Tuesday, 2013-10-29

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fabiomorganfainberg: got the requested changes in, please have a look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53046/00:18
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morganfainbergfabio, cool will do in a bit00:18
fabiomorganfainberg: sure, thanks!00:19
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jamielennoxdstanek: also there is a blueprint i have from a while ago organize-tests which you can feel free to tag all this stuff as00:23
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ayoungmorganfainberg, I'm back00:41
morganfainbergayoung, WB!00:41
ayoungmorganfainberg, My real job called....had to put my kids to bed00:42
morganfainbergayoung, most serious real job!00:42
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morganfainbergayoung, so KVS refactor, each backend should support specification of the "type", i'm thinking.  e.g. you could use cassandra for token, redis for assignment, and memcache for identity (bad examples because theya ren't real)00:43
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morganfainbergit would be a lot easier to use a unified KVS backend, but i think that lacks the flexability we need.00:43
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ayoungmorganfainberg, for backends that are not yet defined, leave it be undefined, and let the end use choose00:44
ayoungonly lock it down to backport memcached etc for existing ones00:44
ayoungso...00:44
morganfainbergayoung, right, but not restrict to a single backend for _everything_00:44
morganfainberg(the point)00:44
ayoungfor each system,  provide a dogpile based backend00:44
morganfainbergeach section that could use kvs backend selects a dogpile backend type00:45
ayounghave a config option which selects which implementation00:45
morganfainbergyep.00:45
morganfainbergok00:45
ayoungand then the existing ones are pre configured00:45
morganfainbergit was a sanity check make sure i was thinking along the same lines as you00:45
morganfainbergyep00:45
morganfainbergthat is the plan.00:45
ayoungmorganfainberg, are you pondering what I'm pondering?00:45
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morganfainbergayoung, i dunno brain, but where are we going to get rubber pants in our size?00:46
morganfainbergat this time of night00:46
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jaypipesayoung, morganfainberg: heya, finally had a chance to update the regions/ API proposal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54215/00:47
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ayoungmorganfainberg, read the last one http://www-hsc.usc.edu/~rwatanab/ponderin.htm00:47
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ayoungYay Pipes!00:48
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morganfainbergayoung, LOL so accurate00:48
morganfainbergjaypipes, w00t!00:48
ayoungjaypipes, its been so long, I forgot what I was suggesting to you last time we talked00:48
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jaypipesayoung: :) well, I believe the agreement was to add it to 3.2 core, mention filters on parent_region_id, add a name field and make region ID the urlencoded value of name00:49
jaypipesayoung: with a OS-REGION-EXTRA API extension to follow at some point which would allow a deployer to hang arbitrary key/value attributes on a region.00:50
ayoungjaypipes, yeah, it was the filter thing...starting to come back to me....something about making sure it covered all the use cases00:50
jaypipesya00:50
ayoungjaypipes, Sounds good.  I'll take a look00:51
jaypipescheers00:51
morganfainbergjaypipes, cool.  sounds good00:52
ayoungjaypipes, lets just hope that no one goes ahead and implements client side filtering on this....00:53
ayoungoh, wait...00:53
jaypipeslol00:54
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ayoungmorganfainberg, http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/type/keystone02:33
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ayoungincase you hadnt seen\02:33
morganfainbergayoung, yay!02:34
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ayoungjamielennox, yes, we have a schedule02:34
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jamielennoxayoung: is refactoring assingments yours?02:35
jamielennoxdoh, name at the bottom02:35
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ayoungso you can sign up for them, and start arrainging your schedule02:37
* ayoung doing that now02:37
ayoungjamielennox, I even have a Horizon session02:38
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ayoungand one in QA02:42
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ayoungjamielennox, with the mixing in of topics...I think this is going to be a much more packed design summit than the last two have been for me02:43
jamielennoxi'm definetly attending all these breaks02:43
ayoungjamielennox, client is at the end of the day on wednesday...my guess is the conversation won't end at 63002:46
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ayoungjamielennox, http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/adam.m.young03:13
ayoungcurrent thinking03:13
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jamielennoxhttp://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/jamielennox03:14
jamielennoxobviously appears mostly similar03:14
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ayoungyep.03:15
ayoungWe'll be like the NSA folks:  always travel in pairs03:15
ayoungHeh...or Mormon missionaries.03:15
jamielennoxi'm actually really interested in pecan/wsme, i've looked at it a couple of times now for keystone and it just never appears to fit right03:16
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ayoungif it will get me HTML I will buy in03:17
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jamielennoxlol, don't hold your breath03:28
jamielennoxnight03:28
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ekarlso-BobBallAway: ping ;)09:26
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msdubovjog0 Please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43291/, this is a slight improvement that received -1 from you in September due to Feature Freeze10:04
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jog0msdubov: does anything break with the stats field being named incorrectly?10:36
jog0also your commit message doesn't say why it says what10:37
jog0I can see what from the code10:37
