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| ygk | hi all | 06:57 |
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| ygk | i want to learn openstack development | 06:57 |
| ygk | can anyone help where to start ? | 06:57 |
| ygk | btw, i am learning python too | 06:57 |
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| eliqiao | ygk: review.openstack.org is a good start | 07:00 |
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| dheeraj-gupta-4 | Hi, just wanted to point to a bug-fix that has been up for review for some time. Please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/113558 . Thanks | 07:47 |
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| ttx | lifeless: so... any preference wrt: design summit ? | 08:21 |
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| lifeless | ttx: yes, on irc we leant to full day meetup, am waiting for folk on the list to have a chance to comment | 08:22 |
| ttx | lifeless: you would still have usage for a couple of "scheduled" topics, right | 08:23 |
| ttx | or just full-day meetup? | 08:23 |
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| ekarlso | boris-42: ! :) | 08:58 |
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| viktors | ttx: hi! Just want to remind you about patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123137/ | 12:15 |
| ttx | viktors: approved | 12:17 |
| viktors | ttx: thanks! | 12:17 |
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| ttx | sdague: looks like we forgot to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121509/ during meeting yesterday | 13:19 |
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| vkmc | sdague, afazekas, dkranz if you have a moment later, could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123252/? | 13:43 |
| sdague | ttx: yeh, that's probably a +2 | 13:45 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: is processutils still in the incubator | 15:11 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: no, that's in oslo.concurrency now | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | sdague: if you need a backport, it's still in stable/juno | 15:20 |
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| sdague | yeh, well the debug message that prints the exit code completely separately is really suboptimal, especially when commands take 2 minutes to execute and so are thousands of lines apart :) | 15:21 |
| sdague | let me see about oslo fixes here | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | sdague: yeah, that does sound like something we want to improve | 15:23 |
| sdague | yeh, that obscured one of the gate bugs | 15:23 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: here is a stab 1st draft - https://review.openstack.org/123762 | 15:34 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: that looks good. We could probably do some work on that return code to report if it was killed with a signal or exited with an error, but this is better than what we have now | 15:36 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: so oslo.concurrency looks pretty out of date with incubator here | 15:44 |
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| sdague | is that expected? | 15:44 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: we extracted that code right from the incubator, so no. | 15:45 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/processutils.py#L176-L189 seems to not be in the lib | 15:47 |
| sdague | I don't know if it's important, but it is different | 15:47 |
| dhellmann | sdague: that was deemed an invalid way to fix the bug it was trying to fix, and removed | 15:47 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: let me find the bug... | 15:48 |
| sdague | ok | 15:48 |
| sdague | but that wasn't synced back? | 15:48 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114664/ | 15:49 |
| dhellmann | sdague: it didn't land before we deleted the incubated code, no | 15:49 |
| dhellmann | sdague: it wasn't *causing* problems, it just didn't actually address the issue | 15:50 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: ok, no prob, just trying to understand the differences | 15:51 |
| dhellmann | sdague: yeah, I think we just said it was a low-priority to merge that sync | 15:51 |
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| sdague | ok, cool | 15:54 |
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| jogo | SpamapS: I like your the horse is dead | 17:24 |
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| SpamapS | jogo: cool :) | 17:28 |
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| jogo | SpamapS: I guess the whole thing shouldn't matter soon | 17:32 |
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| SpamapS | jogo: that's kind of what I think too, and meanwhile we're taxing some very important minds with something that I think has finally been established. It's not bike shedding, it is real analysis and it has benefits, but it has the same effect: people spending time doing what they do well, even though that is not what is needed. | 17:33 |
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| jogo | SpamapS: yup, I am actually pretty excited for using Zaqar down the road. having a SQS like thing can be really nice | 17:36 |
