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fabio | morganfainberg: got the requested changes in, please have a look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53046/ | 00:18 |
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morganfainberg | fabio, cool will do in a bit | 00:18 |
fabio | morganfainberg: sure, thanks! | 00:19 |
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jamielennox | dstanek: also there is a blueprint i have from a while ago organize-tests which you can feel free to tag all this stuff as | 00:23 |
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ayoung | morganfainberg, I'm back | 00:41 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, WB! | 00:41 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, My real job called....had to put my kids to bed | 00:42 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, most serious real job! | 00:42 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, so KVS refactor, each backend should support specification of the "type", i'm thinking. e.g. you could use cassandra for token, redis for assignment, and memcache for identity (bad examples because theya ren't real) | 00:43 |
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morganfainberg | it would be a lot easier to use a unified KVS backend, but i think that lacks the flexability we need. | 00:43 |
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ayoung | morganfainberg, for backends that are not yet defined, leave it be undefined, and let the end use choose | 00:44 |
ayoung | only lock it down to backport memcached etc for existing ones | 00:44 |
ayoung | so... | 00:44 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, right, but not restrict to a single backend for _everything_ | 00:44 |
morganfainberg | (the point) | 00:44 |
ayoung | for each system, provide a dogpile based backend | 00:44 |
morganfainberg | each section that could use kvs backend selects a dogpile backend type | 00:45 |
ayoung | have a config option which selects which implementation | 00:45 |
morganfainberg | yep. | 00:45 |
morganfainberg | ok | 00:45 |
ayoung | and then the existing ones are pre configured | 00:45 |
morganfainberg | it was a sanity check make sure i was thinking along the same lines as you | 00:45 |
morganfainberg | yep | 00:45 |
morganfainberg | that is the plan. | 00:45 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, are you pondering what I'm pondering? | 00:45 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, i dunno brain, but where are we going to get rubber pants in our size? | 00:46 |
morganfainberg | at this time of night | 00:46 |
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jaypipes | ayoung, morganfainberg: heya, finally had a chance to update the regions/ API proposal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54215/ | 00:47 |
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ayoung | morganfainberg, read the last one http://www-hsc.usc.edu/~rwatanab/ponderin.htm | 00:47 |
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ayoung | Yay Pipes! | 00:48 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, LOL so accurate | 00:48 |
morganfainberg | jaypipes, w00t! | 00:48 |
ayoung | jaypipes, its been so long, I forgot what I was suggesting to you last time we talked | 00:48 |
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jaypipes | ayoung: :) well, I believe the agreement was to add it to 3.2 core, mention filters on parent_region_id, add a name field and make region ID the urlencoded value of name | 00:49 |
jaypipes | ayoung: with a OS-REGION-EXTRA API extension to follow at some point which would allow a deployer to hang arbitrary key/value attributes on a region. | 00:50 |
ayoung | jaypipes, yeah, it was the filter thing...starting to come back to me....something about making sure it covered all the use cases | 00:50 |
jaypipes | ya | 00:50 |
ayoung | jaypipes, Sounds good. I'll take a look | 00:51 |
jaypipes | cheers | 00:51 |
morganfainberg | jaypipes, cool. sounds good | 00:52 |
ayoung | jaypipes, lets just hope that no one goes ahead and implements client side filtering on this.... | 00:53 |
ayoung | oh, wait... | 00:53 |
jaypipes | lol | 00:54 |
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ayoung | morganfainberg, http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/type/keystone | 02:33 |
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ayoung | incase you hadnt seen\ | 02:33 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, yay! | 02:34 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, yes, we have a schedule | 02:34 |
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jamielennox | ayoung: is refactoring assingments yours? | 02:35 |
jamielennox | doh, name at the bottom | 02:35 |
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ayoung | so you can sign up for them, and start arrainging your schedule | 02:37 |
* ayoung doing that now | 02:37 | |
ayoung | jamielennox, I even have a Horizon session | 02:38 |
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ayoung | and one in QA | 02:42 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, with the mixing in of topics...I think this is going to be a much more packed design summit than the last two have been for me | 02:43 |
