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| prometheanfire | I have a change ready to go through and it looks like it's failing because the change requires /sys and jenkins doesn't mount that. | 03:59 |
| prometheanfire | http://logs.openstack.org/28/154128/6/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-pg/bf01ca8/logs/df.txt.gz | 04:00 |
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| prometheanfire | do I need to make a change request to the testing infra? | 04:00 |
| clarkb | /sys should be available | 04:00 |
| prometheanfire | it wasn't in that test at least | 04:00 |
| prometheanfire | well, that was a bad example | 04:01 |
| clarkb | does it show up in a df? | 04:01 |
| prometheanfire | /sys doesn't show up in df | 04:01 |
| prometheanfire | I looked through other logs and didn't see it either though | 04:01 |
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| clarkb | I just checked a node I had held from earlier /sys is there | 04:01 |
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| prometheanfire | well, I'm trying to figure out why jenkins is failing me and am not finding anything conclusive | 04:02 |
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| clarkb | pretty sure it isn't related to /sys :) | 04:02 |
| prometheanfire | doesn't help :( | 04:03 |
| clarkb | prometheanfire: http://logs.openstack.org/28/154128/6/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-pg/bf01ca8/logs/screen-q-agt.txt.gz?level=INFO there are a ton of errors there | 04:04 |
| clarkb | and ssh to the VM is what failed | 04:04 |
| clarkb | (though I have no idea if that is just noise) | 04:04 |
| prometheanfire | I feel like it is | 04:04 |
| prometheanfire | my change was do neutron interface enumeration | 04:04 |
| prometheanfire | if it failed it would fail big | 04:05 |
| prometheanfire | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154128/ if curious | 04:05 |
| prometheanfire | helped me find a kernel bug too :D | 04:05 |
| prometheanfire | the traceback in that file calls ovs, not IP at that | 04:06 |
| prometheanfire | I guess I could tell jenkins to test again | 04:07 |
| * prometheanfire shrugs | 04:07 | |
| clarkb | http://logs.openstack.org/28/154128/6/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-pg/bf01ca8/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz?level=INFO has a bunch of warnings about devices not being in databases | 04:07 |
| clarkb | those seem to map to warnings in the agent log | 04:08 |
| prometheanfire | true | 04:09 |
| clarkb | does /sys/class/net account for namespaces? the old code appears to | 04:10 |
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| prometheanfire | yes, it should | 04:11 |
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| prometheanfire | yep, confirmed | 04:12 |
| clarkb | from the perspective of the listing process? | 04:13 |
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| prometheanfire | I created a namespace and did a ip netns exec in the namespace to list the dir | 04:14 |
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| clarkb | thats what the old code did | 04:14 |
| clarkb | it isn't what the new code does according to my reading of it | 04:14 |
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| clarkb | the new code just lists the dir which should put it in the network namespace of the listing process | 04:15 |
| clarkb | which may not be the same | 04:15 |
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| prometheanfire | ok, so it's still listing the outer dir | 04:16 |
| prometheanfire | or outer namespace that is | 04:16 |
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| clarkb | its listing the sysfs dir for the namespace of the calling process which since this is devstack should just be the root namespace | 04:16 |
| prometheanfire | right | 04:17 |
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| prometheanfire | clarkb: thanks for the help | 05:16 |
| prometheanfire | clarkb: wanna see something horibly, wonderfully, hackish? https://gist.github.com/ea465721c767e53ee328 | 05:16 |
| prometheanfire | that's on top of my patch, testing through tox now, just in case | 05:16 |
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| jogo | viktors|afk: pong | 18:47 |
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| sdague | dhellmann / ttx: so we've got jogo and dtroyer as +1 on removing openstackclient from g-r - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155991/ | 18:59 |
| jogo | sdague: well how isolated will it be venv wise? its own or with *clients | 19:00 |
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| jogo | sdague: either way I am fine with removing it from there since we never used it from g-r anyway | 19:01 |
| sdague | jogo: yeh, I think it pulls those in as deps, so it will have clients wherever it needs them | 19:02 |
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| jogo | sdague: right, but if we first install novaclient then OSC | 19:02 |
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| sdague | ok, in devstack we always install osc first | 19:02 |
| jogo | and those have non overlapping deps due to version limits somewhere | 19:02 |
| sdague | you kind of have to for other reasons | 19:03 |
| sdague | I'm not saying there won't be other issues that get exposed, just that we should tackle them when they show up | 19:03 |
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| sdague | but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155991/ doesn't really help us solve any issues | 19:03 |
| jogo | sdague: yeah, agreed | 19:03 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: +2 | 19:11 |
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| roaet | dhellmann: ping, maybe? hopefully? :D | 19:46 |
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| dhellmann | roaet: here | 19:46 |
| roaet | dhellmann: thank the gods | 19:47 |
| dhellmann | roaet: wow, what's up? :-) | 19:47 |
| roaet | dhellmann: sorry to bother you about something so silly, but I'm lost when it comes to the stevedore documentation on entrypoints. Do you have any place in the code I can look at which would clarify how I could replace typical entrypoint code (that returns modules) with stevedore functions? | 19:47 |
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| dhellmann | roaet: what sort of pattern do you have now? are you storing a bunch of modules and using all of them, or are you picking one based on name or something? | 19:48 |
| roaet | dhellmann: I already have code that works and loads entry points, but have been instructed to convert the ep portion to stevedore, but to do so would involve enormous amounts of effort if I want to match the interfaces exactly. but I assuem that's by design | 19:49 |
| roaet | dhellmann: I can link you the current code, one moment. | 19:49 |
| dhellmann | k | 19:49 |
| roaet | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148318/12/neutronclient/common/extension.py line 52 I believe. | 19:49 |
