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| ihrachys | ttx: ping re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80687/ | 10:53 |
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| ttx | ihrachys: pong | 10:54 |
| ttx | ihrachys: looks like I should approve it now ? | 10:55 |
| ihrachys | ttx: yeap :) | 10:55 |
| ttx | done! | 10:55 |
| ihrachys | tnx! | 10:55 |
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| zoresvit | Hello! In Keystone with LDAP backend, will user tokens be revoked once user gets locked/deleted in LDAP? | 10:57 |
| reidrac | chmouel: ping! | 10:58 |
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| ttx | mordred/fungi: one of you needs to +2/APRV https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75213/ -- sice you both co_authored it's tricky to determine who should :) | 11:17 |
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| mflobo | one question related to keystone. what is the fakeldap library that keystone tests use? | 11:28 |
| mflobo | Is an external project? | 11:28 |
| mflobo | where can I download? | 11:28 |
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| mordred | ttx: is it breaking the gate currently? | 12:06 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mordred, are you talking about the stable gate? | 12:24 |
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| mordred | SergeyLukjanov: I have no idea? | 12:25 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mordred, :) | 12:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mordred, btw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80687/ should unblock the gate | 12:26 |
| ttx | mordred: blocks some gate jobs yes (like py33 jobs on oslo.rootwrap) | 12:27 |
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| dims | annegentle, ping. if you want to take a look at the proposals on the google GSoC site, please login and let me know your id | 13:26 |
| annegentle | dims: was just gonna write you an email saying you're doing such a good job :) | 13:27 |
| annegentle | dims: I'd be happy to take a look | 13:27 |
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| dims | annegentle, thanks. here's the url - http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2014 | 13:29 |
| annegentle | dims: google-melange.com, logged in, then what's next? | 13:29 |
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| dims | let me know your "username" from the "My Profile" page | 13:30 |
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| russellb | dolphm: you around by chance? | 14:35 |
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| dolphm | russellb: o/ | 15:09 |
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| dansmith | dolphm: there was a question about deprecating keystone <v3 in the nova meeting | 15:16 |
| dansmith | ...before nova has migrated to v3 | 15:16 |
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| dolphm | dansmith: thanks, i'll check the meeting logs | 15:17 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: did you have some context here? ^ | 15:18 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: my context was more that there is a bug fix in nova that uses keystone v3 but since nova doesn't support keystone v3 yet, it was -2'ed | 15:18 |
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| mriedem | so i was looking to figure out what that support meant, i.e. just tempest running compute API tests with keystone v3? | 15:19 |
| mriedem | we're kind of in the same boat with cinder and glance v2 patches/blueprints | 15:19 |
| dansmith | okay, I know PhilD had questions about nova supporting it, since the plan is apparently to deprecate <v3 for icehouse, which means nova is using a deprecated keystone API | 15:19 |
| dansmith | dolphm: is that right? | 15:19 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: dolphm: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-March/030403.html | 15:19 |
| dansmith | mriedem: well, the concern was that keystone was going to deprecate theirs, which places it in a different thing than cinder, right? | 15:20 |
| mriedem | dansmith: apparently cinder v1 is deprecated now too | 15:20 |
| russellb | ugh | 15:20 |
| dansmith | heh | 15:20 |
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| mriedem | that's why they wanted us to land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43986/ | 15:20 |
| mriedem | i don't know if glance v1 is officially deprecated or not | 15:20 |
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| dansmith | last I heard, glance was waiting until we were on v2 I think | 15:21 |
| mriedem | i guess nova is the only kid in town that doesn't deprecate APIs :) | 15:21 |
| russellb | i don't see the point of deprecating anything when you don't have a timeline for removal | 15:21 |
| russellb | and if stuff doesn't use the new thing, you can't have a realistic timeline for removal | 15:21 |
| russellb | you have to *start* with getting *our* code to use the new APIs | 15:21 |
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| dolphm | dansmith: yes, that's correct (still catching up) | 15:21 |
| mriedem | yeah i know; i thought keystone was setting a timeline | 15:21 |
| russellb | much less 3rd party code | 15:21 |
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| mriedem | of K or something, but i could be pulling that out of my as* | 15:22 |
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| dolphm | russellb: we're deprecating now that v3 has full parity with v2, to ensure new development happens against v3 rather than v2, and to have the *option* to start removing parts of the implementation in 2 releases | 15:23 |
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| russellb | dolphm: OK, are keystone folks looking to help projects migrate as necessary? | 15:24 |
| russellb | i think that's key to ensuring you have that option | 15:24 |