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msdubovjog0 Nope but it does not conform with the code above/below (as said in the commit message), that's why it is a stylistic improvement. I've made this patch because it took me some time to understand why the old version worked correctly so I decided to improve this piece of code10:38
msdubovjog0 for the sake of readability10:39
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jog0msdubov: sounds good just make your commit message a little clearer10:40
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jog0readability is a great reason to fix it up10:40
msdubovjog0 Ok thank you10:43
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vladanhi all, i'm not sure who to ask about this so i'll pose the question directly here10:44
vladani get NoSuchOptError: no such option: enabled when i try to import_opt in nova/cmd/compute.py10:45
vladanCONF.import_opt('html5proxy_base_url', 'nova.spice', group='spice')10:45
vladanthe exception isn't raised when importing the option10:46
vladanit's raised when the option is used10:46
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vladanhere's the full exception: http://paste.openstack.org/show/50116/10:53
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larsbutlerhey everyone, general contribution question: Should tests be in the same commit as code changes, or can they be in a separate commit?11:08
larsbutlerWhat's the standard procedure? I didn't see anything about this specifically in the contribution docs11:08
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msdubovjog0 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43291/11:30
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eglynnttx: any chance of getting the summit schedules exported as spreadsheets?12:04
eglynn(as per http://support.sched.org/customer/portal/articles/334892-exporting-your-sessions , then maybe convert .xlsx->.ods via libreoffice or whatever)12:04
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nagyzmorning12:27
ttxeglynn: we could, the trick is they are still a moving target12:27
ttxand will probably stay that way as we optimize it until the end12:27
nagyzhave you guys seen a situation where I had to manually add an iptables rule to FORWARD in order to be able to reach my VMs?12:27
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nagyzwith the defaults, iptables ends up dropping my packets :/12:27
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eglynnttx: a-ha, OK ... even the current state would be useful12:28
ttxeglynn: ok, just a sec12:28
eglynnttx: thanks!12:28
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tellesnobregahi, im working on a new feature for nova and i need to relate a project_id with a domain, is there any table on the db where i can find this information?12:28
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ttxeglynn: http://ubuntuone.com/19bRt7xs0tvHbPoRWMUfRm12:30
eglynnttx: thank you sir!12:31
danpbttx: it would be desirable to export the sched.org content to openstack.org  site at some point12:32
ttxdanpb: where in openstack.org ?12:32
danpbttx: sched.org was used at linuxcon and was  a big pain point - their servers were awol for much of the time :-(12:32
ttxdanpb: ah. interesting12:32
danpbso having a backup of the schedule on another website would be handy if sched.org repeats its scalability problems12:33
ttxdanpb: I wonder if setting a Google cal to consume the sched ics would solve the reliability issue by providing a hefty dose of caching12:33
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danpbyeah could do12:34
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ttxdanpb: as they might schedule "maintenance" in the middle of their "night"12:34
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nagyzin the #openstack logs I've seen others run into a similar issue when neutron's OVS firewall sets it up incorrectly12:34
nagyzis there a change from grizzly->havana that related to OVSFirewall and has an effect like this/12:34
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tellesnobregawhen a new project is created on openstack, is the information of the project saved anywhere on nova?12:42
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nagyzfor new tenant where does neutron copy the security rules from?13:44
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dsantos_ping bknudson13:55
tellesnobregahi, i need to get information from projects in nova, how can i make a call to keystone from nova using ReST API? is there any examples on the code?13:55
tellesnobrega*are there?13:55
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bknudsondsantos_: pong13:55
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dsantos_bknudson: hi, I've asked you about keystone running on 2 networks and you said me that I could configure keystone to listen all interfaces and showed me this line in the conf file https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/etc/keystone.conf.sample#L613:57
bknudsondsantos_: the default is to listen on all interfaces13:57
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jgriffithdolphm: ping13:58
dolphmdsantos_: it's a bit more complicated (perhaps easier if just deploy to apache/etc), but you can also deploy two instances of keystone, each serving a distinct API, and configure the interfaces however you want13:58
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dolphmjgriffith: pong13:58
dsantos_humm... but when I run the commands on debug mode, I saw that sometimes keystone redirect the call from one interface to another one13:58
jgriffithdolphm: any thoughts on swapping keystone and cinder (Wed/Thurs)13:58
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dolphmjgriffith: which keystone slots?13:59
dolphmjgriffith: keystone's wednesday slots or cinder's wednesday slots?13:59
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jgriffithdolphm: so cinder has the same block on thursday13:59
jgriffithdolphm: but I have conflicts on thursday13:59
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dolphmjgriffith: one of the biggest stakeholders for keystone's wednesday sessions will be giving a talk at the conference thursday morning :(14:00
dsantos_dolphm, bknudson: I have a devstack installation running in a server with two network interfaces and I have two keystone clients... each one can communicate with the API using just one specific network14:00
jgriffithdolphm: well the good thing is the Cinder block is 1:50 - 6:00 (afternoon)14:00
