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| jamielennox | who is the resident wsme expert again? i think dhellmann ran the talk at summit - is anyone awake? | 01:12 |
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| devananda | dhellmann: http://logs.openstack.org/46/57346/2/check/gate-ironic-docs/34ba3af/console.html | 03:16 |
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| mrodden | is anyone aware of why python-neutronclient is using httplib for the v2.0 client instead of httplib2? | 04:03 |
| mrodden | httplib has some issues... | 04:04 |
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| mrodden | nvm i guess its just an import for status code constants | 04:10 |
| mrodden | still seems weird | 04:10 |
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| BobBall | ekarlso: sorry - forgot to change my nick! | 09:36 |
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| ekarlso | BobBall: :p | 09:36 |
| ekarlso | did you se my question ? | 09:36 |
| BobBall | no | 09:36 |
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| ekarlso | how do you guys build OVS for XenServer Core if at all | 09:37 |
| BobBall | Ah | 09:37 |
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| BobBall | we run our xenserver-core tests with linux bridge | 09:37 |
| BobBall | but the OVS should "just build" - xenserver-core is just based on the extisting kernel etc | 09:37 |
| BobBall | since we don't replace the kernel, there shouldn't be anything at all different to base CentOS etc for building OVS. | 09:37 |
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| ekarlso | BobBall: yes you do replace the kernel... | 09:39 |
| ekarlso | xenserver-core uses 3.4.x | 09:39 |
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| BobBall | Ah - I think we use the kernel for Xen4CentOS | 09:40 |
| BobBall | which is a different question | 09:40 |
| BobBall | What's the OVS problem you have? | 09:41 |
| BobBall | I probably can't help, but I'll try | 09:41 |
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| BobBall | The place I know the Xen4CentOS stuff was developed was xen-qa@centos.org | 09:42 |
| BobBall | might be an issue with the config used for it I guess | 09:43 |
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| BobBall | but it's not strictly a Citrix thing | 09:43 |
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| ekarlso | BobBall: ;) | 09:55 |
| ekarlso | BobBall: where there any other packages published then the ones u gave me ? | 09:56 |
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| BobBall | Then xen-c6 repo | 10:01 |
| BobBall | http://wiki.centos.org/QaWiki/Xen4 | 10:01 |
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| ekarlso | BobBall: I meant the xenserver core packagse | 10:02 |
| BobBall | no | 10:02 |
| BobBall | Also got the Akami link now - although you can't get an index.html | 10:03 |
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| ekarlso | BobBall: why don't you guys put up some simple repos ? : ) | 10:03 |
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| BobBall | We probably will | 10:03 |
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| BobBall | but there are a number of uhhh marketing/trademark/commercial issues which are delaying things | 10:04 |
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| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: ping | 12:41 |
| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: hey | 12:41 |
| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: hi, im back with more questions about the notifications | 12:42 |
| sandywalsh | sure thing :) | 12:42 |
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| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: i was discussing with some people here and we think that using the api is not the best solution to notify nova about changes on keystone, it may not be scalable. I'm investigating which implementation would be best on a long run, not just a solution for now. Can you help me figure this out? | 12:52 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: that's a viable concern, depending on the frequency of the updates. Happy to try and help. | 12:53 |
| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: our idea is basically this: we are implementing quotas for domains. The quota information should be stored on keystone, but nova has also this information. When the quotas are changed it will be changed on keystone and it should notify nova that it happened so nova can get the updates | 12:55 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: right | 12:55 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: so, the issue is, how to call into nova. And currently there's only one way: the public api. The second, unsanctioned approach: to call the rpc api directly. | 12:56 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: so, a trusted plugin in Keystone *could* make that call | 12:57 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: that's the highest bandwidth tie-in between the two services. But, keystone has intimate knowledge of the nova queuing system | 12:57 |
| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: and that could make some people nervous | 12:58 |
| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: i see | 12:58 |
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| skraynev | hello all. anybody who has time please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52070/. It's blocking some patches in cinder. | 12:58 |
| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: but, that's the approach Cells takes within Nova. Separate Nova regions communicate via AMQP directly | 12:59 |
| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: what's different is this would be Keystone talking to nova via that trusted relationship. | 12:59 |
| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: this is using the rcp api, right? | 13:00 |
| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: just to make sure im not lost | 13:00 |
| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: rpc, yes | 13:00 |
| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: ok | 13:00 |
| sandywalsh | every service in Nova has a nova.<foo>.api python file, which is the interface to the queuing system | 13:00 |
| sandywalsh | so, scheduler.api, compute.api, db.api, etc | 13:01 |
| sandywalsh | and they take care of putting stuff on the wire and getting a response | 13:01 |
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| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: ok, i think i understand the idea, im still new to openstack, but i think i got it. Going back to notifications, do you think it is too complex to implement? or its just not the best solution for this problem. how do you think the community would react to using the compute.api from keystone to make rpc calls | 13:05 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: re: notifications. I would love to see the services using notifications as a scheme for intercommunication. That effort is being tackled by TaskFlow, but it's a big problem and will take a while to settle out. | 13:07 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: re: acceptance: you're best bet is to put together a blueprint and float it to the Nova/Keystone community via the mailing list. They may have better ideas that don't require coupling. | 13:08 |
| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: thanks | 13:09 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: np ... ping me any time | 13:10 |
| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: i will for sure :) | 13:10 |
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| dot | hello | 13:31 |
| dot | is anyone here using open cloud php ? | 13:31 |
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| sagar_nikam | Hi, How does the NotImplementedError gets propogated to the user (either Horizon UI or nova CLI). I did a pause VM on a VM booted using Nova VMWare driver. This operation is not implemented in the driver. Its throws the NotImplementedError, however as a user I dont see this error | 13:40 |
