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jamielennoxhow do i test against an oslo.config object when i can't preload the config opts05:26
jamielennox?05:26
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jamielennoxso i have a CONF object and the function does the register_opts right before they are used05:26
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jamielennoxthat works fine for loading from a file, but i can't do a set_override or anything because the group doesn't exist yet05:26
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kibadis it possible to get code coverage while running tempest?05:53
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jayveeI'm re-using the module https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/asterisk in a project of my own, and I noticed the package asterisk-sounds-extra-en-g722 that it depends on doesn't seem to exist any more in the Digium repo05:59
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jayveewould anyone be opposed to making $sounds a parameter to the class, so one can include the class without only some sounds, e.g. class { 'asterisk': sounds => [], } ?06:02
clarkbjayvee: that should be ok. fwiw you may get more discussion going in #openstack-infra06:03
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clarkbkibad sure just run services under coverage.py06:03
jayveeclarkb: will do, thanks06:03
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kibadclarkb: sorry for noob question how can I do that?06:03
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kibadclarkb: also the coverage I am going to get will be coverage for api I'm testing suppose cinder or it will be tempest code?06:04
clarkbkibad: install the package and modify how the services are started. it certainly isnt something that works out of the box today06:05
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clarkbit can be both depending on where you run code under coverage06:05
kibadthanks clarkb I will try it out06:06
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agordeevchmouel: sorry for long responce. DIB is diskimage-builder10:43
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ihrachysarosen: ping re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7320212:05
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dhellmannjamielennox: your test can register the options, too, as long as the option definitions match the ones in the core code13:29
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dhellmannjamielennox: it is only an error to register an option twice if the settings are different13:30
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dolphmttx: concerning string freeze... i've found conflicting info about whether or not it's okay to add entirely new strings14:11
ttxdolphm: not ok, but the execption procedure is "just" to keep the translations team in the loop of the new string14:11
ttxi.e. make sure (1) everyone knows about it and (2) it's worth the disruption it creates14:12
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ttxpeople that have reached 100% translations like to keep it that way, so being notified helps them14:12
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dolphmttx: hrm, how do i go about raising a flag for the translation folks?14:13
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ttxdolphm: now THAT is a good question14:14
ttxI would send to openstack-dev and cc: Daisy14:15
ttxbut they haven't defined a formal procedure that I know of14:15
ttxdolphm: maybe ask annegentle14:15
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annegentledolphm: definitely ask Daisy. They have their weekly meeting at UTC 0000 today14:21
annegentledolphm: the goal they have on their mailing list is horizon 100% by April 1014:22
dolphmannegentle: ttx: i just found openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org -- i assume i should ping that list instead of -dev?14:22
annegentledolphm: which still doesn't answer your question but giving you an idea of their current state of mind14:22
annegentledolphm: yep14:22
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dolphmannegentle: daisy f, i assume? (i'm afraid i don't know daisy!)14:24
annegentledolphm: she's in beijing so probably not awake now14:24
annegentledolphm: but she's their lead, runs the meetings14:24
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dolphmannegentle: ttx: thanks!14:26
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devanandaflaper87|afk: hi! did I just miss you?16:22
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ekarlsoviktors_: how does one use trollius ? ^^16:52
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jaypipesdhellmann: lol, I am no paste.deploy lover :) I'd love to see it gone.17:08
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dhellmannjaypipes: this is one of those situations where we should have written things down. I can't find the etherpad from that session, if we even had one. I remember ewindisch was organizing it.17:17
* jaypipes wasn't at the summit :)17:18
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ewindischdhellmann: netsplits seem to have stolen my scrollback - what's the context of this? :)17:25
dhellmannewindisch: dropping paste as part of our eventual move to python 317:25
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ewindischdhellmann: it was suggested (by yourself, iirc), but that doesn't mean there is an immediate effort.17:27