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dsantos_dolphm, bknudson: I was trying to run normally but keystone redirect the call to the same IP all the time14:01
bknudsondsantos_: to debug those kinds of problems I usually start with netstat -tlpn and make sure the server is listening as expected14:01
bknudsonthen would check the firewall config14:01
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dsantos_bknudson: I'm gonna check that14:03
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tellesnobregadolphm: hi,  i need to get information from projects in nova, how can i make a call to keystone from nova using ReST API? are there any examples on the code?14:03
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nagyzwhen I look at ovs-vsctl, should the "tag" be the same as my segment_id on all of the hypervisors?14:05
stan_ivanovtellesnobrega: hi, check this out: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/cloud/library/cl-openstack-pythonapis/14:05
nagyzor is it a "counter" for the gre tunnel?14:05
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tellesnobregastan_ivanov: thanks14:07
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dolphmjgriffith: i don't really want to move slots to different days -- would you want our morning thursday slots?14:08
dolphmjgriffith: (trade thursday slots for thursday slots)14:08
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dolphmjgriffith: keystone has 9:00am & 9:50am in the same room14:09
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dolphmjgriffith: ideally i'd like to keep those sessions back to back in one room (the second session is a continuation of the first)14:09
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stan_ivanov_anyone knows if I can import OVF in openstack?14:12
russellbi don't think any real ovf support exists14:12
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Sonny_hello, is there anybody who know how run_tests.sh work, and why dont I have it by default ?14:16
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viktorsmarkwash: hi14:21
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stevemarSonny_, which project are you looking at?14:25
nagyzcan anybody give me a pointer on how to debug GRE traffic with OVS? :/14:25
stevemarayoung: ping14:27
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jgriffithdolphm: actually that might work as well14:28
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Sonny_stevemar, thanks I found news topics, i will try them and come if i need :)14:29
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stevemarSonny_ cool ;)14:29
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jgriffithdolphm: so worst case if you wanted to swap your 9 and 9:50 with my 04:30 and 05:20 that would help out a bit14:32
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jgriffithdolphm: if it creates problems don't worry about it, I have another idea14:32
jgriffithdolphm: think about it and let me know later today14:32
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dolphmjgriffith: i'd *prefer* earlier time slots for those topics -- but it's not really a problem14:32
dolphmjgriffith: just means more hallway meetings on those topics in advance :)14:33
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dolphmjgriffith: let's do 9:00 & 9:50 <--> 4:30 & 5:2014:35
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fandikurnia01hi all14:36
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jgriffithdolphm: excellent14:37
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jgriffithttx: looks like we have a solution, dolphm is willing to swap: Thursday 9:00 & 9:50 <--> 4:30 & 5:2014:39
ttxjgriffith: ok, let me make that happen14:40
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jgriffithttx: thanks, and dolphm thanks a ton!14:40
dolphmjgriffith: /salute14:41
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ttxjgriffith & dolphm: should look like this, confirm: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmUn0hzC1InKdDdPRXFrNjV4SW91SWF5N2gwYnRHYWc&usp=drive_web#gid=114:41
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jgriffithttx: aye14:42
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ttxok, moving slots and praying nothing will break14:42
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* ttx backups db first14:42
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jaypipesdolphm, ayoung, jamielennox, haneef: good morning sirs. would you mind hashing out differences over the region name attribute this morning pls? I'll do whatever you ask, I just need to be told what you prefer.14:45
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ayoungjaypipes, um...morning is almost over for me...I have a meeting in 14 minutes14:46
ttxdolphm: check http://summit.openstack.org/scheduling/10 and push if happy14:46
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ttxjgriffith: check http://summit.openstack.org/scheduling/14 and push if happy14:47
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jaypipesayoung: ok, just making a request is all :)14:47
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jaypipesjamielennox: also, if you are around, would appreciate a quick chat about one of your comments14:47
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ayoungttx, BTW, saw the tenatative schedule of Keystone talks...and I want you to know that I  appreciate the Herculean..nay Sisyphean effort you and dolphm are putting in.14:47
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ayoungjaypipes, jamie is asleep14:48
ayounghe's in Brisbane Australia14:48
jaypipesayoung: ah, I see. :) ok then!14:48
ayoungjaypipes, is this commented ojn the review?14:48
jaypipesayoung: yes, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54215/14:49
ayoungjaypipes, ah, the name thing...let's bring it up at the Keystone meeting at 2 Eastern14:50
ttxdolphm: pushed to sched your part so that the resulting shced is not wedged14:50
ayoungI think all will be attending...although Summit will probably trump14:50
ttxdolphm: check http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/keystone for sanity now14:51
jaypipesayoung: sounds good. thx man.14:51
dolphmttx: looks good - thanks!14:52
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ayoungjaypipes, it seems to me that the uuid/id thing is for deconflicting between two different servers making changes at the same time.  Region  is a very low volume change entity.  I suspect saying "name" is the only identified, it must be URL safe, and it must be locally unique is an acceptable approach.  Do we need id at all?14:53
