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bknudsonjamielennox: Keystone's client test all seem to authenticate with every test (sometimes multiple times)00:10
jamielennoxbknudson: really? ok - i mean it will still work it's just some extra load00:11
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dstanekstevemar: o/00:57
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pabelangerFinally01:04
pabelangermade _little_ progress with keystone policy.v301:04
pabelangerincoming patch for python-openstackclient01:04
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stevemardstanek: just wanted to ask something quickly...01:15
stevemardstanek, re: debug env for tox, was wondering if you are accounting for the comment you made earlier, about running multiple instances on a single machine01:15
stevemardstanek, but i think -d in mktemp takes care of that too01:16
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stevemardstanek, let me know if you're certain, please :)01:16
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dstanekstevemar: yes the mktemp -d will create a unique temp directory each time01:20
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stevemardstanek - cool, just double checkin, +1!01:21
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dstanekstevemar: great thanks!01:22
dstaneki've been using this patch a lot in the last few days - very useful01:22
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stevemardstanek - o yeah, super useful01:25
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stan_ivanovHello guys, I have a nova extension and I need to store some small data when a user calls the extension. How can I do that?07:50
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k4n0stan_ivanov: do you want to store data in db?07:50
stan_ivanovyes07:51
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stan_ivanovk4n0: can I write directly to the mysql db?07:53
k4n0stan_ivanov: never seen a extension do a db call, why dont you do this from the controller?07:54
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stan_ivanovk4n0: how can I do that from the controller? can you give me some resources?07:55
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k4n0stan_ivanov: what resource is the extension for?07:56
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stan_ivanovk4n0: It is something like automation of creating vms and volumes and I want to be able to save some configurations in db - for example "conf1" : "large + 3 2gb" disks so later I can call the extension and say: "spawn 10 instances from conf1"08:02
k4n0stan_ivanov: ohh, i understand, you will need to create a new model in sqlalchemy and expose that db call via nova api if you want to call it from your extension. I dont think you store these "confs" in any of the current models.08:05
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k4n0stan_ivanov: btw, arent these confs similar to flavors?08:06
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stan_ivanovk4n0: not quite, it's a very specific case08:07
k4n0stan_ivanov: ok, i have not seen db calls being made from extensions, and i feel that they shouldnt be made. You will have to expose the new model via nova compute api maybe08:08
stan_ivanovk4n0: thanks for the anwer, can you point some helpful resources about how can I implement that with sqlalchemy?08:08
stan_ivanovk4n0: yes, exposing via the api sound reasonable08:09
k4n0https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/models.py08:10
k4n0stan_ivanov: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py08:10
k4n0stan_ivanov: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py08:10
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lariwhats the best to retrieve tenant name in openstack neutron? (in code)08:55
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markmcclainttx: here10:49
ttxmarkmcclain: o/10:49
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ttxso, icehouse-2 now10:50
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ttxhttps://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/icehouse-210:50
markmcclainI need to clean up the priorities of several BPs10:50
ttxmarkmcclain: yep, all undefined should be prioritized10:50
markmcclainI'll straighten that up this afternoon10:50
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ttxmarkmcclain: should I mark the two by Sylvain "not started", or you know better ?10:51
markmcclainyes10:51
* ttx hates that default "unknown" status10:51
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ttxmarkmcclain: you also have two critical bugs not targeted to i2:10:53
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/119238110:53
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1192381 in neutron "dhcp dnsmasq lost port in host config file" [Critical,Triaged]10:53
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/125016810:53
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1250168 in neutron "gate-tempest-devstack-vm-neutron-large-ops is failing" [Critical,Confirmed]10:53
ttxshould I just add them ?10:53
markmcclainyes10:53
ttxbug 1210483 and bug 1251784 could use assignees, I suspect10:54
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1210483 in neutron "ServerAddressesTestXML.test_list_server_addresses FAIL" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121048310:54
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1251784 in tripleo "nova+neutron scheduling error: Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125178410:54
ttxmarkmcclain: could you discuss those in your next meeting and see if someone can tackle them ?10:54
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markmcclainyes… somehow we skipped over them last night10:55
ttxthat's about it -- feel free to triage other undefined blueprints (targeted to i3)10:55
ttxbut the prio is to get i2 squared10:55
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markmcclainright.. we're still working on tempest/parity items10:56
ttxmarkmcclain: anything you want to raise at the cross-project meeting ?10:56
ttxthings you are blocked on, or you need help with ?10:56
markmcclainnothing really we're just working through the tempest and parity items10:56
ttxhow is that tempest parallel testing thing going so far ?10:57
markmcclainI'll be presenting at the London OS meetup, so I may be late to the meeting10:57
markmcclainwe're making some progress but that's been about enabling and fixing the bugs we find10:57
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markmcclainsalvatore has been making steady progress there10:57
ttxmarkmcclain: so in good shape for i2 ?10:58
markmcclainright now yes10:58
* ttx marks "good progress" then10:58
ttxdon't hesitate to switch to "slow progress" the minute you feel it may slip10:58
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ttxhow are your efforts for 3rdparty gating coming up ?10:59
ttxthe deadline is i2, right ?10:59
markmcclaincorrect.. many of the vendors have been working on setting up the systems in their labs10:59
markmcclaina few are super close to enabling10:59
ttxmarkmcclain: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lessrouter-scheduler looks completed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47490/ ?11:00
mfloboI have a problem with keystoneclient upgrade from grizzly to havana11:00
mfloboI made the upgrade yum install -y http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-havana/epel-6/python-keystoneclient-0.4.1-3.el6.noarch.rpm11:00
mfloboand now, when I execute some keystone command, like: keystone  user-list11:01
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safchainHi, ttx, markmcclain I can confirm that the review pointed closes the blueprint11:01
mflobothe promopt raises this message: /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/babel/__init__.py:33: UserWarning: Module backports was already imported from /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/backports/__init__.pyc, but /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages is being added to sys.pathfrom pkg_resources import get_distribution, ResolutionError11:01
ttxsafchain: ok will mark implemented then, thx!11:01
markmcclainttx: I'll close it11:01
ttxI'm on it11:02
ttxdone11:02
markmcclainthanks11:02
ttxmarkmcclain: ok, that's all I had, see you at meetings tonight maybe11:02
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markmcclainttx: thanks for chatting early11:03
ttxmarkmcclain: np, anytime :)11:04
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mfloboI puy my answer on openstack QA https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/8396/keystonclient-upgrade-problems-with-babel/11:06
mfloboif anyone has an answer, please, let me know. Thanks11:06
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zigoWhat's the nick name of Dolph Mathews?11:44
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ijwdolphm, I'm guessing12:16
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chandankumarilyashakhat_, ping12:29
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jruzickanotmyname, hey, when do you reckon will new swiftclient version be released?13:18
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sandywalsh_markmc: thanks for the reviews. I'll convert the notifier tests to mock in a follow up branch if that's ok?13:21
markmcsandywalsh_, adding additional scenarios to the current test seems like a smaller change then adding new tests and later merging them13:22
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sandywalsh_markmc: well, this gets us into a whole discussion about the coupling of the notifier to messaging13:25
sandywalsh_markmc: the messaging notifier needs messaging, yes. But so many others don't. I'm starting to second guess it's place in this module.13:26
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markmcsandywalsh_, it's a slightly odd fit, I agree13:26
sandywalsh_markmc: yes, I could add it to the existing scenarios, and debated that, but sample isn't really tied to the messaging notifier specifically. In fact, it likely would never go through it.13:27
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sandywalsh_markmc: the most likely use-case would be the Routing notifier would send Samples over UDP and all others would go to Messaging notifier13:27