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| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: using this rpc method from keystone to nova, i would send the changes already right? | 13:42 |
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| k4n0 | hey guys | 13:52 |
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| k4n0 | I have a quick question, i have renamed a nova v3 extension, yet while running integrated tests, nova loads the old extension | 13:53 |
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| EmilienM | garyk: hi, i've answered to your comment, i basically reuse lbaas agent configuration | 13:55 |
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| garyk | EmilienM: thanks. But that seeting is not required. Can you please remove it and i'll approve | 14:06 |
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| rbrady | I'm having an issue with keystone and I'm trying to figure out where I went wrong with configuration. I'm trying to get my cinder volume service working. here's a paste of my current log/setup: http://paste.openstack.org/show/53668/. Any hints or guidance much appreciated. | 14:12 |
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| EmilienM | garyk: ack | 14:20 |
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| EmilienM | garyk: done | 14:22 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: not sure what you mean? | 14:25 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: I'm assuming you would make some sort of call like change_quota(tenant_id, quota) | 14:25 |
| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: yes, thats what i thought. | 14:26 |
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| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: i think the problem with this, is that keystone would need to call all novas to and send the new quotas | 14:27 |
| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: an approach that we were thinking is that all novas would make a request to keystone to get the quota info once it was notified about the change | 14:27 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: perhaps you could use the fan-out queue? That would reach all at once, but there's no guarantee of delivery to all. | 14:33 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: each service connects to a general fan-out queue. I know the schedulers do, not sure about the compute nodes (and then there's the problem of the Conductor in the middle) | 14:33 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: you have the same problem if the compute nodes talk to keystone, they have to be told to do so, and how do you tell them to do that? | 14:34 |
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| garyk | EmilienM: Thanks! | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | garyk: thank you for your review | 14:37 |
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| ekarlso | Should I be seeing this: 2013-11-20 06:39:05.507 ERROR neutron.common.config [-] Unable to load quantum from configuration file /etc/neutron/api-paste.ini. | 14:39 |
| ekarlso | in devstack ? | 14:39 |
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| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: i see what you mean | 14:43 |
| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: how this fan-out queue works? | 14:43 |
| Adri2000 | is openstackclient part of any official programs? (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs) | 14:43 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: there's a unique topic on each class of service which is a fan out queue. Send the message once and all services of that type will get the call. | 14:43 |
| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: trying to find the name ... | 14:44 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/openstack/common/rpc/amqp.py#L589-L615 | 14:46 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: question ... when nova gets the quota call, why do you need to update all the compute nodes? Don't you just have to update the db? | 14:47 |
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| rbrady | Is there anyone familiar with keystone in the room? | 14:47 |
| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: (hmm, regardless you need to accept the call from somewhere and there is no rpc listener on the api nodes, so it would have to go in the scheduler or the conductor or a compute node) | 14:48 |
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| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: i think updating nova db is the point, i just thought each compute node had its own db. | 14:49 |
| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: ah, no. one db for each nova installation (which covers call compute nodes) | 14:50 |
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| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: thats good. a little less overhead than i thought | 14:50 |
| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: so, now I'm thinking your keystone plugin could just update the db directly. | 14:50 |
| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: either you share the secret to the rabbit queue or you share the secret to the db ... pie/cake | 14:51 |
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| dolphm | sandywalsh: but one is an API, the other bypasses any sort of API... pie/axe | 14:52 |
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| sandywalsh | dolphm: you could still call the db.api ... it's bubble-gum and binder-twine no matter what :/ | 14:53 |
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| dolphm | tellesnobrega: i thought your goal was to centralize the storage of quotas? that doesn't sound like what you're pursuing at all | 14:55 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega: could we expire the token if the quota changes? Or is that ugly? | 14:58 |
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| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: im not sure how other people more involved would see it, but i think it may work | 15:03 |
| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: im going to eat lunch, i will be back in a bit | 15:03 |
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| tellesnobrega | dolphm: the idea is to centralize it, but we need a way to update the info on nova, so it wont need to check with keystone everytime some quota is needed | 15:05 |
| tellesnobrega | dolphm: i will be back in a bit | 15:05 |
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| sandywalsh | tellesnobrega, yeah, at this point I think you should hit openstack-dev with the problem. Others will likely have better insights. | 15:19 |
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| ayoung | today is reviewendnesday | 15:33 |
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| tellesnobrega | sandywalsh: thanks, i will | 15:56 |
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| tellesnobrega | dolphm: did you understando why i need to update tables on nova? | 15:56 |
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| tellesnobrega | dolphm: just checking | 15:58 |
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| dolphm | tellesnobrega: sandywalsh: my understanding from the (brief) summit conversation (and i'm extrapolating a bit here), was that keystone would provide centralized persistence & management for quotas, an API for other services to retrieve those quotas on startup or whatever, and emit event notifications when quotas changed so that other services could be kept up to date | 16:00 |
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| dolphm | tellesnobrega: sandywalsh: i assumed that meant that nova would not bother to store quotas in any db anymore, as the data could just be kept in memory, and reloaded from keystone as necessary | 16:00 |
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| tellesnobrega | tellesnobrega: thats exactly it | 16:01 |