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| boris-42 | ekarlso around? | 17:37 |
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| SpamapS | jogo: me too | 17:39 |
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| flaper87 | SpamapS: jogo thanks to both of you too | 17:47 |
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| flaper87 | I'm glad we reached a point where we have enough information to code and make the service better | 17:48 |
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| jogo | flaper87: yup. to be clear, what is the general plan? | 17:50 |
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| flaper87 | jogo: there are a couple of things I think we need to evaluate based on the feedback and recent discussion. But I think it goes along the line of improving the scaling story, reducing the API to what's needed and making other things optional (like FIFO) and improving the operators experience | 17:53 |
| flaper87 | I think the team still needs to go through those things, examine what can be done, how and when | 17:53 |
| flaper87 | but hopefully, we can get all that done asap. Not sure in what order nor how much it'll take though. | 17:54 |
| flaper87 | I'd also like to research a bit on other storage drivers like swift | 17:54 |
| flaper87 | anyway, that's kinda vague but it goes along those lines | 17:54 |
| jogo | flaper87: sounds like a good plan! Without considering reality, I think the idea of having two flavors FIFO with per queue throughput limit and a non-FIFO more SQS like flavor would be pretty neat | 17:54 |
| jogo | flaper87: thanks that is the level of detail I was looking for | 17:55 |
| notmyname | flaper87: we should talk in paris about using (or not using) swift as a backend for zaqar. | 17:55 |
| flaper87 | notmyname: YES! thanks! | 17:55 |
| flaper87 | notmyname: did you read the link I sent you? | 17:55 |
| flaper87 | I got to go now but I'd love to talk more about this | 17:56 |
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| notmyname | flaper87: yeah. TBH I had been following the thread, but had stopped int he last few days | 17:56 |
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| notmyname | flaper87: I think what you said was fine, IIRC | 17:56 |
| flaper87 | notmyname: phew, :D | 17:56 |
| flaper87 | ok, really gtg now. bbl | 17:57 |
| flaper87 | thanks | 17:57 |
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| jogo | flaper87: thanks again for all your time, I have learned a lot about zaqar and how useful it can be | 18:02 |
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| notmyname | ttx: is any program using the old summit scheduling app or has everyone so far chosen to use an etherpad? | 18:50 |
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| rcrit | sdague, in case you have any spare time, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98854/ needs one more +2. dtroyer approved last night. A lot has changed since you last checked in. | 19:04 |
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| vkmc | sdague, afazekas, dkranz sorry to ping you again, could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123252/? | 19:54 |
| vkmc | it's blocking our gates | 19:54 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: hey :) | 20:22 |
| flaper87 | sdague: sorry for bothering with reviews but: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123252/ | 20:22 |
| flaper87 | sdague: zaqar's gate is blocked by that :( | 20:22 |
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| sdague | flaper87: sure... though how did we get into that situation | 20:22 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: We updated the client to use `messaging` instead of `queuing` | 20:23 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: it was a chicken egg problem, perhaps we should've updated tempest first | 20:23 |
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| flaper87 | acutally, that wouldn't have worked | 20:23 |
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| flaper87 | actually* | 20:23 |
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| sdague | yeh, I'm confused how we got to this fail | 20:24 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: https://github.com/openstack/python-zaqarclient/commit/d721b7503941a1e7a7d86e94be64c41a9d4f74a8 this change broke it | 20:25 |
| sdague | flaper87: ok, but don't we only use the tempest client in tempest? | 20:26 |
| flaper87 | sdague: oh, mhh. good point. | 20:26 |
| flaper87 | sdague: sorry not a tempest expert | 20:26 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: let me ask malini how this was implemented | 20:26 |
| flaper87 | sdague: just to make sure everything is how it should be | 20:27 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: any other insight here? ^ | 20:27 |
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| ekarlso | boris-42: ya | 20:29 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: ah wait, it was not the clients change but devstack's where the catalog type was changed from queuing to messaging in keystone | 20:31 |
| flaper87 | ... I think | 20:31 |
| vkmc | sdague, flaper87 because it uses keystone's catalog | 20:31 |
| flaper87 | HA! | 20:31 |
| * flaper87 beats vkmc by 2 seconds | 20:31 | |
| flaper87 | actually, 1 | 20:31 |