sandywalsh_markmc: now, if there's going to be a UDP driver in messaging, that's another debate, but it seems unlikely13:28
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markmcsandywalsh__, ok, look - this is a test for the log notifier we're talking about13:29
sandywalsh__markmc: (sorry, at a coffee shop with bad wifi, likely to disconnect a bit)13:29
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markmcsandywalsh__, it currently tests what gets logged if you do notifier.info()13:30
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markmcsandywalsh__, you want to test that *nothing* gets logged if you do notifier.sample()13:30
markmcsandywalsh__, to me, that's a tweak to existing test and doesn't need some fundamental debate13:30
sandywalsh__markmc: good point, yes. Ideally it should its own test case13:30
ttxjd__: around?13:30
sandywalsh__markmc: that's an easy change, was thinking the suggestion to move into the scenarios13:31
jd__ttx: yes13:31
ttxhola13:31
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ttxjd__: https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/icehouse-213:31
ttxYou have two undefined/unknown to triage (set a priority for)13:31
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ttxjd__: i'll mark switch-to-oslo.messaging started since medhi has code proposed for it13:32
markmcsandywalsh__, yes I'd do the "nothing gets logged if you do notifier.sample()" using scenarios13:32
markmcsandywalsh__, it's pretty quick and easy13:32
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ttxjd__: coud you triage those two undefined/unknown now (or before meeting today) ?13:33
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sandywalsh__markmc: hmm, actually logging can log a sample, it just does it a level that works for the logger (debug or something)13:33
jd__ttx: sure13:34
sandywalsh__markmc: the scenarios assume messaging (v1 vs v2, etc). Samples shouldn't care about messaging per se.13:34
ttxjd__: + monitoring-network-from-opendaylight13:35
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jd__ttx: set to low13:35
ttxjd__: theer is also a weird dependency:13:35
ttxspecify-event-api (Medium, john-herndon, icehouse-2) depends on expose-event-data (Undefined, sandy-walsh, next)13:35
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ttxjd__: if it's a true dep maybe sandy's BP should be brought to i213:36
ttxif it's a fake dep then maybe we should just remove it13:36
jd__I think it should be removed, I'll do tht13:37
ttxok13:37
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jd__done13:37
ttxjd__: I think that covers all I had13:37
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ttxjd__: anything you want to discuss at the meeting today ?13:38
jd__nop!13:38
ttxok then. See you there13:38
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sandywalsh__markmc: sorry, forgot I decided to go with logging dropping samples (vs pushing them in at debug level). Sorry for the confusion.13:44
markmcsandywalsh__, np13:44
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ttxjgriffith: around?13:51
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sandywalsh__markmc: can you elaborate on your comment about notifier ordering (in routing notifier branch)13:52
markmcsandywalsh__, can you elaborate on why ordering is important?13:52
sandywalsh__markmc: I don't think it is. I know your scenario tests were making assumptions about ordering, but my routing notifier doesn't care.13:53
sandywalsh__markmc: (I have a patch into stevedore to fix that)13:53
markmcsandywalsh__, I'd prefer the tests not to make assumptions about ordering13:53
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markmcsandywalsh__, rather than require ordering via the stevedore patch13:54
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sandywalsh__markmc: likewise13:54
markmcsandywalsh__, cool13:54
sandywalsh__markmc: but they're loaded into a dict and the ordering changes13:54
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markmcsandywalsh__, what's 'they' ?13:54
sandywalsh__markmc: so the tests fail when new notifiers are added13:54
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sandywalsh__markmc: (or may not, random of course)13:55
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sandywalsh__markmc: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/tests/test_notifier.py#L177-L18113:55
sandywalsh__markmc: always assumes v1, then v213:55
sandywalsh__markmc: but the drivers could be out of order in stevedore, because of how entry points are discovered13:57
markmcsandywalsh__, I'd guess mox has a way of saying we don't care about ordering13:57
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markmcsandywalsh__, InAnyOrder()13:58
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sandywalsh__markmc: interesting ... looking13:58
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sandywalsh_markmc: InAnyOrder might handle it ... nice find. Need to ensure it's not a false positive. Stay tuned.14:21
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sandywalsh_markmc: works ... excellent!14:27
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markmcsandywalsh_, cool14:27
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raildoGuys, I'm doing a test and I'm changing the policy.json at Keystone,  but while I try to run the installation on devstack occurs an error "Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials."  if I remove this change in policy.json the code works normally . Is there anything more to be done to change this file? I have to repeat the new rules for all other modules?14:50
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ttxmarkmc: is transport-aliases completed with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59240/ ?14:56
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ttxdolphm: o/15:00
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dolphmttx: o/15:01
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ttxdolphm: https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/icehouse-215:01
ttxlooks good to me15:01
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dolphmthe 'federation' bp is currently a placeholder, more or less15:02
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ttxdo you still expect it to be "completed" during i2 ?15:02
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dolphmno, i'm intending to mark it obsolete today15:02
ttxah ok15:02
dolphmwe have 3 other federation blueprints in that list15:02
ttxok15:02
ttxthere s a weird depend in there:15:03
dolphmmapping-something, saml-id, and virtual-idp15:03
ttxsaml-id (Medium, marek-denis, icehouse-2) depends on auth-domain-architecture (Undefined, No assignee, No milestone)15:03
ttxif it's a true depend we need to bring that one in scope15:03
ttxif it's not, let's kill the link15:03
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dolphmauth-domain-architecture is superseded by virtual-idp, so the links should be updated accordingly15:04
ttxok, I can do that15:04
ttxlooking into the more general icehouse plan now15:05
ttxdolphm: what's the deal with deprecated-as-of-icehouse  ?15:05
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ttx"Informational" ?15:05
ttx("informational" generally means comlpeted with no source code landed)15:06
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dolphmthat's a catch all for things to track deprecated things against15:06
dolphmthe big ticket one is here- https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/deprecate-v2-api15:06
dolphm(tracked separately)15:06
dolphmwe made a list of misc things to deprecate at the summit -- i should amend the bp with that list15:07
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ttxdolphm: I think it's fine to mark it "not started"15:07
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ttxdolphm: it may result in @deprectaed code drops iiuc15:07
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dolphmi'd say that one can safely stay in 'good progress' until the end of m3?15:08
ttxdolphm: sure15:08
ttxand have someone assigned to it, can be "keystone drivers" if that makes more sense15:08
dolphmoh that's better -- i assigned it to myself for kicks15:08
ttxdolphm: ok, that's all I had... There will be discussion around quotas at the meeting today so would be cool if you were around for that15:09
ttxdolphm: anything *you* wanted to raise ?15:09
dolphmcross-project meeting?15:09
ttxyep15:09
dolphmcool15:09
dolphmno, nothing special from me15:09
ttxok, see you there15:09
ttxdolphm: hrm15:10
ttxvirtual-idp depends on saml-id, so I can't really have it replace auth-domain-architecture in the graph15:10
ttxI'l let you fix the graph then :)15:10
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ttxdolphm: just get auth-domain-architecture out and i'll be fine with it :)15:11
ttxrussellb: we can start now if you want15:11
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russellbsure15:11
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dolphmsaml-id should depend on virtual-idp lol .... launchpad deps are really confusing to work with15:12
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ttxno kidding15:12
dolphmttx: i'll work on unwinding things15:12
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ttxrussellb: https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/icehouse-2 is.. interesting.15:12
russellbyeah.15:12
ttxLots of Low stuff15:13
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ttxLots of yet-to-triage stuff15:13
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mriedemaren't the blueprints in 'low' status by design now?15:13
russellbso the list of Low is because not many core folks are signing up to sponsor things15:13
russellbso yeah, Low is by design, though I would expect a bit more Medium15:13
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russellband the lots of yet to triage stuff isn't really true15:13
russellball of that has been triaged and is under review15:13
russellbyou just can't really see it on this view15:14
ttxwell, lots of "Undefined".15:14
russellbbetter view: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/icehouse/+specs?memo=75&start=7515:14
russellbNew == not triaged15:14
russellb(for us)15:14
russellbPending Approval is on us, though15:14