| tellesnobrega | dolphm: we were brainstorming about the need of storing the information on nova db | 16:01 |
| dolphm | tellesnobrega: but it sounds like my assumption is not correct at all -- you want to persist quotas in more than one place, which means maintaining two management interfaces (one in keystone, and one in nova)? | 16:02 |
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| dolphm | (the exact same approach makes sense for centralizing & distributing policy rulesets) | 16:04 |
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| tellesnobrega | dolphm: what we want is to allow changes on quotas to be made on keystone and nova db would just be a mirror of this keystone db, updated whenever keystone was | 16:06 |
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| dolphm | tellesnobrega: why do you need to involve nova's db at all? | 16:07 |
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| dolphm | tellesnobrega: that just seems to be adding complexity where you have an opportunity to eliminate it | 16:07 |
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| ayoung | dolphm_afk, tellesnobrega sounds like you want a Quota cache in Nova, and you are using the DB for cache. Its up to Nova whether that is an appropriate approach, but sounds suspect to me. | 16:23 |
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| tiamar | ayoung, dolphm_afk : I'm helping tellesnobrega on this - the current quota implementation have tables for quota, reservations and usages - while it is possible to keep quota hard_limits in memory, I dont believe it is possible to reservation and usages | 16:29 |
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| ayoung | tiamar, why keep it in the database on the nova side, then? | 16:29 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: ++ | 16:31 |
| dolphm | tiamar: that sounds right -- reservations and usages should stay in the db | 16:31 |
| dolphm | and really shouldn't be impacted by this effort at all? | 16:31 |
| tiamar | ayoung: the main reason is to avoid unecessary requests to keystone, other is to avoid errors in case of failures | 16:31 |
| dolphm | tiamar: the main reason for what? | 16:32 |
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| dolphm | tiamar: and what kinds of errors / failures? | 16:32 |
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| dolphm | (i feel like i'm missing some context) | 16:32 |
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| tiamar | dolphm: ayoung asked me reasons to keep quota info in DB and not in memory | 16:33 |
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| devananda | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57346/1 -- but it's failing with "list index out of range" | 16:34 |
| ayoung | tiamar, should stay in *a* DB, but why in the Nova one, and not just refetch from Keystone when required. | 16:34 |
| ayoung | and, why is hard limits any different from the other data? | 16:34 |
| dolphm | tiamar: how does caching quota information in the db prevent any calls to keystone? | 16:34 |
| dolphm | either way it's a cache and can't be trusted any more than it can be trusted in memory | 16:35 |
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| tiamar | ayoung: it is the reservation and usages that we understood as different from hard limits - to have a track for then is good for the user and developer. Mimic the current implementations eases the learning of the new implementation. | 16:40 |
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| tiamar | dolphm: at the time (grizzly) we didn't want to add a cache for quotas and we didn't indentify a cache implementation in use by nova we could use - so we opted for DB. | 16:44 |
| stevemar | ayoung says my spec is coming along, boo-yah | 16:44 |
| dolphm | tiamar: openstack/requirements contains dogpile.cache today | 16:45 |
| tiamar | dolphm: thanks! I will take this back to the team | 16:46 |
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| dsantos_ | dolphm, ayoung, tellesnobrega: I guess if we have the tables for reservations and usages in keystone's database and keep the information in memory for nova, it would be a problem to sync information between nova and keystone | 17:07 |
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| dolphm | dsantos_: yeah, i just see it as additional complexity / another point of failure | 17:08 |
| tellesnobrega | dsantos_: i agree with you | 17:08 |
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| dsantos_ | dolphm: I think these tables should stay in nova and just the hard_limits would be in keystone | 17:09 |
| tellesnobrega | dolphm: leaving usages and reservation on nova reduces the complexity of implementation and overall overhead on exchanging this information | 17:09 |
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| ayoung | dsantos_, yeah. database is not a cache. Take a look at how we are using Dogpile in Keystone. I never would have said OK to the "live" data being in Keystone. Just the admin side of things. I think we are all aligned here. | 17:09 |
| dsantos_ | dolphm: in this case the quota information in keystone could be passed in the request and we could get the information in the context | 17:09 |
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| dsantos_ | ayoung: sure | 17:11 |
| ayoung | we could put quota info into the token if it makes sense. But just the hard limits. It would avoid making an unecessary call to Keystone. If the quota is linked to a project, it makes sense. | 17:11 |
| * ayoung has jus opened the can. THe worms are now everywhere | 17:11 | |
| ayoung | It would be an extension, and an optimization. Not the default first implementation, mind you | 17:11 |
| dsantos_ | ayoung: that's what I was wondering | 17:12 |
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| flaper87 | dtroyer: ping | 17:15 |
| tellesnobrega | ayoung: does it make sense to have quotas linked to domain also being passed in the token? | 17:15 |
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| dtroyer | flaper87: /me is alive | 17:16 |
| flaper87 | dtroyer: w000t :) | 17:17 |
| ayoung | tellesnobrega, I think so. If the quota information is relevant to the request, it would be packed in. Lets see what the patterns are for how they are requested in practice, and then think about tokenizing the data based on the actual patterns | 17:17 |
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| rpodolyaka | hey, could someone check this out? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1251784/comments/9 | 17:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1251784 in tripleo "nova+neutron scheduling error: Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached" [Critical,New] | 17:17 |
| flaper87 | dtroyer: sorry for doing this but, when you get a chance, could you please take a look here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47999/ | 17:17 |
| tellesnobrega | ayoung: ok | 17:18 |
| rpodolyaka | have I found the issue? or I am totally wrong? :) | 17:18 |
| dtroyer | flaper87: sure…I think I glanced at it yesterday, looked good then but I haven't had a chance to run it yet | 17:18 |
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| flaper87 | dtroyer: awesome, thanks a lot! Just want to make sure we're on the right track there. | 17:19 |
| flaper87 | dtroyer: cheers | 17:19 |
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| dsantos_ | ayoung, tellesnobrega: I think if possible it's better than using notifications, right? Using notifications nova or other services could lost the notifications and also the implementation is not so clean | 17:21 |
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| tellesnobrega | dsantos_, ayoung: maybe, using the token we would need to expire it anytime the hard_limit changed on keystone and nova would need to request a new one | 17:22 |
| ayoung | tellesnobrega, expire->revoke | 17:23 |
| tellesnobrega | ayoung: sorry | 17:23 |
| ayoung | just clarifying...but I think that is the right approach...for J. Or even K. | 17:23 |