jamielennox | i'm definetly attending all these breaks | 02:43 |
ayoung | jamielennox, client is at the end of the day on wednesday...my guess is the conversation won't end at 630 | 02:46 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/adam.m.young | 03:13 |
ayoung | current thinking | 03:13 |
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jamielennox | http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/jamielennox | 03:14 |
jamielennox | obviously appears mostly similar | 03:14 |
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ayoung | yep. | 03:15 |
ayoung | We'll be like the NSA folks: always travel in pairs | 03:15 |
ayoung | Heh...or Mormon missionaries. | 03:15 |
jamielennox | i'm actually really interested in pecan/wsme, i've looked at it a couple of times now for keystone and it just never appears to fit right | 03:16 |
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ayoung | if it will get me HTML I will buy in | 03:17 |
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ayoung | gnight | 03:20 |
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jamielennox | lol, don't hold your breath | 03:28 |
jamielennox | night | 03:28 |
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ekarlso- | BobBallAway: ping ;) | 09:26 |
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msdubov | jog0 Please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43291/, this is a slight improvement that received -1 from you in September due to Feature Freeze | 10:04 |
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jog0 | msdubov: does anything break with the stats field being named incorrectly? | 10:36 |
jog0 | also your commit message doesn't say why it says what | 10:37 |
jog0 | I can see what from the code | 10:37 |
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msdubov | jog0 Nope but it does not conform with the code above/below (as said in the commit message), that's why it is a stylistic improvement. I've made this patch because it took me some time to understand why the old version worked correctly so I decided to improve this piece of code | 10:38 |
msdubov | jog0 for the sake of readability | 10:39 |
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jog0 | msdubov: sounds good just make your commit message a little clearer | 10:40 |
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jog0 | readability is a great reason to fix it up | 10:40 |
msdubov | jog0 Ok thank you | 10:43 |
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vladan | hi all, i'm not sure who to ask about this so i'll pose the question directly here | 10:44 |
vladan | i get NoSuchOptError: no such option: enabled when i try to import_opt in nova/cmd/compute.py | 10:45 |
vladan | CONF.import_opt('html5proxy_base_url', 'nova.spice', group='spice') | 10:45 |
vladan | the exception isn't raised when importing the option | 10:46 |
vladan | it's raised when the option is used | 10:46 |
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vladan | here's the full exception: http://paste.openstack.org/show/50116/ | 10:53 |
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larsbutler | hey everyone, general contribution question: Should tests be in the same commit as code changes, or can they be in a separate commit? | 11:08 |
larsbutler | What's the standard procedure? I didn't see anything about this specifically in the contribution docs | 11:08 |
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msdubov | jog0 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43291/ | 11:30 |
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eglynn | ttx: any chance of getting the summit schedules exported as spreadsheets? | 12:04 |
eglynn | (as per http://support.sched.org/customer/portal/articles/334892-exporting-your-sessions , then maybe convert .xlsx->.ods via libreoffice or whatever) | 12:04 |
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nagyz | morning | 12:27 |
ttx | eglynn: we could, the trick is they are still a moving target | 12:27 |
ttx | and will probably stay that way as we optimize it until the end | 12:27 |
nagyz | have you guys seen a situation where I had to manually add an iptables rule to FORWARD in order to be able to reach my VMs? | 12:27 |
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nagyz | with the defaults, iptables ends up dropping my packets :/ | 12:27 |
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eglynn | ttx: a-ha, OK ... even the current state would be useful | 12:28 |
ttx | eglynn: ok, just a sec | 12:28 |
eglynn | ttx: thanks! | 12:28 |
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tellesnobrega | hi, im working on a new feature for nova and i need to relate a project_id with a domain, is there any table on the db where i can find this information? | 12:28 |
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ttx | eglynn: http://ubuntuone.com/19bRt7xs0tvHbPoRWMUfRm | 12:30 |
eglynn | ttx: thank you sir! | 12:31 |
danpb | ttx: it would be desirable to export the sched.org content to openstack.org site at some point | 12:32 |
ttx | danpb: where in openstack.org ? | 12:32 |
danpb | ttx: sched.org was used at linuxcon and was a big pain point - their servers were awol for much of the time :-( | 12:32 |
ttx | danpb: ah. interesting | 12:32 |
