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viktors | ttx: hi! Can you please make a quick look at patch to governance https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123137/ , which fixes a typo in `programs.yaml` ? Thanks! | 08:14 |
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ttx | viktors: sure, we'll fast-track it to the meeting today | 08:14 |
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viktors | ttx: thank you! | 08:15 |
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ekarlso | viktors: do you know if Paste aka api-paste stuff supports py34 ? | 08:21 |
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viktors | ekarlso: unfortunately, I don't know | 08:23 |
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ekarlso | viktors: coolio | 08:26 |
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ttx | sdague: I could use some of your time in your morning to clean up requirements reviews | 10:07 |
ttx | sdague: we could go over them and make quick decisions for them | 10:07 |
sdague | ttx: sure | 10:08 |
sdague | I'm hear now | 10:08 |
sdague | here even | 10:08 |
ttx | sdague: how about we do it around 12:30 UTC ? | 10:08 |
ttx | sdague: we could start now but I have to leave in 10 minutes | 10:08 |
sdague | ok, I think that's fine | 10:08 |
sdague | ping me around then | 10:09 |
ttx | sdague: awesome, thx for your help! | 10:09 |
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miarmak | markmc: hi, how are you? | 11:13 |
miarmak | markmc: I have a question about oslo.config...could you help me with it please? | 11:15 |
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miarmak | markmc: what was the purpose of the new config parser implementing? Why not use existing configParser from the python standard lib? | 11:28 |
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ttx | sdague, dhellmann: around for a quick requirements review cleanup ? | 12:35 |
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sdague | sure | 12:35 |
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sdague | man, there are a bunch of these outstanding | 12:36 |
ttx | yeah, I wanted to single out the remaining exception requests, then got all confused | 12:36 |
ttx | sdague: first, I was wondering about the client bumps | 12:36 |
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sdague | well, I think client bumps need justification | 12:36 |
ttx | sdague: I thought we would bump to the recent "releases", but I can see your point | 12:37 |
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sdague | why the old client version is no longer compatible with openstack | 12:37 |
ttx | sdague: I want to avoid late bumps though | 12:37 |
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sdague | so I would nack the heat one for sure, there is no justifiction in it | 12:38 |
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ttx | hmm, maybe we should tackle them in some order | 12:38 |
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* ttx wonders what's the most convenient | 12:39 | |
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ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/requirements,n,z from bottom of last page to top of first page ? | 12:39 |
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ttx | or maybe restrict to master: ttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/requirements+branch:master,n,z | 12:40 |
sdague | yeh, one sec, let me finish rebasing monty's drop, as we should approve that | 12:41 |
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ttx | sdague: ok, ping me when ready | 12:42 |
sdague | ok, pushed | 12:42 |
ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92095/2 | 12:43 |
sdague | so yeh - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/requirements+branch:master,n,z seems good | 12:43 |
ttx | I would just -2 to freeze it, or abandon it | 12:43 |
sdague | honestly, we're testing upstream with > 3.0 right now | 12:43 |
sdague | there is a reason I brought it back | 12:43 |
sdague | because there is no way it's even close to right I think | 12:43 |
ttx | hrm | 12:44 |
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ttx | how would >=2.5.0 be better than >=2.4.8 though | 12:44 |
ttx | if what we do is actually >=3.0 | 12:45 |
sdague | for the reasons provided in the commit message | 12:45 |
sdague | there are specific differences in internals from 2.4 to 2.5 which means I really doubt we work with 2.4 any more | 12:45 |
sdague | man, all these are going to be merge conflicts | 12:46 |
ttx | hm, ok. Just want to make sure we don't screw up distros by +2ing it during freeze though | 12:46 |
ttx | sdague: shall we prioritize by starting with what we really want ? | 12:47 |
ttx | ubuntu is on >=3.0 | 12:47 |
sdague | ttx: right, that's why we are testing on 3.0 | 12:47 |
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ttx | so has debian testing | 12:48 |
