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| lyxus | cyeoh, You could just customize stack.sh | 06:46 |
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| cyeoh | lyxus: yea, though I know someone has already got a script :-) | 06:47 |
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| lyxus | cyeoh, I am working on something similar to speed up CI. Another option is this http://aheritier.net/clone-all-repositories-from-a-github-organization/ | 06:48 |
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| cyeoh | lyxus: thanks! | 06:49 |
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| bogdando | Hello. How can I make sure the patch accepted in Oslo-incubator (https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/904307) will be synced to other non-core or just not mentioned as affected projects? | 14:33 |
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| bogdando | I believe it should be synced to any project which using log.py | 14:34 |
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| dhellmann | bogdando: you could start a mailing list thread to let people know about the change | 14:35 |
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| dolphm | marekd: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1275695 | 14:54 |
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| marekd | dolphm: assigned to myself. | 14:55 |
| dolphm | marekd: thanks! | 14:55 |
| marekd | btw, got a minute to chat a little bit about creating federated tokens? | 14:56 |
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| jgriffit1 | raildo: what's up? RE Cinder? | 14:58 |
| marekd | dolphm: ^^? | 14:58 |
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| raildo | jgriffit1: I was studying about policy.json in cinder and realized that there is no concept of Domain within that service. I wonder if there is an interest that include domains. As it could, for example, there is a domain volume, or domain quotas. | 15:01 |
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| jgriffit1 | raildo: there's some discussion in progress around keystone's domains and how they're used in probjects | 15:07 |
| jgriffit1 | raildo: At the same time there's some folks looking at ACL's in Cinder | 15:08 |
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| jgriffit1 | raildo: I'd like to get a better picture on where all of this is going before implementing something | 15:08 |
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| viktors | dhellmann: hi | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | hi, viktors | 15:09 |
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| viktors | dhellmann: I want to ask a question about patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68693 (Don't use cfg.CONF in oslo.db). | 15:09 |
| viktors | dhellmann: This patch also moves all config options to a single file - Â 'openstack/common/db/options.py'. | 15:10 |
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| viktors | dhellmann: I don’t think, that we should keep these options file in oslo.db library. What's your opinion of it? | 15:10 |
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| dhellmann | viktors: where else would you put them? | 15:16 |
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| viktors | dhellmann: I'm really not sure about it. Either find an another place for it within oslo-incubator, or copy these options per projects | 15:19 |
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| dhellmann | viktors: well, the point of having the library is to stop copying stuff | 15:24 |
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| dhellmann | viktors: so it seems OK to have the config options used in one file in oslo.db, where an application that uses oslo.config can import them | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | viktors: no? | 15:24 |
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| viktors | dhellmann: yes, but I still have some doubt, that config stuff are related to db. | 15:27 |
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| dhellmann | viktors: those are configuration options useful for setting up the database connection, right? | 15:31 |
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| viktors | dhellmann: right | 15:32 |
| dhellmann | viktors: and we want all applications to use the same options, so we want only one copy of them | 15:32 |
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| dhellmann | viktors: we could have an oslo.dbconfig but that seems unnecessary | 15:32 |
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| viktors | dhellmann: yes, oslo.dbconfig seems to be overkill :) | 15:34 |
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| viktors | dhellmann: yes, I also suppose that oslo.db is the suitable place for config options, at the moment | 15:37 |
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| dolphm | marekd|meeting: btw, i'm back | 15:37 |
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| mriedem | are any other projects besides nova doing something like this sqlalchemy api retry_on_deadlock? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66527/ | 15:38 |
| mriedem | seems like something we should move to oslo | 15:38 |
| mriedem | bknudson: ^ | 15:38 |
| mriedem | jgriffit1: ^ | 15:38 |
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| viktors | mriedem: seems to be, that only Nova have this feature | 15:41 |
| bknudson | mriedem: I don't see any use of retry_on_deadlock in keystone. | 15:42 |
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| mriedem | ok, yeah, i don't see anything like it in oslo today either. i see that oslo checks for deadlocks when it wraps for errors, but doesn't do any retry logic like nova does. | 15:44 |
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| viktors | mriedem: you can add it to oslo :) | 15:45 |
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| bknudson | retry on deadlock seems kind of mistaken. Should be locking tables in the right order to avoid it. | 15:46 |
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| mriedem | viktors: i thought we generally only put things in oslo if more than one project needs the same common code? | 15:46 |
| mriedem | bknudson: yeah, my guess is it's a workaround to a bigger problem that was never fixed | 15:46 |