russellbthe rest are all on the submitter, or hinging on some discussion15:14
ttxrussellb: do you have a cut date for i2 submissions ?15:14
russellbno15:15
russellbnot a bad idea15:15
ttxI'm trying to see if we can come up at some point with a nearfinal picture of i2, but it looks a bit unlikely15:15
russellbyeah, with the volume of stuff in varying states of maybe, i'm just having a hard time doing that15:15
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ttxrussellb: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/v3-api-pecan has no assignee ?15:16
russellbyeah saw that, pretty sure someone is working on it, need to dig back up the name15:17
mriedemsomeone was just asking about pecan in nova yesterday, trying to remember15:17
russellblet's assign to cyeoh for now, he'll know :)15:17
ttxyep, sounds like a safe bet15:17
mriedemheh, they were looking for cyeoh i think15:17
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russellbdone15:17
ttxrussellb: db-api-tests-on-all-backends (Low, rpodolyaka, icehouse-2) is marked as depending on db-sync-models-with-migrations (Undefined, boris-42, next)15:18
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russellbOK, I think that may be done, i'll follow up15:18
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ttxrussellb: should I add the 3 untargeted critical bugs to the i2 milestone ?15:19
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/125389615:19
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1253896 in tempest "test_minimum_basic_scenario fails with SSHException: Error reading SSH protocol banner" [Critical,Confirmed]15:19
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/125884815:19
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1258848 in nova "vif doesn't exist Error message in tempest runs" [Critical,Triaged]15:19
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/125885615:19
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1258856 in nova "tempest.api.compute.servers.test_server_actions.ServerActionsTestXML.test_stop_start_server fails with quota error" [Critical,Triaged]15:19
russellbmight as well15:19
russellbgate stuff15:19
ttxon it15:19
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ttxrussellb: subsidiary question being obviously, would be nice to have names on them :)15:19
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ttx(at least on the critical ones @ https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/icehouse-2)15:20
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russellbwould be nice :)15:21
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russellbi think joe does a nice job of raising awareness of them15:21
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russellbnot sure what else to do to get people working on them15:21
russellbhave thought briefly about banning +A temporarily when it gets bad enough15:21
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ttxrussellb: so for the remaining "undefined" blueprints -- do you think there will be a time when you'll have a final yes/no answer for them ?15:22
ttxor some cut date, not approved by X, -> i3 ?15:22
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russellbcut date we can do for sure15:22
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russellband then when we get to i3, another cut date for if not approved, punted to next15:23
ttxrussellb: when do you think that could be... ~4 weeks before milestone ?15:23
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russellbwas just looking at the schedule trying to decide15:23
russellb4 weeks this time is bad timing because of holidays15:24
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russellbso sometime next week15:24
* russellb spins the wheel of dates next week15:24
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russellbcould just call it one more week15:25
ttxrussellb: so you use "Low" for stuff that is technically sound but has no core signed up, and all the "undefined" are actually things where you're not sure they are interesting yet ?15:25
russellbright15:25
russellbasking for more information, discussing it still, stuff like that15:26
ttxok -- I like that, I'm just surprised there are so many stuff that may not be good ideas at all15:26
russellblots of it are things that are probably ok, just written up very poorly ... too vague15:26
russellbso we push for some amount of design information15:26
ttxcompared to previous approach where people would just get Low prio and propose their code and be accepted/rejected then)15:26
russellbso that we can steer them in a good direction early15:26
russellbright15:27
ttxok, so having a deadline will push them to file it properly15:27
russellbtrying to avoid a -2 (your design is fundamentally broken) reviews after they do a bunch of code work15:27
russellbin an extreme case15:27
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russellbyeah, trying to decide between tues or thurs next week15:27
russellbwant to have it settled before holidays15:27
ttxrussellb: +1 for end of next week15:28
danpbrussellb:  ttx  i was wondering if it would be worth having something that auto -2's stuff submitted to gerrit for a unapproved blueprint to make it clear that blueprints must be approved before merge15:28
russellbok15:28
danpbpeople just don't seem to be paying attention to fact that blueprints need approval15:28
russellbat least for now hopefully reviewers are doing that manually ...15:28
ttxdanpb: I think it's good to train reviewers to have a look at the blueprint anyway15:28
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ttxdanpb: but we could definitely help that15:29
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ttxdanpb: first step would be to require link to bug/bp for a given change15:29
russellbttx: i'll post something about a cut date next week15:29
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markmcttx, thanks, I marked transport-aliases as implemented15:29
russellbto the dev ML15:29
ttxrussell_h: +115:29
ttxmarkmc: thx15:30
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ttxrussellb: ok, anything specific you wanted to discuss at meeting today ?15:30
ttxwas russellb: +115:30
russellbdon't think so15:30
ttxrussellb: ok15:31
russellbsorry our blueprint list is confusing since we're doing things a little differently15:31
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russellbtrying to abuse the fields we have to add some more workflow around things15:31
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ttxrussellb: no, Ithink that's interesting, especially as we look into getting things right for storyboard/gerrit integration15:31
russellbcool15:31
russellbtried to capture it on the Blueprints wiki page too15:31
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ttxjust makes list a bit dirty atm but could prove to be the workflow of the future15:32
russellbwoo15:32
ttxdavid-lyle: around?15:32
david-lylettx: hello15:32
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/icehouse-215:32
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ttxdavid-lyle: you have two undefined BPs proposed in the list15:33
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ttxincluding one without an assignee15:33
david-lylettx: I think bp authors are assigning bps to i-2 on their own, I need to go in and clean that up15:33
david-lylewill try to get everyone on the same process15:34
ttxdavid-lyle: it's fine that they propose stuff this way15:34
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ttxdavid-lyle: it's just hard for you to stay on top of those, especially without being notified of them15:34
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ttxit's fine if we clean it up once per week in this 1:115:35
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david-lylettx: ack15:35
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ttxdavid-lyle: plugin-architecture looks implemented to me with the merging of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56367/15:35
ttxagree ?15:35
david-lyleyes15:36
ttxok fixed15:36
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david-lylettx: been out a couple of days, trying to catch up :)15:36
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ttxdavid-lyle: OK, script also detects a few inconsistencies in dependencies between BPs15:37
ttxcss-breakdown (Medium, maxime-vidori, icehouse-2) depends on bootstrap-update (Low, jtomasek, icehouse-2)15:37
ttxthat second one should be Medium at least if it's a true dep15:37
ttx(or the forst one should be Low)15:38
ttxfirst*15:38
BobBallmtreinish: Sorry - had left IRC on and haven't checked for ages! Am now.15:38
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david-lylettx: Both of those should just be low15:38
* ttx fixes15:38
ttxceilometer-api-enhancements (Medium, lsmola, icehouse-2) depends on statistics-order-by-and-limit-for-grouped-query (Undefined, No assignee, next)15:38
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ttxis it a true dep ?15:39
ttxdavid-lyle: if yes we should bring it into i2 scope15:39
ttxand get someone assinged to it I suspect15:39
ttxoh15:39
ttxceilometer bp15:39
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mtreinishBobBall: hey, I was just going to say I had a change of heart about: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58645/15:40
david-lyleyes, that one's waiting on ceilometer15:40
ttxdavid-lyle: so the question is rather.. if you need that in, we need to communicate the dep to ceilo folks15:40
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ttxso that they prioritize accordingly15:40
david-lylewhich I believe is slated for i-215:40
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ttxdavid-lyle: that's a good topic for the meeting today15:40
mtreinishBobBall: renaming the function is harmless enough. I was just concerned about the slippery slope of making changes to make nose-isms work15:40
david-lylettx: ok15:40
ttxdavid-lyle: that's all I had for you, anything you want to see discussed at the meeting ?15:41
mtreinishBobBall: because eventually we want to pull all the nose workarounds out of tempest15:41
ttxapart from aforementioned dep on ceilo ?15:41
lsmolattx, it might be all solved here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/complex-filter-expressions-in-api-queries15:41