sdague | ok, well you propose the things you think we want for release :) | 12:49 |
sdague | and I'll provide opinions | 12:49 |
ttx | have a hard time to tell fedora | 12:49 |
ttx | sdague: I don't see this one as a priority. I agree it's long time due, but it won't break anything if it stays the way it is | 12:49 |
sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122304/ - this is monty's less drop | 12:50 |
ttx | less is more | 12:50 |
sdague | so... bad requirements do break things | 12:50 |
ttx | approved | 12:50 |
sdague | which is why I think the kombu bump should happen | 12:50 |
sdague | but we can decide later | 12:51 |
ttx | yeah, let's do a first pass | 12:51 |
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ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46325/ can probably be abandoned at this point | 12:51 |
sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98262/ - structural | 12:51 |
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sdague | ACK on 46325 | 12:52 |
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sdague | I told mtreinish https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98262/ is going to have to wait, I'll -2 it | 12:52 |
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sdague | oops wrong link | 12:53 |
sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98262/ is a test, we should add it | 12:53 |
sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122478/ is the tempest-lib, it should wait | 12:53 |
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sdague | ttx: confused on which? | 12:54 |
ttx | sdague: I'll let you call the reviews, my sort is different than yours :) | 12:54 |
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sdague | yeh, I'm spot picking now honestly to try to get the easy stuff out of the way | 12:54 |
ttx | sdague: approving the test | 12:54 |
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ttx | ack on tempest-lib | 12:55 |
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sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/requirements+NOT+label:Code-Review%253C%253D-2,n,z | 12:55 |
sdague | that will drop the -2s | 12:56 |
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sdague | ok, starting at the bottom of that list now, so we don't have to stare at -2ed stuff | 12:56 |
ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+project:openstack/requirements+NOT+label:Code-Review%253C%253D-2,n,z | 12:56 |
ttx | that will filter on master | 12:56 |
sdague | ah, great | 12:56 |
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ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117569/ | 12:57 |
sdague | I'd say abandon on that | 12:57 |
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sdague | notmyname never followed up with how to actually test that change he wanted | 12:57 |
dhellmann | we're not targeting precise any more, right? | 12:57 |
sdague | the integrated release isn't | 12:58 |
dhellmann | right | 12:58 |
sdague | however swift would like to | 12:58 |
ttx | or we can -2 it for freeze reasons, at least | 12:58 |
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dhellmann | I think it makes sense to abandon changes at this point. They can be restored. | 12:58 |
sdague | well, it needs really work to move forward, I'd just abandon | 12:58 |
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ttx | sdague: ok, go for it | 12:58 |
dhellmann | oops, I have to run an errand, but I'll be back in about an hour | 12:58 |
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ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118410/ | 12:58 |
ttx | dhellmann: we should hopefully be done | 12:59 |
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sdague | ttx: you should approve that one :) | 12:59 |
dhellmann | yeah, sorry | 12:59 |
sdague | so we can stop using tests out of pbr | 12:59 |
sdague | requirements should own it's own tests | 12:59 |
dhellmann | +2 | 12:59 |
sdague | it's a straight transplant | 12:59 |
ttx | ok go go go | 12:59 |
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ttx | +2/APRVed | 13:00 |
sdague | thanks | 13:00 |
sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114213/ | 13:00 |
dhellmann | this thing for beautifulsoup - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113084/ - we should see about using pyquery instead. Last I saw BS wasn't maintained. | 13:00 |
sdague | I think that's an abandon | 13:00 |
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ttx | yep abandoning$* | 13:00 |
sdague | dhellmann: what integrated release project uses that? | 13:00 |
dhellmann | sdague: no idea | 13:01 |
sdague | dhellmann: ok, then I'm -2 | 13:01 |
dhellmann | oh, it says openstack-manuals | 13:01 |
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dhellmann | now that we have a full mirror, they don't need to list their dependencies here, though | 13:01 |