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| viktors | mriedem: yes it is. But we can also add to oslo code, that should be used in another projects. Anyway, we should solve an original issue instead of using of such "durty hack" | 15:49 |
| mriedem | yeah, i'm not going to propose it to oslo since smells a bit | 15:50 |
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| sdague | david-lyle: I tried to turn on -o errexit in devstack, so that we fail early when something goes wrong. It looks like we aren't calling horizon setup correctly | 15:51 |
| sdague | http://logs.openstack.org/48/70548/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/0d71f2b/console.html#_2014-02-01_21_50_33_605 | 15:51 |
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| viktors | dhellmann: When you’ll have a time, could you please look at patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63782/ (Use ContextFormatter for imparting context info). This patch already got your +2 at earlier patch sets. Thanks. | 15:52 |
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| dhellmann | viktors: sure thing | 15:56 |
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| david-lyle | sdague: looking | 15:56 |
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| sileht | dhellmann, markmc, I have updated and answered your questions about oslo.messaging and notification listener: http://bit.ly/1bdC7XS | 15:59 |
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| smcavoy | hello. I was wondering if anyone has experienced problems with horizon and multiple regions. As in if one region's services are down (say neutron, nova) the dashboard is totally broken. This seems like a serious problem... or I'm doing something wrong | 16:00 |
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| david-lyle | smcavoy: nova, keystone and glance are required services for Horizon, so if nova is down, yes that is a serious problem | 16:02 |
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| david-lyle | smcavoy: it is a semi-trivial fix to make nova and glance optional services. The downside is you will have no renderable content in Horizon | 16:04 |
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| ik__ | I am just new to openstack and I want to contribute to cinder part of openstack...any leads on how to get started? | 16:04 |
| david-lyle | smcavoy: unless you only want swift | 16:05 |
| smcavoy | david-lyle: the problem is when 1 region's nova/neutron are down horizon is broken. the other region's nova/etc. is up | 16:05 |
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| david-lyle | should only be broken when that region is selected | 16:06 |
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| david-lyle | smcavoy: but as the region selector is currenntly buried in Project or admin and the overview page throws an exception, you have no method to change region | 16:07 |
| smcavoy | david-lyle: doesn't seem to be the case. once I add a nova endpoint to a new region that isn't accessible you're not able to login to horizon. upon removal of the end point its fine to login again. | 16:07 |
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| david-lyle | smcavoy: do you have the exception? | 16:08 |
| david-lyle | odd, that you can't log in | 16:08 |
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| smcavoy | david-lyle: I'd have to recreate it but its production so that'd a nono right now | 16:13 |
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| david-lyle | smcavoy: sure, I'm just curious because the way we run Horizon, nova is not required and works fine with the minimal changes I mentioned before. | 16:15 |
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| smcavoy | david-lyle: do you have details on the changes that need to be made? | 16:23 |
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| david_lyle | smcavoy: I edited the permissions field in the the panel.py for all the panels to check for the service they depend on. Neutron panels have a similar check. | 16:24 |
| david_lyle | to model from | 16:24 |
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| david_lyle | smcavoy: the second part is going to be changing the default panel to something that's always there. That would be unique to you environment I imagine | 16:26 |
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| smcavoy | david_lyle: cool. thanks! | 16:27 |
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| david_lyle | smcavoy: np, ping me if you have further questions | 16:28 |
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| stevemar2 | bknudson, question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70200/ | 16:38 |
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| stevemar2 | bknudson, happy with just changing up the commit msg, or you want them split up into 2 patches? | 16:39 |
| ayoung | dolphm, how's this for explaining a review request: http://adam.younglogic.com/2014/02/efficient-revocation-checking/ | 16:39 |
| ewindisch | dtroyer: if you're around -- I'm thinking of adding a capability to mask package installation in devstack. | 16:40 |
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| tellesnobrega | dolphm: hi, i was reading the meeting on hierarchical multi-tenancy and i stumbled on this sentence that you said: "admin domain" and "admin tenant" are terrible hacks that need to die a brutal death | 16:52 |
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| dtroyer | ewindisch: what does that look like? | 16:52 |
| tellesnobrega | i would like to know why they are so bad | 16:52 |
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| ewindisch | dtroyer: that's the question. I have two use-cases, and I think the right solutions are different for both. | 16:53 |
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| ewindisch | dtroyer: one use-case is ARM support. I'm thinking of adding a "# arch:" comment to the apt files, like we have for "# dist:" currently | 16:53 |
| ewindisch | I think that's fairly straight-forward. | 16:53 |
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| ewindisch | dtroyer: use-case #2 is that I'm installing devstack inside a docker 'build'. We can't access stuff in /dev, which wasn't a problem until Russell added libguestfs as a dependency on Friday -- libguestfs requries 'fuse', which insists on doing things during installation that are illegal instructions in our security context. | 16:55 |
