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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, responded to your in-line comments on the keyvaluestore refactor | 03:17 |
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| jamielennox | morganfainberg: regarding get_multi that was my assumption - that was what dogtag must have returned - still the dict is a better result though | 03:35 |
| jamielennox | i guess it depends on how many you expect multi to be | 03:35 |
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| jamielennox | i can see the useful method of a, b, c = x.get_multi(['a', 'b', 'c']) but it's not that great once you're talking many results | 03:36 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, true | 03:51 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, my concern is more that dogpile backends wont always return that, if I were to implemnet it i'd implement that mechanism at the KeyValueStore object | 03:51 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, no issue doing so if you think that is a better / friendlier UX | 03:52 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: yea, that's ok stick with the dogpile means for now | 03:52 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: it's easy enough to add a function later that just wraps that with a zip() on keys | 03:52 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, exactly. i'm all for friendly UX / developer experience | 03:53 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, but it really depends on if it's worth it (e.g. in this case i am not sure it is) | 03:53 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: i've got something unrelated. Say with auth plugins i need a function that goes and does the actual calling server job - if i can't call it authenticate() what else is there? | 03:54 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, so, in context, it isn't "authenticate" it's "do_something_and_validate_credentials_are_good"? | 03:55 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, before i try and come up with a name that is. | 03:55 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: yea, it's the call server with parameters, validate response, save response | 03:55 |
| jamielennox | the @abstractmethod that a plugin will need to implement | 03:55 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, hmm. | 03:56 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: i have a hack that will make it easier to work in with the current client, but authenticate() already exists on the client | 03:56 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, validate_credentials? auth_against_server? | 03:56 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, hm.. do_authentication ? | 03:57 |
| jamielennox | do_authentication is what i'm using now :) | 03:57 |
| jamielennox | it's not bad | 03:57 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, that one seems reasonable. | 03:57 |
| jamielennox | or do_authenticate i think | 03:57 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, authentication_action | 03:58 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, action_authenticate (go team!) | 03:58 |
| * morganfainberg feels like we slipped into an anime with that last one | 03:58 | |
| jamielennox | go_go_gadget_authenticate | 03:58 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, you could use something like plugin_auth | 03:59 |
| morganfainberg | since it's a plugin mechanism | 03:59 |
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| morganfainberg | "do_<something>" is an easy nameing mechanism, but i don't _like_ it. hard to come up with another good one since the clear "choice" is already used | 03:59 |
| jamielennox | yea, my thoughts exactly | 04:00 |
| morganfainberg | you... could do something evil and decorate the authenticate method and if the proper argspec is passed to it, you use the new implementation (don't do this... it's just an option, but no, don't) | 04:00 |
| jamielennox | create an in-between object, that does nothing but provide an authenticate method then call off to the other method i need | 04:01 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, effectively, but that is so dirty | 04:01 |
| jamielennox | meh, the whole thing at this point is so ugly... | 04:02 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: though, it is a bit overkill just for wanting to reuse a function name | 04:02 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, it is. simplest solution, use a new method/function name | 04:03 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, and move on ;) | 04:03 |
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| rushiagr | hi folks | 06:52 |
| rushiagr | this is regarding devstack | 06:53 |
| rushiagr | I installed devstack around a week ago | 06:53 |
| rushiagr | and killed the processes running inside the screen | 06:53 |
| rushiagr | if I want to install latest devstack, can I just 'git pull' in all the repositories at /opt/stack/ and do a ./rejoin-stack.sh? | 06:54 |
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| jamielennox | rushiagr: i'd suggest doing an ./unstack.sh then pull in the devstack dir then redo ./stack.sh | 07:22 |
| jamielennox | devstack will handle updating things in /opt/stack | 07:22 |
| rushiagr | jamielennox: thanks. I got the answer in another forum | 07:22 |
| rushiagr | jamielennox: the method you suggest wont update the repositories located at /opt/stack. | 07:22 |
| jamielennox | rushiagr: ah, possibly | 07:23 |
| rushiagr | jamielennox: the simple solution is add 'RECLONE=yes' into localrc, and devstack will handle updating repositories :) | 07:23 |
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| mflobo | hi, I'm trying to install devstack on SL6 and ./stack raises me this message: [ERROR] ./stack.sh:137 If you wish to run this script anyway run with FORCE=yes | 10:36 |
| mflobo | how can I add this argument to ./stack.sh? | 10:37 |
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| mflobo | I tried: ./stack.sh --FORCE=yes but it does not work | 10:37 |
| rushiagr | mflobo: maybe add 'FORCE=yes' into localrc file? | 10:39 |
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| soren | mflobo: FORCE=yes ./stack.sh | 10:41 |
| mflobo | rushiagr: I do not have a localrc file | 10:42 |
| mflobo | soren: your option raises me another message: You are running this script as root. Cut it out. Really. If you need an account to run DevStack, do this (as root, heh) to create stack: /root/devstack/tools/create-stack-user.sh | 10:43 |
| mflobo | Can I not install devstack as root? | 10:44 |
| rushiagr | mflobo: what was the error devstack threw initially, just before telling you to force-run it? | 10:44 |
| mflobo | rushiagr: ]# ./stack.sh WARNING: this script has not been tested on ScientificCERNSLC-6.5. [Call Trace] ./stack.sh:137:die [ERROR] ./stack.sh:137 If you wish to run this script anyway run with FORCE=yes | 10:45 |
