | 00:16 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: we set the config file up such that it uses the be_name all the time (we didn't used to do that) | 00:16 |
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| jgriffith | tonyb: the big change was going from the old format of cinder.conf to the new multi-backend version | 00:17 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: don't know if that helps at all... or does it make it worse :) | 00:17 |
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| tonyb | jgriffith: and there is 0 advantage to nova trying to share a VG like in the old stack-volumes days? | 00:17 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: honestly I don't know why that was there at all; it may be left over from before we created cinder and used to have nova-volumes for all I know | 00:18 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: and just been carried through blindly | 00:18 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: but that was what I tried to say in my comment, is that I really "don't" know if it is used or not in some case | 00:19 |
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| jgriffith | tonyb: I could certainly dig into it, but it seems completely unrelated to my change | 00:19 |
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| jgriffith | tonyb: know what I mean? | 00:19 |
| tonyb | jgriffith: Yeah I understand. | 00:19 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: I'm totally cool with signing up to look into that and removing the function if it's no longer valid... | 00:20 |
| tonyb | jgriffith: I think all Ian want's is to fix up the comment in lib/lvm which I'm happy to hack up and make that depend on your change | 00:20 |
| jgriffith | Ahhh | 00:20 |
| tonyb | jgriffith: perhaps we can touch base in Vancouver and see if the full removal is required. | 00:21 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: yeah, so that makes sense I think | 00:21 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: sure, I'd be happy to do that | 00:21 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: I honestly don't know if that comment makes any sense really | 00:21 |
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| jgriffith | I don't know what a shared volume-group between nova and cinder is all about, but I suppose there's some off case that somebody wanted so they put it in there | 00:22 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: might have some knowledge of it | 00:22 |
| jgriffith | tonyb: but yeah, I'm happy to work with you on tracking that down and consider just removing if it turns out it's a dead function | 00:22 |
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| tonyb | jgriffith: okay that sounds more or less like a plan. | 00:25 |
| dtroyer | jgriffith: the shared vg between nova and cinder is fairly recent (6mo or so?) and an attempt to keep from using up so freaking much disk space. nova wants it for ephemeral disks. I honesly haven't looked at those bits in quite a while so I am certain there is room for improvement | 00:25 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: ahhh | 00:25 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: so that seems like a reasonable strategy... except we don't use it in cinder any more :) | 00:26 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: cinder does the be_name now, AND the default/shared | 00:26 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: which defeats the purpose | 00:26 |
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| jgriffith | ie uses "more" disk space | 00:27 |
| dtroyer | right…the nova bits were not added with that in mind. thats the part I keep meaning to look at | 00:27 |
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| jgriffith | dtroyer: makes sense | 00:27 |
| tonyb | jgriffith, dtroyer: I need to pick kids up. If you decide nova needs to do something different (and it seems like it does) I'll do what needs to be done there. | 00:27 |
| dtroyer | if it isn't posible to overlap cinder and nova in a vg, then we need to make the defaults be reasonable for 'small' vms | 00:27 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: so if you want me to look at changing my patch so they share something again I can probably do that | 00:28 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: but I'm not clear on how well that's going to end up | 00:28 |
| dtroyer | that would be great. I'm eyeballs-deep in the venv stuff atm | 00:28 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: sure | 00:28 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: it won't be today but I'll look at it tonight if I can... or tomorrow AM | 00:28 |
| jgriffith | I need to figure out this rescue thing first :( | 00:29 |
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| jgriffith | jogo: speaking of which :) | 00:29 |
| jgriffith | jogo: do you know who the "rescue" point of contact should be? | 00:29 |