| ayoung | We are not going to have a change like that in Keystone for Icehouse. | 17:24 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: i see | 17:27 |
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| dsantos_ | bnemec: ping | 17:30 |
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| tiamar | ayoung: on the token with quota information: from keeping the token responde on getting fat we could have a parameter to ask for quota in token response - is to this extension you refer to ? | 17:32 |
| tellesnobrega | ayoung: what did you mean by (It would be an extension, and an optimization. Not the default first implementation, mind you) when you were talking about the token containing the quota hard_limit | 17:32 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: sorry, tiamar asked the same thing | 17:32 |
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| ayoung | tellesnobrega, tiamar difference between a bacon and eggs breakfast. The Chicken is involved, but the Pig is committed. Lets get quotas working using "pull techniques" first. | 17:34 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: got it | 17:34 |
| tiamar | +1 | 17:34 |
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| cfriesen_ | hopefully simple question. In log messages of the form LOG.error(_('message %(variable)s'),{'variable':variable}) is there a way to get it to include the function name and line number in the log? | 17:50 |
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| sgran | yes, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10973362/python-logging-function-name-file-name-line-number-using-a-single-file | 17:52 |
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| cfriesen_ | sgran: thanks | 18:02 |
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| dsantos_ | bnemec: r u there? | 18:04 |
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| bnemec | dsantos_: yeah, sorry, was on a call. | 18:05 |
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| dsantos_ | bnemec: no problem... sorry for bothering you | 18:06 |
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| bnemec | dsantos_: No worries, I'm done now. | 18:06 |
| dsantos_ | bnemec: nice. I saw your comments in this review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55938. I agree with you about that, but I actually don't know how do not log the domain information if the keystone api is v2 | 18:07 |
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| dolphm | dsantos_: all activity on v2 applies to the default domain -- that's the only purpose of the "default" domain | 18:08 |
| dsantos_ | dolphm: yeah, but the information about domain is not in the context | 18:08 |
| dsantos_ | dolphm: sorry, the information is not in the token... in the request header | 18:08 |
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| dolphm | dsantos_: (i'm looking at the review now) | 18:09 |
| bnemec | Maybe we could change the defaults for those values from None to "default" or something. | 18:09 |
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| bnemec | Just so it doesn't look like there's a problem. | 18:09 |
| dolphm | bnemec: outside of keystone, you can only guess what the v2 domain is | 18:10 |
| dsantos_ | bnemec: but if the token's scope is "project", for example, I think you'll see the information in X_PROJECT_DOMAIN_ID but not in X_USER_DOMAIN_ID | 18:10 |
| dolphm | bnemec: which domain serves v2 is actually configurable, and just happens to default to "default" | 18:10 |
| dsantos_ | in this case we could have logged "default" for one of the information and another value for others | 18:11 |
| bnemec | Ah, okay. Thanks. | 18:11 |
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| dolphm | dsantos_: bnemec: the domain-related bits in that patch all lgtm | 18:12 |
| dsantos_ | bnemec: so do you have some other suggestion? the only thing I though was "if all the domain variables in the context are None, we do not log the information" | 18:12 |
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| dolphm | dsantos_: bnemec: i can't comment on the patch itself though :) | 18:12 |
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| bnemec | dolphm: Thanks. | 18:13 |
| bnemec | dsantos_: Yeah, I don't know. | 18:13 |
| dolphm | dsantos_: no domain information is valid to me | 18:13 |
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| bnemec | I'm not really an expert on Python logging so I'm not sure if there's a way to make that optional. | 18:13 |
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| dolphm | dsantos_: guessing at the domain information would be infuriating to debug if you guessed wrong | 18:13 |
| * bnemec google Python format strings | 18:13 | |
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| dolphm | bnemec: i don't think there's 'optional' -- especially in log formats | 18:14 |
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| bnemec | dsantos_: What if we defaulted those to an empty string? | 18:14 |
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| bnemec | Then if we don't have that information they just don't show up. | 18:14 |
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| dolphm | bnemec: then you just get a bunch of unparseable whitespace in the log message | 18:15 |
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| dolphm | dsantos_: bnemec: you're never going to have a domain and tenant/project in context together either -- they're mutually exclusive | 18:16 |
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| dolphm | dsantos_: bnemec: project_domain_id won't be provided with domain_id either, user_domain_id will (currently) always be provided by v3 | 18:17 |
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| bnemec | Hmm, I wonder if we need another logging type to handle v2 vs v3. | 18:17 |
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| bnemec | dolphm: So you won't ever get all three at once? | 18:18 |
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| dolphm | bnemec: never | 18:18 |
| bnemec | Even more fun. :-) | 18:18 |
| dolphm | bnemec: there will a project/tenant XOR a domain in scope | 18:19 |
| dsantos_ | dolphm, bnemec: I didn't know that... can we remove the information in "extra" and "kwargs" ? | 18:19 |
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| dsantos_ | I was thinking something like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/53690/ | 18:21 |
| ayoung | dolphm, jenkins seems to hate us today | 18:21 |
| bnemec | Okay, so the valid combinations of parameters would be [tenant, project_domain_id] and [domain_id, user_domain_id] ? | 18:21 |
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| dolphm | bnemec: it's more complicated than that :) | 18:22 |
| ayoung | what is this tenant of which you speak? | 18:22 |
| bnemec | Of course it is. :-) | 18:22 |
| ayoung | there is no tenant, only zuul..er projects | 18:22 |
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| bnemec | I'm not sure I'm concerned enough about this to go much further down this rabbit hole. ;-) | 18:22 |
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| bnemec | Especially if it's going to result in ridiculously complex logging code that needs to know a lot about how Keystone works. | 18:23 |
| bnemec | I think I'd rather just log all the things and live with a few Nones in the output. | 18:23 |
| dolphm | bnemec: i think this is comprehensive... http://pasteraw.com/2aiq161shvez4f196d382fevjnw5mz1 | 18:24 |
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| dsantos_ | bnemec: that's what I was thinking... we should just check whether the value is there or not and make some decision, I think | 18:24 |
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| bnemec | ayoung: The zull queue is rather impressive today. :-) | 18:25 |
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| bnemec | *zuul | 18:25 |
| bnemec | Bah | 18:25 |
| ayoung | bnemec, cuz everything is failing and there are all "recheck bug #" happening now due to the elastic recheck | 18:26 |
