Tuesday, 2014-03-11

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SpamapSmorganfainberg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79174/ <-- I assume you've seen the failure in postgres?00:36
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SpamapSehhh00:44
SpamapSpaste.filter_factory = keystone.contrib.revoke.routers:RevokeExtension.factory00:44
SpamapSwhy would _contrib_ stuff be in the default api-paste ?00:44
SpamapSoh I see, everything is there00:44
SpamapSI guess it's not really a contrib dir00:44
SpamapSmore like 'extensions'00:45
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SpamapShttps://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/contrib/revoke/backends/sql.py#n47 this is.. very false00:51
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SpamapSMySQL will crumble with large deletes.00:52
SpamapSeverything will actually. Large deletes are _painful_ for MVCC.. :-P00:52
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bknudsonSpamapS: on db2 large transactions fail because the transaction log will fill up.00:59
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bknudsonI think it was worse for the tokens table where this was originally implemented.00:59
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bknudsonthe revocation event table is smaller so wouldn't expect it to be as bad.00:59
bknudsonalso, the revocation event pruning happens more often.01:00
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SpamapSbknudson: on MySQL _writes will block while that delete happens_01:02
bknudsonSpamapS: so should delete in batches?01:02
SpamapSbknudson: anyway, bug filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/129062501:02
SpamapSbknudson: yes. In TripleO we're using pt-archiver to delete tokens because the flusher causes all token creation to block.01:03
SpamapSbknudson: note that PostgreSQL will also have issues with giant deletes.01:03
bknudsonSpamapS: the author of this was actually worried that auto-incremented column would be slower due to having to go to the db?01:03
SpamapSNope01:04
SpamapSthe increment happens during the insert01:04
SpamapSand mysql has _heavily_ optimized sequence generation for multiple threads01:05
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bknudsonI'd find the patch set for you but there were 82 of them.01:05
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SpamapSbknudson: It's ok. We've taken this "support all the backends" approach and now we have to make sure reviewers are experts in all of them or deal with experts in some of them like me whining and filing bugs after merge. :)01:06
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bknudsonif we'd remembered the 1188378 bug we'd just have done the limited delete for mysql when we did the change for db2.01:08
SpamapSbknudson: IIRC, mysql does not support LIMIT+DELETE+IN(subselect) .. not sure if that is what is going on there01:09
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noorulhello01:53
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noorulIn havana I hit the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+bug/119592401:53
noorulIs it possible to use 0.4.0 of python-keystoneclient in havana?01:53
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arosen-homeAkimoto: ping03:11
arosen-homewhoops wrong person i think sorry Akimoto03:12
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GheRiverohas someone had issues accesis the git openstack repos in the last hours?08:07
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Akimoto@arosen-home: no worries09:35
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BirkHey guys, I'm facing a problem with keystone. I've changed the host IP and hostname where keystone is located. The IPs where also changed in keystone DB. But now when I try to execute any keystone command, for example, keystone service-list, I'm getting a Unable to establish connection to. I'm able to ping and ssh the new IP. I've already tried to restart keystone service, but nothing changed. Any ideas?14:10
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BirkThe endpoints in keystone DB were updated with the new IP14:10
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dtroyerBirk:  you'll get that message when the auth request fails, the equivalent to 'connection refused'.  Is your auth URL updated too?  firewall rules somewhere?14:15
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Birkdtroyer: yes, the auth URL is local. Actually, running the command with the debug option I saw that I'm able to authenticate, but unable to call the OS-KSADM api, for example14:17
Birkthe AUTH_URL is 127.0.0.114:18
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dsantos_dims_ ping14:19
dims_dsantos_, pong14:19
dtroyerBirk: the second request uses the admin port...14:20
Birkdtroyer: yes14:21
dtroyercan you verify it reaches the server?14:21
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dsantos_dims_ hi... I was thinking to submit a proposal to GSoC and I saw you're the mentor to Nova14:22
Birkdtroyer: before I change the IP, all was working fine.14:22
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dims_dsantos_, hop onto #openstack-gsoc14:22
dtroyerlook in keystones log file and verify that both port bound to the expected IP (or to 0.0.0.0)14:22
dsantos_dims_ I see... I'm gonna join there and ping you again14:22