sdague | yeh, we should really not have manuals hooked into gr | 13:01 |
ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116708/ | 13:02 |
dhellmann | yeah, we should probably remove anything from this list that isn't in an integrated project, now that we can | 13:02 |
sdague | ttx: I'll respin that after this | 13:02 |
ttx | Looks like this one needs a new patchset, skipping | 13:02 |
sdague | it's a doc patch | 13:02 |
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sdague | so I actually duped - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114757/ later not remembering it existed | 13:03 |
ttx | Ah. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114757/ | 13:03 |
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ttx | sdague: they are slightly different though | 13:03 |
ttx | one has the upper bound | 13:03 |
sdague | ttx: yeh, I didn't realize websockify doesn't have a stable interface | 13:03 |
sdague | which solly said on the list | 13:03 |
ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122702/ hasn't | 13:03 |
sdague | so I'm abandoning 122702 | 13:04 |
ttx | ok, so abandon 122702, and discuss 114757 at meeting today | 13:04 |
ttx | sounds like a true DepFreeze exception | 13:04 |
sdague | sure, I put out the exception email about it | 13:04 |
sdague | and got a completely confusing response from solly | 13:04 |
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ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113184/ | 13:04 |
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sdague | all the xstatic packages are odd to me | 13:06 |
ttx | That's a freeze exception request | 13:06 |
sdague | because it's not really even python | 13:06 |
sdague | it's javascript packaged as python | 13:06 |
ttx | was requested at the same time as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121509/ | 13:06 |
ttx | and already-granted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122410/ | 13:06 |
ttx | so we can discuss that at meeting as well. i'm confused too and would like David's take on it | 13:07 |
sdague | well https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121509 says that they need to wait for a new bump | 13:07 |
sdague | I'm going to WIP that last one | 13:07 |
sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120252/ - I suggest abandon | 13:08 |
ttx | sdague: why? | 13:09 |
sdague | because kite isn't part of the integrated release, and it's sitting in merge conflict | 13:09 |
ttx | ok, since I don't know what this file is actually used for, i'll defer to you | 13:09 |
sdague | that's used for requirements enforcement | 13:10 |
ttx | but it contains incubated and stackforge things too | 13:10 |
sdague | also, realistically, kite seems all but dead - https://github.com/openstack/kite/commits/master | 13:10 |
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sdague | ttx: it does, I think we need to start purging stackforge projects next cycle. Because projects start proposing requirements for their stackforge project | 13:11 |
sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122697/ - I think that's a -2 | 13:12 |
sdague | it also reopens can of worms about adding g-r for driver specific reqs | 13:12 |
ttx | ok, if you can make up a good cover message, abandon it :) [120252] | 13:12 |
sdague | which I think we don't have a great answer on yet | 13:12 |
ttx | sdague: ok, -2 for freeze reasons, at the very minimum | 13:12 |
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ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122706/ would fall in the "not necessary" bucket | 13:13 |
sdague | so you might want to be the one that -2s these, as I'm going to be out of pocket for a bunch of weeks prior to summit | 13:13 |
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ttx | ok | 13:13 |
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sdague | we should actually probably get you to -2 all the ones I've got -2s on and I can release them | 13:14 |
sdague | but we can do that after | 13:14 |
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ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117910/1 is probably a good thing but needs a rebase | 13:14 |
ttx | We can ask David about it in-meeting since it's the same bag | 13:15 |
ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122993/ is definitely one we'll close in-meeting today | 13:15 |
sdague | ttx: yeh, I'm rebasing 117910 | 13:15 |
sdague | yeh, 122993 I do feel needs to wait, just because it's a potentially interesting change to testing this late in the game | 13:16 |
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sdague | as I said in my -1 | 13:16 |
ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120468/ looks like it's a warranted client bump. I'll +2/APRV it unless you disagree | 13:16 |
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sdague | well, I challenged slicknic on that one | 13:17 |