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| mflobo | rushiagr: this is all the message | 10:45 |
| soren | mflobo: The message is pretty clear if you ask me. "Cut it out. Really." | 10:46 |
| sgran | it's saying please run on something that devstack has been tested on | 10:48 |
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| mflobo | ok, shame, thank you | 10:49 |
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| sgran | well, you could fix it to work on SL6.5 | 10:53 |
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| sgran | but it might take a little bit of hacking :) | 10:53 |
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| stan_ivanov | Hello guys, I have a nova extension that should persist some small data for later use, how should I go about that? | 12:04 |
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| stan_ivanov | Can I access MySQL and write and read my own data there and is that a good thing to do if you want to persist some information? | 13:42 |
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| dstanek | do you have to be a core committer to mark a bug as a duplicate or am i just missing something obvious? | 16:05 |
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| markmc | dstanek, which project? for nova you just need to join the nova-bugs team | 16:08 |
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| dstanek | markmc: keystone | 16:08 |
| markmc | dstanek, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone and look for "bug supervisor" | 16:08 |
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| markmc | dstanek, looks like keystone-bugs is an open team | 16:09 |
| dstanek | markmc: i'm already on the team :-) so i just must be missing something | 16:09 |
| markmc | dstanek, what are the two bug numbers ? | 16:10 |
| dstanek | markmc: i clicked the edit next to status expecting to find a "mark duplicate" option | 16:10 |
| dstanek | markmc: 1256491 is a duplicate of 1245342 | 16:10 |
| markmc | dstanek, ah, no - "Mark as duplicate" is in the right hand panel of the bug | 16:10 |
| markmc | dstanek, just above "convert to question" | 16:11 |
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| dstanek | markmc: ah i see it thanks! | 16:12 |
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| markmc | dstanek, np | 16:13 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: ping me when you're up | 16:19 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, its 11. I've been up since 7 | 16:20 |
| dolphm | ayoung: ha, i was thinking you were behind me (8am) | 16:20 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, I;m a Masshole. | 16:20 |
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| mtreinish | BobBall: you around? | 16:29 |
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| aloga | russellb: are you online? | 16:35 |
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| russellb | depends why you're asking :) | 16:35 |
| aloga | russellb: too late! :-P | 16:36 |
| aloga | would you be so nice to reconsider your -2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55873/ ? | 16:36 |
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| russellb | aloga: ok, removed | 16:40 |
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| russellb | aloga: perhaps i should be asking if the weighter patch breaks backwards compatibility ... | 16:40 |
| russellb | aloga: as in, do havana configs that work not work after these patches | 16:40 |
| aloga | russellb: awesome! | 16:40 |
| russellb | aloga: also, you should hang out in #openstack-nova ... that's where we talk about nova patches most of the time | 16:40 |
| russellb | ah, you are in there | 16:41 |
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| pmathews | Can I get some feedback on a change to Cinder? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59868/ | 16:56 |
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| dolphm | pmathews: every time i see your name i'm glad i'm not using dmathews as my handle | 16:59 |
| pmathews | ;) | 16:59 |
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| roaet | should I run tempest on the same machine where I have devstack installed (will it install its own devstack anyway)? | 17:04 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: you know people think dolphin when they see your handle... | 17:08 |
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| dolphin | bknudson: problem solved | 17:08 |
| bknudson | dolphin: thanks | 17:09 |
| roaet | nevermind, mlavalle helped me | 17:09 |
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| bknudson | dolphin: tempest doesn't want our crappy tests. | 17:10 |
| dolphin | bknudson: link? | 17:10 |
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| bknudson | dolphin: sdague posted to the mailing list... I responded. | 17:10 |
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| dolphin | bknudson: is that the one that mordred responded to about scenario tests? | 17:11 |
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| bknudson | dolphin: yes. | 17:12 |
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| cfriesen | can someone explain or point me to info on what nova uses nbd for on the compute node? I'm seeing "nbd module not loaded" errors on every instance boot and if I manually modprobe nbd then I get stuff like "block nbd14: Attempted send on closed socket" in the kernel logs. The instances seem to boot fine though, so I'm wondering what this is supposed to be used for. | 17:12 |
| bknudson | dolphin: I did have a few alternative proposals in my response, so something to think about | 17:12 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, dolphin can we move https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59834/3 along? It is the start of a long chain of changes that are going to 1) clean up our KVS approach and 2) be critical path for any internal work we do on the token providers...which means I'll need it for revocations. We have to think that we are short on time, as these need to be in by I2. | 17:19 |
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| ayoung | dolphin? I thought it was Dauphin. | 17:20 |
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| dauphin | this is going poorly for me | 17:22 |
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| dauphin | ayoung: approved | 17:27 |
| ayoung | Thank you, Sire. | 17:27 |
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| bknudson | you won't get away with that title at the paris summit. | 17:28 |
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| Sonny | Hello everybody, is there anyone who know how works the file css of horizon ? I would like to add my own .css to horizon with the class modified, we told me I have to make the @import in horizon.less but does not work now :/ | 17:29 |