ttxlsmola: we'll clarify at meeting today15:41
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lsmolattx, they want to start solving real life user stories in this bp15:42
lsmolattx, excellent15:42
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BobBallmtreinish: Agreed - but I worked around it from our end by moving to tox instead of nose.  I do get that we want to move away from nose, so I wasn't sure it was worth trying to push it through15:42
ttxdavid-lyle: anything you want to see discussed at the meeting ?15:42
BobBallmtreinish: do you want me to resurrect the changeset? or do you think it's likely to encounter other resistence for similar reasons?15:42
david-lylettx: no, I think we're good15:43
ttxdavid-lyle: ok, thanks, see you there15:43
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david-lylettx: thx15:43
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mtreinishBobBall: honestly I think I was the only one who cared enough about it being a nose thing15:43
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mtreinishBobBall: but you might get resistance on the function name choice, names always seem to be contentious15:44
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BobBallHas anyone else complained?15:44
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BobBallMaybe I was the only one stuck in the dark ages using nose ;)15:44
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ekarlsoBobBall: any packages out yet in a repo ?15:48
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BobBallekarlso: Just chasing15:48
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dstanekdolphm: i made that review a little better, but i still need to walk through each one of the changes15:50
mtreinishBobBall: yeah I saw another crazy patch to try to fix the bug (by upping the quota used in the test)15:50
mtreinishBobBall: which made me think that it's not just you15:50
mtreinishso mine as well rename15:51
mtreinish:)15:51
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BobBallmtreinish: re-uploaded rebased patch15:54
BobBalljust for you.15:54
BobBall;)15:54
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raildoGuys, I'm doing a test and I'm changing the policy.json at Keystone,  but while I try to run the installation on devstack occurs an error "Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials."  if I remove this change in policy.json the code works normally . Is there anything more to be done to change this file? I have to repeat the new rules for all other modules?15:54
BobBallmtreinish: actually, it probably won't work... hang on... sorry15:55
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ekarlsoBobBall: any new packages then ? ;D15:56
BobBallekarlso: I'm waiting for a reply to an email15:57
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ekarlsofor ? :D15:57
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BobBallekarlso: I'm chasing about whether the synced repo is being uploaded to akami15:57
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ttxjgriffith: o/16:19
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jgriffithttx: hola16:20
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/icehouse-216:20
jgriffithNot bad for first week... kinda16:21
ttxjgriffith: two unassigned blueprints in there16:21
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ttxdo you have people signed up to do/lead it ?16:21
jgriffithI'll take one16:21
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ttxtake both ?16:22
jgriffithTeh filtering one will end up on Winstons plate16:22
jgriffithupdating now...16:22
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ttxhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/multiple-capability-sets-per-backend needs a priority (or be booted off the island)16:23
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jgriffithttx: lemme talk with bswartz about that.. I don't like the idea but I may not understand it fully16:24
jgriffithif it's what I think it is I'll probably boot it16:24
ttxjgriffith: last remark would be a dependency issue:16:24
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ttxcopy-volume-to-image-task-flow (Low, abhijeet-malawade, icehouse-2) is marked as depending on create-volume-flow (Undefined, anastasia-karpinska, No milestone)16:24
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notmynamejruzicka: still wondering about the next swift client version release? see the top of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews16:25
jgriffithttx: I need to revist all fo the flow related bp's16:25
jgriffithttx: they should not be dependent16:25
ttxok, just clarify it before next week16:25
jgriffithwill do16:25
ttxno hurry there16:25
ttxthat's all I had16:25
jgriffiththe copy-vol-image needs to be independent16:25
jgriffithOk16:25
ttxjgriffith: want to have something discussed on the meeting today ?16:25
jgriffithI did...16:26
jgriffithummm16:26
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jgriffithCan't remember the other topic16:26
ttxjgriffith: just ping me if you remember16:26
jgriffithbut one of them was revisiting stable backports16:26
jgriffithbut maybe I should start that via ML first16:26
ttxjgriffith: yeah, I fear the people to discuss it would not be around (stable-maint team) otherwise16:27
ttxbut you can raise it during open discussion, informally16:27
jgriffithOk...16:27
ttxthen push a thread if doubts subsist16:27
jgriffithI'll get a strategy together and see how I feel16:27
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ttxnotmyname: o/16:31
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notmynamettx: good morning/afternoon16:31
ttxnotmyname: cut MP and announced it to -dev earlier today16:31
notmynamettx: thanks. I haven't seen the email yet. I just opened my computer this morning. but thanks for sending it out16:31
ttxnotmyname: standing ready to tag when you give me your final SHA16:31
notmynamettx: ok16:31
notmynamettx: sorry for the delay in the m-p branch. most of it was because of gate issues16:32
ttxnotmyname: no issue reported so far ?16:32
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notmynamettx: no, but we just got he m-p sha yesterday :-)16:32
ttxheh16:32
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ttxnotmyname: How do you want to do the next-icehouse swap after release ?16:33
notmynamettx: now that we have 1.11, I'll be looking at swiftclient. some review have been languishing, and I'll be cutting a final 1.X rev and then we have a 2.0 release16:33
ttxrename next-icehouse to X.Y and create a new next-icehouse ?16:33
ttxor just create a X.Y and move stuff from next-icehouse there selectively ?16:33
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notmynamettx: no, keep it in next- and I'll manually retarget for 1.12 as needed16:34
ttxnotmyname: +& for some swiftclient love16:34
notmynamettx: also, reminder that we now have a swift-bench repo too16:34
ttxnotmyname: Ok, I can create 1.12.0 for now (can always be renamed if you change your mind on version number)16:34
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ttxnotmyname: hah, good point16:35
notmyname1.12 is good for now, and if needed we can adjust for a 1.11.116:35
ttxnotmyname: swift-bench is released-on-tag and not coordinated with common release, right ?16:35
notmynamettx: correct. like the client16:35
ttxnotmyname: works for me16:36
ttxdid you push a release of that yet ?16:36
notmynamettx: it's already got a 1.0 on pypi16:36
ttxok16:36
notmynameyes16:36
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notmynamea requirement for 1.1116:36
ttxok, empty https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.12.0 is up16:36
notmynamettx: thanks16:37
ttxnotmyname: that's all I had for you... we'll discuss keystone quotas at the meeting today16:37
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ttxanything else you wanted to see discussed ?16:37
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notmynamettx: ok. the only other cross project issues is the seeming <80% pass rate of the gates. just a general, ongoing concern, but I don't have specific actions right now.16:38
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notmynamettx: frustration is building among the devs I talk to16:38
notmynamettx: and I wonder if we shouldn't long-term, consider some different integration strategies to help individual code bases move forward more expeditiously16:39
ttxnotmyname: yeah, I can see that frustration build up16:39
ttxnotmyname: that's a good topic to brainstorm around, maybe we could think about it a bit more and discuss it at a future meeting16:40
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notmynameya. that sounds good. mostly I don't want it to be a taboo subject16:40
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ttxnotmyname: ack. see you at meeting today16:40
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notmynamettx: kk16:41
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dstanekmhu: hi, you around?16:42
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mhudstanek, yes16:42
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dstanekmhu: are you actively working on bug 1240382?16:43
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1240382 in keystone "python-oauth2 dependency is unmaintained and has security issues" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124038216:43
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mhudstanek, unfortunately no, I've had a mail exchange about it with shardy and therve16:44
mhubut I haven't got to go beyond checking the new lib for differences with the old one16:44
dstanekmhu: do you know if either of them are looking into it?16:44
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SpamapSttx: a funny thing happened to me this week. I reached into my winter coat pocket, and pulled out an openstack summit badge...16:45
SpamapSttx: with your name on it ;)16:45
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mhudstanek, shardy shared some notes with me, and therve proposed to help, we are colleagues16:45
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danpbwho can tell me what  distros the jenkins gate is running under ?16:46
ttxSpamapS: collector item16:46
SpamapSttx: I framed it16:46
ttxlol16:46