| jgriffith | jogo: IMO the code is somewhat "broken" | 00:30 |
| jogo | jgriffith: hmm not sure actually | 00:30 |
| jgriffith | jogo: and don't say "launchpad" :) | 00:30 |
| jgriffith | jogo: ok, I'll look in git and see who touched it last :) | 00:30 |
| jgriffith | dims_: mtreinish ^^ | 00:31 |
| jogo | jgriffith: at this point maybe just the entire team not sure if there is some one focusing on it now | 00:31 |
| jgriffith | jogo: cool | 00:31 |
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| jgriffith | jogo: I'm going to propose that if an instance has an attached volume and a rescue request is issued that it detaches the secondary volume(s) | 00:32 |
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| jgriffith | jogo: it seems to me that if you're in a situation that you want to do a rescue you probably should focus on just the boot volume, and not carry all the baggage around | 00:33 |
| dtroyer | jgriffith: (just because I'm still here) how does that work with boot-from-volume? is that still a useful case for rescue? | 00:33 |
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| jgriffith | dtroyer: so I'm looking at that now... | 00:33 |
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| jgriffith | dtroyer: fact is, I'm not sure that works currently anyway | 00:33 |
| jogo | jgriffith: so I think there was a bug/change about that not too long ago | 00:33 |
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| jgriffith | jogo: hmmm... maybe the use bdm objects change | 00:35 |
| jgriffith | looking | 00:35 |
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| jgriffith | dtroyer: also FWIW, I don't see rescue as being useful for boot-from-volume anyway | 00:36 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: well... that's not fair I guess | 00:37 |
| dtroyer | jgriffith: I do, but what I'd do is gen up a small rescue-live vm just to attach the volume anyway... | 00:37 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: it does do the steps for you | 00:37 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: yeah, that's what I was getting at | 00:37 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: it's likely easier to just boot an instance, attach and fix | 00:38 |
| dtroyer | so there is a work-around, which is why I was wondering if that was considered a direct rescue case | 00:38 |
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| mtreinish | jgriffith: I touched it last? :) | 00:38 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: yeah... well, maybe I can detect that case and handle it | 00:38 |
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| jgriffith | I'll mess with it and see what I can come up with | 00:38 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: mua hahaha | 00:38 |
| jogo | jgriffith: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1374508 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1126187 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1158942 | 00:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1374508 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Possible race between unrescue and detach" [Medium,Confirmed] | 00:39 |
| jogo | some related logs | 00:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1126187 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Detach volume rescue" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Joe Gordon (jogo) | 00:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1158942 in tempest "Volume detach fails after unrescuing a instance after trying to detach while instance in rescue state doesn't work." [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Joe Gordon (jogo) | 00:39 |
| dtroyer | jgriffith: cool…I would say only the boot volume need be attached if that helps | 00:39 |
| jogo | eep two were mine | 00:39 |
| jogo | err bugs* | 00:39 |
| jogo | all fixed | 00:39 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: it helps a TON | 00:39 |
| jogo | well the second two | 00:39 |
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| jgriffith | dtroyer: the problem is LVM gets all confused with the existing iscsi targets | 00:39 |
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| jgriffith | that get remapped from underneath it | 00:39 |
| jogo | jgriffith: does disable attach detach during rescue help things? that is supposed to be what happens | 00:40 |
| jgriffith | jogo: hmm... I didn't see that | 00:40 |
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| jogo | jgriffith: what does the failing test do again? | 00:41 |
| jogo | detach a volume from an instance in rescue state? | 00:41 |
| jgriffith | jogo: well... it doesn't fail the test | 00:41 |
| mtreinish | jogo: it creates a server, attaches a volume to it | 00:41 |
| mtreinish | then it puts the server into a rescue state | 00:41 |
| mtreinish | and tries to detatch when it's in rescue (which fails) | 00:42 |