| roaet | my eyes are failing me. so much reading | 19:49 |
| dhellmann | I see several different forms of loading modules here :-( | 19:50 |
| roaet | dhellmann: really I need to know if I should just attempt to force the square peg into the round hole, or do I need to redesign some things. | 19:50 |
| roaet | dhellmann: Aye, it was taken from the novaclient supported methods (to be consistent) | 19:50 |
| dhellmann | well, my preference would be to not keep propagating those decisions, but I guess that's up to the neutron team | 19:51 |
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| harlowja_ | i think your gonna have a harder time fitting some of the squares into the round hole (some of the concepts just aren't the same there) | 19:51 |
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| harlowja_ | *although imho someone should just convert all that to stevedore (its gonna be a lossy conversion, and one thats not backwards compat) | 19:52 |
| harlowja_ | but thats just my 2 cents :-P | 19:52 |
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| roaet | harlowja_: after the meeting we had today the neutron team will probably deprecate the client soon(ish?) so I'm not sure if it's feasible to redo it all | 19:53 |
| harlowja_ | well that solves that problem, lol | 19:53 |
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| roaet | but not soon enough that extension support can be ignored | 19:53 |
| clarkb | deprecating neutronclient? in favor of what? | 19:54 |
| harlowja_ | '_discover_via_entry_points' is the only one afaik that i think will fit round hole <-> round hole | 19:54 |
| roaet | dhellmann: Is it like harlowja_ says, just very complicated to make work? | 19:54 |
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| roaet | harlowja_: I believe that is the only part I'm trying to 'fit' | 19:54 |
| roaet | clarkb: eventually the OSC/SDK effort | 19:54 |
| harlowja_ | roaet oh, ok, if thats the only one, its probably not so bad | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | well hopefully we dont deprecate until those are ready | 19:55 |
| dhellmann | roaet: stevedore isn't going to help you with loading random files like some of this. It's meant for loading things that come from a package and have been installed properly. | 19:55 |
| dhellmann | roaet: the _discover_via_entry_points function can be rewritten using stevedore | 19:55 |
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| roaet | dhellmann: that is the only function I am to rewrite, I believe | 19:55 |
| roaet | but when it comes to doing such a thing I get lost due to all the interfaces I will need to follow. | 19:56 |
| harlowja_ | roaet 'https://github.com/openstack/stevedore/blob/master/stevedore/extension.py#L146' (if u squint that code is the same as the neutron one) so the conversion shouldn't be so bad | 19:56 |
| dhellmann | roaet: I left a comment on the patch with what I *think* you would want | 19:56 |
| roaet | Not sure what a conversation of _discover_via_entry_points -> stevedore would even look like. | 19:56 |
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| roaet | harlowja_: thank you, dhellmann thank you | 19:57 |
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| harlowja_ | i'd try messing around with stevedore and get used to that | 19:57 |
| harlowja_ | it should be pretty straightfoward i think | 19:57 |
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| dhellmann | roaet: yeah, the managers replace the use of the loop to load the modules, so you instantiate one and then use all of the things it has loaded. Each manager uses different rules to decide what to load. | 19:58 |
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| roaet | Ah that's cool. I guess I was getting lost in the verbiage of plugin -> module, etc. | 19:59 |
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| harlowja_ | roaet if u can avoid having '_discover_via_python_path' and such that'd imho save everyone later pain | 20:00 |
| harlowja_ | and/or _discover_via_contrib_path | 20:00 |
| harlowja_ | both of those are sorta evilish | 20:00 |
| harlowja_ | those kind of additions, once added, are really hard to get rid of | 20:00 |
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| harlowja_ | *because people start to depend on that non-standard magic | 20:00 |
| harlowja_ | *and this kills many kitties | 20:01 |
| roaet | harlowja_: there is some precedence to keep them at the moment but I will definitely fight to standardize all the things when we work on OSC/SDK | 20:01 |
| harlowja_ | ok, up to u | 20:01 |
| roaet | All this extension work is just to fill the gaps between now and deprecation day | 20:01 |
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| harlowja_ | ok dokie | 20:02 |
| roaet | thanks again harlowja_ dhellmann | 20:02 |
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| roaet | dhellmann, harlowja_: now that i'm squinting at the extension.py code it does look a lot more sane. thanks for pointing it out. | 20:05 |
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| harlowja_ | :) | 20:05 |
| harlowja_ | all dhellmann fault for making it more sane :-P | 20:06 |
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| kevinbenton | anteaya: hey, who should i contact about eliminating a duplicate account on openstack.org? | 20:52 |
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| clarkb | kevinbenton: reed is a good person. though I seem to recall you just end your membership on the duplicate account and that effectively deletes the account | 20:53 |
| clarkb | kevinbenton: let me see if I can dig that back up | 20:53 |
| kevinbenton | clarkb: so i was afraid of doing that because i need a presentation submission to be moved over to my main account | 20:53 |
| kevinbenton | clarkb: one of my co-workers submitted one an listed me as a co-author, but didn't get my main account associated with it | 20:53 |
| clarkb | kevinbenton: for that you likely want to send mail to the contact address | 20:54 |
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| anteaya | kevinbenton: looks like clarkb has you sorted, yes I support sending an email with the links to the two accounts, so that your speaker account doesn't get deleted without being linked to the other one | 20:55 |
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| kevinbenton | clarkb: right, the info@openstack.org one? | 20:57 |
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| clarkb | let me ask which addr is best | 20:58 |
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| clarkb | kevinbenton: I am told they have received your message and are working it. so whatever addr you used seems to have been fine | 21:22 |
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| kevinbenton | clarkb: ok. i sent one to info@openstack.org last night | 21:30 |
| kevinbenton | clarkb: thx for your help | 21:30 |
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