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| dauphin | bknudson: it's going to be Princess Dauphiné by then | 17:31 |
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| dauphin | Sonny: did you recompile the .less? | 17:32 |
| Sonny | no :x i did not know it needed to be | 17:32 |
| Sonny | =x | 17:32 |
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| Sonny | =-x | 17:32 |
| Sonny | = x | 17:32 |
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| Sonny | sorrry ^^ | 17:32 |
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| dauphin | Sonny: i'm not sure how horizon recommends doing so, but tools like lessc will take care of it | 17:33 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, kick-@$$ work on the KVS stuff. I think it might be the killer feature this release, ahead of Federation. | 17:33 |
| Sonny | im checking it thank you :) | 17:33 |
| AZBob | Horizon compiles the less stuff on-the-fly. | 17:33 |
| AZBob | There's no need to do it statically. | 17:33 |
| Sonny | so it does not work then :/ | 17:33 |
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| Sonny | http://snipt.org/Bxhh1 | 17:34 |
| dauphin | AZBob: ah, cool -- client side? | 17:34 |
| AZBob | Yes | 17:34 |
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| dauphin | AZBob: only in debug or all the time? | 17:35 |
| pabelanger | Using policy.v3cloudadmin.json with havana kestone, I get the following exceptions: http://pastebin.com/KKn8ccLy I assume that is not good | 17:36 |
| AZBob | All the time. | 17:36 |
| AZBob | Way. | 17:36 |
| AZBob | Wait* | 17:36 |
| AZBob | Um... | 17:36 |
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| AZBob | Sonny: did you modify openstack_dashboard/templates/_stylesheets.html to link to your customized .less file that itself imports the horizon.less file? | 17:41 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, glad you're liking it | 17:44 |
| morganfainberg | dauphin, nice name | 17:45 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, can we get Dauphiné on the badge for Paris summit? Know anyone in the foundation that will help? ;) | 17:48 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: the wife of the heir to the throne of france? | 17:52 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, lol | 17:54 |
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| Sonny | AZBob a customized .less ? so I should compile my new.css as a new.less ? for the moment i just made a new.css | 18:04 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, OK, so I am dealing with revocations, which means that I need to capture certain events that happen in the other controllers, such as a DELETE of a token in the token or auth, disable user, group, trust, project, tor Domain in identity/assignement, and so on. I'm thinking that I need to disable the existing logic, especially for "list tokens for users" and the like or the revocation backend is not going to be | 18:08 |
| ayoung | worth having | 18:08 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, right. | 18:09 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, does it make sense to have a config option "v2_revocations" default to Enabled in Icehouse, and then we can default to disable in J? | 18:09 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, That seems like a sane approach. | 18:09 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, so that means that I need to buing on the reworking that you are doing for the tokens, right? | 18:10 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, that would be how i approach it actually | 18:10 |
| pabelanger | using the following policy rule in keystone: "cloud_admin": "rule:admin_required and domain_id:admin_domain_id", how does the policy file know of 'admin_domain_id'... or is this the actually ID we need to setup in keystone and assign admins too? | 18:10 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, IE, if v2_revocations are disabled, don't create the index pages. | 18:10 |
| harlowja | any keystone have a folks for a few questions? | 18:10 |
| harlowja | *have a few seconds for a few questions | 18:10 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, yes, it should be an easy to hook into the new kvs token stuff. SQL doe4sn't really matter. | 18:10 |
| stevemar | harlowja, we have no folks, but we have minutes | 18:11 |
| harlowja | ha | 18:11 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, right, SQL can stay as is | 18:11 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, hopefully that KVS code isn't too far off. | 18:11 |
| AZBob | Sonny: Just create something like "mystyles.less" and put "@import horizon.less"; at the top, and change _stylesheets.html's link to "horizon.less" to "mystyles.less" Then, put all of your class overrides in "mystyles.less" | 18:11 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, keeeeeeeeeeeystooooooonnneeeee | 18:11 |
| harlowja | :) | 18:11 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, i mean Hi | 18:11 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, just making sure I have the dependencies right. I think I can do a first take of the revocation code without waiting on KVS | 18:11 |
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| ayoung | I can put off the "disable v2" until KVS is in | 18:11 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, actually, i think you can do that option as a separate patchset almost orthogonal to your revocation work | 18:12 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i _think_ if i'm understanding it. | 18:12 |
| morganfainberg | since it should work fine side-by-side...just useless to do so | 18:12 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, yeah...and I might be able to prep for it. I wonder if I can do the revocation API first, the automatic triggereind of revocation events second, and the disable of v2 3rd. | 18:13 |
| harlowja | so at y! there has been some desire to accomplish the following, i haven't dug into how much of keystone (or other [nova]) could pull it off, the basic idea is that certain groups @ y! want to be able to setup there own control over a tenant, but not only that, they want to in a way setup a mini-cloud inside the bigger cloud, this mini-cloud they would be able to add admins, remove users, add users, basically full control of there | 18:13 |
| harlowja | own mini-clouds users (and permissions), it seems simialr to the VPC concept (but i'm not so familar with it), was wondering how much of that is possible? | 18:13 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, that seems like a sane approach. | 18:13 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, this sounds like the current concept of Domains and some custom policy.json work. similar to our v3 cloud policy example | 18:14 |