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danpbin particular is the gate using plain ubuntu, or does it include  cloudarchive repo to pull in newer libvirt/kvm versions ?16:46
ttxmarkwash: around?16:46
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markwashttx: yup16:46
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ttxhttps://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/icehouse-216:47
markwashttx: good evening/morning16:47
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ttxmarkwash: good morning to you16:47
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ttxyour i2 page looks good to me16:47
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ttxsame for your icehouse general pla,16:48
ttxor plan16:48
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ttxShould https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1259031 be targeted to i2 ?16:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1259031 in glance "Glance needs a config option to limit the number of additional image locations" [Critical,In progress]16:48
ttxis that actually critical16:48
markwashit is sort of, its part of a series of bugs where we realized there were a few dos attack vectors16:49
markwashI just updated it16:49
ttxok16:49
dstanekmhu: i would love to help with this since it is marked at a high priority16:49
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markwashttx: do you have any scripts you run for triaging issues in bug management?16:50
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ttxmarkwash: I haz scripts, but maybe they don't do what you want16:50
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mhudstanek, thanks, the more the merrier :) If I can't make it a priority for myself I'll simply unassign myself and join later as a reviewer16:50
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markwashttx: ah okay16:51
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ttxhttps://github.com/openstack-infra/release-tools16:51
dstanekmhu: are you able to forward the notes the shardy to me?16:51
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ttxmarkwash: process_bugs is what turns bugs into spam at each milestone16:51
markwashhaha16:51
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ttxmarkwash: ok I think we are good... do you have any specific topic you'd like to see discussed at the meeting today ?16:52
markwashttx: did you see any email from mordred ?16:52
* markwash thinks he might be in a tarpit :-)16:52
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mordredmarkwash: dammit. I will work on that in just a few minutes16:52
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ttxmarkwash: about what ?16:52
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markwashttx: client major relases16:52
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* ttx sees emails from mordred all the time16:52
mhudstanek, sure, can I have an e-mail ?16:52
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ttxmarkwash: not seen that one yet, but then apparently it was not sent yet16:53
markwashttx: otherwise no, I'm hoping we can all have a nice long chat about quota16:53
* ttx asks PRISM for an early copy of that email16:53
markwashhaha16:53
ttxmarkwash: ok, see you at meeting later16:54
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markwashttx: thanks, laters16:54
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thervemhu, Maybe put the notes in the bug directly?16:55
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mhutherve, will do16:57
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ttxhub_cap: around?17:01
hub_capttx: pre-emptive question to the group today... how does everyone deal w/ blueprints and the terrible ui / lack of good filtering / etc17:01
hub_capoh, and yes ttx im around :)17:01
ttxhub_cap: we all regret it so badly some of us started to rewrite it17:01
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hub_capso i hear17:02
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ttxhub_cap: in the mean time we have weekly 1:1s to straight things up regularly...17:02
hub_caphehe ya17:02
hub_capim just trying to clean up my blueprints17:02
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/icehouse-2 looks good17:02
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hub_capyes ttx im tryin to keep it cleaned up17:03
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hub_capimma change the prio on the essential item17:03
hub_capitll be essential in i3 :)17:03
ttxhub_cap: do you have someone signed up for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/use-git-ssh-for-guestagent-code-delivery-to-vm (i3) ?17:03
hub_capwell, the creator, i believed, was working on it17:04
hub_capill make sure of it today17:04
ttxhub_cap: so, about essential things... i don't like to have any of them targeted to a -3 milestone because IN THEORY that could delay the release if absent17:04
ttxI say IN THEORY because every time that came up the BP was actually deemed not that essential17:05
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hub_capah so for us, id love to see _something_ tempest in icehouse17:05
hub_capim not sure how to specify that other than how im doing it now17:05
hub_capwill the world collapse if we slip, no, but its a big item17:05
ttxhaving two essential in i3 (and assigned to the same person) is very worrysome for me17:05
hub_caplol yes17:06
hub_capi suspect clustering will slip17:06
hub_capthey are really 2 sub blueprints w/ common codebase for the most part (w/ some diffrences)17:06
hub_capbut im still not sure why they are 2 bps17:06
ttxIf it may slip you should not put it higher than "High"17:06
hub_caproger17:07
ttxthat will avoid conveying the wrong expectations17:07
hub_capmakes perfect sense17:07
ttxok, a few dep issues were detected too17:07
hub_capdo tell sir17:08
ttxsingle-instance-mongodb-ga (Low, ikhudoshyn, icehouse-2) depends on refactor-ga-for-other-engines-support (Undefined, ikhudoshyn, No milestone)17:08
hub_caplol17:08
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hub_capill make sure that gets cleaned up today too17:08
ttxthe basic rule is.. if there is a dependency, the priority of the dependant should be lower that the priority of the one it depends on17:09
hub_capi just pinged him17:09
hub_capdef.. i dont know how that happened honestly17:09
hub_capi didnt set that up hehe17:09
hub_caphell maybe i did17:09
ttxwell it(s not as if LP was preventing any mistake there17:09
hub_cap:P17:09
hub_capnice17:09
hub_capso ya whats up w this replacement?17:09
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ttxhub_cap: project getting started17:10
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ttxhub_cap: that's all I had, anything you want to see discussed at the meeting today ?17:11
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hub_capnope.. id like to hear how everyone works w/ blueprints though, to see if everyone just deals w/ it or not17:11
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ttxhub_cap: ack, maybe raise it in open discussion session17:12
ttxhub_cap: people generally get used to the pain17:12
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hub_capok if people are just used to it, im good17:12
ttxhub_cap: see you at meeting later17:12
hub_capcu17:12
hub_capthx ttx17:13
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SpamapSugh I hate it when my offlineimap dies and I'm 12 hours behind on my inbox17:38
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SpamapSjaypipes: thank you for making me LOL  --  int(Animals.bee) == 2  ... truly AMAZING18:04
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harlowjajaypipes me to :-P18:19
harlowjathats some amazing shit, ha18:19
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sandywalsh_markmc, out of curiosity, what's the purpose of that prepare() pattern? Seems to be some kind of copy constructor?18:36
harlowjasandywalsh_ btw, http://raftconsensus.github.io/#implementations if u haven't seen18:36
harlowjaamazing how many implementations there are :-P18:36
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harlowja*quality of those impls unknown of course18:37
markmcsandywalsh_, pretty much, see get_notifier() in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39929/69/nova/rpc.py18:37
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sandywalsh_markmc, is the marker thing just a workaround for the keyword defaults side effect in python?18:39
markmcsandywalsh_, it's to be able to tell the difference between no value specified passed for the kwarg and None passed as a value18:41
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sandywalsh_markmc, ah, right, None is a valid value. Got it. Thanks18:41
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markmcsandywalsh_, np18:41
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fizk__gmi: does the incorrect value in `nova hypervisor-show 1` => cpu_info_topology_sockets have any performance impact?18:52
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fizk__sorry, meant to say that to everyone18:53
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fizk__this is related to the bug with `virsh nodeinfo` (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1174365)18:53
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1174365 in libvirt "virsh nodeinfo shows only 1 of 2 sockets" [Medium,Confirmed]18:53
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jamielennoxdolphm: : does that mean i should get rid of all the session related parameters from discovery and expect that to be passed in?19:01
ayoungdolphm, any idea on how much lodging will run in San Antonio?19:01
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gyeedolphm, by limit in conf, you mean we don't support page and per_page filters? just a preset limit?19:01
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ayoungdolphm, sorry, I'll keep conversation in here19:03
dolphmgyee: correct, like keystone.conf [default] collection_limit = None # set to a positive integer to limit API results, DB query result sets, etc19:04
dolphmgyee: if we want to talk pagination later, that can be the default per_page19:04
dolphmgyee: baby steps!19:04
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dolphmjamielennox: not sure i follow19:05
gyeedolphm, that's what I am think, a default per_page19:05