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| ewindisch | dtroyer: more specifically, I'm running 'install-prereqs.sh' from the build. Basically, we pre-install the packages in the image, then devstack runs on launch of the image - which runs install-prereqs.sh again. | 16:56 |
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| bknudson | stevemar2: I don't know why that change is there so I can't say if it should be in a separate commit. | 16:58 |
| ewindisch | dtroyer: so what I'd want to do in that case is have an environment var that can simply mask arbitrary packages. We'd mask libguestfs during the initial run of install-prereqs.sh and then it would be installed on image boot | 16:58 |
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| dtroyer | ewindisch: off the top o'my head, could you do arch with #dist: precise-armv71 for example? it doesn't scale so well but I wouldn't expect the same number of distros to be supported on arm | 16:59 |
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| ewindisch | dtroyer: in this case we'd actually be marking packages to only install on x86 or at least !arm | 17:00 |
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| dtroyer | ewindisch: the libguestfs thing bugs me too, not the least of which is because that damn thing hasn't worked for me in many places… maybe the right thing for that specifically is to NOPRME it and then addit in lib/nova as required? | 17:00 |
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| stevemar2 | bknudson, i guess the commit should explain the code changes, then say that i also added tests | 17:00 |
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| dtroyer | ewindisch: I've wanted to add !<distro> to the #dist handler for a while… | 17:01 |
| bknudson | stevemar2: that makes sense. | 17:01 |
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| dtroyer | ewindisch: but #arch is probably a better long-term solution | 17:02 |
| ewindisch | dtroyer: yeah, my issue with arm is more about !dist, tbh. open-iscsi should work on arm, but there just wasn't a package when I last checked. | 17:02 |
| bknudson | stevemar2: also, you don't need to say that you added tests for a change... that's obvious from the fact that there are tests in the change. | 17:02 |
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| ewindisch | dtroyer: so maybe you're right, maybe it should be a "distro/arch" since it might be a matter of that package not being on that distro/arch combination, rather than a specific architecture limitation | 17:02 |
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| dtroyer | ewindisch: for the case you have now I think that's the simplest solution | 17:03 |
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| stevemar2 | bknudson, i clearly need to put more thought into the commit msgs :\ or not create them at 2am or later... | 17:03 |
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| ewindisch | fyi, here are the arm-compat changes I did *last year* - https://github.com/ewindisch/raspi-devstack/commit/dfc35f2c026bc7bbb12106a90c4df56825ed6b60 | 17:04 |
| ewindisch | some or all of those changes are probably no longer necessary | 17:04 |
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| dtroyer | all but the lxc bit is distro-specific stuff | 17:04 |
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| ewindisch | dtroyer: right. | 17:05 |
| ewindisch | dtroyer: or arm+distro stuff, anyway | 17:05 |
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| ewindisch | dtroyer: anyway, the libguestfs thing is much more pressing | 17:05 |
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| ewindisch | dtroyer: so for that, I'd add '# NOPRIME' and have libguestfs install from lib/nova ? | 17:08 |
| dtroyer | ewindisch: yeah…I'm looking to see where it should be installed at... | 17:08 |
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| ewindisch | dtroyer: configure_nova, no? | 17:09 |
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| ewindisch | er, or install_nova | 17:09 |
| dtroyer | ewindisch: yes...I'm thinking it should go inside the LIBVIRT_TYPE=kvm block just after where the inject_partition is set | 17:10 |
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| ewindisch | dtroyer: would it not apply to all libvirt drivers? | 17:11 |
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| dtroyer | ewindisch: assuming that anyone still using bare lxc would also not want it? | 17:11 |
| dtroyer | ewindisch: I'm not sure tabout that…also, I don't know if the basre lxc config still works anyway, we havne't tested it in a long time | 17:11 |
| dtroyer | ewindisch: ok, so put it right after the inject_partition setting then | 17:12 |
| dtroyer | ewindisch: wait... | 17:12 |
| ewindisch | dtroyer: that's in 'configure' though, shouldn't it be in install? | 17:12 |
| ewindisch | I'd make a new [ VIRT_DRIVER = libvirt ] under install, I think | 17:13 |
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| dtroyer | ewindisch: yup...exactly | 17:13 |
| dtroyer | ewindisch: I'm also thinking through the grenade ramifications... | 17:14 |
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| dtroyer | ewindisch: ok, that'l work fine | 17:15 |
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| ewindisch | ty | 17:16 |
| ewindisch | https://review.openstack.org/70774 | 17:16 |
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| viktors | bnemec: Hello. Could you spare a couple minutes and look at rpodolyaka's patches, related to oslo.db? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo-incubator+branch:master+topic:remove_global_engine,n,z Thanks a lot! | 17:19 |
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| bnemec | viktors: Yeah, I'll take a look. | 17:21 |
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| viktors | bnemec: thanks :) | 17:25 |
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| dtroyer | ewindisch: close…a couple of small things to cover the fedora case and put it in the plugin | 17:27 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: hi, do you why dolphm said ""admin domain" and "admin tenant" are terrible hacks that need to die a brutal death" in the hierarchical multi-tenancy meeting? | 17:51 |