dtroyeralso, do you see the failed request to /v2.0/OS-KSADM/services in the log?14:23
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Birkdtroyer: I think the iptables rules are fine. ACCEPT     tcp  --  0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0           tcp dpt:5000 ACCEPT     tcp  --  0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0           tcp dpt:3535714:23
Birkdtroyer: I can't see nothing related to /v2.0/OS-KSADM/service in keystone.log14:24
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dtroyernesr the top of the log keystone reports its settings…verify admin_bind_host is what it should be, admin_endpoint too14:25
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dtroyerBirk: higher-level question: what kind of environment is this?  ie, Ubuntu/RDO packages, DevStack, or something else?14:28
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Birkdtroyer: I', using centos14:28
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dtroyerso RDO?14:29
Birkdtroyer: bind_host = 0.0.0.0 admin_endpoint = http://localhost:%(admin_port)s/14:29
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dtroyerok…the current DevStack default binds the admin port to an external IP, not 0.0.0.0 so localhost in the service catalog doesn't work...14:30
dtroyerthat's what this sounded like...14:30
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dtroyerdoes 'keystone catalog' give you anything?14:32
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Birkdtroyer: yes14:32
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Birkdtroyer: I need to attend a meeting right now. I really appreciate your time. I'll call you later. Thanks!14:33
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dsantos_cyeoh ping14:33
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ihrachysdoes anyone know how to run single test with tempest?14:35
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flaper87dsantos_: pong14:47
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dsantos_flaper87 I saw this bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/policy-persistence which you proposed14:47
dsantos_flaper87 and I was thinking whether I could help with the implementation as a gsoc project14:48
dsantos_flaper87 I talked to dims_ and he said it seems a good ideia... what do you think?14:48
flaper87dsantos_: sounds good to me. I'm happy to share what I had in mind (if I manage to remember :P)14:49
flaper87dsantos_: glad you're willing to pick that and make it happen14:49
dims_flaper87, are there any projects looking for this functionality?14:49
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flaper87dims_: not that I'm aware of. I think congress is supposed to do something like this, *I THINK*14:49
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flaper87the whole point is to avoid duplicating the policy file14:50
flaper87I'd first ask if that's something projects are interested in14:50
flaper87it seemed like a good idea at that time and it was a;so approved14:50
dims_dsantos_, right14:50
flaper87but you know, things change14:50
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dims_flaper87, my advice pick a scratch that folks are trying to put off like the nova v2/v3 api then you are likely to get more reviews and active use of code that you write14:51
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dsantos_flaper87, dims_: I understand...  which projects do you think would potentially use this?14:52
dims_flaper87, didn't keystone guys want some caching stuff too?14:52
dims_dogpile based?14:52
dims_dsantos_, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72291/14:55
dims_dsantos_, so a concrete gsoc plan would be to get oslo.cache graduated and integrated into keystone14:55
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dims_dsantos_, i see some more cache related stuff in blueprints so review them as well14:56
dsantos_dims_ I see... I haven't seen the cache stuff before... so I have to read a little bit to understand what should be done14:57
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dims_dsantos_, good luck, ttyl15:00
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dsantos_dims_ thanks... just one more question. When I have something more concrete I write down in the wiki page and wait or I submit the proposal to gsoc already?15:05
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dims_dsantos_, please do both15:43
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zigoWould anyone know why I have this in Keystone Icehouse B3 ? http://paste.openstack.org/show/73123/16:31
zigo(on trunk as well)16:31
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dsantos_zigo: which version r u trying to deploy?16:40
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zigodsantos_: B3, but it does it with trunk as well.16:40
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dsantos_seems like your conf file doesn't have the field "identity"16:42
dsantos_zigo: I don't know why, since the last version does16:43
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dsantos_zigo: try to take a look in the keystone.conf file. The oslo/config/cfg.py didn't find the option "identity", so the group [Identity] should be missing16:51
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zigodsantos_: Yeah, that's what I immediately thought about, but that's not the problem.16:52