| harlowja | ah, k, let me check out the domains stuff :) | 18:14 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, for example: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/etc/policy.v3cloudsample.json | 18:14 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I had started some reworking of the Token provider. What is getting in my way (at least triggering my OCD) is the fact that the v2 and v3 calls to the token provider are so different. But if I delay the automatic registry of events, I can hold off on that until after KVS as well | 18:14 |
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| harlowja | intersting thx morganfainberg , i assume https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Domains is the other good doc about it? | 18:15 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, that looks like a good resource ;) | 18:15 |
| harlowja | ok dokie, let me do some reading and stuff morganfainberg, thx | 18:15 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, right. i ran into that when dealing with caching (which resulted in some more uglyness) | 18:16 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, you could probably do the provider refactor without affecting the backends significantly | 18:16 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, if that really is in the way. | 18:16 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I think I want to make it a single API call, and leave the existing ones in there deprecated | 18:16 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, yeah, I started that... | 18:17 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, hm. single api call would be nice. | 18:17 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, yeah, i'd probably go for the API then work on the event stuff. | 18:17 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I posted one change to that series... | 18:17 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i saw, it's on the short list to review for me. | 18:17 |
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| morganfainberg | (ok ok, it's on the long list...but the list keeps getting longer) | 18:18 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57091/ | 18:18 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, take a quick look at that one, as it is ready to go, and simple | 18:18 |
| morganfainberg | nod. was planning on it today | 18:18 |
| morganfainberg | since i got the kvs token backends up for review | 18:18 |
| ayoung | and...needs a rebase....one sec | 18:18 |
| morganfainberg | then on to the domain cleanup (multi-idp/ldap) stuff | 18:19 |
| * morganfainberg apologizes to everyone for posting a 1000+ line patchset, but it's hard to cover the minimums w/o it. | 18:19 | |
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| sjcazzol_ | Someone could please take a look to this review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59725/ | 18:24 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, the stuff moved into providers.common is just copy/paste from the uuid one right? | 18:25 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, yes | 18:25 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ok, it looked like it. | 18:25 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, the only change is that "get_id" is split | 18:25 |
| morganfainberg | nod | 18:25 |
| morganfainberg | oh. boo | 18:26 |
| morganfainberg | abstract base class didn't hit the provider(s) | 18:26 |
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| morganfainberg | *mutter* | 18:26 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, is the call to super in __init__ for the provider uuid needed? | 18:27 |
| morganfainberg | i mean.. is __init__ needed to just call super().__init__? | 18:27 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57091/2/keystone/token/providers/uuid.py | 18:27 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, looking...I have some sort of merge issue, due to the changes in uuid,py that have happend in the interim | 18:27 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, it does not seem to be necessary, as it is no change in signature... | 18:28 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, once this is merged i'll hit the providers with abcMeta work as well. | 18:28 |
| ayoung | that makes sense | 18:28 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, since it looks like this one got missed. | 18:28 |
| ayoung | yep | 18:28 |
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| morganfainberg | ooh can we deprecate the token_format config option this cycle? | 18:29 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: I thought it was deprecated already? | 18:30 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i mean... remove it that is | 18:30 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, wrong words ;) | 18:30 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: btw - I changed devstack to not use it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56824/ | 18:31 |
| morganfainberg | i'd love to see that big block of comparison for token_format = provider driver be removed. | 18:31 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, ++ yay! | 18:31 |
| morganfainberg | oh we need to keep the option until havana +2... so J. | 18:31 |
| morganfainberg | ok... | 18:31 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: does the docstring say when it can be removed? | 18:32 |
| morganfainberg | Havana +2 | 18:32 |
| bknudson | ok, great | 18:32 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: no need to take that out; i was just curious | 18:32 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: re: assertSetEquals | 18:33 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, if there was a good reason not to add it, i was content for the base Equals...I just like better data in tests :) | 18:33 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think i'm going to smash the datestamps all down to isotime strings in KVS and have .get_token rehydrate them into datetime objects... i don't want to fight with the backends doing something wonky. | 18:34 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, unless you think that isn't worth it. | 18:35 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, so long as conversions are not lossy, I think that is an OK strategy | 18:35 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, nope, timeutils.isotime(subsecond=True) isn't lossy | 18:35 |
| ayoung | and if they are lossy...we have bigger problems... | 18:35 |
| ayoung | OK, so only store strings in memcache for dates? | 18:36 |
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| morganfainberg | thats my thought | 18:36 |
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| morganfainberg | it means we don't need conditional logic to say "if isstr, parse_isotime, normalize" | 18:36 |