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| raildo | jgriffit1: ping | 17:56 |
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| tellesnobrega | anyone from neutron here? | 17:56 |
| roaet | tellesnobrega: howdy | 17:56 |
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| tellesnobrega | roaet: hi, im doing some studying in multi-tenancy in neutron, so i figured that there is a project isolation and that is controllable by the policy.json | 17:57 |
| tellesnobrega | but there isn't a domain isolation, since the concept of domain is not present in neutron | 17:58 |
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| roaet | hrm. | 17:58 |
| roaet | I believe you successfully asked a question I don't know how to answer honestly. | 17:58 |
| roaet | BUT | 17:58 |
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| roaet | I can direct you to #openstack-neutron channel | 17:58 |
| tellesnobrega | roaet: thanks | 17:58 |
| roaet | Where there are a lot more people who can help you there heh | 17:58 |
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| ayoung | tellesnobrega, because they are. | 18:02 |
| ayoung | tellesnobrega, can you explain what they mean? | 18:03 |
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| ayoung | admin domain is "one domain to rule them all" | 18:03 |
| ayoung | same with "admin tenant" | 18:03 |
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| ayoung | I can't see a way around having one or the other, but it is kindof nasty | 18:03 |
| tellesnobrega | ayoung: i get it, he is not talking about one user being a domain admin, but about the concept of existing a domain that rules it all | 18:04 |
| ayoung | tellesnobrega, I think so, yeah | 18:04 |
| ayoung | the thing is, you need a way to add new domains | 18:04 |
| ayoung | and add admins for a new domain | 18:04 |
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| ayoung | and to remove domains | 18:04 |
| ayoung | so there needs to be some "I'm better than you" domain out there | 18:05 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: i get it now, we had a discussion about this a while back with coworkers | 18:05 |
| ayoung | and users with the role to create and destroy domains | 18:05 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg_Z, how does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60741/14 support non-expiring keys? Is this just the mechanism, and the actual impl is in another commit? | 18:29 |
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| ayoung | ah...I was looking for another Class for the mangler | 18:32 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: dstanek: do you know what the difference is between WSGIImportScript and WSGIDaemonProcess ? | 18:47 |
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| bknudson | and whether it makes a difference which one you use when run keystone in httpd | 18:47 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, Um...not | 18:49 |
| ayoung | not off the top of my head | 18:49 |
| ayoung | bknudson, You can google as well as I, what have you found? | 18:49 |
| bknudson | ayoung: I see that our devstack setup uses WSGIDaemonProcess | 18:49 |
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| bknudson | it doesn't say much about WSGIImportScript. I'll see if I can give it a try | 18:50 |
| ayoung | bknudson, I'm guessing the other is more of a CGI style | 18:50 |
| ayoung | bknudson, I think they are separate config options. One says where the WSGI script lives, the other is for configuring the process that runs it.... | 18:51 |
| ayoung | but looking | 18:51 |
| dstanek | bknudson: i believe the WSGIImportScript is an inprocess Python interpreter and WSGIDaemonProcess is not | 18:51 |
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| ayoung | http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/ConfigurationDirectives#WSGIDaemonProcess | 18:52 |
| ayoung | http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/ConfigurationDirectives#WSGIScriptAlias | 18:52 |
| notmyname | ayoung: I'm somewhat concerned about the v3 catalog-in-headers stuff I've been hearing about. I was hoping you could tell me what the options are | 18:52 |
| ayoung | http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/ConfigurationDirectives#WSGIImportScript | 18:52 |
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| notmyname | ayoung: ie, besides just increasing the allowed header size | 18:53 |
| ayoung | notmyname, increate you header size | 18:53 |
| ayoung | notmyname, I just filed BP to support compression but won';t be in icehouse | 18:53 |
| notmyname | ayoung: so here's my concern: when you've got millions or billions of objects in swift that are about 50k each (eg see the spil games openstack mailing list posts), adding 10k to every request is a really significant overhead | 18:54 |
| ayoung | notmyname, shrink your catalog? Filter your catalog by endpoint, don't ask for a catalog, increase header size, switch to UUID tokens, switch the Eucalyptus, run on VMware vCloud, swich to a IBM Mainframe. You have lots of options | 18:54 |
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| ayoung | notmyname, as oppposed to increasing the number of requests across the network> | 18:54 |
| ayoung | ? | 18:54 |
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| ayoung | notmyname, tokens are running at about 9K | 18:54 |
| notmyname | ayoung: so it's those first 2 I'm curious about | 18:54 |
| ayoung | headers are set at 8K | 18:55 |
| ayoung | you don;t need to make them Huge, just large neough to carry the catalog | 18:55 |
| ayoung | "neough" the Gaelic spelling of the Hero from Matrix. Woagh! | 18:55 |
| notmyname | :-) | 18:55 |
| notmyname | ayoung: tell me more about not asking for the catalog. I'm wondering if there are some | 18:55 |
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| notmyname | ayoung: tell me more about not asking for the catalog. I'm wondering if there are some config options we need to change in swift's sample configs | 18:56 |
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| ayoung | notmyname, well, it does mean that you don';t have a service catalog. That might be suboptimal | 18:56 |
| ayoung | notmyname, its a config file option on the server side...look in keystone/common/config.py I think | 18:56 |