gyeebut we need those params in the API19:05
dolphmayoung: i probably need to know potential group size to ask for a hotel discount19:05
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ayoungdolphm, looking at google, would you think  think $50/night is s decent planning number?19:05
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dstanekbknudson: i think the next official qa meeting is Dec 1919:06
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jamielennoxdolphm: that's ok, i need to support old + new. There is a bit of a chicken and egg problem there, if i seperate auth plugins from client versions then when doing discovery i need to know what versions are available to auth against as well as available to construct a client for19:09
jamielennoxi'm not sure yet how that will work19:11
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jamielennoxdolphm: that's ok, probably just need to think it out some more19:11
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dolphmayoung: regarding address... Fanatical Pl was just built, so 5000 Walzem Rd is probably safer19:14
ayoungdolphm, Ah, ok19:15
dolphm(same location, new and old address)19:15
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morganfainbergdolphm, Fantatical Pl seems to show up just fine via google et al.19:15
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morganfainbergdolphm, though in-car gps might have issues ;)19:15
morganfainberg:P19:15
dolphmyeah19:15
ayoungdolphm, there seems to be a hotel walking distance with $80/night rooms19:15
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ayoungPear Tree Inn, 0.5 miles19:16
morganfainbergayoung, looks like any of the "airport" hotels are close enough too.19:16
ayoungmorganfainberg, goal is to not have to drive....how far is the Airport?19:16
ayoungread:  rent a car19:17
morganfainbergi mean, short drive, but if any of us are in the same area should be easy to pool resources. to drive19:17
morganfainbergayoung, aye, i hear ya on not wanting to rent a car19:17
morganfainberglooks like far enough to need a car :P19:17
ayoungmorganfainberg, Airport to Rackspace transpo will likely eat up any benefit of staying there.19:17
topoldolphm, I plan on creating a blueprint for adding the CADF audit to keystone authn, authz, etc. I never can remember when things freeze. When do I need the blueprint in by. And when do I need to patch submitted by?19:18
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dolphmtopol: i think that one would be m319:18
dolphmtopol: patch needs to be proposed two weeks before the end of m319:18
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dolphmtopol: and in a reasonable state ;)19:18
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morganfainbergayoung, yeah 7mi from airport.19:19
dolphmayoung: i'm working on getting hotel discount + daily transport #nopromises19:19
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ayoungdolphm, understood.  I don't need much, just a place to pitch my tent19:19
dolphmprobably depends on number of people and my poor planning abilities19:20
topoldolphm, cool.  Ideally I should have it before then19:20
ayoungHell, in Texas, I'll probably want to sleep under the stars, like I did last time I was there....19:20
topolthings get quiet soon at my workplace so I can get stuff done19:20
morganfainbergdolphm, cool.  will wait on booking hotel then :)19:20
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viktors1dhellmann: are you here?19:21
topolHow much extra for the ayoung camping, hiking, extravaganza package?19:21
morganfainbergayoung, looks like the provider refactor 1 is in now.19:21
ayoungActually, last time I was in Texas was driving through from Fort Benning to LA, and I did stop in San Antonio....it was the time before that, in the desert outside of El PAso that taught me just how cold it can be in January in Texas19:21
topolwe lost 3 contributors on the ayoung camping extravaganza last year :-)19:21
ayoungmorganfainberg, w00t!19:22
ayoungtopol, I don't lose people.19:22
gyeehe'll bring back the bodies19:22
topoltag and bag :-)19:22
morganfainbergtopol, ayoung, we're doing the mountaineering extravaganza sometime post hackday right?  dead of winter? Ice climbing?19:23
ayounghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranger_School#Desert_phase19:23
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ayoungI went through Desert Phase twice I liked it so much.19:24
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morganfainbergreally?19:24
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morganfainbergcan we kick people out of this channel?19:25
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dolphmmorganfainberg: ++ ttx mordred jeremyb ^ ?19:25
mordredmarkwash: wow19:25
dolphmjeblair: ^19:25
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morganfainbergdolphm, LOL flood protection.19:25
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morganfainbergbut still, i bet it'll try and do it again when it can19:26
dolphmyep19:26
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mordredI'm waiting for him19:26
jeremybdo i really have ops here?19:26
ayoungmordred, can't you ban ahead of time?19:26
topolmordred what will you do to him19:27
dolphmjeremyb: my bad, i meant to poke jeblair19:27
mordredtopol: I op'd myself in channel - I can kickban him now if needed19:27
jeremybaha :)19:27
ayoungsomething like    /ban syfhvbgos719:27
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morganfainbergmordred, woo! thanks :)19:28
ayoungOne shot, one ban19:28
topolthat's bad ass19:28
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ayoungtopol, no, this is a bad ass http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5081/5256928180_dfbcac2ac6_z.jpg19:30
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morganfainbergayoung_BeatNavy, LOL19:30
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topolayoung isnt the game next week?19:31
ayoung_BeatNavyYep19:31
ayoung_BeatNavySaturday19:31
topolI assume you'll be watching?19:31
ttxstevebaker: around?19:31
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ayoung_BeatNavytopol, yeah, it is my One football game a year, although I watched one earlier this year at my reunion19:32
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morganfainbergayoung_BeatNavy, ok I'm going to start work on the domain cleanup stuff now.  going to leave the HMAC/Encrypt stuff until the base impl of kvs is in (easier than adding another rebase to manage in the chain)19:33
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ayoungmorganfainberg, awesome...what needs attention now?19:33
morganfainbergayoung, and i'll include the datestamp -> isotime_str work in the kvs token provider since it does 100% json dumps19:33
morganfainbergayoung, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59126/ is next in that chain. (the massive one)19:34
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stevebakerttx: here19:36
ttxstevebaker: ok, lets' do this19:37
ttxstevebaker: looking at https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/icehouse-219:37
stevebakerpow19:38
ttxstevebaker: nice and dense19:38
morganfainbergtellesnobrega, ^ going to start work on the domain cleanup now, fyi.19:38
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ttxstevebaker: You have a few unassigned blueprints in there, did anyone sign up to deliver those ?19:38
morganfainbergtellesnobrega, unless you have something you've started on, which case, let me know and I'll use it as a basis as well.19:38
tellesnobregamorganfainberg: cool, i havent started yet19:39
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morganfainbergtellesnobrega, alright, well i'll drop you a link once i get it moving then.19:39
stevebakerttx: some will be unassigned, I'll shop for contributors at tomorrows meeting for the unassigned ones19:39
tellesnobregamorganfainberg: thanks19:39
ttxstevebaker: ok, also if you know someone in a group will take it but you don't know who, you can also assign a team19:40
stevebakerttx: I think the only team is the heat team19:40
ttxstevebaker: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/parameter-grouping-ordering needs a priority (or be removed from the milestone)19:40
morganfainbergtellesnobrega, do you remember which day we had the conversation?  I have a bunch of IRC logs, but forgot what day it was19:41
stevebakerttx: done19:41
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ttxstevebaker: is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/abandon-stack completed by the merging of https://review.openstack.org/56697 ?19:42
tellesnobregamorganfainberg: it was on 05/1219:42
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morganfainbergtellesnobrega, thanks!19:42
stevebakerttx: it looks like it, yes19:42
ttxstevebaker: ok, will update19:42
tellesnobregamorganfainberg: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-dev/%23openstack-dev.2013-12-05.log19:42
ttxoh you did19:42
stevebakertoo slow19:43
ttxstevebaker: two potential dependency issues:19:43
morganfainbergtellesnobrega, i keep a local copy of my IRC transcripts as well :)19:43
ttxstevebaker: management-api (High, andersonvom, icehouse-2) depends on a keystone blueprint: service-scoped-role-definition (Undefined, arvind-tiwari, No milestone)19:43
morganfainbergtellesnobrega, means i don't need the web to search it :)19:43
ttxshould we discuss that one at the meeting today ?19:43
tellesnobregamorganfainberg: that comes in handy sometimes i bet19:43
ttxstevebaker: if you really depend on it they should raise the prio and target it at a compatible milestone19:43
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stevebakerttx: sure, lets raise that19:44
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ttxstevebaker: stack-convergence (Medium, rblee88, icehouse-2) depends on stack-check (Undefined, andersonvom, No milestone)19:44
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ttxshoudl that one be i2/Medium too ?19:44
stevebakerttx: doing that now19:45
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ttxstevebaker: OK, that's all I had19:46
ttxstevebaker: anything else we should discuss at the meeting today ?19:46
stevebakernothing I can think of19:46
ttxstevebaker: ok, see you there19:46
stevebakercheers19:46