| ayoung | I assume that will not affect the automatic clean up of Tokens based on expiration time, as that should be configured separately , but figure I should ask. | 18:36 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, nope. wont affect automatic expirations | 18:36 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, that is handled based upon the CONF.token.expiration_time now | 18:37 |
| ayoung | ++ | 18:37 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, cool, i'll add that as a separate patchset in the chain when i come back to this (giving it a little time to bake and get reviews before I do a mass-rebase) | 18:38 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: not sure how i missed this http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/identity/core.py#n532 | 18:59 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, i need to provide some tests for that, and i should fix the 'I' string with deprecated.ICEHOUSE | 18:59 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, *scribbles notes on the todolist* | 19:00 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: i'm rewriting it to use the oslo deprecated decorator now | 19:01 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, ah cool | 19:01 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, that got in? | 19:01 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: yes, over the weekend | 19:01 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, guess that means i'll need another patchset for my KVS refactor ;) | 19:01 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: the what in that like is incorrect; is the in_favor_of correct? | 19:01 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, how is the "what" incorrecT? | 19:01 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, i might have misread the decorator? | 19:02 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: calling identity_api.get_roles_for_user_and_project will say that identity_api.list_projects_for_user is being deprecated | 19:02 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, correct, it is | 19:02 |
| morganfainberg | that is an assignment call | 19:04 |
| morganfainberg | the caller should use assignment_api.list_projects_for_user not identity_api.list_projects_for_user | 19:04 |
| dstanek | right, but i'll get that message if i call get_roles_for_user_and_project | 19:04 |
| dstanek | i think it's a copy/paste issue, but i wanted to confirm | 19:04 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, oh yes, that is a copy-paste issue | 19:04 |
| dstanek | it's the only one that uses a what that is different from the method being deprecated | 19:04 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, i see now. | 19:04 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: ok, consider it fixed in my patch | 19:04 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, cool | 19:05 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59834/ just merged (fyi) | 19:06 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, which also uses the @deprecated decorator | 19:06 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: thanks for the warning. i'll rebase my stuff on it and fix it too | 19:07 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, cool | 19:07 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, got a moment to talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60724/3/tempest/scenario/test_keystoneclient.py ? I think I know a way we can make this less painful | 19:11 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: sure! | 19:13 |
| bknudson | my goal with that was to just take test_keystoneclient.py as is. | 19:14 |
| ayoung | bknudson, so the only thing we need to keep is the variable names themselves | 19:14 |
| ayoung | the issue is all the fixurtres | 19:14 |
| ayoung | so instead of user_foo having id 'foo' we initialize it with uuid4 | 19:14 |
| ayoung | the test will still call it user foo, we just always refer to it by self.user_foo['id'] and never check that it is actually 'foo' | 19:15 |
| ayoung | should keep the tests intact, and only change the fixture setup and teardown | 19:15 |
| ayoung | bknudson, make sense? | 19:15 |
| bknudson | ayoung: yes, but there was a tricky part ... let me see if I can find the line | 19:16 |
| ayoung | bknudson, project_name ='BAR' instead would be | 19:16 |
| ayoung | self.project_bar['name'] | 19:16 |
| ayoung | line 79 | 19:16 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: ok, the part that I was worried about was something that I'd worked around... https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/tests/test_keystoneclient.py#L90 | 19:18 |
| bknudson | that code used to loop through the USER fixtures to find the user... but I changed it to not use the fixtures anymore. | 19:18 |
| bknudson | the problem is when using the client I don't think you can set the ID. | 19:19 |
| ayoung | bknudson, thanks for doing that. I added a bunch of keystone core onto the review request | 19:19 |
| bknudson | I was just happy to get something working to begin with. | 19:19 |
| ayoung | bknudson, dolphm we can drop the Kc11 tests for Icehouse, right? | 19:20 |
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| bknudson | when was keystoneclient 0.1.1 released? | 19:21 |
| ayoung | wait, I am thinkin API, not client. | 19:21 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, anyway, I think we can drop that test explicitly for now, and we'll have to work in the manager thing that monty is coding up | 19:23 |
| bknudson | ayoung: drop the test from keystone? | 19:24 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, just the dead "pass" class from the test, and we'll get the multi-version of the client from monty's change | 19:24 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: what about essex-3? | 19:25 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, I think that has fallen out of the Window we need to support, but confirm with dolphm | 19:25 |
| bknudson | ayoung: the Kc11TestCase class runs the tests that are defined in KeystoneClientTests. | 19:26 |
| ayoung | bknudson, just do it in the KeystoneClientTests directly | 19:26 |
| bknudson | ayoung: ok. | 19:27 |
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| insanidade | hi all. anyone successfully installed Telemetry on Red Hat ? | 19:43 |
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| russellb | insanidade: you might find #rdo helpful | 19:47 |
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| insanidade | thanks, russellb | 19:48 |
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| pabelanger | So, after reading the code, it does infact look like to be a cloud_admin the domain id should be set to admin_domain_id: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/etc/policy.v3cloudsample.json#L3 | 20:07 |
| pabelanger | but still having 403 issues | 20:08 |