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| bnemec | ayoung: Better than recheck no bug, I guess. | 18:27 |
| bnemec | At least we know the culprits now. | 18:27 |
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| bnemec | dolphm: Thanks for the link. | 18:28 |
| dolphm | bnemec: dsantos_: or with unscoped tokens... http://pasteraw.com/ax8tqlxcxtbrto5wa1p1d281wc5us42 | 18:28 |
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| dsantos_ | dolphm: thanks | 18:28 |
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| bnemec | dolphm: Okay, so even with v2 there are cases where the tenant token would be None? | 18:29 |
| bnemec | Err, token was a poor choice of words here. | 18:30 |
| bnemec | The log format has a tenant parameter, and in some cases it would be None in v2. | 18:30 |
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| ayoung | HOw to stay polite during a heated IRC discussion https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1454774_10151687797056734_1006961803_n.jpg | 18:31 |
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| bnemec | So if I'm understanding right, we're already logging None in some cases. | 18:32 |
| dsantos_ | bnemec: I was thinking to do something like http://paste.openstack.org/show/53690/ but I got an exception "KeyError: 'domain_id'" | 18:32 |
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| bnemec | Yeah, we have to pass all of the params. | 18:32 |
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| bnemec | ayoung: There are days when that would come in handy. | 18:32 |
| bnemec | :-) | 18:32 |
| ayoung | bnemec, yes, the ones that end in "y" | 18:32 |
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| bnemec | dsantos_: It sounds like this is not a new issue, so I think I'm fine with the change as-is. | 18:33 |
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| bnemec | If we decide we want smarter logging then that can be a separate piece of work. | 18:33 |
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| bnemec | ayoung: Heh | 18:33 |
| bknudson | It really seems like changes to oslo code should come through projects... | 18:33 |
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| bknudson | i.e., made in a project first and then brought back to oslo | 18:34 |
| bnemec | dsantos_: The blueprint still does need to get approved though. | 18:34 |
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| bnemec | bknudson: Most of it does. | 18:35 |
| bknudson | that's how they start but then afterwards it's direct to oslo, right? | 18:35 |
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| bnemec | This logging code is already in Oslo though, so you'd have a weird situation if you changed it in Keystone first and then moved it to Oslo. | 18:35 |
| dsantos_ | bnemec: yeah, I see... so do you think I should send another patch following your inline comment or I just wait? | 18:36 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, lol | 18:36 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: why does this need to be rebased? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55141/ | 18:36 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I dare you to come over here and say that | 18:36 |
| bknudson | it could be done by overriding in keystone and then moved into oslo after it had been proven | 18:36 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, i need to clear the -1, it was dependant on an abandoned patchset | 18:37 |
| bknudson | maybe with a different option | 18:37 |
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| bnemec | dsantos_: I'd just leave it. I'm +2 once the bp is approved, based on this discussion. | 18:37 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, it is fine now. | 18:37 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: oh i see - it *was* based on an abandoned patch. +2'd | 18:37 |
| dsantos_ | bknudson: I started changing in nova firstly (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55870/), but dims asked me to modify in oslo first | 18:37 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, yep. | 18:37 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I realize it is a one liner, but please add me on ldap stuff | 18:38 |
| bknudson | dsantos_: your way seems like the right way to do it. | 18:38 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, oh sure. i've been trying to remember to do that | 18:38 |
| ayoung | especially when I wrote the bug in the first place | 18:38 |
| ayoung | and I don;'t mean the bug report | 18:38 |
| morganfainberg | i know what you mean | 18:38 |
| morganfainberg | :) | 18:38 |
| bnemec | Nova seems to have their own context object, so I think you're going to have to make that change anyway. | 18:39 |
| dsantos_ | bnemec: nice... thanks for your time | 18:39 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, so, If I submitted that one, would you kick it back with "really needs a unit test?" | 18:39 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, the 1 liner? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55141 | 18:40 |
| dsantos_ | bknudson, bnemec: I agree with you... I think we have to change anyway in nova | 18:40 |
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| bnemec | bknudson: I think you've got a synchronization nightmare if you start making changes to openstack/common in projects that may or may not ever get back to Oslo though. | 18:40 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, if we're expecting a return... it should probably test for proper returns. | 18:40 |
| bnemec | It's bad enough we have projects on different versions of Oslo code. | 18:41 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, so this should probably be caught in test_backend.py | 18:41 |
| bknudson | bnemec: making it to openstack.common shouldn't be required... should be able to figure out a way "extend" common code locally | 18:41 |
| ayoung | lemmed see | 18:41 |
| dsantos_ | but cyeoh asked me for a bp and dims said me to make it in oslo first, so I just did that XD | 18:41 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, probably. | 18:41 |
| bnemec | bknudson: Things aren't supposed to live in Oslo indefinitely though. | 18:42 |
| bnemec | I hear there was talk at the summit about graduating some modules to their own libs. | 18:42 |
| bnemec | Which should be the end goal of everything in Oslo. | 18:42 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, can you add a check in test_role_crud? | 18:42 |
| ayoung | actually... I think I can...let me see | 18:43 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, sure i'll get it added here shortly. doing some other test writing so, easy enough | 18:43 |
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| bknudson | keystone uses common logging but doesn't have things that other components have... | 18:43 |
| bknudson | e.g., it doesn't use auth_token middleware | 18:43 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I got... | 18:43 |
| bknudson | it doesn't have everything in projects/tenants | 18:44 |
| bknudson | so when you have a common/default format that includes these things then it doesn't really apply to keystone. | 18:44 |
| bknudson | so should probably not be considered "common" | 18:44 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think this is just an oversight in the test, | 18:45 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, yep, and should be tested for all backends...I'm on it | 18:45 |
| morganfainberg | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/tests/test_backend.py#n1514 should not require the "get_role" line following it | 18:45 |
| morganfainberg | so 1514 and 1515 could be collapsed | 18:46 |
| morganfainberg | i think. | 18:46 |
| morganfainberg | or well.. the next check line as well. | 18:46 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, I'll leave it in there, and check the return value against both the update and origianal | 18:47 |