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jaypipesayoung: I don't think so, no. I'd be happy with just name, with the caveat that it be unique to a deployment.14:54
jaypipesayoung: which is not the case today with the region tag on endpoint, BTW.14:54
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fandikurnia01hi all, i have some problem with openstack. Where our vm cannot access or ping outside, and someinterface indicated down state14:55
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fandikurnia01my result example : [root@controller-02 ~]# quantum port-show d898963e-39c7-48ac-aa04-927042807cc714:56
fandikurnia01which: no gedit in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin)14:56
fandikurnia01which: no kate in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin)14:56
fandikurnia01which: no vim in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin)14:56
fandikurnia01which: no emacs in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin)14:56
fandikurnia01which: no nano in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin)14:56
fandikurnia01which: no pico in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin)14:56
fandikurnia01+----------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+14:56
fandikurnia01| Field                | Value                                                                               |14:56
fandikurnia01+----------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+14:56
fandikurnia01| admin_state_up       | True                                                                                |14:56
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fandikurnia01| binding:capabilities | {"port_filter": false}                                                              |14:56
fandikurnia01| binding:vif_type     | ovs                                                                                 |14:56
fandikurnia01| device_id            | d1c75313-b605-4356-a397-37b3e60ab220                                                |14:56
nagyzany OVS experts around?14:56
fandikurnia01| device_owner         | network:floatingip                                                                  |14:56
fandikurnia01| fixed_ips            | {"subnet_id": "bdbd9d5f-3615-4e99-87d5-00aab4451287", "ip_address": "103.24.13.35"} |14:56
fandikurnia01| id                   | d898963e-39c7-48ac-aa04-927042807cc7                                                |14:56
fandikurnia01| mac_address          | fa:16:3e:79:66:36                                                                   |14:56
fandikurnia01| name                 |                                                                                     |14:56
fandikurnia01| network_id           | 8f306d5e-c29c-41f5-b2e7-46d650cbbdaa14:56
fandikurnia01 network_id           | 8f306d5e-c29c-41f5-b2e7-46d650cbbdaa                                                |14:56
fandikurnia01| status               | DOWN                                                                                |14:57
fandikurnia01| tenant_id            |                                                                                     |14:57
fandikurnia01+----------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+14:57
fandikurnia01sorry for long post :)14:57
stan_ivanov_fandikurnia01: use http://paste.openstack.org/ next time14:57
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fandikurnia01ok thanks14:58
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stevemarnagyz: ping15:01
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ayoungjaypipes, I'll keep that in mind...15:01
stevemarayoung: ping! my favorite person15:01
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nagyzstevemar, so, I have a multi-node setup with OVS, and the VMs on the "local" node (meaning running all the services, so the controller) work fine, but not the other side of the GRE tunnel15:02
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nagyzand besides confirming with tcpdump that the packets are indeed coming in, I don't know how to debug OVS further15:02
nagyzI don't see them on the qvo interface15:03
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stevemarnagyz: i think that message was for someone else15:04
nagyzah. :)15:04
nagyztoo bad.15:05
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stevemarayoung: take a look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51980/ i think i addressed your comments...15:11
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fandikurnia01hi all, update in paste.openstack.org15:12
fandikurnia01http://paste.openstack.org/show/50140/15:12
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stan_ivanov_hello, is it possible to import an OVF file in openstack?15:20
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larsbutlerstan_ivanov_: not directly, it seems: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-image/content/ch_introduction.html#d6e117  (at least in Grizzly; I don't know if that changed in Havana)15:22
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stan_ivanov_thanks15:24
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devanandamikal: what's it take to add another project to your reviewsummary graphs?15:25
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carl_baldwinnati_ueno: ping on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37131/.  You and salv-orlando: have shown support for this patch (you gave +2).  What is left to do to get this merged?15:55
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mriedemmordred: ping15:58
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nati_uenocarl_baldwin: you need two +2. could you ask it for salvatore?15:58
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carl_baldwinYes, I will ping salvatore.  Thank you.16:00
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thomasemjaypipes, ping16:08
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jaypipesthomasem: hello!16:08
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thomasemjaypipes, Hey hey! I wanted to see if there was a reason other than the Alembic migration problems for the event_types table patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/4131616:09
thomasemIf not, I was going to dust it off, convert the migration to sa-migrate and resubmit, if you're cool w/ that.16:09
thomasemI wanted to move along with the Event API BPs.16:09