| dolphm | ayoung: kc11 was around essex afaik | 20:08 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: bknudson: is this part of the migration to tempest, or you have a failing test against kc11 or something? | 20:09 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, migration to tempest I think the short of it will be that we have to move all the tests over to Tempest, and ensure that the coverage matrix for client vs server versions = now - what can be deprecated | 20:10 |
| ayoung | then we can kill the tests from the client repo | 20:10 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: i figured we'd be writing a few new tests at a time and dropping corresponding tests from test_keystoneclient as we went until there were none left | 20:15 |
| dolphm | ayoung: doing it all at once sounds unrealistic | 20:15 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, I think the issue is not so much "what functionality is this test exercising" as "which client versionse" and "which server versions" | 20:16 |
| ayoung | dolphm, as bknudson was porting over the test, he left in a stub explicitly for Kc11, which is what started this discussion | 20:17 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: bknudson: when we say we want to move the "tests" into tempest... we really just mean the responsibility of that type of coverage... not a straight copy/paste. it's should require writing new "tests" | 20:26 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, minimal rewrite to get the same coverage, though, means that it should be easier for the Keystone devs to look at an go "yup, same thing covered" | 20:28 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: dolphm: my plan was to try to copy all of the tests from keystone to tempest (or wherever they go). | 20:58 |
| bknudson | that way we know that we've got everything covered | 20:58 |
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| bknudson | and I don't think it will be especially difficult once we've got all the "fixtures" in place (users and tenants that the tests assume) | 20:59 |
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| stevemar | dstanek ping | 21:25 |
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| SpamapS | harlowja: before I dive into the review thing.. what is tooz? | 21:50 |
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| harlowja | ah, SpamapS still being determined afaik to | 21:50 |
| harlowja | SpamapS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60499/3/README.rst | 21:50 |
| ekarlso | :p | 21:50 |
| SpamapS | ty | 21:50 |
| harlowja | the solution to all your problems :-P | 21:51 |
| harlowja | of course, ha | 21:51 |
| SpamapS | zookeeper without the zookeeper? | 21:51 |
| harlowja | well thats nowadays 'raft' | 21:51 |
| harlowja | :) | 21:51 |
| harlowja | http://raftconsensus.github.io/#implementations | 21:51 |
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| harlowja | useful video | 21:51 |
| harlowja | Video: http://www.infoq.com/presentations/raft | 21:51 |
| harlowja | Slides: https://speakerd.s3.amazonaws.com/presentations/7556a1b003d80131e2b062034c419aee/Raft.pdf | 21:51 |
| harlowja | gives a nice overview | 21:52 |
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| SpamapS | ok so is tooz a third python raft? | 21:52 |
| harlowja | nope, i think its an api ontop of all these thigns | 21:52 |
| clarkb | doesn't tooz depend on zookeeper? something proposed a change to install zookeeper on the slaves | 21:52 |
| harlowja | well i'm hoping it doesn't strongly depend on zookeeper | 21:52 |
| harlowja | but one backend for it could be zookeeper | 21:52 |
| harlowja | or raft based impl | 21:52 |
| harlowja | a zookeeper setup on slaves would be nice though :) | 21:53 |
| SpamapS | harlowja: ah ok so a Facade for Raft's adapter? | 21:53 |
| harlowja | or zookeeper, or ... | 21:53 |
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| harlowja | the raft stuff is honestly very new (paper released like march) | 21:54 |
| harlowja | *amazing how many implementations exist though | 21:54 |
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| harlowja | so tooz is the layer that provides useful single api (ontop of many backends) | 21:55 |
| harlowja | or thats what i feel it is (i'm not working on it myself) | 21:55 |
| harlowja | instead of saying 'everyone must use raft' or everyone must use zookeeper.... | 21:56 |
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| harlowja | or everyone must use a sqlite-db (likely not even possible) | 21:56 |
| harlowja | and so-on | 21:56 |
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| yassine | harlowja, o/ thanks for your review :-), yes Tooz is just an API, could you give me a python implementation of RAFT ? Is Raft efficient in read workload as zookeeper ? :) | 21:58 |
| harlowja | yassine all raft stuff idk, its so early to tell | 21:58 |
| harlowja | yassine search for python @ http://raftconsensus.github.io/#implementations | 21:58 |
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| harlowja | raft to new honestly (but has potential) | 21:59 |
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| yassine | harlowja: thanks, as i understood Raft, all requests as served by the current master (reads too) when in zookeeper atomic broadcast read request can be served by slaves :/ | 22:01 |
| harlowja | yassine yes, raft is single master | 22:01 |
| harlowja | part of why its a little early imho to know where raft will end up | 22:02 |
| harlowja | but having a python implemenation is nice for the openstack community | 22:02 |
| harlowja | *since it probably could fit into the infra-team setup better | 22:03 |
| yassine | harlowja: i got a project in mind which is an implementation of Raft or ZAB using ZeroMQ | 22:03 |
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| harlowja | cool, seems like that'd be nice (unsure about ZAB, but raft seems do-able) | 22:04 |
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| harlowja | since if u look @ https://github.com/streed/simpleRaft/tree/master/simpleRaft/messages the messages are simple | 22:04 |
| harlowja | nothing to complicated | 22:05 |
| yassine | yes indeed, ZAB is a little bit more complicated | 22:05 |
| yassine | my main concern with raft is the performance | 22:05 |
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| harlowja | agreed | 22:05 |
| SpamapS | harlowja: thanks for the response. | 22:06 |
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| SpamapS | harlowja: probably worth checking out | 22:07 |
| harlowja | my guess is raft will eventually have to figure out multi-master (in what way is hard to predict) | 22:07 |
| * SpamapS _almost_ just killed the review thread :-P | 22:07 | |
| harlowja | lol | 22:07 |
| harlowja | np SpamapS | 22:07 |
| harlowja | but yassine seems like the raft creator and others are still trying to explore how it will all work | 22:07 |