| bnemec | bknudson: Yeah, I'm not sure Keystone would even use this logging format, but I don't honestly know all that much about it. | 18:47 |
| bnemec | It seems like something that could use some more investigation. | 18:47 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, sounds appropriate | 18:48 |
| ayoung | no wonder I am hunger...1:48. Lunx time! | 18:48 |
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| bknudson | bnemec: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-incubator/tree/openstack/common/log.py#n133 | 18:50 |
| bknudson | has tenant and instance, which only nova has as far as I know. | 18:50 |
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| bnemec | bknudson: That could be. We find nova-isms in oslo from time to time. | 18:52 |
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| mattf | ayoung, at the boston openstack meetup last night you mentioned an effort to standardize the openstack cli. do you have a more specific pointer? i poked around a month ago and found some efforts from about a year ago, but they were all dead. | 18:56 |
| ayoung | mattf, talk to dtroyer . Effort is very very much alive | 18:57 |
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| ayoung | mattf, for instance, the summit etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-oslo-openstack-client-update | 18:59 |
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| dtroyer | mattf: OpenStackClient is alive, if moving slowly: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStackClient | 18:59 |
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| mattf | dtroyer, savanna has no cli atm, we'll be adding one. when i looked around at other projects it seemed like there were about 3-4 different frameworks in use. i'm not interested in developing a new framework, just using the one that folks are aligning to. | 19:01 |
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| mattf | dtroyer, i'm potentially a greenfield case for you... | 19:02 |
| dtroyer | mattf: most of the existing ones were forked from novaclient, don't do that. We are in the midst of re-factoring the python lib api to better re-use keystone auth so right now there isn't a nice reference example | 19:02 |
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| dtroyer | mattf: at least one other project is in the same state, I seem to have this discussion at least once a week now. ;) Jamie's work in keystoneclient needs to get finished then there will be something to build on | 19:03 |
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| mattf | dtroyer, eta on a ref impl i could mostly copy and plug in savanna specific commands to? | 19:04 |
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| dtroyer | mattf: no, it is all still in flux. | 19:06 |
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| mattf | dtroyer, if i fork novaclient, what's the transition path going to be like to osclient? | 19:08 |
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| dtroyer | mattf: all of the auth bits get ripped out, the low level classes (Manager, HTTPClient, etc) get changed, possibly re-arranged | 19:11 |
| mattf | dtroyer, say i want to get started now. since multiple projects are novaclient forks, and theoretically will be a big migration target, would it be the best place to start? | 19:12 |
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| mattf | dtroyer, i'm open to doing some co-development w/ you guys, but my main goal is to produce a cli, not the framework | 19:14 |
| dtroyer | mattf: you don't know how badly I want to say no. but I dont' have anything else to put in its place | 19:14 |
| dtroyer | yes | 19:14 |
| dtroyer | yet | 19:14 |
| * mattf knows | 19:14 | |
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| stevemar | atiwari: ping | 19:16 |
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| mattf | dtroyer, i could probably hold off for a week or two, would that be enough to have a ref impl? | 19:19 |
| dtroyer | mattf: let me try…time to wake up Jamie | 19:20 |
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| mattf | dtroyer, what's jamie's nick? | 19:20 |
| ayoung | mattf, do this: link to the python-keystoneclient, and use if for your auth and network commo | 19:20 |
| ayoung | be prepared to make changes over the next couple of weeks, but it will stablize very soon | 19:20 |
| ayoung | mattf, he's in Australia: jamielennox|away | 19:21 |
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| mattf | ayoung, that's part of it, i don't want to have to bother with that layer of the stack. i want to "design" the cli commands and map them to a rest obj. | 19:21 |
| ayoung | mattf, fork off of this patch and you will be set: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43829/ | 19:21 |
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| ayoung | mattf, so what are you looking for? | 19:23 |
| mattf | hold on, lemme take a look at that commit. | 19:24 |
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| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55141/ dolphm morganfainberg think this is sufficient | 19:57 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: yeah, that's awesome! | 19:58 |
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| reed | notmyname, did you configure Ask OpenStack to send you notifications of new questions about Swift? | 19:59 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, +2! | 20:00 |
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| notmyname | reed: I don't remember. but I also don't remember getting emails about new questions, so I'm going to guess "no" | 20:00 |
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| reed | notmyname, i've been diving deeper in it and now I think I have a better understanding of how things work there :) | 20:01 |
| reed | so, if you want to get them, let me know :) | 20:01 |
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| reed | notmyname, we're also importing the questions out of Launchpad in order to keep the archive on Ask | 20:01 |
| notmyname | reed: yes, I do. can you send me an email summary | 20:01 |
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| notmyname | reed: great to hear about the LP migration. there is a ton of good content there | 20:02 |
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| reed | notmyname, I'll write a blog post, I guess | 20:03 |
| notmyname | reed: great. 'cause one of the first things I'd do if you told me was tell other people how to do it too :-) | 20:03 |
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| reed | I imagined :) | 20:04 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: tell topol that david waite was at the icehouse summit -- and somehow we missed him | 20:43 |
| stevemar | dolphm we all missed him | 20:43 |
| dolphm | stevemar: he apparently gave a presentation on oauth2 | 20:43 |
| * stevemar 's mind is blown | 20:44 | |
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| stevemar | how did we all miss that? | 20:44 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: i have no idea. monst in #openstack just mentioned it | 20:46 |
| dolphm | stevemar: i think they both work for Ping | 20:46 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: nevermind! i guess he wasn't at the icehouse summit | 20:48 |
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| stevemar | lol | 20:48 |
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| stevemar | were you looking at havana? | 20:48 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: no no, monst was referring to the havana summit, but i didn't realize | 20:49 |
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| stevemar | dolphm, womp womp | 20:53 |
| stevemar | dolphm, we're not crazy after all, drats | 20:54 |
| dolphm | stevemar: i disagree | 20:54 |
| stevemar | dolphm, just sent you an email about a crazy new idea, maybe i'll get my crazy status back | 20:54 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: stevemar.crazy++ | 20:58 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: what's an RP? | 20:59 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm ++stevemar.crazy increment first, then assign :P | 21:00 |