dhellmannewindisch: right, but I thought we basically agreed that made sense as a path rather than trying to port paste ourselves17:28
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ewindischI think so, yes. That was more of an output of the Havana summit.17:30
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dhellmannah, so maybe I have my dates wrong17:30
ewindischbut on the same token, of little immediate influence to Icehouse or Havana since there was no serious intention of getting services ported to Python 3 yet17:30
ewindischnot while clients and oslo code wasn't py3 compatible17:31
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dhellmannewindisch: right, haypo was trying to understand the overall plan17:33
dhellmannewindisch: especially in light of his work on oslo.messaging17:34
ewindischdhellmann: having oslo.messaging ported was a stretch goal for icehouse17:35
dhellmannewindisch: yeah, it's still a WIP17:35
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harlowjarussellb don't forget to try czuul also :)17:46
harlowja*in gerrit_view17:46
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sdagueany ceilometer folks about?18:00
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sdagueceilometer logging is currently the prime culprit behind our logstash stability issues, and we need some folks to help sort out things18:00
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annegentledhellmann: around? Q for you when you get a moment18:21
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dhellmannannegentle: here18:21
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annegentledhellmann: as far as I know based on our last summit discussion, Ceilometer is the only project using pecan/wsme to document their API https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-api-doc-repos18:22
annegentledhellmann: so I wanted to talk with you before replying on the mailing list to make sure I did my homework regarding Marconi and Pecan18:23
dhellmannannegentle: ironic is as well, we've fixed some bugs in the output generator for them18:23
annegentledhellmann: good to know18:23
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annegentledhellmann: your response makes it look like that's a standard, and it's not. I'm going to reply as such.18:23
dhellmannannegentle: and the point is not so much that "everyone else is doing it this way already" as "everyone else is headed in this other direction"18:24
annegentledhellmann: sure but your phrasing sounds like intimidation based on untruth18:24
dhellmannannegentle: ok, well, I certainly didn't mean to intimidate18:24
annegentledhellmann: I am sure you don't hear/read it that way so I wanted to at least bring it up18:25
annegentledhellmann: since anything I write back to the list will make me sound like "the docs queen didn't say so" or something... I'm rephrasing :)18:25
dhellmannannegentle: I think it's reasonable to ask how they're going to handle that, though, since it was not addressed at all18:25
annegentledhellmann: so far they have asked about docs standards and are very interested in doing the right docs for the right people18:25
dhellmanngood to hear18:25
annegentledhellmann: and we have WADL if we have any standard18:26
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annegentledhellmann: which they have complied with18:26
dhellmannright, we have a tool that builds wadl from pecan/wsme18:26
dhellmannif they have some other tool, that addresses the point18:26
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annegentledhellmann: but the data doesn't back up any point about pecan being the api doc generator: 1 of 9 integrated projects currently use it, plus another that is incubating18:28
annegentledhellmann: I don't see that as "everyone else heading in a direction"18:28
dhellmannannegentle: again, the point is that they did not address this need for integration in their analysis18:28
dhellmannannegentle: I would expect the other projects to adopt the doc generation tool(s) when they adopt pecan18:29
annegentledhellmann: yep, similar to the config ref generator18:29
dhellmannright18:29
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annegentledhellmann: okay, glad I could walk through it with you18:30
dhellmannok18:30
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kgriffsAnybody know the best way to contact the OS Marketing team? I only see a mailing list listed here that non-members cannot post to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/Marketing19:43
zzellehi19:44
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zzellei have a trouble with python3.3 pip requirements in git-review19:48
zzellehttp://logs.openstack.org/80/79280/7/check/gate-git-review-python33/d640e43/console.html19:48
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annegentlekgriffs_afk: Probably going to one of their meetings is a good way. Mar 27 and Apr 10 are the next ones. Niki Acosta goes to lots of those, she may have ideas for you too.20:09
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kgriffsannegentle: thanks!20:17
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annegentledhellmann: woops, two more questions about sphinxcontrib-docbookrestapi when you get a moment20:24
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dhellmannannegentle: sure, I may not be the best person to answer questions about that bit of code, but I can help find the right person20:25