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| harlowja | the guys paper, https://ramcloud.stanford.edu/wiki/download/attachments/11370504/raft.pdf still says 'Draft of October 7, 2013' so raft still sorta in 'draft-mode' i think | 22:08 |
| yassine | i see | 22:08 |
| yassine | harlowja: the multi-master will quickly complicate the algorithm no ? | 22:09 |
| harlowja | yassine i think so | 22:09 |
| harlowja | then it won't be the 'In Search of an Understandable Consensus Algorithm' paper, ha | 22:10 |
| harlowja | :) | 22:10 |
| harlowja | but time will tell | 22:10 |
| yassine | haha :) | 22:10 |
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| yassine | yes, we should wait and see then :) | 22:10 |
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| harlowja | yup, although i think tooz should see how hard it is to use raft, i think there is always benefit in having 2 impls, then u know your api is pretty well designed | 22:11 |
| harlowja | 2 or 3 impls really (3 is when u get a good feeling that your api is right) | 22:11 |
| yassine | harlowja: what do you think about a memcached backend ? | 22:11 |
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| harlowja | k, for which part i guess is the question | 22:11 |
| harlowja | memcache will have problems with the question of being disconnected from a group | 22:12 |
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| harlowja | the whole liveness question | 22:12 |
| yassine | harlowja: nova can use memcached, the database and zookeeper as a backend | 22:12 |
| yassine | indeed | 22:12 |
| harlowja | memcache as storage, sure | 22:13 |
| harlowja | memcache as atomic storage, even better | 22:13 |
| harlowja | but memcache as way to know if disconnected, or when | 22:13 |
| yassine | i even don't dare to think about the notification mechanism with memcached :/ | 22:13 |
| harlowja | :) | 22:13 |
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| harlowja | ya, what notification system :-P | 22:14 |
| yassine | the same as the watchers in zookeeper | 22:14 |
| harlowja | ya, that was a joke :) | 22:14 |
| yassine | haha | 22:14 |
| harlowja | redis might get u a little farther, but they are like ghetto solutions | 22:15 |
| yassine | why redis would be a better solution than memcached for the disconnection issue ? :/ | 22:16 |
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| harlowja | in that case, ya it wouldn't | 22:17 |
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| harlowja | redis is just getting alot of new features that help in clustering and all that | 22:17 |
| harlowja | http://redis.io/topics/cluster-spec | 22:17 |
| harlowja | so it'd probably work better, memcache is really dumb | 22:17 |
| yassine | i see :) | 22:18 |
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| yassine | i'm struggling with the choice of another backend :), if you have ideas let me know :D | 22:18 |
| harlowja | simpleRaft? | 22:19 |
| harlowja | that one seems to be actively being worked on | 22:19 |
| yassine | is it to early to integrate it on tooz ? | 22:19 |
| yassine | s/to/too | 22:20 |
| harlowja | unsure :-/ | 22:20 |
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| harlowja | man http://redis.io/commands keeps on geting bigger and bigger | 22:20 |
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| harlowja | my guess is with redis u could get pretty far | 22:20 |
| harlowja | since it has things like http://redis.io/commands#set | 22:21 |
| harlowja | and basics like http://redis.io/commands#connection | 22:21 |
| harlowja | that u could use to detect 'death' | 22:21 |
| harlowja | although its still not optimal | 22:22 |
| yassine | mmmhh | 22:22 |
| yassine | interesting | 22:22 |
| harlowja | ya, redis is like the swiss-army knife of stuff, lol | 22:22 |
| harlowja | even has http://redis.io/commands#pubsub, lol | 22:23 |
| harlowja | which u could probably create some type of simple watch with | 22:23 |
| yassine | i'll will check it then (and the other things you provide in the reviews :D, a lot of work :D) | 22:23 |
| harlowja | :) | 22:23 |
| harlowja | sounds great yassine | 22:23 |
| yassine | yea :) | 22:23 |
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| yassine | we will take over the world with tooz :) | 22:23 |
| yassine | haha | 22:23 |
| harlowja | + taskflow, ha ;) | 22:23 |
| harlowja | lol | 22:23 |
| yassine | ^^ | 22:24 |
| harlowja | btw, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54220/28/taskflow/tests/zk_utils.py | 22:24 |
| harlowja | u should be able to use that | 22:24 |
| harlowja | as a client u can use in tooz to simulate most of zookeeper | 22:24 |
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| harlowja | see FakeClient there | 22:24 |
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| yassine | harlowja: yea i'll integrate it in tooz i thing, great work there :) | 22:24 |
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| harlowja | cool, see a test case in that review for how to use, nothing special | 22:25 |
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| harlowja | it should do enough of what u need to be useful | 22:25 |
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| harlowja | *simulated watches, simulated storage... | 22:25 |
| yassine | harlowja: i have to go to sleep (i'm in Paris :)), hope we'll discuss on these stuffs more in details :) | 22:25 |
| harlowja | kk | 22:26 |
| harlowja | sounds great | 22:26 |
| harlowja | :) | 22:26 |
| yassine | cool, i'll check it :) ! | 22:26 |
| yassine | see you ! | 22:26 |
| harlowja | lata | 22:26 |
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| notmyname | ttx: ping | 22:30 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: ok, posted new version https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60724/4/tempest/scenario/test_keystoneclient.py | 22:35 |
| bknudson | took me a while to figure out that I needed to keep doing "client.management_url = self.config.identity.uri" to get tenant.list() to work! | 22:36 |
| harlowja | anyways SpamapS thought u might be interseted in tooz (i think i added u to the review) | 22:36 |
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| harlowja | for heat, or just in general | 22:36 |
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| SpamapS | harlowja: My sincerest hope is just that heat switches to a distributed taskflow before it tries to do more than the locking that is landing now. | 22:53 |
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| harlowja | SpamapS hope++ i just need oslo.messaging to be ready :-? | 22:58 |
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| SpamapS | harlowja: you and the rest of the world | 23:11 |
| harlowja | cause we put up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59144/ | 23:12 |
| harlowja | but its missing the messaging piece (which can't be celery, due to recent ML stuff) | 23:12 |