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morganfainbergtellesnobrega, or it's annoying when you have ... ~120 days of IRC logs :P19:47
morganfainbergbecause it's hard to remember the day a conversation happened.19:47
tellesnobregamorganfainberg: kkk19:47
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ayoungmorganfainberg, "A global toggle has been added to enable/disable locking across all KVS backends."19:50
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morganfainbergayoung, oh did i leave that verbage in therE?  darn I thought i stripped it out19:51
ayoungits in the commit message19:51
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morganfainbergahaha, damn missed that one19:51
morganfainbergok19:51
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morganfainbergi'll fix that before we merge it.19:51
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ayoungdolphm, bknudson https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/no-check-id19:56
ayoungmorganfainberg, just wanted to be sure you had not planned on making it global.  Right?19:57
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bknudsonayoung: thank you19:57
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pabelangerWith openstack/requirements, can you just cherry-pick a commit or should you suck in all the changes when you run update?20:14
pabelangerfor example, I just want to pin sphinx to 1.2 for now20:15
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SpamapSrussellb: Hi, I'm trying to grok this comment you left here: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/compute/rpcapi.py#n221 , which does not agree with the referenced file, which says this: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-incubator/tree/openstack/common/rpc/dispatcher.py#n6820:16
clarkbpabelanger: if this is going through the CI gate you need everything, otherwise the requirements check test will fail20:16
pabelangerclarkb, okay, let me confirm20:16
clarkbpabelanger: this usually isn't a major concern as we test projects in the tempest tests with the requriements listed in requirements not the requirements listed under the project20:16
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russellbSpamapS: perhaps look at previous commits that bumped the version?20:19
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pabelangerclarkb, thanks20:20
SpamapSrussellb: ok my eyes did not see the BASE_ on there... I will try and dig out where the RPC_API_VERSION should be raised.20:20
russellbin nova it's updated on the manager side, like nova/compute/manager.py20:21
russellband then on the client side, just in the method that requires the newer version20:21
russellbto say "i require version X for this to work"20:21
russellbroughly20:21
SpamapSrussellb: though it is worth noting that dispatcher.py never mentions BASE_RPC_API_VERSION .. and nova.compute.rpcapi never mentions RPC_API_VERSION .. so.. I am still very confused. :(20:21
russellbdispatcher.py comments are pretty old20:22
russellbsorry20:22
SpamapSbut I accept that entirely as my fault as a noob to the code :-P20:22
russellbit's not the most simple thing ever20:22
russellbmanager = the version currently implemented20:22
russellbclient / rpcapi = the version the client says the manager (server) side must implement to understand the request20:22
russellbthat much make sense?20:23
russellbthat's the high level view of the versions in the 2 places20:23
russellbthe rest if the mechanics of expressing all that20:23
SpamapSrussellb: it adds data which I'm sure my subconscious will sift through soon enough.20:23
russellband dealing with backwards compatibility and junk20:23
russellbheh20:23
russellbk20:23
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SpamapSrussellb: I think I got it.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60285/5/nova/compute/manager.py ?20:24
russellbyes that's the other side20:24
russellbnow note that this is all still based on nova/openstack/common/rpc/20:25
russellbwhich is deprecated in favor of oslo.messaging20:25
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russellbso learn this ... and then go study the patch (not yet merged) that converts it to oslo.messaging, heh20:25
SpamapSdoohhh20:25
SpamapSThis reminds me of when they taught me COBOL in college.20:25
SpamapSin 1998...20:26
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ayoungmorganfainberg, are get_multi and set_multi new, or are they a port of the current APIs?20:28
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morganfainbergayoung, they are new. they are dogpile-isms, so i exposed them20:31
morganfainbergsame with delete_multi20:31
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ayoungas is Key mangler, I take it.20:31
morganfainbergayoung, and yes, locking is not global.20:31
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morganfainbergayoung, yes, similar key_mangler is another dogpile-ism20:31
ayoungmorganfainberg, the memcached backend is pretty small.  Is this the amount of code to expect for Cassandra?20:32
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morganfainbergayoung, likely similar unless we are working to expose new (go around dogpile's interfaces) search mechanisms20:33
ayoungmorganfainberg, but to keep parity with memcached, it should not require that, right?20:33
morganfainbergayoung, depends on how friendly cassandra python libs are.20:33
ayoungright20:33
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morganfainbergayoung, correct, to be compariable to the lowest-common target, it should be similar to memcache's interfaces20:34
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morganfainbergi could see some cases (e.g. advanced behind the scenes mapping, not something exposed to the user/consumer) that we might circumvent dogpile's interfaces...but those would be special cases not general-use20:34
morganfainbergayoung, the basic idea was that I wanted to make any dogpile-conforming backend to be usable (there will be some more patches down the line in icehouse to enable that, but for now we're doing basic-parity work for what we have)20:35
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ayoungmorganfainberg, I've +2ed the patch.  I think that the approach is solid, and, while we might find fixes based on the token or other providers, we won't really be able to say "it is bulletproof" until we have real implementations.  I'd rather move it ahead now, and keep a sharp eye out.20:36
ayoungI've been through it several times, and it looks good20:36
morganfainbergsounds good.  I'll fix the commit message and handle the rebase-chain20:36
ayoungmorganfainberg, oh, one thing20:37
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/59126/11/keystone/token/backends/memcache.py20:37
ayoungis that change intentional?20:37
morganfainbergyes.20:37
morganfainbergmoved to a listopt20:37
morganfainbergsaves the need to explicitly split, it made it easier to use the same config currently20:37
dolphmmorganfainberg: that's a difference in memcache client versions, no?20:37
morganfainbergdolphm, nope, the cache_cas bit is. which when you dive down the chain, you'll never see it again20:38
ayoungmorganfainberg, sounds good20:38
morganfainbergi've removed that horrible hack once we get the whole token-backend changes merged20:38
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morganfainbergno more need to use memcache_compare-and-set, using some locking semnatics instead20:38
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morganfainbergbut the "newer" version of memcache client is good to have so we don't leak more memory than we need to :P20:39
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morganfainbergtopol, do you see the nit as worth blocking the patchset for?  if so i can fix it now or i can fix it in the next doc pass20:59
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morganfainbergtopol, re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/5912620:59
morganfainbergthere will be more docs to write (i already know it)20:59
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topolmorganfainberg, not worth blocking.  That is a really cool piece of code.21:00
morganfainbergtopol, glad you like it :)21:00
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topolIt humbles me21:00
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morganfainbergtopol, i can't take too much credit, it would have been significantly harder to write if I didn't have the dogpile-isms to leverage.21:01
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morganfainbergtopol, mostly it's just some nice wrapping on a very cool library to make it a litlte more keystone friendly21:01
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topolmorganfainberg, I never had seen dogpile before so I was just taking it all in how you leveraged it. That and the weakref stuff.  I learned a lot today.  THANKS21:02
morganfainbergtopol, weakref is _awesome_ when done right21:02
morganfainbergit can also cause a lot of headaches if done wrong :P21:02
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topolyeah, your mileage may vary. did you like my earlier highlander reference???21:03
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morganfainbergtopol, totally did!21:03
topolcool. I get so depressed when I make those references and folks are too young to appreciate them.  Uh... maybe my dad saw that movie...21:04
morganfainbergLOL. I remeber watching all of those movies.21:04
morganfainbergeven the bad ones21:04
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morganfainbergtopol, once this and the encrypt/hmac stuff is fully baked, i am planning on proposing it to oslo so it can be used outside of keystone (and it'll solve the long-open "make a generic memcache implementation" bp i think i saw)21:06
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ayoungstevemar, I don't know how you are not hitting the Eventlet issue with threading, but I am pretty sure you need STANDARD_THREADS21:07
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topolsounds good.  What I really liked was how inmemdb was only 86 lines.  That's craftmanship!!!21:07
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morganfainbergtopol, it would have been smaller if i didn't do the isolation bit ;)21:07