| notmyname | ayoung: I contend that a 20% increase in the request size is subobtimal | 18:56 |
| notmyname | ayoung: ah, so not something that is set in the auth token middleware? | 18:57 |
| ayoung | notmyname, I don't think you have a "optimal" to compare that to. | 18:57 |
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| ayoung | notmyname, and if the user makes a request with a token larger than header size? | 18:57 |
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| gyee | notmyname, if you are using auth_token middleware, you can set the include_service_option to False | 18:58 |
| gyee | see https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/master/keystoneclient/middleware/auth_token.py#L297 | 18:58 |
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| gyee | but then you'll have to use the Keystone v3 endpoint for that to work | 18:58 |
| ayoung | notmyname, its an option that the user passes when requesting a token | 18:59 |
| notmyname | gyee: and if it's set on a non-v3 endpoint? | 18:59 |
| gyee | then you'll still get the catalog | 18:59 |
| ayoung | notmyname, you want the larger header size to handle user requests. | 18:59 |
| gyee | notmyname, well, the catalog header won't be set | 18:59 |
| ayoung | You can optimize them away, but you want to be able to handle them if they come int | 19:00 |
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| ayoung | into the server | 19:00 |
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| ayoung | notmyname, you can't escpae the extra traffic. All you can do is push it around the system. If you do UUID tokens, the service catalog comes back when you validate the token | 19:01 |
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| notmyname | ayoung: I'm not arguing that point. I'm simply trying to figure out the best things to make keystone work well with swift out of the box | 19:01 |
| gyee | notmyname, that option is applicable to both v2 and v3 | 19:01 |
| gyee | the X-Service-Catalog header will not get set | 19:01 |
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| gyee | the other alternative is to use the Keystone endpoint filtering extension | 19:02 |
| ayoung | notmyname, https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3-os-ep-filter-ext.md | 19:03 |
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| ayoung | gah! We need internal anchors for the Identity API. | 19:04 |
| ayoung | gyee, is there some place it is posted that has a Table of Contenst? | 19:04 |
| ayoung | https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md/token is just hostile | 19:04 |
| dolphm | notmyname: if swift doesn't use the service catalog (and I don't think it does?), i recommend setting include_service_catalog = False; there's not much else to consider | 19:04 |
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| notmyname | dolphm: ya, it looks like that is recommended already in the swift sample config (https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/etc/proxy-server.conf-sample#L281) | 19:05 |
| notmyname | dolphm: thanks | 19:05 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md#tokens-1 ? | 19:05 |
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| ayoung | notmyname, https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md#catalog-opt-out-post-v3authtokensnocatalog | 19:05 |
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| gyee | ayoung, I wish there's a TOC somewhere | 19:05 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, yeah, there internal anchors are there....we just need a table of contents | 19:06 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, the markdown transform to HTML done in the identity API compile produces a TOC, its just not part of the github transform | 19:06 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: if we want to publish to api.openstack.org or something, the doc team can help with that | 19:07 |
| harlowja | is freenode acting up for people (or is it just me?) | 19:07 |
| ayoung | dolphm, that would be swell | 19:07 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I suspect, though, that I can generate what I need by screenscraping :P | 19:08 |
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| notmyname | harlowja: there was a ddos against freenode recently | 19:08 |
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| harlowja | notmyname thx, was wondering what was up (everythinh really slow) | 19:10 |
| harlowja | was lucky i got on :-P | 19:10 |
| notmyname | harlowja: I really don't know much more than that, but I'm seeing slowness too. I saw on twitter that there were IRC problems, and that's the full extent of what' I know | 19:11 |
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| ayoung | gyee, http://paste.fedoraproject.org/74022/54967139/ | 19:16 |
| ayoung | dolphm, ^^ comes from lynx -dump -listonly https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md | grep \# | fpaste | 19:16 |
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| gyee | ayoung, nice | 19:19 |
| gyee | but its a flat list | 19:19 |
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| ayoung | gyee, yep, and no context. but probably all I need | 19:24 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69084/3/keystone/tests/test_notifications.py the answer to your question: because we force a disable before a delete.... | 19:28 |
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| dstanek | ayoung: so you can't delete a domain that isn't disabled? | 19:30 |
| ayoung | dstanek, that is correct | 19:30 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, and we talked about doing the same across the board | 19:30 |
| dstanek | ayoung: do we have a test for that case? | 19:30 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, not in the notify code | 19:31 |
| ayoung | it would be in the assignment tests | 19:31 |
| ayoung | I think test_v3_somethingorother | 19:31 |
| dstanek | ayoung: nm, i didn't realize i was looking at test_notifications.py | 19:31 |
| dstanek | ayoung: what's the value of forcing it to be disabled first? | 19:31 |
| ayoung | dstanek, when yoiu delete, all of the resources are gone | 19:32 |
| ayoung | deleted | 19:32 |
| ayoung | bereft of life they rest in peace | 19:32 |
| ayoung | they've shuffled off their mortal coil | 19:32 |