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| morganfainberg | though not sure stevemar's ideas are _that_ insane ever | 21:01 |
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| stevemar | dolphm: RP is an application the user wants to use | 21:04 |
| stevemar | dolphm: and can communicate with an OP | 21:04 |
| dolphm | stevemar: what's an OP | 21:05 |
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| stevemar | dolphm: an entity that can authenicate a person with openIdConnect (OpenIDConnect Provider) | 21:06 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: i guess this one is actually reasonable (stevemar: replied) | 21:06 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, LOL | 21:07 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, so --crazy? | 21:07 |
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| stevemar | dammit | 21:08 |
| dolphm | ++keystone.crazy | 21:08 |
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| stevemar | i wanted to be crazy | 21:08 |
| dolphm | stevemar: crazy by association | 21:08 |
| dolphm | stevemar: you haven't been garbage collected from 'keystone' yet | 21:08 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, ++keystone.getAssociation(entity.stevemar).crazy | 21:09 |
| jsavak | as an asserted identity, i do hereby grant stevemar via a trust association authorization to crazy. | 21:11 |
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| stevemar | jsavak, lots of comments on the latest patch set for the api spec | 21:18 |
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| jsavak | stevemar - good. looking now | 21:18 |
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| stevemar | dolphm, replying back to your email later, goin home! | 21:23 |
| dolphm | stevemar: ++ | 21:23 |
| stevemar | dolphm, i'll ask topol to reply, delegate up, buahaha | 21:24 |
| dolphm | stevemar: that's how you get promoted | 21:24 |
| stevemar | score | 21:24 |
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| jog0 | FYI http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-November/019941.html | 22:23 |
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| dolphm | markwash: with regard to- "How to stage client major releases in Gerrit?" nicely written! love the disclaimer. | 22:29 |
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| markwash | dolphm: heh thanks! | 22:29 |
| dolphm | markwash: unfortunately i don't have an answer, but i'm subscribed lol | 22:30 |
| markwash | trying to be fair, i think folks bring up a lot of good points about how we need to be careful about making sudden breaking changes. . stuff I had forgotten so shame on me! :-) | 22:30 |
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| openstackstatus | NOTICE: Please refrain from approving changes that don't fix gate-blocking issues -- http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-November/019941.html | 22:45 |
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| ekarlso | jd__: ping mr ! :) | 23:06 |
| ekarlso | Are you guys doing https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-oslo-service-synchronization ? | 23:06 |
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| reed | notmyname, http://maffulli.net/2013/11/20/how-to-get-new-questions-on-ask-openstack-via-email/ let me know if it's clear enough | 23:10 |
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| notmyname | reed: looks good. thanks. | 23:13 |
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| reed | notmyname, neat, thanks | 23:14 |
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| bknudson | it looks like an external authentication handler (like Apache httpd) needs to know whether the auth request is for v2 or v3? | 23:17 |
| bknudson | since for v3 we require the @domain whereas for v2 we don't allow @domain? | 23:17 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, ick, we should make the handlers understand that if possible. so it doesn't matter v2 or v3 | 23:24 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: here's the v2 code: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/token/controllers.py#n290 | 23:25 |
| bknudson | and here's the v3 code: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/auth/plugins/external.py#n86 | 23:25 |
| morganfainberg | hrmmm | 23:25 |
| bknudson | the v2 code doesn't use @domain | 23:25 |
| bknudson | whereas both the v3 plugins require @domain | 23:26 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: am I reading this correctly? | 23:26 |
| morganfainberg | that looks right to me. | 23:26 |
| bknudson | I also tried it with devstack. | 23:26 |
| morganfainberg | erll... v3 default doesn't require domain, it throws out the domain | 23:26 |
| morganfainberg | s/erll/well | 23:26 |
| morganfainberg | (line 67) | 23:27 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: ah, maybe I read that wrong then... if the @ isn't required. | 23:27 |
| morganfainberg | .split(@) seems broken, since we rsplit the latter one though | 23:27 |
| morganfainberg | line 86 | 23:27 |
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| morganfainberg | my guess is they should both be rsplit. | 23:28 |
| bknudson | so if you use Domain then your external handler needs to add @, but if you use Default then it doesn't | 23:28 |
| morganfainberg | that also precludes the use of @ in the user's name if it isn't a domain | 23:28 |
| bknudson | and if you want to work with both v3 and v2 then better not use Default and better not use @ | 23:28 |
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| morganfainberg | well, V2 could support @ if it's part of the username | 23:29 |
| morganfainberg | basically.. this looks to be flawed logic | 23:29 |
| bknudson | but then you'd break if you used v3 | 23:29 |
| morganfainberg | yes | 23:29 |
| morganfainberg | basically, it causes issues if the v3 name has an @ in it, and you use the default or if you use the domain one and don't have 2 @'s | 23:30 |
| morganfainberg | not sure what the right answer is, but default will just remove anything after the first @ (left to right) and use the first element as the username, v2 would use the whole name including the @ (both with the default domain) | 23:31 |
| morganfainberg | and domain rsplits the @ for the domain to use. | 23:31 |
| morganfainberg | ugh. | 23:31 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, very inconsistent behavior | 23:31 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: so there is a change that adds a new external plugin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56950/3/keystone/auth/plugins/external.py | 23:31 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, saw that one. | 23:31 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, been working on a grizzly fix for something today since gate has been ... hurting and infra is busy (i don't think i can contribute there much atm) | 23:32 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: I stopped even bothering with recheck. | 23:33 |
| morganfainberg | wait. when did Default change there? | 23:33 |
| morganfainberg | linke 103 in that patchset... is there a dependant change ? | 23:33 |
| morganfainberg | oh there is | 23:33 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: I was wondering about that, too. | 23:33 |
| morganfainberg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50362/22 | 23:33 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: right, there it's changed to not split... | 23:34 |
| bknudson | wonder why they think that's ok. | 23:34 |
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| morganfainberg | it is more consistent | 23:34 |
| morganfainberg | with v2 that is | 23:34 |
| nachi1 | Hello. I have a question python-keystoneclient test. I just cloned the python-keystoneclient package and i am trying to run the inidividual test https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/master/keystoneclient/tests/test_auth_token_middleware.py#L1214. I see the following errors | 23:34 |