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topolyeah,  too bad we couldnt throw that dead weight overboard :-)21:08
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morganfainbergtopol, this is the real winner in the chain though21:08
morganfainberghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/60743/21:08
morganfainbergimo21:08
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morganfainbergtalk about throwing dead weight overboard.21:08
ayoungmorganfainberg, the real winner will be once we start pulling in Cassandra and new KVS stores.21:09
topolso is the big advantage of the new stuff performance or that old stuff will get removed due to the weak ref?  or Both?21:10
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morganfainbergtopol, flexible backends21:10
morganfainbergtopol, want to use memcache, use memcache, redis, redis, different driver, implement a very basic driver that handles the simple interfaces and load it up21:10
morganfainbergtopol, keeps code unified and imminently testable (same behaviors)21:11
topolmy experience has been we choose which performed best and advised folks to use that.  Cause when they would use the sqlbackend things didnt scale21:11
topoland we quickly told them use memcache21:11
morganfainberghehe21:11
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morganfainbergi also re-worked the kvs store for tokens to lighten the round-trips to the backend (memcache) where possible21:12
topolideally one of the choices you now enable is appropriate 80 of the time?21:12
topol80%21:12
morganfainbergtopol, thats the hope.21:12
topolBut which one?21:12
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morganfainbergtopol, i think with revocation events, memcache will still be the winner21:13
topolcool!21:13
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morganfainbergtopol, but the real nice thing is we can unit test against the same interface as memcache with the speed of in-memdb21:13
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morganfainbergreminds me, i need to set a couple BPs are superceded21:15
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topolhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/60743/  was a tad easier to review21:15
morganfainbergLOL21:16
morganfainbergright?21:16
morganfainberg:)21:16
topolgotta run. Nice job!21:16
bknudsonayoung: I did add STANDARD_THREADS=1 to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54789/12/tools/debug_helper.sh21:16
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ayoungbknudson, Ah,,,coool21:23
ayoungmissed that you did it up front.21:23
bknudsonayoung: I'm not sure what it does since I hadn't had a problem with it?21:24
ayoungbknudson, Memcached needed Eventlet to pretend to be posix threads21:24
ayoungthis turned it off, in order to let the debugger switch threading contexts21:25
ayoungstep by step breakpointing will not progress21:25
ayoungI saw it both in running in Eclipse and from the command line21:25
bknudsonok. I hope this is useful for others, it was just something I wanted myself.21:26
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bknudson(being able to run with pdb easily)21:26
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bknudsonand thanks to stevemar and dstanek for cleaning it up21:27
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ayoungbknudson, I think it is stellar21:30
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dstanekbknudson: it's a killer development feature21:34
morganfainbergfyi, check/gate is broken, sphinx 1.2 broke most everything.21:36
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ayoungdolphm, should we start making arrangements for the Keystone Hackfest, or is there some more confirmation we need first?21:36
morganfainberginfra is looking into triggering the auto-update requirements job.  but if that isn't going to fly, i'll have a couple patchsets up shortly to get the update in21:36
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ohnoimdeaddavid-lyle: you there?21:46
david-lyleyes21:46
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ohnoimdeadhi! what do i have to do to keep my horizon core. :)21:46
ohnoimdeadi'm a terrible person and haven't contributed recently. :(21:47
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david-lyleohnoimdead: not worried about code contributions, really worried about reviews21:47
ohnoimdeadi'll do some reviews! today!21:48
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david-lyleno worries, have you been following the changes in the code base?21:50
david-lyleohnoimdead: I mostly assumed the people I listed were no longer interested21:50
ohnoimdeadyeah, pulled down master last week. looking awesome! i'm interested and i'm prioritizing it.21:51
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david-lyleohnoimdead: glad to know you're not dead yet21:52
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ohnoimdeaddavid-lyle: well, i am in silent hill. the internet pipe here is very static-y but i can still contribute!21:53
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harlowjamorganfainberg qq, do u know who is using the OS-REGION or domain stuff, anyone in production yet (that u know of?)21:59
harlowjawe were talking about it in a standup today21:59
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notmynamedevananda: another is http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0396/22:02
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notmynamedevananda: I think the "thing" is that distutils or something was adopting strict policies about it. or something was being added to the stdlib that was enforcing it22:03
notmynamedevananda: but I think http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0440/ is the right one22:03
notmynameit's longer and newer so it must be right22:03
devanandayea. it appears to supercede 038622:04
devanandabut isn't yet ratified22:04
notmynamedevananda: eg in swift we rely on the distutils parsing here https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/swift/common/memcached.py#L11322:05
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notmynameto work around an upstream but in an old version22:05
notmynames/but/bug22:06
devanandanotmyname: gotcha. thanks again.22:06
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clarkbmorganfainberg: can you leave one project alone with the requirements updates so that we can see our job run? :)22:10
morganfainbergclarkb, sure. i can stop ;)22:10
clarkbactually if you used a different topic we may end up with duplication changes depending on when stuff merges so nevermind22:10
clarkbI am willing to bet most projects won't have those cahnges merged before we get the job going22:11
morganfainbergclarkb, hehe22:11
morganfainbergclarkb, sure. well i'm done with what i have cloned22:11
morganfainbergclarkb, worst case, these can just get abandoned if the job starts working :)22:11
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jamielennoxayoung: can you weigh back in on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49106/22:16
ayoungjamielennox, looking22:16
jamielennoxyou had previously +1ed it but it got removed after it was rebased/message changed and jenkins failed22:17
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ayoungjamielennox, any other differences?22:17
jamielennoxshouldn't be, dolphm redid some bugs on the message, then jenkins failed so it removed the otherwise simple-rebase22:17
jamielennoxremoved the votes that would otherwise have been kept from a simple rebase22:18
morganfainbergayoung, gyee, jamielennox, dolphm, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61242/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61240/ to solve sphinx check/gate issues22:18
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morganfainbergfor keystone that is22:18
gyeemorganfainberg, looking22:19
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jamielennoxmorganfainberg: it would be nice to have the automatic requirements update job back22:21
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morganfainbergjamielennox, they are working on it22:21
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morganfainbergjamielennox, hopefully they'll get it up and working soon22:22
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jamielennoxmorganfainberg: done22:24
ayoungmorganfainberg, what is in the later version of Sphinx?22:25
morganfainbergayoung, not sure, it was released today and well... broke everything22:25
jamielennoxdolphm: when you have some time have a look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60408/ this is something we discussed previously with redirecting 305s. Requests does some weird things with forwarding 301 and 302 whereby it changes POSTs into GETs.22:25
morganfainbergayoung, it seems to change how docs are built somehow.22:25
jamielennoxdolphm: so is that handling correct?22:25
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jamielennoxanyone else is obviously welcome as well22:26
morganfainbergayoung, global requirements has added the pin to <1.2 so check/gate can pass22:26
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clarkbmorganfainberg: ayoung: jeblair put details in the commit message at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61172/22:30
morganfainbergclarkb, thanks!22:30
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SpamapShrm, trying to figure out at what point in nova-compute's start-up that it reveals itself to the scheduler23:13
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SpamapSI think bug 1244255 may be caused by nova compute getting things scheduled on it before neutron-openvswitch-agent is up23:13
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1244255 in neutron/havana "binding_failed because of l2 agent assumed down" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124425523:13
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ayoungmorganfainberg, clarkb are we in a catch 22 situation, where nothing is going to pass because the commits for server and client have to happen in conjunction?23:51
clarkbI don't think so23:52
clarkbintegration testing is always done with the global requirements regardless of what individual projects think they want23:52
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