| ayoung | run down the curtain | 19:32 |
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| ayoung | and off to join the bleeding choir invisbule | 19:32 |
| ayoung | they are ex resources | 19:32 |
| dstanek | ayoung: so if forcing a delete the equivalent to the "are you sure?" dialog box? :-) | 19:33 |
| ayoung | yep | 19:33 |
| dstanek | forcing a disable that is | 19:33 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, question is what to do about "change password" | 19:35 |
| ayoung | do I make that its own notification? | 19:36 |
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| dstanek | ayoung: that's a good question; almost feels like it should | 19:47 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, question is whether anything would need it besides my code | 19:56 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: dstanek: ok, after looking at this for a while, I don't think WSGIImportScript is appropriate for keystone's httpd scripts. | 20:05 |
| ayoung | bknudson, rationale? | 20:06 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: I believe WSGIImportScript is supposed to be used to pre-load some parts when apache starts... to speed it up | 20:06 |
| ayoung | ++ | 20:07 |
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| bknudson | but keystone's scripts actually "do stuff" -- so you wouldn't want to import it just to speed it up | 20:07 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, I'm still not 100% certain out code is sane when executed on Pache. We do a lot of stuff in eventlet that assumes it will be run once, but it gets run once per request in HTTPD. If that stuff could be run once pre-fork, it might be really powerful | 20:07 |
| bknudson | I suspect there's other parts of keystone that you could import to speed it up... essentially the keystone library. | 20:08 |
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| ayoung | We should start a BP around that | 20:08 |
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| bknudson | I'll do a little more investigation here and try to put together something that could be WSGIImported... it'll have a bunch of import keystone.whatevers. | 20:09 |
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| ayoung | kewl | 20:10 |
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| ayoung | YorikSar, this code review is awesome. Thanks https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69531/8/keystone/contrib/revoke/model.py | 20:17 |
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| dstanek | bknudson, ayoung: are *Script and *Daemon mostly the same expect that *Daemon is not in the Apache process? | 20:18 |
| dstanek | s/expect/except/ | 20:18 |
| dstanek | bknudson, ayoung: that was my understanding | 20:18 |
| bknudson | dstanek: you need a WSGIDaemonProcess to use WSGIScriptAlias | 20:18 |
| bknudson | dstanek: if you use WSGIScriptAlias without WSGIDaemonProcess startup says "WSGI process group not yet configured." | 20:20 |
| dolphm | bknudson: i'm ready to release https://launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+milestone/0.5.0 to get keystoneclient.middleware.s3_token out there; any reason to wait? (cc- ayoung, dstanek, jamielennox, morganfainberg, stevemar, gyee, henrynash) | 20:20 |
| bknudson | dolphm: I can't think of any reason to wait... I haven't seen any reviews from jamielennox|away this time saying they should get in before it's released. | 20:21 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, I'd wait until Jamie was awake and ask him. He'll be on board in a few hours | 20:22 |
| dstanek | dolphm: i have no reason not to release | 20:22 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i poked him on friday actually | 20:23 |
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| ayoung | If he's good, I;m good. I do not have any additional changes that I think we should wait for. | 20:23 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: what are you trying to do with apache? | 20:24 |
| bknudson | dstanek: one of our products here runs keystone in apache and they complained that with the changes in keystone/httpd their setup wasn't working anymore. | 20:25 |
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| ayoung | which change bknudson ? | 20:26 |
| bknudson | dstanek ayoung: I had changed keystone.config to not do config.configure() on import, and moved that into the startup ... in keystone-all and httpd | 20:26 |
| dstanek | bknudson: do you have an error msg/code or a trimmed down config that doesn't work? | 20:26 |
| ayoung | ah | 20:26 |
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| bknudson | and now when they import it says you can't configure (define the same option) twice. | 20:27 |
| dstanek | bknudson: is it possible that configure is being called twice? | 20:27 |
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| bknudson | dstanek: yes, now configure is called twice... I think before since it was "import"ed that python would ensure it only happened once. | 20:28 |
| bknudson | dstanek: I don't think it's a valid thing to do to import those scripts, because they do stuff. | 20:28 |
| dstanek | bknudson: i swear that when i was helpin marek with Apache configuration that i had that error too | 20:29 |
| dstanek | bknudson: i don't remember why though | 20:29 |
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| bknudson | dstanek: ayoung: http://paste.openstack.org/show/62400/ | 20:32 |
| bknudson | dstanek: that's the config -- just WSGIImport both the scripts. | 20:32 |
| bknudson | in the same process group | 20:32 |
| dstanek | bknudson: ah, yeah; anything running like that would be a problem :-) | 20:33 |
| bknudson | dstanek: I think we could provide a script that could be imported to make any first-time startup of the wsgi process faster... | 20:34 |
| dstanek | bknudson: how could you make it faster? | 20:35 |
| bknudson | dstanek: it just pre-imports stuff... essentially the keystone code. | 20:35 |
| dstanek | bknudson: isn't that happening anyway when the script it loaded? | 20:36 |
| bknudson | dstanek: apache doesn't start doing the imports until the first request. | 20:37 |
| bknudson | so that first request can take longer | 20:37 |
| bknudson | I mean it doesn't run the keystone script until the first request... so doesn't do the imports until then. | 20:37 |