zigo:/16:52
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dsantos_zigo: =/ did you try with the last version of oslo incubator?16:53
zigoNop.16:53
zigoI can.16:53
zigoWill do.16:54
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dsantos_zigo: hope it work xD16:54
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zigodsantos_: Oh, it's looking like I can just scrap my old code for setting-up the unit tests! :)16:56
zigoGood, good! :)16:56
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SpamapShttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/59150/ <-- missing UpgradeImpact tag17:38
SpamapSjust broke TripleO17:38
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SpamapSsdague: ^^ what's the general response to things that didn't set UpgradeImpact but will cause pain for upgraders?17:40
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dsantos_sorry guys... I don't know what was happening with my fedora... I was with my gui locked and I was typing stuff in the terminal but it was appearing here =/17:43
henriquehello! is there anyone from nova?17:43
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dsantos_zigo: nice... did it work?17:44
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sdagueSpamapS: floggings?17:48
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SpamapSsdague: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1290969 <-- sufficiently flogged?17:49
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sdaguelooks like a basic flogging18:06
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sdagueSpamapS: honestly, I suspect it would be very useful for tripleo folks to get more active on grenade, because enhancing the kind of breaks that we detect there will block a ton of problems from ever hitting you18:07
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sdagueright now it's basically me and dtroyer, so somewhat limitted on all the things we catch18:07
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SpamapSsdague: yeah I'm thinking the same thing.18:12
SpamapSsdague: though us being in the gate will have a similar effect. ;)18:12
SpamapSwhich is the goal18:13
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tellesnobregahi, im trying to fix a bug in the documentation, the problem is that the url in the docs for listing images in nova is v2/images but it should be v2/{project_id}/images. I can't seem to find where i can change this path, anyone can help18:14
tellesnobrega??18:14
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sdagueSpamapS: that's a ways away18:17
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SpamapSsdague: in this case, we'd need a swift-backed glance to be included in grenade. The complexity of testing all the backend abstraction we have sometimes makes me twitch...18:18
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tellesnobregaannegentle: hi, i found a problem in the compute-api, i reported a bug on it, but i cant find out how to solve it.18:30
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tellesnobregaannegentle: the problem is with the images call, on nova the path should be v2/{project_id}/images but it is only v2/images18:31
sdagueSpamapS: I'm pretty sure that's how we're backed18:31
zoresvit1I've seen this recently. There's already a discussion in mail list: https://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg18564.html18:32
zoresvit1lifeless: That was towards you :)18:32
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SpamapSsdague: I'm reading grenade, but it isn't clear to me how to find out where the config files come from.18:34
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sdagueSpamapS: they come from devstack18:36
sdagueso devstack old setup18:36
sdaguethen that config is used on the new side18:36
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SpamapSsdague: ok yeah so devstack does use swift18:38
SpamapSsdague: it sets known_stores explicitly in current master18:38
SpamapS        iniset $GLANCE_API_CONF DEFAULT known_stores "glance.store.filesystem.Store, glance.store.http.Store, glance.store.swift.Store"18:38
SpamapSand in havana too18:38
SpamapSsdague: ok, so the defaults are not tested then. :P18:38
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sdagueyeh, not all defaults are tested. We try to push people towards defaults as much as possible in devstack18:39
sdagueagain, more eyes, helps :)18:39
sdagueI remember this issue circling recently, because they were blocked on the change for a long time with grenade18:40
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sdagueit looks like they just snuck that one through - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75827/18:40
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sdagueI think the root issue there is glance has no way to let you *add* to the default list18:41
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sdaguenone of this is perfect, but the reality is we have a ton of working infrastructure here where we could block things like this. And even when we have that, we miss things. So to get people realistic about what the tripleo gate is really going to catch, and how long it's going to take to get into a state where we'd like it block things18:43
sdaguefor instance, we were running grenade on every job for 9 months before we fully enforced it18:44