sdague | because it seems like it's one of the gratuitous client bumps | 13:17 |
ttx | oh, it's not merged yet | 13:17 |
ttx | the horizon change | 13:17 |
sdague | it's not needed for the horizon change either | 13:17 |
sdague | it's not blocking the horizon change | 13:18 |
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ttx | ok, feels like a kilo thing anyway | 13:18 |
ttx | -2ed | 13:19 |
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sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121624/ - feels like it's client bump with justification | 13:19 |
ttx | ok approving | 13:19 |
sdague | also, it's bumping a minor # instead of a patch number (which I don't think we should ever do a g-r bump for honestly) | 13:20 |
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sdague | I feel like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122955/ is a -2 | 13:20 |
sdague | and part of the projects.txt cleanup | 13:20 |
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ttx | I'll let you write the cover letter for that | 13:21 |
sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123031/ is probably also a -2, no justification for where it's used | 13:21 |
ttx | ok, will -2 it | 13:21 |
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sdague | I wrote a -1 for 122955 | 13:22 |
sdague | if you want to -2 | 13:22 |
ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121580/ | 13:22 |
sdague | is anyone using that for juno? | 13:22 |
sdague | that feels like a -2 for juno, +A once everything is openned up | 13:22 |
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ttx | I think glance wanted to, but that got nixed after a short ffe | 13:23 |
sdague | yeh, so -2 now, +A for kilo | 13:24 |
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sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122221/ - I think this is -2 for similar "you are not part of the integrated release" as above | 13:24 |
sdague | I wrote a -1 comment | 13:24 |
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ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122180/ | 13:25 |
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sdague | yeh, let's poke mriedem | 13:25 |
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sdague | mriedem: why can't other projects function unless they have the new novaclient? | 13:26 |
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sdague | because much like the other client bumps, we should have a good reason why the old version can't work for people | 13:26 |
sdague | before we force them to upgrade | 13:26 |
mriedem | i thought we gave until last week for the clients to do their final juno release | 13:26 |
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sdague | sure | 13:26 |
mriedem | there are blueprint changes tied to the latest version (for juno) | 13:27 |
sdague | but that doesn't mean we need to bootstrap the floor of all clients to the latest things | 13:27 |
mriedem | but those could come after juno, i don't care | 13:27 |
mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122180/ also has a token masking fix in it | 13:27 |
sdague | mriedem: right, but the impact of g-r is that neutron will have to upgrade their novaclient | 13:27 |
sdague | mriedem: sure, those are all good things, but they don't mean you *can't* use the old version | 13:27 |
mriedem | sure, i can used old websockify too :) | 13:28 |
sdague | mriedem: and hang from time to time :) | 13:28 |
mriedem | \o/ | 13:28 |
mriedem | point is i don't care that much, that change should have gone in last week | 13:28 |
mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122180/ that is | 13:28 |
mriedem | now it's too late | 13:28 |
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ttx | sdague: feels like that's not "necessary" so we should freeze it | 13:28 |
mriedem | i was holding it up for the release that mikal was going to do last week and then i forgot about updating it | 13:28 |
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sdague | well, basically the question is: will neutron break horribly at the older version | 13:29 |
sdague | because that's all this impacts, the minimum required version of novaclient in neutron | 13:29 |
mriedem | it wouldn't only be neutron, would also be ceilometer and heat | 13:29 |
mriedem | and anything else using novaclient | 13:29 |
sdague | sure... will any of them break horribly | 13:29 |
mriedem | i wouldn't think so, don't we already run tempest with the trunk client code? | 13:29 |
ttx | i.e. does any of them have a RC bug that this would fix | 13:29 |
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ttx | I take that as a no :) | 13:30 |
mriedem | i would think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106987/ is a good add | 13:30 |
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mriedem | but i'm not going to fuss over this | 13:30 |