| dolphm | russellb: things like the public v2 authentication interface i imagine will be supported for much longer | 15:24 |
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| dolphm | russellb: yeah, we're trying to get keystoneclient up to speed, so we can "upgrade" code across openstack with that | 15:25 |
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| russellb | cool | 15:25 |
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| russellb | as long as there's work to help projects along, and consideration/documentation for the deployment impact, i think we're OK | 15:25 |
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| dolphm | russellb: ++ | 15:26 |
| russellb | calling it deprecated makes people think there's a timeline for removal | 15:26 |
| russellb | and when we don't support the new thing, people freak out :) | 15:26 |
| russellb | (like me) | 15:26 |
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| dolphm | russellb: understood / intentional ;) | 15:26 |
| russellb | maybe a keystone v3 migration FAQ page or something | 15:26 |
| dolphm | russellb: that's a good idea | 15:27 |
| russellb | dolphm: but to be clear, keystone is driving the migration of other projects to v3? | 15:27 |
| russellb | that's my typical view of these things | 15:27 |
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| russellb | sounds like yes, since most of it is client/middleware work | 15:28 |
| dansmith | the other thing that I think has gotten missed with this and the cinder thing, | 15:28 |
| dansmith | is that we need some real coordination between core teams to make sure blueprints supporting this are properly targeted and emphasized | 15:28 |
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| russellb | +1 | 15:28 |
| russellb | dolphm: another v3 concern I have is not just "working", but v3 implies support for things that no projects support | 15:28 |
| russellb | like domains | 15:28 |
| russellb | so we need to be clear about what that means | 15:28 |
| russellb | there's some discussions around how we might do hierarchical multi-tenancy in nova and others, but it's still very early | 15:29 |
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| russellb | a documentation / messaging issue we need to be careful about | 15:30 |
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| dolphm | russellb: just ran off and filed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/document-v2-to-v3-transition | 15:31 |
| dolphm | catching up... | 15:31 |
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| dolphm | russellb: yeah, our goal is to find and replace any custom API client implementations with keystoneclient, and auth_token is already (mostly) compatible with both v2 and v3 (but unfortunately requires *both* v2 and v3 to be available, since it's not fully updated yet) | 15:33 |
| dolphm | russellb: domains is an interesting issue, because domains are mostly intended to provide multitenancy to keystone itself -- not to provide some higher level of multitenancy to existing multitenant services | 15:34 |
| dolphm | russellb: quotas are about the only use case for domains outside of keystone that make sense to me, everything else sounds like "square peg + round hole" | 15:35 |
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| cfriesen | does anyone know offhand where in the code we transition from task_state.REBOOTING back to a task_state of None? | 16:31 |
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| YorikSar | ttx: Around? | 16:33 |
| YorikSar | ttx: May I bother you with change request about rootwrap daemon mode? | 16:33 |
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| YorikSar | ttx: https://review.openstack.org/81798 | 16:36 |
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| ttx | YorikSar: hmm. oslo.rootwrap is kinda feature frozen right now | 16:41 |
| ttx | But will review | 16:41 |
| YorikSar | ttx: Oh, it's frozen too? | 16:41 |
| ttx | one week before RC1 is not really the moment to rewrite a library consumed by 3 projects | 16:41 |
| ttx | YorikSar: anyway, will look at it, thanks for the heads-up | 16:42 |
| YorikSar | ttx: Well. My changes (almost) don't touch codepaths that are used by all projects. | 16:42 |
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| YorikSar | ttx: Should I create a blueprint for that? | 16:43 |
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| ttx | YorikSar: are you going to be in ATL ? | 16:54 |
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| YorikSar | ttx: Unfortunately no. | 16:55 |
| ttx | YorikSar: OK, let me have alook at the changes (tomorrow) and will ping you again | 16:55 |
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| YorikSar | ttx: Great. Thanks :) | 16:55 |
| YorikSar | ttx: I'll add you to the CR so that it'll be easier for you to find. | 16:56 |
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| ttx | YorikSar: ack. I'm subscribed to oslo.rootwrap anyway | 17:00 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem: around? | 17:23 |
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| mriedem | jgriffith: i am now | 17:35 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem: hey ya | 17:41 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: wondered if I could pick your brain :) | 17:41 |
| mriedem | jgriffith: sure | 17:41 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem: cinder hit the circular ref issue with oslo.messaging | 17:41 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: I noticed your fix to nova | 17:42 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: but sadly that caused quite a few problems | 17:42 |
| jgriffith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81696/1 | 17:42 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: I suspect the underlying problem is passing in non string items to the json serializer | 17:42 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem: ie http://paste.openstack.org/show/73929/ | 17:42 |