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annegentletellesnobrega: hi, where did you report the bug? API doc bugs are in https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site Also to look up where source is for HTML output, see https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Builds18:52
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SpamapSsdague: I think that we have a reasonable expectation of voting some time in juno's cycle18:53
SpamapSsdague: we have two regions now, and soon both regions will even have HA controllers so they won't go down when their motherboards go bad. ;)18:53
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sdagueSpamapS: but you require a non integrated project, Ironic18:54
SpamapSthat is _very_ temporary18:54
sdaguewhich isn't going to be integrated until at least K18:55
sdagueand by symetric policy, you don't get to vote by policy until K then18:55
SpamapSWhy can't it graduate in J again?18:55
sdagueand that's just policy, not the mechanics18:55
SpamapSsdague: because right now, we don't actually depend on it, but that is a "few days" situation.. we intend to switch very soon.18:56
sdagueSpamapS: honestly, I don't remember all the details, ask devananda18:56
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SpamapSIIRC it had to do with feature parity.18:56
devananda?18:56
sdagueSpamapS: and that's just the policy piece, not the provability piece18:56
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SpamapSAnd the only thing left in feature parity is having a nova driver.. which Ironic has in-tree now.18:56
SpamapSdevananda: why u no integrated?18:57
sdaguewhat I want to do is set reasonable expectations on when the tripleo gate will be materially blocking code from other projects18:57
sdagueand let you realize it's probably further away than you think18:57
sdagueso don't pass up enhancing existing systems to make your life easier18:57
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SpamapSsdague: This is not a question with an easy answer. Because one could argue that by putting our time into grenade, we are delaying TripleO's gating. :-/18:59
SpamapSbut one could also make a strong case for the opposite :-P18:59
sdagueSpamapS: yep, definitely agreed, no easy answers here18:59
* SpamapS -> tripleo meeting19:00
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devanandaSpamapS: surely you jest...19:00
sdagueand, I don't actually want to derail you on efforts19:00
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sdaguejust make sure to realize there is a bunch of incremental that could be done today that would improve the situation19:00
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SpamapSsdague: yeah, getting Heat in grenade seems like one that would definitely help us.19:01
sdagueyes, absolutely19:02
sdagueit's one of the reasons I flogged that one on the list19:02
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devanandaSpamapS: if ironic gradautes in J, it means ironic gets to vote on other projects at the start of K19:04
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SpamapSdevananda: Right.. o-k.. but this is TripleO's CI, not Ironic's19:05
lifelesszoresvit1: that was the bad setuptools release19:05
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SpamapSbut I get that TripleO + Ironic is sort of the same as Ironic only19:05
SpamapSsort of19:05
devanandaSpamapS: sdague: as far as why ironic no gradaute, the nova driver didn't land in I, and we are just approaching actual CI tests, so there's no confidence for it at this point19:05
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devanandaSpamapS: graduation now seems to depend on confidence in the CI of a project (it didn't when we applied and set our initial timelines)19:05
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SpamapSdevananda: I say we push now and try to graduate before I releases.19:06
SpamapSnot kidding19:06
devanandaSpamapS: I'd love that to happen19:06
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devanandaSpamapS: we need the devstack work that adam_g and agordeev and Shrews  are working on to be *done*19:06
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devanandaSpamapS: and the correlated tempest and infra work to make those jobs run19:06
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devanandaSpamapS: *and* the political agreement of the TC to go ahead with it, even though nova has blocked our driver from I19:07
sdagueI'll be fair, I don't see that happening in time19:07
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devanandaI think we can get the CI stuff in place19:09
SpamapSsdague: I think it is monumentally important19:09
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SpamapSgiven that I have been chasing breaking bugs for the last 9 days.19:09
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sdagueSpamapS: the experience I've seen with every CI effort is that it's about 3 months from first light to stabalization19:09
devanandaSpamapS: let me put it this way -- if we don't get CI for ironic, it's definitely not goign to happen.19:09
devanandaSpamapS: if we do, then it is a TC decision19:10
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sdagueSpamapS: right, this is why I brought up the incremental enhancements on existing tooling as an idea19:10
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sdagueI've been there on chasing breaking bugs19:10