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thomasemjaypipes, reason it is sort of blocked, I mean.16:10
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jaypipesthomasem: oh, please feel free! however, I believe that chris herndon from HP was looking at that...16:10
thomasemjaypipes, Yep. I have a meeting with him in a few hours and wanted to check in with him too. :)16:10
thomasemjaypipes, Awesome. Thanks!!16:10
jaypipesthomasem: I got sidetracked with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46841/16:11
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thomasemThat's right, I remember now.16:11
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jaypipesthomasem: actually, no, I think herndon was gonna work on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46841/ first...16:11
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jaypipesthomasem: so you should be good to go on event_types.16:12
thomasemjaypipes: Perfect. =]16:12
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thomasemjaypipes: Has there been any resolution with the Alembic stuff, btw?16:12
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jaypipesthomasem: no, but not because I disagreed with anything from boris-42 and crew. just had not had the time to make the corrections, and while I delayed, lots more migrations were made, so it was a bit of a two-steps-forward-one-step-back effort :(16:13
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jaypipesthomasem: herndon was gonna give a go to getting the corrections done and incorporating the new migrations that came in the last couple months.16:14
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boris-42jaypipes the problem was16:14
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boris-42jaypipes that patches that switch to alembic was merged before other patches16:14
boris-42jaypipes we should use models for creating tables in testing, not migrations16:15
jaypipesboris-42: yes, totally understood and agreed.16:15
boris-42jaypipes then we will be able to drop support of sqlite16:15
boris-42jaypipes in migartions16:15
jaypipes++16:15
thomasem++++++++16:15
jaypipesagreed.16:15
thomasem(wasn't meaning to one up, was meaning to show support :)16:15
boris-42jaypipes but to make all this stuff we should test that models and migrations make the same schema16:15
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jaypipesand once sqlite is no longer supported in migrations, then getting on alembic and only alembic should be a priority...16:16
boris-42jaypipes and this work seems like will be soon absolute done16:16
boris-42jaypipes yes and after 2 release we will be able to drop all old migartions16:16
boris-42jaypipes and sqlalchmey-migrate support16:16
jaypipes++16:16
boris-42but this is huge amount of work16:17
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boris-42and wasn't finished in Havana16:17
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thomasemjaypipes, boris-42: So, am I doing the right thing by converting this alembic migration to sa-migrate for the time being?16:17
thomasemTo move the API forward and all.16:17
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jaypipesthomasem: yes, i think so... boris-42?16:19
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boris-42thomasem I am not sure that this is safe oepration16:19
thomasemboris-42, Oh?16:20
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boris-42thomasem you see models are not synced with migrations  (we found a tons of bugs working on this)16:22
boris-42thomasem there is a lot of nasty bugs in sqla-migarte that you even don't see=)16:22
thomasemOh :(16:22
boris-42thomasem there are another bugs in alembic16:22
boris-42thomasem usually you get as output different schemes in different backends16:23
boris-42thomasem so for me this is dangerous oeperation16:23
thomasemSure, but what alternative do I have, I guess is the question?16:23
boris-42thomasem even if you get at the end the same schema, you are not able to guarantee that the road was the same16:23
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boris-42thomasem about project we are speaking now?16:24
thomasemboris-42, ^^16:24
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thomasemboris-42, ceilometer - specifically this reivew: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/4131616:24
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boris-42rpdolyaka ping16:24
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tellesnobregastan_ivanov_: hi, im looking at the python-apis that you suggested me, i have a c questions, if you can answer, how can i get the keystone url an16:35
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tellesnobregastan_ivanov_: and the current user name and password?16:37
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tellesnobregastan_ivanov_: i saw now that from context i already have the auth_token, can i use that for the connection?16:39
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thomasemboris-42, Oh, I misunderstood your question. My asking about the Alembic work was because of the patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41316. I wanted to finish it up to move the Event API along.16:43
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boris-42thomasem I am little bit busy at this moment I will ask rpodolyaka to help you tomorrow okay?)16:44
thomasemOhhh okay, sure. Thanks, boris-42.16:44
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mriedemopen question: is it generally required or just good practice to send a note to the mailing list on new blueprints?16:45
mriedemso people beside the PTL can review if they are interested?16:45
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russellbgood practice, but not required16:48
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russellbwhat's required to get review is targeting it to a milestone16:48
russellbreview might result in the reviewer starting a thread if they feel it's necessary16:48
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tellesnobregastan_ivanov_: ping17:04
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nagyzany neutron developers around?17:27
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tellesnobregadolphm: hey, can i ask you a couple questions?17:50
dolphmtellesnobrega: about to start the keystone meeting, but sure17:51
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tellesnobregadolphm: im working on a new feature on nova, and i need to recover the domain that a project is in17:51