danpb | so having a backup of the schedule on another website would be handy if sched.org repeats its scalability problems | 12:33 |
ttx | danpb: I wonder if setting a Google cal to consume the sched ics would solve the reliability issue by providing a hefty dose of caching | 12:33 |
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danpb | yeah could do | 12:34 |
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ttx | danpb: as they might schedule "maintenance" in the middle of their "night" | 12:34 |
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nagyz | in the #openstack logs I've seen others run into a similar issue when neutron's OVS firewall sets it up incorrectly | 12:34 |
nagyz | is there a change from grizzly->havana that related to OVSFirewall and has an effect like this/ | 12:34 |
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tellesnobrega | when a new project is created on openstack, is the information of the project saved anywhere on nova? | 12:42 |
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nagyz | for new tenant where does neutron copy the security rules from? | 13:44 |
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dsantos_ | ping bknudson | 13:55 |
tellesnobrega | hi, i need to get information from projects in nova, how can i make a call to keystone from nova using ReST API? is there any examples on the code? | 13:55 |
tellesnobrega | *are there? | 13:55 |
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bknudson | dsantos_: pong | 13:55 |
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dsantos_ | bknudson: hi, I've asked you about keystone running on 2 networks and you said me that I could configure keystone to listen all interfaces and showed me this line in the conf file https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/etc/keystone.conf.sample#L6 | 13:57 |
bknudson | dsantos_: the default is to listen on all interfaces | 13:57 |
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jgriffith | dolphm: ping | 13:58 |
dolphm | dsantos_: it's a bit more complicated (perhaps easier if just deploy to apache/etc), but you can also deploy two instances of keystone, each serving a distinct API, and configure the interfaces however you want | 13:58 |
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dolphm | jgriffith: pong | 13:58 |
dsantos_ | humm... but when I run the commands on debug mode, I saw that sometimes keystone redirect the call from one interface to another one | 13:58 |
jgriffith | dolphm: any thoughts on swapping keystone and cinder (Wed/Thurs) | 13:58 |
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dolphm | jgriffith: which keystone slots? | 13:59 |
dolphm | jgriffith: keystone's wednesday slots or cinder's wednesday slots? | 13:59 |
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jgriffith | dolphm: so cinder has the same block on thursday | 13:59 |
jgriffith | dolphm: but I have conflicts on thursday | 13:59 |
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dolphm | jgriffith: one of the biggest stakeholders for keystone's wednesday sessions will be giving a talk at the conference thursday morning :( | 14:00 |
dsantos_ | dolphm, bknudson: I have a devstack installation running in a server with two network interfaces and I have two keystone clients... each one can communicate with the API using just one specific network | 14:00 |
jgriffith | dolphm: well the good thing is the Cinder block is 1:50 - 6:00 (afternoon) | 14:00 |
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dsantos_ | dolphm, bknudson: I was trying to run normally but keystone redirect the call to the same IP all the time | 14:01 |
bknudson | dsantos_: to debug those kinds of problems I usually start with netstat -tlpn and make sure the server is listening as expected | 14:01 |
bknudson | then would check the firewall config | 14:01 |
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dsantos_ | bknudson: I'm gonna check that | 14:03 |
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tellesnobrega | dolphm: hi, i need to get information from projects in nova, how can i make a call to keystone from nova using ReST API? are there any examples on the code? | 14:03 |
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nagyz | when I look at ovs-vsctl, should the "tag" be the same as my segment_id on all of the hypervisors? | 14:05 |
stan_ivanov | tellesnobrega: hi, check this out: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/cloud/library/cl-openstack-pythonapis/ | 14:05 |
nagyz | or is it a "counter" for the gre tunnel? | 14:05 |
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tellesnobrega | stan_ivanov: thanks | 14:07 |
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dolphm | jgriffith: i don't really want to move slots to different days -- would you want our morning thursday slots? | 14:08 |
dolphm | jgriffith: (trade thursday slots for thursday slots) | 14:08 |
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dolphm | jgriffith: keystone has 9:00am & 9:50am in the same room | 14:09 |
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dolphm | jgriffith: ideally i'd like to keep those sessions back to back in one room (the second session is a continuation of the first) | 14:09 |
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stan_ivanov_ | anyone knows if I can import OVF in openstack? | 14:12 |