| harlowja | *recent ML crazyness | 23:12 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, on the topic of domains (earlier discussion) also look at the OS-INHERIT extension, it might provide you with more functionality that will benefit you | 23:12 |
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| harlowja | sweet | 23:12 |
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| harlowja | morganfainberg will look at | 23:12 |
| harlowja | some of our operators are getting tired of being so limited in there roles/tenants, they want a whole group to be 1 tenant and then they control it from there | 23:13 |
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| harlowja | so say, mail is 1 tenant, but mail-dev (is a subtenant) | 23:13 |
| harlowja | with less access | 23:13 |
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| morganfainberg | harlowja, makes perfect sense. That sounds (mostly) doable with policy.json and some good role definitions | 23:14 |
| harlowja | or replace mail with some other y! product :-P | 23:14 |
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| harlowja | cool morganfainberg | 23:14 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, definitely let us know if you run into any major issues with it / bugs. | 23:14 |
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| harlowja | sweet, the question came up recently, and i was like hmmm, i didn't know that openstack had much support | 23:14 |
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| harlowja | *since its basically domains/giving them there own little cloud area | 23:15 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, Keystone V3 is much much better than V2. (I am assuming havana not grizzly) | 23:15 |
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| harlowja | sure morganfainberg we are figuring out how to deploy havana over our grizzly cloud as u speak | 23:15 |
| morganfainberg | harlowja, nice. | 23:15 |
| harlowja | hopefully soon | 23:15 |
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| harlowja | *depending on people, time, issues... | 23:15 |
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| morganfainberg | harlowja, thats how it always is. | 23:16 |
| harlowja | :) | 23:17 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson: why did you need to do that? (catching up) | 23:39 |
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| bknudson | jamielennox: :35357/v2.0/tenants requires admin | 23:40 |
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| bknudson | :5000/v2.0/tenants doesn't require admin | 23:40 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/master/keystoneclient/v2_0/tenants.py#L114 | 23:41 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: yuk | 23:41 |
| jamielennox | is list tenants not an admin operation anyway? | 23:41 |
| bknudson | listing all tenants is an admin operation | 23:41 |
| bknudson | list your tenants isn't an admin operation | 23:41 |
| bknudson | they're both /v2.0/tenants | 23:42 |
| jamielennox | wow, i 've never seen that code - die! | 23:42 |
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| jamielennox | yea, ok - i'm not sure if i have a better way to fix that for now | 23:43 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: the keystoneclient tests in keystone always "kc.management_url = url" https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/tests/test_keystoneclient.py#L78 | 23:43 |
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| jamielennox | the correct way is to say management=False in the request, but i don't think there is anything i can do in the if case | 23:43 |
| bknudson | so I guess that's the only way we want to test. | 23:43 |
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| bknudson | jamielennox: management=False would sure be more obvious. | 23:44 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: that's weird - if you set an endpoint= in the client create then that should be set to the management_url anyway | 23:45 |
| jamielennox | really setting both endpoint and auth_url is kind of broken anyway | 23:45 |
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| bknudson | jamielennox: does the management_url get overwritten from the catalog after auth? | 23:46 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: no | 23:46 |
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| bknudson | jamielennox: why the comment "# have to manually overwrite the management url after authentication" ? | 23:46 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: yes and no now - but if you hard set a management_url or set an endpoint then it should always be used | 23:46 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: does it work without it? | 23:47 |
| jamielennox | it may be fixing a problem from an earlier version of the client | 23:47 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: I haven't tried the keystone client tests without it. | 23:47 |
| bknudson | the tempest tests don't set endpoint= | 23:47 |
| jamielennox | i know there is an old client bug that was to do with overriding the endpoint | 23:47 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: that means that they are actually doing authentication | 23:48 |
| bknudson | jamiehttps://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/scenario/manager.py#L163 | 23:48 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/scenario/manager.py#L163 | 23:48 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson: ok, so they are actually authenticating against keystone, getting a token with a service catalog | 23:49 |
| jamielennox | so they don't need an endpoint= cause they will get it from the catalog | 23:49 |
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| bknudson | I suppose the keystone client tests can't use the catalog. | 23:50 |
| bknudson | because it doesn't know the test server port | 23:50 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson: it would require that setup being done on the server before the tests are run | 23:50 |
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| jamielennox | but generally a lot of tests use the endpoint/token method because they aren't trying to test authentication, they are trying to test a specific operation | 23:51 |
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| jamielennox | using auth_url you need to either stub out the authentication, or it will be a lot of extra work in your tests | 23:52 |
| bknudson | what token do they use? | 23:53 |
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| jamielennox | in keystoneclient i stub out the auth and just return something known, but that's because i just want to know the URL was hit | 23:54 |
| jamielennox | in server probably they create a good token somewhere in an early setup and then just use that one | 23:54 |
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