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tellesnobregathe solution that came out was using the python-keystoneclient to recover the projects and get the domain17:52
dolphmtellesnobrega: v3_keystoneclient_instance.projects.get(project_id).domain_id17:52
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dolphmtellesnobrega: but more importantly, why do you need the domain?17:52
dolphmi'm just curious / looking for use cases17:53
dolphmtellesnobrega: auth_token also passes it down in context as PROJECT_DOMAIN_ID17:53
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tellesnobregadolphm: cool17:53
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tellesnobregadolphm: i am implementing domain quotas17:53
tellesnobregaand im not suppose to change the QuotaEngine much, so i get from the interface the project_id and i need to recover the domain so i can enforce the quotas17:54
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dolphmtellesnobrega: ooh, keystone is also implementing centralized quota storage17:55
dolphmtellesnobrega: we have an implementation / api for project-based quotas already, we're looking to have an unconference session at the summit to expand scope to include domain-based quotas -- can you attend?17:55
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tellesnobregadolphm: when is that?17:55
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tellesnobregadolphm: at the summit, i wont be able to make it, but im sure that someone from HP will be there to talk about that17:56
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dolphmtellesnobrega: what's your email, i'll CC you on a small thread about it17:57
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tellesnobregadolphm: do i need to authenticate anything to use the v3_keystoneclient_instance.projects.get(project_id).domain_id?17:57
tellesnobregadolphm: tellesnobrega@gmail.com17:57
dolphmtellesnobrega: you'll need a token (or credentials) with authorization to call get_projects17:58
tellesnobregadolphm: i can get that on the context?17:58
dolphmtellesnobrega: can you not get it out of the wsgi environment and save the call?17:58
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dolphmtellesnobrega: yes17:59
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tellesnobregadolphm: Another thing, about the keystone url, is there anyway to get that?18:00
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dolphmtellesnobrega: i think there's an env var that contains the user's catalog18:01
tellesnobregadolphm: thanks18:02
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tellesnobregadolphm: what should i import to use the v3_keystoneclient?18:07
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tellesnobregadolphm: found18:09
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tellesnobregahi, i need to get the os_auth_url (keystone url) on nova, how can i do that? thanks18:50
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SnowDustkeystone endpoint-get  --service18:59
SnowDustshould give u19:00
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dolphmjaypipes: jamielennox: ayoung: o/19:03
ayoungjamielennox, moving regions is something that is currently done,  now19:03
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jamielennoxdolphm: but that's not moving a region, it's creating a new one then move the endpoints19:04
ayoungso we should continue to support it.  I think that the analogy to file systems where  the name = dentry and id = path makes sense19:04
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ayoungjamielennox, it is organizing a region19:04
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jamielennoxayoung: that's not the debate, it's moving a region from one parent to another19:05
ayoungyou start out with one, then two..and push the current region down one level...then you add a few more..rebalance your tree...19:05
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ayoungjamielennox, "region" is a container for endpoints19:05
jaypipesjamielennox: also consider a deployment that has 3 different regions, none of which have any children. then perhaps the deployer wants to move one or more of those regions into a super-region...19:05
jaypipesregion should have no connotations of geography, keep in mind...19:05
ayoungjamielennox, we could say that a region is immutable.  Then, to add a new endpoint, you create a new region which is the union of the old region and the new endpoint...very functional...but not very smart19:06
jamielennoxno, an immutable region is not what i'm looking for at all19:06
ayoungsame thing is true here...a region is an organizational tool.  If we want to maintain the id as immutable, we have to create a new region and copy19:07
ayoungbut thinking of it as a node in a tree is cleaner19:07
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jamielennoxok, i actually agree on most of this with an immutable id, at the very least it fits our api better, i'm just not sure on the usage19:08
ayoungjamielennox, are you OK with uuid id, then?  I could have short cut this discussion if I remebered the logic, but it took morganfainberg 's reminder19:09
* ayoung doesn't scale19:09
jamielennoxwe use the uuids elsewhere, i guess we should follow the same logic19:10
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dolphmjamielennox: what about immutable ID + immutable name? and then the whole business of moving things around if you want to rename regions at the same times becomes a client side issue19:10
dolphmand frankly, and easily solved one19:10
dolphmthe api remains predictable & consistent19:11
jamielennoxUUIDs for things created by API, LDAP gets a text id19:11
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dolphmand you get fancy URL's19:11
jamielennoxi don't like to admit it, being all restful, but fancy urls is kind of what i was looking for here19:11
dolphmjamielennox: you can have them lol19:12
jamielennoxGET /regions/{UUID} is just uglier than the other apis19:12
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jaypipesjamielennox: which other APIs are you thinking of?19:12
jamielennoxjaypipes: anything with a UUID19:12
jaypipesjamielennox: you mean anything without a UUID?19:13
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jamielennoxdolphm: so if id is immutable and name is immutable - why do i want both?19:13
gyeedstanek, dolphm, increase the ulimit helped, now the tests ran through19:13