| nachi1 | FAIL: keystoneclient.tests.test_auth_token_middleware.CertDownloadMiddlewareTest.test_fetch_signing_ca tags: worker-0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Traceback (most recent call last): File "keystoneclient/tests/test_auth_token_middleware.py", line 901, in test_fetch_signing_ca self.middleware.fetch_ca_cert() File "keystoneclient/middleware/auth_token.py", line 1272, in fetch_ca_cert resp | 23:34 |
| bknudson | but tit's not backwards compatible now | 23:34 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, actually, i think it's more compatible w/ v2 semanitcs. just not with havana release? | 23:35 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, this is a mess :( | 23:35 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: I think you've said that before. | 23:35 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, yes. | 23:36 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, hm. well i am thinking the havana implementation might just be all around broken. | 23:36 |
| morganfainberg | for default | 23:36 |
| morganfainberg | and this "fix" is the correct handling. | 23:36 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: well, this was proposed in havana, just didn't make it. | 23:36 |
| nachi1 | I am running the individual keystoneclient test as follows python -m testtools.run keystoneclient.tests.test_auth_token_middleware.v3AuthTokenMiddlewareTest.test_valid_unscoped_uuid_request | 23:37 |
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| morganfainberg | ah | 23:37 |
| nachi1 | Is there anything wrong in running keystoneclient test as above | 23:37 |
| bknudson | nachi1: tests shouldn't fail when run by themselves, so if it doesn't work then it's a bug. | 23:37 |
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| morganfainberg | i don't see the benefit of Default vs DeprecatedGrizzly? | 23:38 |
| morganfainberg | what am i missing? | 23:38 |
| morganfainberg | except that we get a generic exception instead of a 404 | 23:38 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: DeprecatedGrizzly also checks that the user in the password is correct. | 23:38 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, oh. | 23:39 |
| nachi1 | bknudson: ok. But during jenkins build, this error would have been caught right? | 23:39 |
| bknudson | nachi1: jenkins doesn't run the tests individually. | 23:39 |
| nachi1 | ok | 23:39 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, we .. care about checking the user in password block? | 23:40 |
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| morganfainberg | i guess someone does, or this patchset wouldn't have been added | 23:40 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: I haven't checked, but maybe v2 does check username. | 23:40 |
| morganfainberg | *looks* | 23:41 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, doesn't look like it: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/token/controllers.py#n290 | 23:41 |
| morganfainberg | grizzly doesn't seem to do that either. | 23:42 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: I'm going to open a bug for this specific issue... not sure what the fix is. | 23:45 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, ok. | 23:45 |
| bknudson | seems like we should be using the plugin for v2 auth... | 23:45 |
| bknudson | v2 auth sticks @<default-domain> and then calls the plugin. | 23:45 |
| morganfainberg | right. | 23:45 |
| clarkb | keystone folk http://logs.openstack.org/09/57509/2/gate/gate-tempest-devstack-vm-large-ops/1171354/logs/screen-key.txt.gz any idea why that would happen? we have checked in two different ways that the test slave was no reused so the test should have run on a pristine box | 23:46 |
| bknudson | clarkb: keystone is trying to start and there's another process listening on the socket already. | 23:46 |
| clarkb | bknudson: right, but why would there be another process there | 23:46 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, what bknudson said. do you have a test slave you can look at in this state? | 23:46 |
| clarkb | the machine was freshly booted then had devstack run on it | 23:47 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: I don't right now | 23:47 |
| morganfainberg | i'm curious if it is keystone or something else | 23:47 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, i can spin up a local devstack but i don't think it'll mirror your d-g slaves | 23:47 |
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| morganfainberg | clarkb, but i haven't seen keystone try and start twice on a devstack run *yet* | 23:48 |
| clarkb | could it be that that port is randomly in use for some other thing | 23:48 |
| bknudson | clarkb: can you get devstack to run a netstat -tlpn ? | 23:48 |
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| morganfainberg | might be. | 23:48 |
| morganfainberg | ah that would show whats there. | 23:49 |
| clarkb | bknudson: I think we want it without the -l | 23:49 |
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| morganfainberg | oh, in case it's being used for non-listening process? | 23:49 |
| clarkb | but yeah we should be able to rig up a thing that does that in the event of a failed service start | 23:49 |
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| clarkb | morganfainberg: it might be | 23:49 |
| clarkb | its a really high port | 23:49 |
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| morganfainberg | clarkb, it is. | 23:49 |
| bknudson | I think you can configure the ephemeral port start range. | 23:50 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i think thats just sysctl setting(s) | 23:50 |
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| bknudson | $ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range -- 32768 61000 | 23:51 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, hehe i think you found the same page i did | 23:51 |
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| bknudson | http://www.ncftp.com/ncftpd/doc/misc/ephemeral_ports.html ? | 23:52 |
| clarkb | bknudson: that is what I have on my precise box, I bet we are running into something like that | 23:52 |
| bknudson | that's got a lot of info! | 23:52 |
| morganfainberg | yep | 23:52 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, thats the standard for linux | 23:52 |
| bknudson | that page kind of implies that it was 1024 4999 | 23:52 |
| morganfainberg | IANA suggests 49152 as the lowest port | 23:52 |
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| clarkb | so clearly keystone chose its port poorly :) | 23:55 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, 35357 is our IANA assigned port | 23:56 |
| clarkb | do we have a list of openstack ports somewhere so that I can pick a range that doesn't interfere with anyone else? | 23:56 |
| morganfainberg | :P | 23:56 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: 35357 was not "chosen" by us :) | 23:56 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, yes. | 23:56 |
| clarkb | and we should probably document that this may be a problem | 23:56 |
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| clarkb | because linux defaults | 23:56 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, http://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.txt (look for 35357) | 23:57 |
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| dolphm | theoretically the only port a client would need to assume about an openstack deployment ^ | 23:57 |
| dolphm | after that, the service catalog is capable of directing a user | 23:57 |
| clarkb | dolphm: right but in the gate we are running on a bunch of other ports too | 23:58 |
| bknudson | dolphm: the problem is that a tcp client might get 35357 and then keystone can't use it. | 23:58 |
| dolphm | oh weird... reading gate logs... | 23:59 |
| dolphm | clarkb: is this tracked in a bug report somewhere? | 23:59 |
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