| vkmc | :) | 20:31 |
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| flaper87 | vkmc: thanks girl, I knew you had the right answer | 20:32 |
| vkmc | we only needed to change this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123252/4/tempest/cmd/verify_tempest_config.py | 20:32 |
| vkmc | but I changed the service name everywhere to avoid future confusions | 20:32 |
| vkmc | flaper87, np | 20:32 |
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| boris-42 | ekarlso so | 20:45 |
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| boris-42 | ekarlso https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123421/ | 20:46 |
| boris-42 | ekarlso designate job | 20:46 |
| boris-42 | ekarlso I mean rally-designate need your +1 =) | 20:46 |
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| ekarlso | ooooh | 20:49 |
| ekarlso | NICE :D | 20:49 |
| ekarlso | boris-42: done :) | 20:51 |
| boris-42 | ekarlso great | 20:51 |
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| sandywalsh | anyone know if it's possible to get the openstack-* ML archives in .mbox format? Only .gz'ed .txt seems available. | 21:02 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: ^ | 21:05 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: would it be possible to add the following files from the tools/ directory to the project-config migration: check_projects_yaml_alphabetized.sh check_upstream_url_scheme.py normalize_acl.py run-compare-xml.sh run-layout.sh | 21:09 |
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| jeblair | sandywalsh: i don't know offhand, maybe reed knows? | 21:12 |
| reed | sandywalsh, not sure, let me investigate... it should be possible | 21:13 |
| sandywalsh | jeblair reed: thanks | 21:13 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: sure | 21:15 |
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| reed | sandywalsh, have you already tried things like http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/converting-mailman-gzipd-text-archive-files-to-proper-mbox-files ? | 21:21 |
| reed | this trick doesn't seem to work (404) https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-September/046757.html | 21:22 |
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| sandywalsh | reed: I looked at that, was just wondering if it was possible to fetch directly. But that conversion is pretty straightforward. | 21:22 |
| reed | sandywalsh, I'm looking also at http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030714 ... | 21:23 |
| reed | sandywalsh, what is this for? | 21:23 |
| sandywalsh | reed: thinking about a utility to make keeping up with the ML a little easier | 21:23 |
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| sandywalsh | reed: I tried the variations on the pipermail/mailman urls, but they seem to be disabled. | 21:24 |
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| reed | sandywalsh, AI to create a smart digest only for the things that you would like to read? :) | 21:24 |
| sandywalsh | reed: it's not critical, was just trying to get it from the horse's mouth (so I could use python mailbox directly) | 21:24 |
| sandywalsh | reed: not far off ... AI may be a stretch, but yeah :) | 21:25 |
| reed | sandywalsh, let me try one more thing | 21:25 |
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| reed | sandywalsh, so, pipermail actually creates the mbox files and I can probably play around with apache rules to make them downloadable but by reading around, the archives contain all the headers before email addresses are mangled to prevent spam | 21:29 |
| reed | sandywalsh, the other thing is that the mbox is not cut, it's a massive file | 21:29 |
| sandywalsh | reed: yeah, seems to be 'foo at example.com' ... but the size thing is serious. Not a problem, I'll convert to mbox on this side. | 21:30 |
| reed | sandywalsh, if the script to convert from gzip txt to mbox work, that looks a more suitable path | 21:30 |
| sandywalsh | reed: but thanks for looking into it for me ... appreciate it! | 21:31 |
| reed | sandywalsh, sure, np | 21:31 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: The openstack-infra/config repo will be frozen for project-configuration changes starting at 00:01 UTC. If you have a pending configuration change that has not merged or is not in the queue, please see us in #openstack-infra. | 21:57 | |
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| tonyb | Is there a stated policy for adding code to work around bugs in external tools we rely on? While we fix tool and give distro's a good chance to take that patch? | 23:39 |
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| clarkb | tonyb: often we exclude broken dependency versions | 23:54 |
| clarkb | tonyb: that way the fix gets in and we are clear we don't support buggy versions | 23:54 |
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| tonyb | clarkb: sorry I perhaps wasn't clear, the external tool isn't python code etc, and if we excluded the broken versions we'd be excluding *every* version. | 23:59 |
| clarkb | tonyb: so this is a persistent bug in some system dep. you will have to work around it then no? | 23:59 |
| clarkb | either that or replace it until it is fixed | 23:59 |
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