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mriedem | some direction on whether or not it's a good idea to cut a final client release before rc1 and get g-r updated is probably needed though, because this happens every release, | 13:30 |
mriedem | for us that are doing packaging (and legal clearance for those packages in product releases) need a little time for new versions at the end of the release, | 13:31 |
mriedem | like the glut of oslo libs that bumped versions several times in the last 2 weeks | 13:31 |
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ttx | mriedem: cut a final client -> good, bump the requirements floor -> only if needed | 13:31 |
sdague | mriedem: yeh, agreed, a bunch of this needs some better guidelines for next cycle | 13:31 |
mriedem | ttx: fair point | 13:31 |
sdague | ok, so I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122180/ is a -2 then | 13:32 |
ttx | sdague: i'll freeze it. | 13:32 |
ttx | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123101/ -> I think that falls in the internal library exception, so I'm +2 on it | 13:32 |
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sdague | ttx: agreed, that seems to fix an important bug | 13:32 |
sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122520/ - same client bump issue, there doesn't seem to be a justification | 13:33 |
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ttx | yep reversed my +2 to a -1 | 13:33 |
sdague | flaper87: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122709 - same question as to mriedem - why can't other projects live with the old version? | 13:34 |
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sdague | in the glance case I do think there is a bug there, but the commit message doesn't ref it | 13:34 |
mriedem | i think 0.14.0 had a regression | 13:34 |
mriedem | right | 13:34 |
mriedem | i'm looking | 13:34 |
flaper87 | projects in master can live with 0.14.0. Older projects can't | 13:34 |
flaper87 | sdague: mriedem ^ | 13:34 |
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flaper87 | I mean, Havana and Icehouse were broken by 0.14.0 | 13:34 |
ttx | so as far as Juno is concerned >=0.14.0 is fine | 13:35 |
flaper87 | yes | 13:35 |
sdague | flaper87: ok, great, so abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122709 | 13:35 |
flaper87 | sdague: oh mmh, why can't I keep it until Kilo is open? | 13:35 |
flaper87 | :D | 13:35 |
sdague | because you don't ever need that bump :) | 13:36 |
sdague | I abandoned | 13:36 |
flaper87 | lol, fair enough | 13:36 |
sdague | ttx: is that the whole list? | 13:36 |
flaper87 | noooooooooooooooooooooo, I wanted to kill it | 13:36 |
flaper87 | :( | 13:36 |
ttx | feels like it | 13:36 |
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ttx | sdague: so we'll discuss kombu, websockify, urllib3, xstatic-jquery-ui at meeting | 13:38 |
sdague | sounds good | 13:38 |
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sdague | great | 13:38 |
ttx | pretty sure a number of them will come back with merge conflicts | 13:38 |
sdague | I'll babysit some of those rebases today | 13:38 |
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sdague | well, I stacked them | 13:39 |
sdague | to try to prevent that | 13:39 |
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sdague | ttx: you want to run through all the things I've got a -2 on and -2 them | 13:40 |
sdague | and I'll pull mine | 13:40 |
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sdague | so they can be reset should I be out on paternity leave when things open up | 13:40 |
ttx | hmm, wait: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122697/1 | 13:40 |
ttx | we said we should depfreeze it, right | 13:40 |
sdague | yeh, that should be frozen I think | 13:41 |
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ttx | sdague: and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123101/ could use your +2/APRV | 13:42 |
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sdague | done | 13:42 |
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ttx | ok, I think we are done for now | 13:43 |
ttx | sdague: many thanks | 13:43 |
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ttx | sdague: I took over your -2s | 13:46 |
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sdague | ttx: cool, I'll pull mine | 13:49 |
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mriedem | ttx: feel free to abandon this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102862/ - the author is no longer with ibm | 13:56 |
mriedem | so probably not going to respond | 13:56 |
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mriedem | ihrachyshka: replied on this cherry pick https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118748/ | 14:03 |
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mriedem | sdague: added the bug tag from your change here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114757/ | 14:27 |