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| mtreinish | then unwinds | 00:42 |
| jgriffith | jogo: but what happens is LVM goes out and tries to update all of it's records and checks with dm mappings | 00:42 |
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| jogo | mtreinish: what is the test name again? | 00:42 |
| jgriffith | and the mapping to the LV isn't valid, so it sits there trying to open it until it times out like 60 seconds later | 00:42 |
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| mtreinish | jogo: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest/tree/tempest/api/compute/servers/test_server_rescue_negative.py#n136 | 00:42 |
| jgriffith | tempest.api.compute.servers.test_server_rescue_negative | 00:43 |
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| jogo | jgriffith: so is the attempt to detach cause LVM to do things? | 00:43 |
| jgriffith | specifically: test_rescued_vm_detach_volume | 00:44 |
| jgriffith | which is a negative test | 00:44 |
| jogo | or is it moving a VM with attached volumes into rescue mode that breaks it? | 00:44 |
| jgriffith | jogo: it's mapped device | 00:44 |
| jgriffith | jogo: https://gist.github.com/j-griffith/e70239260d772bbe312e | 00:44 |
| jgriffith | jogo: https://gist.github.com/j-griffith/e70239260d772bbe312e#file-strace-log-L1865 | 00:45 |
| jgriffith | so what happens there is we create the instance, attach and we get a /dev/sdc mapped to the LV | 00:45 |
| jgriffith | jogo: but after the rescue, that gets bumped to /dev/sdd | 00:45 |
| jgriffith | jogo: but nobody tells Cinder/LVM about it | 00:46 |
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| jgriffith | jogo: so it continues trying to open the device at /dev/sdd which is now invalid | 00:46 |
| jogo | jgriffith: ahhh that makes sense | 00:46 |
| jgriffith | at least that's what I've put together | 00:46 |
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| jogo | how have we not spotted this earlier? | 00:46 |
| jgriffith | well... we did | 00:46 |
| jgriffith | jogo: but the problem is we had some other "hang" issues | 00:47 |
| jogo | ahh | 00:47 |
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| jgriffith | I've made a boat load of changes and got it down to just this one left | 00:47 |
| jgriffith | and in the process I added log messages to find it and log it in ERQ | 00:47 |
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| jogo | jgriffith: so I don't think we can detach all volumes before a rescue due to boot from volume | 00:47 |
| jgriffith | it's been around for months at least.... but I screwed myself by logging it | 00:47 |
| jgriffith | jogo: understood as dtroyer pointed out (although there is an easy work around) | 00:48 |
| jgriffith | jogo: I'll see if there's something I can do to make it actually go through Cinder or something | 00:48 |
| jgriffith | jogo: honestly I'm still trying to trace through exactly what's happening here | 00:49 |
| jgriffith | jogo: given the fact that it finally recovers there's got to be some way to tell LVM "hey, this stuff has changed... just move on with your life" | 00:49 |
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| jogo | jgriffith: cool | 00:56 |
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| dims_ | jgriffith: jogo: want me to peek at 156420? just reading through scroll back | 01:39 |
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| clayg | anyone use devstack know if the proccess=X set in sites-available/keystone.conf is configurable? | 02:38 |
| clayg | alternatively - how much ram do you guys normally assign to your devstack vm's? couple gigs? 8? | 02:38 |
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| dtroyer | clayg: no on the processes config, I run default configs 4Gb VMs, only a few services fit into 2Gb VMs anymore. | 03:02 |
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| dtroyer | also, I'm trying your config from https://review.openstack.org/157234 with no issues, but that Trusty VM isn't fresh. | 03:03 |
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| clayg | dtroyer: fair, it *was* fresh before I started trying to devstack it :\ | 03:05 |
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| rfolco | kashyap, around? | 12:22 |
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| kashyap | rfolco, Hi, now yes | 12:55 |
| kashyap | rfolco, What's up? | 12:55 |
| rfolco | kashyap, Morning. Was trying to rebuild fedora20 base image w/ minimal install and let nodepool to pre-cache the rpms instead of pre-caching myself. Do you use minimal install? | 12:57 |
| kashyap | rfolco, Yes, all my test servers are minimal installs | 12:57 |
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| kashyap | rfolco, Usually created with a script like this - https://github.com/kashyapc/virt-scripts/blob/master/create-guest-qcow2.bash | 12:58 |