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jamielennoxjaypipes: no i mean this habbit of having particularly multiple uuids in a url - it's very descriptive but it's really cryptic for the user19:14
dstanekgyee: nice19:15
jamielennoxjaypipes: i'm not advocating a change (it wouldn't work) but if we had descriptive ids (username) then you could look at a URL and know what it is doing without having to resolve those ids19:15
dolphmjamielennox: i acknowledge, they become redundant -- you could allow name changes if you don't expect the id to be updated as well19:16
jamielennoxdolphm: so if id == url friendly name, and we have a description field as well i don't see the point of name19:17
dolphmjamielennox: ideally, users should never see UUID's -- names should be sufficient for UI purposes19:17
jaypipesjamielennox: agreed.19:17
ayoungjamielennox, I think we make name mutable.19:17
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dolphmjamielennox: where did a description field come from?19:17
jamielennoxayoung: i think we ditch it19:17
jamielennoxdolphm: i'm sure there is a description field in that review19:18
dolphmjaypipes: alright, so 180deg idea: what about no region names, and *add* PUT /v3/regions/{user_defined_region_id}19:18
ayoungjamielennox, name is the segment,  and needs only be locally unique.  Tlike hostnames,  then the region gets a FQDN  by joining the segments19:18
dolphmjaypipes: where POST /v3/regions assigned a UUID per usual19:18
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dolphmjaypipes: that was on my wishlist anyway, but i wanted to do it for the entire api19:19
ayoungdolphm, we still get a hierarchy?19:19
dolphmjaypipes: not just one resource :)19:19
dolphmayoung: you get the hierarchy from parent_region_id, not from the URL19:19
jamielennoxdolphm: yep that works for me19:19
jaypipesdolphm: zactly.19:19
jaypipesdolphm: ++ from me.19:20
dolphmayoung: ++?19:20
jamielennoxthe review has name as an optional field at the moment anyway19:20
jaypipesjamielennox: you cool with the child_regions addition I put in there? list of full region objects, not a list of region IDs...19:20
jamielennoxah, really haven't had a chance to look yet19:20
jaypipesk, no probs19:20
dolphmjaypipes: is that a resource or attribute?19:20
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jamielennoxit just went 5:20 am19:21
dolphmjaypipes: GET /v3/regions/{region_id}/children or something?19:21
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dolphmit's actually 7:21 pm19:21
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jaypipesdolphm: it is a field in the region object returned.19:22
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jamielennoxagain though i'm not sure what the use case for retrieving children is, i just thought it is something generally offered by this sort fo hierarchical api19:22
jaypipesfrom a GET /regions/{region_id}19:22
jamielennoxdolphm: my mistake - that means i'm pretty much done for today then19:23
dolphmjamielennox: UTC FTW19:23
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dolphmjaypipes: ah, is that GET /regions or also per GET /regions/{region_id} ?19:24
jaypipesdolphm: it is *just* on GET /regions/{region_id}19:25
jaypipesdolphm: and only returns the first-level descendants only.19:25
dolphmjaypipes: ah19:25
jaypipesdolphm: the entire hierarchy can be constructed by a call to GET /regions of course...19:26
dolphmjaypipes: so GET /regions returns a flat representation?19:26
dolphmjaypipes: with parent_region_id's?19:26
mriedemluisg: ping19:26
luisgmriedem, w up19:27
jaypipesdolphm: correct.19:27
mriedemluisg: looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53199/ between patch 3 and the latest, it looks like basically getting v2 api tests covered and getting mock to work?19:28
jamielennoxjaypipes: i think maybe we leave out the children_ids, but a call to GET /regions/{id}/children returns a full object list19:28
dolphmjaypipes: i'd prefer http://pasteraw.com/sqzzsbp5jepmbluxdqz0rzjutf9vcbj19:28
dolphmjaypipes: but i don't completely object if you have a strong use case otherwise19:29
luisgmriedem, correct19:29
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jaypipesdolphm: sure, I could go for that.19:30
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jamielennoxhmm, the GET .../children is exactly the same as dolphm filter in this case19:30
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dolphmjamielennox: ++19:30
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dolphmjaypipes: although i like your "child_regions" better than my "children"19:31
dolphmit's more explicit19:31
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jaypipesdolphm: I'd almost be inclined to combine your suggestion with jamielennox's suggestion and do "links": {"children": "http://auth.example.com/regions/{parent_region_id}/children" }}19:31
jaypipesdolphm: well, either way :)19:32
dolphmjaypipes: the only places we do child resources like that is when the relationship from parent to child is more complex than this19:32
jaypipesdolphm: your choice.19:32
jaypipesdolphm: child_regions then? :)19:32
dolphmjaypipes: like GET /users/{user_id}/projects <-- users have ~1 billion different types of relationships with projects19:32
dolphmjaypipes: sure19:32
jaypipesdolphm: keep as child_regions?19:32
dolphmjaypipes: yes19:32
jaypipesdolphm: with full object representations inside?19:33
dolphmjaypipes: oh i just meant...19:33
dolphmjaypipes: http://pasteraw.com/3xyyklglcreriligza4i5kxcj990b7j19:33
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jaypipesthe link name should be child_regions instead of children?19:33
dolphmjaypipes: yes19:33
dolphmjaypipes: i meant i liked your name better than my name19:33
jamielennoxis child_regions present in the object if there are no child regions?19:34
jamielennox(yes probably makes the most sense here)19:34
dolphmjamielennox: implementation detail? it's either going to be an empty set or the service can pre-compute if there would be any values19:34
jaypipeswhat about this alrternative? http://paste.openstack.org/19:35
dolphmthe link will be valid in the future even if it's an empty set today19:35
jaypipesright.19:35
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dolphmjaypipes: that's a radical alternative, to be fair19:35
jaypipesHATEOS an all that.19:35
jamielennoxdolphm: no, i don't like it as an implementation detail. If it's defined in the API then it's absense can be used to say that this region is terminal, if it's an implementation detail you can't say anything19:35