russellb | i don't think any real ovf support exists | 14:12 |
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Sonny_ | hello, is there anybody who know how run_tests.sh work, and why dont I have it by default ? | 14:16 |
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viktors | markwash: hi | 14:21 |
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stevemar | Sonny_, which project are you looking at? | 14:25 |
nagyz | can anybody give me a pointer on how to debug GRE traffic with OVS? :/ | 14:25 |
stevemar | ayoung: ping | 14:27 |
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jgriffith | dolphm: actually that might work as well | 14:28 |
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Sonny_ | stevemar, thanks I found news topics, i will try them and come if i need :) | 14:29 |
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stevemar | Sonny_ cool ;) | 14:29 |
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jgriffith | dolphm: so worst case if you wanted to swap your 9 and 9:50 with my 04:30 and 05:20 that would help out a bit | 14:32 |
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jgriffith | dolphm: if it creates problems don't worry about it, I have another idea | 14:32 |
jgriffith | dolphm: think about it and let me know later today | 14:32 |
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dolphm | jgriffith: i'd *prefer* earlier time slots for those topics -- but it's not really a problem | 14:32 |
dolphm | jgriffith: just means more hallway meetings on those topics in advance :) | 14:33 |
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dolphm | jgriffith: let's do 9:00 & 9:50 <--> 4:30 & 5:20 | 14:35 |
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fandikurnia01 | hi all | 14:36 |
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jgriffith | dolphm: excellent | 14:37 |
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jgriffith | ttx: looks like we have a solution, dolphm is willing to swap: Thursday 9:00 & 9:50 <--> 4:30 & 5:20 | 14:39 |
ttx | jgriffith: ok, let me make that happen | 14:40 |
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jgriffith | ttx: thanks, and dolphm thanks a ton! | 14:40 |
dolphm | jgriffith: /salute | 14:41 |
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ttx | jgriffith & dolphm: should look like this, confirm: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmUn0hzC1InKdDdPRXFrNjV4SW91SWF5N2gwYnRHYWc&usp=drive_web#gid=1 | 14:41 |
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jgriffith | ttx: aye | 14:42 |
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ttx | ok, moving slots and praying nothing will break | 14:42 |
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* ttx backups db first | 14:42 | |
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jaypipes | dolphm, ayoung, jamielennox, haneef: good morning sirs. would you mind hashing out differences over the region name attribute this morning pls? I'll do whatever you ask, I just need to be told what you prefer. | 14:45 |
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ayoung | jaypipes, um...morning is almost over for me...I have a meeting in 14 minutes | 14:46 |
ttx | dolphm: check http://summit.openstack.org/scheduling/10 and push if happy | 14:46 |
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ttx | jgriffith: check http://summit.openstack.org/scheduling/14 and push if happy | 14:47 |
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jaypipes | ayoung: ok, just making a request is all :) | 14:47 |
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jaypipes | jamielennox: also, if you are around, would appreciate a quick chat about one of your comments | 14:47 |
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ayoung | ttx, BTW, saw the tenatative schedule of Keystone talks...and I want you to know that I appreciate the Herculean..nay Sisyphean effort you and dolphm are putting in. | 14:47 |
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ayoung | jaypipes, jamie is asleep | 14:48 |
ayoung | he's in Brisbane Australia | 14:48 |
jaypipes | ayoung: ah, I see. :) ok then! | 14:48 |
ayoung | jaypipes, is this commented ojn the review? | 14:48 |
jaypipes | ayoung: yes, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54215/ | 14:49 |
ayoung | jaypipes, ah, the name thing...let's bring it up at the Keystone meeting at 2 Eastern | 14:50 |
ttx | dolphm: pushed to sched your part so that the resulting shced is not wedged | 14:50 |
ayoung | I think all will be attending...although Summit will probably trump | 14:50 |
ttx | dolphm: check http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/keystone for sanity now | 14:51 |
jaypipes | ayoung: sounds good. thx man. | 14:51 |
dolphm | ttx: looks good - thanks! | 14:52 |
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ayoung | jaypipes, it seems to me that the uuid/id thing is for deconflicting between two different servers making changes at the same time. Region is a very low volume change entity. I suspect saying "name" is the only identified, it must be URL safe, and it must be locally unique is an acceptable approach. Do we need id at all? | 14:53 |