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| mriedem | jgriffith: i thought dansmith fixed that | 17:42 |
| mriedem | jgriffith: do you have a link to the nova patch? | 17:43 |
| dansmith | mriedem: ? | 17:43 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: OHHH you logged it | 17:43 |
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| jgriffith | jogo: fixed it | 17:43 |
| mriedem | jgriffith: right | 17:43 |
| jgriffith | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1283270 | 17:43 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1283270 in oslo.messaging ""EncodeError: Circular reference detected" all over the check queue logs (dup-of: 1279881)" [Undecided,New] | 17:43 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1279881 in nova "Cannot send scheduler.run_instance events" [Critical,Fix released] | 17:43 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1279881 | 17:44 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74977/ | 17:44 |
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| jgriffith | sighhhh | 17:45 |
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| jgriffith | actually... no | 17:45 |
| jgriffith | https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/a83d5f11e410223825ac32ccdd3d70651af3f2e1 | 17:45 |
| jgriffith | sileht: ping ^^ | 17:45 |
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| mriedem | same patch, different author, i'm confused, but whatever | 17:47 |
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| mriedem | so that doesn't work in cinder is the point? | 17:47 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem: it's actually different (part two) | 17:48 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: no, it breaks the unit tests horribly | 17:48 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem: frankly this is item 3 for oslo.messaging in cinder... considering 3 strikes and out policy | 17:49 |
| jgriffith | although... | 17:49 |
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| mriedem | is there any other difference between how nova and cinder are using oslo.messaging? | 17:49 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem: I'm sure there's some detail/update somewhere that Cinder doesn't have | 17:50 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem: looking closer this may be a unit test only issue | 17:51 |
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| mriedem | i do remember looking at the nova base test setup stuff from the oslo.messaging sync | 17:51 |
| mriedem | since there was some magic there | 17:51 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem: yeah.... I'll sleuth a while | 17:52 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: thanks for being a sounding board | 17:52 |
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| mriedem | jgriffith: np, here is the oslo.messaging port for nova https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39929/ | 17:53 |
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| mriedem | i remember looking at stuff like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39929/78/nova/tests/cast_as_call.py | 17:53 |
| jgriffith | oh ... nice catch | 17:53 |
| mriedem | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39929/78/nova/test.py | 17:53 |
| mriedem | there is a lot there in that patch so you'd have to poke through it a bit | 17:54 |
| mriedem | but i'd compare that to what cinder does for test setup | 17:54 |
| jgriffith | There's three major items missing on cinder's side here | 17:54 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: so this is a good start | 17:54 |
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| mriedem | cool | 17:55 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem: thanks for the help | 17:55 |
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| mriedem | well my boss is calling me into his office and i'm sure i'm probably in trouble so afk for awhile | 17:55 |
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| jgriffith | dprince: I'm fine with fixing it | 19:50 |
| jgriffith | dprince: but quite frankly I should have never let it merge in the first place | 19:50 |
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| jgriffith | dprince: and reverting back to previous state is *safer* IMHO then continuing to find the easter eggs | 19:50 |
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| dprince | jgriffith: not letting it merge might have been the safest bet. That patch seems way to big to revert at this point though. | 19:51 |
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| jgriffith | dprince: yeah, sort of damned either way | 19:52 |
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| dprince | jgriffith: If nothing else had landed it might be different. But it looks like there have already been quite a few changes. | 19:52 |
| jgriffith | dprince: not really but... still | 19:53 |
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| jgriffith | dprince: anyway, not arguing your points, but it's pretty easy to sit on the other side of it | 19:53 |
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| jgriffith | dprince: The only redeeming point is that the only place there appears to be errors now is in the unit tests | 19:54 |
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| sandywalsh | it'd be nice to get rid of those oslo.messaging._drivers.amqp [-] UNIQUE_ID / MSG_ID log messages | 20:08 |
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| abhirc | I am referring the openstack document : http://docs.openstack.org/developer/horizon/quickstart.html#horizon-s-structure | 21:31 |
| abhirc | is there a default username and password | 21:32 |
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