| bknudson | and maybe it would be better to do the configure() and log config and whatever else could be done on import rather than on first request. | 20:38 |
| dstanek | bknudson: the docs say that the script is loaded before the first request | 20:38 |
| bknudson | dstanek: which one? | 20:38 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: jas, maybe i'm reading this wrong | 20:41 |
| bknudson | dstanek: I added some debug that prints when the script is run, and it doesn't run until my first request... and then it runs again on the 2nd request... | 20:41 |
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| bknudson | it seems to be kind of random if/when the script is run. | 20:42 |
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| dims | dhellmann_, ping | 20:44 |
| dhellmann_ | dims: poing | 20:44 |
| dhellmann_ | er, pong | 20:44 |
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| dims | dhellmann, looks like oslo.vmware will need some files from oslo-incubator. where would they live? (example for Nova we have the nova.openstack.common for the shared files) | 20:46 |
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| gyee | dolphm, go for it, I am updating s3 and ec2 middleware to make use of the signature auth plugin, they can go in the next release | 20:46 |
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| dims | dhellmann, so should it be (oslo.openstack.common) or (oslo.vmware.openstack.common)? | 20:46 |
| dhellmann | dims: oslo/vmware/openstack/common/... | 20:46 |
| dhellmann | dims: which files are they using? | 20:47 |
| dims | log/gettextutils etc | 20:47 |
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| dhellmann | ok | 20:47 |
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| dims | dhellmann, not sure if update.sh/py supports the 2 level name. will have to try | 20:48 |
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| dhellmann | dims: can you add oslo.vmware to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/GraduationStatus with its dependencies? I'm going to add oslo.config and oslo.messaging, too | 20:48 |
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| dhellmann | dims: I think we're doing something similar for oslo.messaging | 20:48 |
| dims | k will peek | 20:49 |
| dhellmann | yeah, looks like if you set "base=oslo.vmware" it will do the right thing | 20:49 |
| dims | cool. another one, can i merge the reviews that are already there or we wait for infra | 20:49 |
| dhellmann | which reviews? | 20:49 |
| dims | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo-incubator+branch:master+topic:bp/vmware-api,n,z | 20:50 |
| dhellmann | oh, no, we want to bypass the incubator entirely for this library | 20:50 |
| dhellmann | so all of those should be resubmitted against the new repository | 20:50 |
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| dims | agree. i was not inclined to | 20:51 |
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| zzelle | ho | 21:52 |
| zzelle | if i publish a draft in gerrit, does jenkins verifies it ? | 21:52 |
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| stevemar2 | zzelle, jenkins won't run if your patch is in draft | 22:10 |
| zzelle | but i publish it | 22:10 |
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| stevemar2 | zzelle, then it should run | 22:11 |
| zzelle | stevemar2, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70746/ | 22:11 |
| zzelle | stevemar2, perhaps i miss something (i am a draft master) | 22:12 |
| zzelle | s/i am/i am not/ | 22:12 |
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| zzelle | perhaps, jenkins is overloaded | 22:14 |
| zzelle | ? | 22:14 |
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| chmouel | dolphm: what is jamie's irc handle? | 22:29 |
| chmouel | dolphm: Jamie Lennox | 22:30 |
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| lbragstad | chmouel: jamielennox|away | 22:30 |
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| chmouel | lbragstad: thanks | 22:30 |
| lbragstad | yep | 22:30 |
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| chmouel | jamielennox|away: I just uploaded https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70859/ | 22:30 |
| chmouel | I am not sure if you were planning to do it yourself | 22:31 |
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| jamielennox | chmouel: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70647/ :) | 22:52 |
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| jamielennox | hmm, not sure why the bug didn't get linked to the review | 22:53 |
| jamielennox | that happened with something recently as well | 22:53 |
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| chmouel | ah no worries | 22:54 |
| chmouel | i'll just abandon mine | 22:54 |
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| chmouel | i think the closes-bug stuff is not workig these days | 22:55 |
| jamielennox | chmouel: do we need the get_system_ca_file thing? i was thinking that was handled these days | 22:55 |
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| chmouel | jamielennox: when you say these days you mean requests>2.0 ? | 22:56 |
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| jamielennox | not sure, i was thinking that openssl had those hacks | 22:56 |
| jamielennox | but there is something in requests | 22:56 |
| chmouel | humm maybe i'll have to check | 22:57 |
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| chmouel | tristanC: ^^ | 22:57 |
| jamielennox | chmouel: hmm, just looks for REQUEST_CA_BUNDLE and CURL_CA_BUNDLE | 22:57 |
| jamielennox | https://github.com/kennethreitz/requests/blob/master/requests/sessions.py#L374 | 22:57 |
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| chmouel | jamielennox: yeah right, I guess we just do a litle bit more | 22:58 |
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| chmouel | jamielennox: i think we should move that to oslo and maybe add this later when merged? | 22:58 |
| jamielennox | i was under the impression that something was linking into openssl for this stuff | 22:58 |
| jamielennox | chmouel: yea, sounds good - mine was a very straight conversion, nothing new | 22:58 |
| jamielennox | if that's something we need then it should go to oslo because there are plenty of other places that need it | 22:59 |