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sdaguebecause if you go for too much all at once, it's racing on breaks forever19:11
devanandasdague: this also relates to the asymmetric issue i raised a few weeks back19:11
devanandasdague: ironic *will* be gated on everything else19:11
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devanandasdague: which means we, as a project, will be stuck playing catch-up with our own gate broken by other projects19:12
devanandafor all of the J cycle19:12
sdaguedevananda: yep, so it is19:12
SpamapSwe're there in tripleo already19:12
SpamapSso join our party devananda19:12
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tellesnobregaannegentle: i think i reported on the wrong place, im going to fix it19:12
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sdaguedevananda: the reality is you should be depending on documented behavior in other projects though, right?19:12
annegentletellesnobrega: no worries, you can move it from nova if needed19:12
sdagueso the behavior you care about can be locked down by enhancing testing for them defensively19:13
sdaguelike figure out the flows in keystone you need to not break, and make sure they are locked down in tempest19:13
sdaguethey are completely keystone tests19:13
devanandasdague: ironic will break if nova changes their internal driver API19:13
sdaguedevananda: well, that's not a guarunteed interface19:13
sdagueso that doesn't count19:13
devanandasdague: so what?19:14
tellesnobregaannegentle: here is the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/129085719:14
devanandano, it does19:14
sdaguedevananda: no, it really doesn't19:14
devanandasdague: ironic has a requirement to deprecatethe nova-bm driver19:14
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devanandaour project explicitly can't function without that19:14
devanandaor19:14
sdaguesure, and that has to be done inside of nova19:14
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devanandabut they've blocked it19:14
devanandaso we can't do it there19:14
sdaguefor I19:14
devanandaat least ,not in I19:14
sdaguewaiting on CI19:14
annegentletellesnobrega: ok, it'll help if you paste in the URL where you found this19:14
tellesnobregaok19:14
tellesnobregadone19:15
sdagueso I do get we have a chicken / egg issue here on CI for new drivers, they you guys are the first to fully hit the pain on. And we need to do better.19:15
devananda:)19:15
annegentletellesnobrega: such as, http://api.openstack.org/api-ref-compute.html or http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-compute/2/content/Get_Image_Details-d1e4848.html?19:15
sdaguebut we also need the brain power right now focussed on bugs for the I release (being past freeze)19:15
sdagueso we'll figure out some better path after that's wrapped up19:16
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tellesnobregaannegentle: the problem is i cant find where to change the path, i've looked all over and cant find19:19
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annegentletellesnobrega: did you mention where you found the problematic HTML? Otherwise I can't say for sure myself :)19:24
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tellesnobregaannegentle: i think now it should be complete19:31
annegentletellesnobrega: ok I'll triage on the bug itself19:32
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tellesnobregaannegentle: thanks19:33
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tqtranjoin #openstack-horizon20:39
tqtranops...20:39
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jgriffithany packstack experts about?20:40
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jgriffithI'm trying to find a way to run "old" versions of openstack with packstack20:41
jgriffithdon't know if it's posssible20:41
jgriffiththe other option would be if I could find a cloud image for Fedora17, but no luck there20:41
yjiang5hi, all , just wondering if anyone tried git review -R before? I have patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75552/ with changes added) based on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79319, and I try to work as https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gerrit_Workflow#Add_dependency . The git review -R will give me a long list of patch as in http://paste.openstack.org/show/73187/ . Can anyone give me a hint?20:41
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zzelleyjiang5, perharps i could help20:48
zzelleyjiang5, with or without git review20:48
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zzelleyjiang5, ping me when u r back20:52
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krotscheckAnyone here have a quick second? I'm relatively new to python (and pecan), and am trying to figure out why in def foo(value=0), value ends up as 'None'21:23
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clarkbayoung: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1182092 any chance we can get you to update that bug with more details? would be great to have that sort of testing, but we need more information21:53
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ayoungclarkb, will do.  On the phone now, will get it after22:04
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jaypipesgithub having issues...23:22
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