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| kashyap | rfolco, I'm not familiar w/ nodepool internals much. If it's related to that, probably we should discuss on #openstack-infra | 12:59 |
| rfolco | kashyap, hmm could be something specific to ppc64 then... If I let nodepool to generate the image and try to run devstack, many dependencies are not found... | 12:59 |
| kashyap | rfolco, Ah, ppc64, likely. . . | 12:59 |
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| rfolco | I've been using a pre-cached image so far, but when something breaks like the perl 5.18.4 vs 5.18.2 on updates repo, my image can't be used/generated | 13:01 |
| rfolco | kashyap, thanks for confirming, will try to figure that out | 13:01 |
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| kashyap | rfolco, Sure. You work with OpenStack (upstream) infra? | 13:01 |
| rfolco | kashyap, yes, using default services from infra with config overrides | 13:02 |
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| kashyap | rfolco, Also, for minimal installs, | 13:03 |
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| kashyap | Maybe let's move it to #openstack-infra | 13:03 |
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| rfolco | kashyap, yup | 13:04 |
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| dtroyer | dstufft: Q on pip+venv+git: I'm teaching DevStack how to put projects into virtual envs, using venv/bin/pip install -e setup.py. But a 'pip freeze' at the system level shows the '-e git://…' path that was installed into the venv. It all seems to work fine, but that surprised me a bit. Is this a pip or virtualenv bug? Or should I go about my business and have a nice day? | 16:59 |
| dstufft | dtroyer: are you using --with-site-packages? | 17:00 |
| dtroyer | no | 17:00 |
| dstufft | what version of venv? | 17:01 |
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| dtroyer | virtualenv==1.11.4, looks like the trusty package | 17:01 |
| dtroyer | ah, I just saw a devstack review to pull in pypi virtualenv this morning, I should try that | 17:02 |
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| dstufft | dtroyer: that's not expected fwiw and sounds like a bug somewhere. I'm not sure where though, if the newer virtualenv doesn't fix it if you can give mre repro steps or a system where it's happened I can ssh into I can take a look | 17:03 |
| dtroyer | sure, will do. thanks | 17:04 |
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| kkoski | In cinder, how do I use the cinder.db.sqlalchemy.models.register_models function? | 18:51 |
| kkoski | When I try importing it directly and running it, I get "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_dialect'" | 18:52 |
| kkoski | I'm guessing that the CONF.database.connection is getting properly populated | 18:52 |
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| russellb | ttx: do you know if openstack-dev requires subscription to post? | 19:30 |
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| mtreinish | morganfainberg: I feel like I should shamelessly plug the thing I added to debtcollector the other day: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/debtcollector/api.html#module-debtcollector.removals | 19:48 |
| mtreinish | given your ml post | 19:48 |
| morganfainberg | mtreinish, :) | 19:48 |
| morganfainberg | sure | 19:48 |
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| morganfainberg | how we communicate deprecation in the keystone-all script can change. | 19:48 |
| morganfainberg | less worried about that. | 19:49 |
| mtreinish | morganfainberg: yeah that just wraps py warnings your patch looks like it just logs it as critical | 19:49 |
| mtreinish | morganfainberg: sure the impl doesn't really matter :) | 19:50 |
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| mtreinish | it's about getting people off of it | 19:50 |
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| morganfainberg | mtreinish, yeah this does need to log since this is a cli-command, but yep will wrap it (feel free to no-score say heyyyyy debtcollector on the review if you want) | 19:53 |
| mtreinish | morganfainberg: sure | 19:54 |
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| morganfainberg | but even if you don't i'll try and remember | 19:54 |
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| jproulx | Akshik: does that file exist? as I recall Ubuntu doesn't ship with it (at least not in the right place) | 21:06 |
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| jproulx | Akshik curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/openstack/keystone/stable/icehouse/httpd/keystone.py > /var/www/cgi-bin/keystone/keystone.py then make 'main' and 'admin' symlinks to it in the same directory (so say my notes anyway, there may be a better more Ubuntuy answer) | 21:10 |
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| Akshik_ | jproulx, initially the file dose not exist, i copied it manually, currently the mentioned file exist | 21:13 |