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| chmouel | jamielennox: sounds good | 23:00 |
| chmouel | jamielennox: devstack head was completely broken with swift3/s3token did you functionally test this ? | 23:01 |
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| chmouel | (i have sent a few patches for it) | 23:01 |
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| jamielennox | chmouel: no, this was the first time i've ever looked through this code and i'm surprised it worked at all | 23:01 |
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| chmouel | jamielennox: oh yeah it works even on production clouds, it's a hack but it does work :) | 23:02 |
| jamielennox | there appears to be no v3 api equivalent for it so i'm inclined to let it die | 23:02 |
| jamielennox | but yea apparently there are some users | 23:02 |
| jamielennox | there is ec2 tokens in keystone as well which should be moved but we don't know of any userse | 23:03 |
| chmouel | yeah i tried to killl it one or two years ago and there was bunch of users yelling at me | 23:03 |
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| chmouel | jamielennox: nova needs that for ec2 API right ? | 23:03 |
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| jamielennox | chmouel: https://github.com/kennethreitz/requests/blob/master/requests/certs.py so they isolate it for packagers but it wouldn't work with pip | 23:04 |
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| jamielennox | chmouel: i'm not sure - i didn't realize that nova maintained the ec2 api anymore | 23:05 |
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| chmouel | jamielennox: oh yeah it does and it's actually builtin inside nova | 23:05 |
| chmouel | the s3 API for swift is not built inside swift | 23:06 |
| chmouel | jamielennox: tbh we should move the s3token code to the swift3 repo | 23:06 |
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| jamielennox | yea there is a swift3 or something package where his was all to be moved to | 23:06 |
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| chmouel | I have just sent a bug report to ask the maint if we can move this repo to stackforge | 23:06 |
| jamielennox | so both s3 and ec2 are in the keystone default pipeline | 23:06 |
| jamielennox | swift3? | 23:07 |
| chmouel | yeah swift3 | 23:07 |
| chmouel | I don't think it should be in the default keystone pipeline | 23:07 |
| jamielennox | yea, really should be on stackforge if this is where we expect people to consume them from | 23:07 |
| notmyname | chmouel: +1 | 23:07 |
| jamielennox | chmouel: I agree | 23:08 |
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| chmouel | (I am actually the one who put that in the default pipeline but those were other times 8-)) | 23:08 |
| jamielennox | we've all done things we regret :) | 23:09 |
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| jamielennox | i'm not sure we've ever actually removed anything from the default pipeline, i don't know what sort of deprecation procedure we'd need for that | 23:09 |
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| chmouel | I don't think that matter much? except for devstack I think | 23:10 |
| jamielennox | i can only assume that because its on my default that it's considered part of the API | 23:10 |
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| chmouel | so the middleware in the default pipeline define the API? | 23:10 |
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| notmyname | jamielennox: swift3 is simply a ecosystem project. it's not managed by openstack at all | 23:11 |
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| jamielennox | i'm not sure, but keystone's relationship with it's middleware is kind of weird | 23:11 |
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| chmouel | :) it's all termie's fault | 23:11 |
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| chmouel | and it's not fun to talk about him when he's not on the channel | 23:11 |
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| jamielennox | it'd be a nice thing to fix but a hard thing to keep for compatability | 23:13 |
| chmouel | notmyname: yeah i always told client that the s3 API emulation is a best effort support basis kind of thing | 23:13 |
| jamielennox | chmouel: i heard a thing a while ago that the chosen approach was a new service that would be AWS compatable and convert from there to OS - that seemed the best idea i'd heard but no idea what happened to that | 23:14 |
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| chmouel | jamielennox: I think the ubnutu guys did that awesome proxy service | 23:15 |
| chmouel | but i think it got abandoned | 23:15 |
| chmouel | s/ubuntu/canonical/ | 23:15 |
| jamielennox | yea, awesome sounds right | 23:15 |
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| jamielennox | i didn't hear it got abandoned, it would be a hard thing to do | 23:15 |
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| chmouel | you basically spend your time doing screen scraping for API | 23:16 |
| chmouel | https://launchpad.net/awsome | 23:16 |
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| chmouel | didn't get much action since 2012 | 23:17 |
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| jamielennox | yea, that's a shame | 23:18 |
| jamielennox | it's not something i think we should in general support in core services - but something that would be a nice thing to have for migrating | 23:18 |
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| chmouel | yeah definitively just for user convenience, it's suprising how many people absolutely wants AWS api when deploying a cloud (private or public) | 23:20 |
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| jamielennox | wow, they built it on twisted though - i get the idea but that would be really hard to incubate | 23:22 |
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| chmouel | I think the canonical guys are fan of twisted :) | 23:23 |
| chmouel | well anyway it's time for me to go to sleep | 23:23 |
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| jamielennox | chmouel: no worries, thatnks for having a go at that anyway | 23:34 |
| jamielennox | and let me know what comes of moving the ca functions | 23:34 |
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