mriedem | since i think that's what you were looking for | 14:27 |
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zigo | dhellmann: Hey, did you see my reply about releasing oslo.messaging 1.4.1 ? | 15:04 |
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zigo | This would help me a lot if you at least tag... | 15:05 |
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dhellmann | zigo: no | 15:05 |
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zigo | dhellmann: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/046795.html | 15:06 |
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dhellmann | zigo: would it be useful to tag the same commit as 1.4.1, or do you need any of the fixes we've committed since then? | 15:07 |
zigo | dhellmann: The same commit. The issue for me is just the version number... | 15:07 |
dhellmann | ok | 15:07 |
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zigo | dhellmann: I just need that nobody uses 1.4.1 anymore if I use it for 1.4.0. | 15:07 |
dhellmann | zigo: I think I can do that today, let me make sure that's not going to cause any trouble for anyone else | 15:07 |
zigo | dhellmann: Thanks a lot. | 15:07 |
dhellmann | zigo: yeah, we wouldn't reuse a version number ourself | 15:08 |
zigo | :) | 15:08 |
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zigo | dhellmann: No need to file a bug as Davanum Srinivas suggested then? | 15:08 |
dims | zigo: just wanted to be sure we track the problem and not lose track :) | 15:09 |
dhellmann | I think we can skip it if we just need another tag | 15:09 |
dims | ack | 15:09 |
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zigo | Cheers. | 15:10 |
dhellmann | ttx, sdague : do you see any issue with retagging oslo.messaging 1.4.0 as 1.4.1 to fix zigo's debian packaging issue? ^^ | 15:10 |
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sdague | dhellmann: I don't see an issue with it | 15:10 |
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sdague | hmmm... actually, I'm not sure I see the problem | 15:11 |
sdague | can someone explain it to me from base principles? | 15:11 |
dhellmann | zigo: tag pushed | 15:11 |
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zigo | dhellmann: You rox, thanks. | 15:12 |
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dhellmann | sdague: the wrong thing was packaged as 1.4.0 in debian, and getting it out is going to be more difficult than just bumping the version # | 15:12 |
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sdague | ok, but that only means we need a new tag right? | 15:13 |
sdague | no g-r changes actually needed | 15:13 |
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dhellmann | sdague: right, I just tagged the same commit as 1.4.0 and we should not need to change our requirements list | 15:15 |
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sdague | yep, if that's all that's needed, +1 from me | 15:15 |
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jgriffith | johnthetubaguy: have you seen this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123162/ | 17:02 |
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jgriffith | johnthetubaguy: snuck through, wanted to ping you on it | 17:03 |
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johnthetubaguy | jgriffith: appreciate the heads up, but no one is maintain that, so it makes sense | 17:03 |
jgriffith | johnthetubaguy: that was the thought but wanted to confirm | 17:04 |
jgriffith | johnthetubaguy: appreciate it | 17:04 |
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johnthetubaguy | jgriffith: no worries, thats all good, Bob would be the only one likely to maintain it at this point | 17:04 |
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chmouel | may be useful for folks that uses zsh https://gist.github.com/chmouel/60a374ba24ebd2e12061 | 20:46 |
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boris-42 | ekarlso hi there | 20:55 |
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ayoung | ttx, dolphm is laid up at the moment, but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120310/ was based on his direction | 21:19 |
ayoung | I can find the IRC logs to show if you want | 21:19 |
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ttx | ayoung: it's probably fine to wait anyway, it's just the governance repo change | 21:49 |
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ayoung | ttx, can the other change go through without it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120261/ | 21:57 |
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ttx | ayoung: it happened before | 22:00 |
ttx | We could also accept that Dolph delegated authority and run with it | 22:01 |
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ttx | in case he doesn't show up and +1 it today | 22:01 |
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