annegentledhellmann: you'll prolly know this one: can it be renamed sphinxcontrib-wadlrestapi20:25
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annegentledhellmann: since the name is inaccurate20:25
annegentledhellmann: and then the other question is, how would you use it for an extensible API? does it map one rst file per WADL?20:26
dhellmannannegentle: I wouldn't anticipate any issues with that (other than the usual little headaches with such renames, which shouldn't block it)20:26
* dhellmann looks at the code20:26
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annegentledhellmann: the renaming is not bikeshedding, right? :)20:26
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annegentledhellmann: honestly it could be sphinxcontrib-restapi20:26
dhellmannannegentle: probably  not? it seems like you're right :-)20:26
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* dhellmann realizes he should move sphinxcontrib-pecanwsme to stackforge20:27
dhellmannannegentle: do you use one WADL file per endpoint now, or per API version? or something else?20:28
annegentledhellmann: right now it's one WADL per version, with an additional one WADL per extension20:29
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dhellmannannegentle: ok, this appears to generate one WADL file per input rst file, but I would need to talk to cyril and jd__ to verify20:29
annegentledhellmann: ok that sounds like an easy mapping then20:30
annegentledhellmann: thanks for looking, I was being a little lazy making you do the legwork, sorry!20:30
dhellmannannegentle: no problem, sphinx extensions are a bit weird so I'm happy to help interpret20:30
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mriedemguitarzan: is this actually a tempest problem or a cinder problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/129482420:34
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1294824 in tempest "Volume test quota race condition" [Undecided,In progress]20:34
mriedemi just hit it also20:34
mriedemjgriffith: ^20:35
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mriedemsdague: can we use tags:"console" in e-r queries then?20:37
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sdaguemriedem: at the end of the month20:40
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mriedemsdague: oh, ok20:40
sdaguewe need 14 days of the new tags to show up20:40
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guitarzanmriedem: tempest, imo20:48
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mriedemguitarzan: just got caught up20:48
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/81621/20:48
guitarzanwhat is this?20:49
mriedemguitarzan: elastic-recheck20:49
guitarzangotcha20:49
mriedemso we can tell people in their patches when jenkins fails on that20:49
mriedemfor rechecks20:49
guitarzansdague fixed that part of the bug, now it shows up as the one I filed20:49
mriedemso lazy people like me don't have to go digging through logs :)20:49
mriedemguitarzan: yeah20:49
mriedemi duped yours against the original20:49
guitarzanoh, I got it20:49
guitarzanI've seen elastic recheck, but never actually *seen* it :)20:50
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jamielennoxdtroyer: i'm not here yet but have a play with: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79542/ and see if i'm missing things21:02
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guitarzanmriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81603/21:03
guitarzanmriedem: I wasn't sure if you'd seen it21:03
jamielennoxdtroyer: i cut out a lot of those extra options and we can add them later if we need them21:03
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* clayg hopes they're will be some good session in ALT on the elasticrecheck/logstash setup - maybe "how YOU can make the gate better for everyone"21:38
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clarkbhrm does that fit as a design session?21:40
clarkbI can definitely talk about the setup at length :)21:40
clarkbsdague: ^21:40
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sdagueclayg: well I did put in a general session on elasticrecheck21:45
sdaguedon't know if it got accepted21:45
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sdagueand I'm sure we'll do a design summit session21:46
claygsdague: sweet, can't wait!21:46
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claygsdague: I only recently found out about these .yml files that are like imporantant or helpful or something and I'm just toally confused21:46
sdagueheh21:46
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sdagueif the ask the question further, maybe I can help now21:47
claygsdague: plus I occaionally want to work a bug against a project where I think I could be useful but I don't quite know how to find "all of the jobs that were effected by this bug"21:47
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claygor... even like "how to run tempest" - so I may not exactly be a target audience :\21:47
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clarkbif this summit has unconf sessions maybe we should try to do a working session21:49
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clarkbwhere we actually sit down and do stuff rather than talk to a thing on the wall21:49
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