| jproulx | Akshik_ unfortunately that's all i've got, maybe double check ownership and permission & that you copied the right file, but can't think of anything special | 21:16 |
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| jgriffith | jogo: Two options for you regarding rescue and attached volumes | 21:24 |
| jogo | jgriffith: ping me later. cells just broke the world | 21:25 |
| jogo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1423695 | 21:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1423695 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "gate-devstack-dsvm-cells fails attaching volume" [Undecided,New] | 21:25 |
| jgriffith | jogo: ahh... sure | 21:25 |
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| Akshik | jproulx, what ownership should it be in, its in root. i even gave 777 for all 3 files | 21:35 |
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| jproulx | Akshik mine is root:root 664 | 21:36 |
| jproulx | (currently running juno on 14.04, but I don't think I've changed it since 12.04) | 21:37 |
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| jproulx | oh Akshik this should probably be on #openstack not #openstack-dev BTW, just noticed which window this was... | 21:39 |
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| Akshik | jproulx, thanks, i have asked the same in #openstack too | 21:40 |
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| Akshik | jproulx, just one query is federation supported in icehouse, remember some forum mentioning its not, but i see them in releasenotes of icehouse | 21:42 |
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| stevemar | Akshik, it's probably mareked as experimental in icehouse | 21:43 |
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| Akshik | stevemar, thanks | 21:46 |
| stevemar | Akshik, did you try proceeding without the WSGIAliasMatch line in your apache config? | 21:47 |
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| Akshik | stevemar, no, let me try removing it and update you | 21:51 |
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| mhroncok | stevebaker: ping | 22:54 |
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| stevebaker | mhroncok: hi | 22:55 |
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| mhroncok | hi | 22:55 |
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| stevebaker | are you ok with using six? | 22:55 |
| mhroncok | stevebaker: I wanted to reply to your comments in code, but it only says (Draft), how do I confirm it? | 22:55 |
| hogepodge | ttx: what do we need to do for tc approval on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155738/ | 22:56 |
| mhroncok | stevebaker: I like six and use it a lot,l but I think here it's overkill | 22:56 |
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| stevebaker | mhroncok: go back to the top of the review, Add Comment, Publish Comments | 22:56 |
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| mhroncok | stevebaker: oh, I wouldn't find that | 22:57 |
| mhroncok | thanks | 22:57 |
| stevebaker | yeah, its not obvious the first time | 22:58 |
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| stevebaker | six might be overkill, but we use it everywhere so we may as well use it here | 22:58 |
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| ryansb | +1 to that | 22:58 |
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| ryansb | no reason not to use it | 22:58 |
| mhroncok | ok, but I'd rather not use six.iteritems | 22:59 |
| anteaya | hogepodge: oh for tc approval, it needs airtime at a tc meeting, probably the next one and 7 +1's without a -1 | 22:59 |
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| stevebaker | mhroncok: ok, I don't feel strongly about that | 22:59 |
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| mhroncok | stevebaker: what about the cmp_to_key, do we need to support 2.6? | 23:01 |
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| stevebaker | mhroncok: good point, since it is a agent then it could be installed on all manner of distros/versions, so 2.6 support would still be desirable | 23:02 |
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| mhroncok | stevebaker: updated | 23:09 |
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| stevebaker | mhroncok: ok, thanks | 23:12 |
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| dtroyer | dstufft: followup on the pip+venv+git thing…it appears to be an Ubuntu deal as it doesn't occur on a 'Really, I'm a virgin trusty VM and never had DevStack run on me before'. I'm thinking that the install into /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages has something to do with it. In any case, it's not a problem for me. Thanks | 23:25 |
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| mhroncok | stevebaker: Ok, I'll go sleep and will continue tmrw, thnaks for your help and guidance | 23:36 |
| stevebaker | mhroncok: ok, thanks | 23:36 |
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