jamielennoxlol19:35
jaypipesjamespage: ++19:35
jaypipesoops, jamielennox ++ :)19:36
dolphmjamielennox: agree19:36
jamielennoxjaypipes: don't worry, jamespage and i have a long standing issue on this one19:36
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jaypipesjamielennox, dolphm: doh, sorry, meant this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/50164/19:37
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dolphmjaypipes: i'm alright with that, but you might as well support filtering on the GET /v3/regions by parent_region_id as well, right?19:39
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dolphmas well as well19:39
jamielennoxjaypipes: i'm inclined to go with dolphm and use filtering19:39
jaypipesdolphm: yup, as requested by Mr. Young. :)19:39
jamielennox(i'm just not used to thinking in terms of filtering our apis yet)19:39
jaypipessure, no worries.19:39
jamielennoxthere isn't much point in providing another URL for something that can be done with the existing one19:40
jaypipesyeah, good point.19:40
jamielennoxand the filter will return the full  objects19:40
jaypipesya19:41
dolphmjamielennox: jaypipes: we support a bunch of similar filters already https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/identity/controllers.py#L63519:41
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jaypipesok, gimme a few minutes and I'll have an updated proposed spec up.19:41
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dolphmjaypipes: going to run a quick errand, poke me if i don't give you a review when i get back19:44
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dsantos_hi... how can I install apache mod_nss on ubuntu?19:49
dsantos_I saw that in fedora I can run just "yum install mod_nss"19:50
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jamielennoxdsantos_: apt-cache search mod_nss doesn't give you the package name?19:51
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dsantos_jamielennox: no, it doesn't19:52
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dstanekdsantos_: apt-cache search nss | grep apache19:53
dsantos_dstanek: thanks.. I think the package is "libapache2-mod-nss"19:53
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jamielennoxdsantos_: that looks right19:54
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ayounghttp://packages.debian.org/sid/libapache2-mod-nss19:56
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dsantos_ayoung: I'm trying to follow the steps the you wrote in your blog to deploy keystone in apache2 http://adam.younglogic.com/2012/04/keystone-httpd/20:02
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ayoungdsantos_, in a meeting...most of that is correct, some minor changes...20:03
dsantos_ayoung: ok20:03
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stevemardolphm: ping20:14
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reedrussellb, I sent a message to the mlist re blueprint review process, interested in your opinion20:26
reedttx, yours too :)20:26
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russellbreed: just now?20:27
reedrussellb, couple minutes ago20:28
russellbah, k20:28
* russellb read it from the archive20:29
russellbwill respond when it hits my client20:29
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reedrussellb, np, just giving a headsup20:30
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nagyzso how could I verify that my provider settings are correct for neutron? anybody willing to walk me thru it? (I mean I think they are correct, with some manual fixes, it actually works with the GRE tunnel, but I can't decide if it's a bug or something I misconfigured...)21:06
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dolphmjaypipes: poke me if you have a new patchset on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54215/21:28
dolphmjaypipes: s/if/when/ :)21:29
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gyeedolphm, can you review this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51300/ now that catalog opt-out API is merged?21:36
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jamielennoxwith all these how to search gerrit topics, has anyone figured out how to check that i don't have a current review on a patch?23:45
jamielennoxif i do -reviewer:jamielennox i see patches that i've never commented on23:46
jamielennoxbut what about i've commented previous but a patch has been updated and i don't have a current review?23:46
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sdaguejamielennox: gerrit queries are kind of limitted, it will be any review that you ever commented on, regardless of whether you have a comment on the current patch23:51
jamielennoxsdague: i was actually going through your post, but reviewer is kind of useless if i can't differentiate what i've done and what i've got to do23:52
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sdagueyeh, agreed23:53
sdagueI use -owner a lot23:53
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sdaguethat helps get my own stuff out of the way23:53
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sdaguehonestly, there are a ton of more detailed queries that would be helpful in gerrit, but such is the state of the world :)23:53
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fungiif you can stand using the webui, the default dashboard emboldens changes on which you're a reviewer but have not voted on the current patchset23:54
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fungihowever i've been unable to replicate that set with a query23:54
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fungii think it's hard-coded for the dashboard23:54
fungihaven't looked deeply enough in the source to confirm, because EJAVA23:55
jamielennoxfungi: ok, i should use that view more often but that list is huge23:55
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fungitell me about it :(23:56
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fungii should take that as a sign that i'm falling way behind on reviews, but that would just depress me23:57
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jamielennoxwhilst your here, do you know why tox has the setting LC_ALL=C ?23:59
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jamielennoxis that a requirement of CI or just something that has been inheritted from somewhere?23:59

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