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jaypipes | ayoung: I don't think so, no. I'd be happy with just name, with the caveat that it be unique to a deployment. | 14:54 |
jaypipes | ayoung: which is not the case today with the region tag on endpoint, BTW. | 14:54 |
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fandikurnia01 | hi all, i have some problem with openstack. Where our vm cannot access or ping outside, and someinterface indicated down state | 14:55 |
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fandikurnia01 | my result example : [root@controller-02 ~]# quantum port-show d898963e-39c7-48ac-aa04-927042807cc7 | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | which: no gedit in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin) | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | which: no kate in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin) | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | which: no vim in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin) | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | which: no emacs in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin) | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | which: no nano in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin) | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | which: no pico in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin) | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | +----------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | | Field | Value | | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | +----------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | | admin_state_up | True | | 14:56 |
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fandikurnia01 | | binding:capabilities | {"port_filter": false} | | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | | binding:vif_type | ovs | | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | | device_id | d1c75313-b605-4356-a397-37b3e60ab220 | | 14:56 |
nagyz | any OVS experts around? | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | | device_owner | network:floatingip | | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | | fixed_ips | {"subnet_id": "bdbd9d5f-3615-4e99-87d5-00aab4451287", "ip_address": "103.24.13.35"} | | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | | id | d898963e-39c7-48ac-aa04-927042807cc7 | | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | | mac_address | fa:16:3e:79:66:36 | | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | | name | | | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | | network_id | 8f306d5e-c29c-41f5-b2e7-46d650cbbdaa | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | network_id | 8f306d5e-c29c-41f5-b2e7-46d650cbbdaa | | 14:56 |
fandikurnia01 | | status | DOWN | | 14:57 |
fandikurnia01 | | tenant_id | | | 14:57 |
fandikurnia01 | +----------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 14:57 |
fandikurnia01 | sorry for long post :) | 14:57 |
stan_ivanov_ | fandikurnia01: use http://paste.openstack.org/ next time | 14:57 |
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fandikurnia01 | ok thanks | 14:58 |
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stevemar | nagyz: ping | 15:01 |
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ayoung | jaypipes, I'll keep that in mind... | 15:01 |
stevemar | ayoung: ping! my favorite person | 15:01 |
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nagyz | stevemar, so, I have a multi-node setup with OVS, and the VMs on the "local" node (meaning running all the services, so the controller) work fine, but not the other side of the GRE tunnel | 15:02 |
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nagyz | and besides confirming with tcpdump that the packets are indeed coming in, I don't know how to debug OVS further | 15:02 |
nagyz | I don't see them on the qvo interface | 15:03 |
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stevemar | nagyz: i think that message was for someone else | 15:04 |
nagyz | ah. :) | 15:04 |
nagyz | too bad. | 15:05 |
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stevemar | ayoung: take a look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51980/ i think i addressed your comments... | 15:11 |
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fandikurnia01 | hi all, update in paste.openstack.org | 15:12 |
fandikurnia01 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/50140/ | 15:12 |
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stan_ivanov_ | hello, is it possible to import an OVF file in openstack? | 15:20 |
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larsbutler | stan_ivanov_: not directly, it seems: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-image/content/ch_introduction.html#d6e117 (at least in Grizzly; I don't know if that changed in Havana) | 15:22 |
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stan_ivanov_ | thanks | 15:24 |
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devananda | mikal: what's it take to add another project to your reviewsummary graphs? | 15:25 |
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carl_baldwin | nati_ueno: ping on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37131/. You and salv-orlando: have shown support for this patch (you gave +2). What is left to do to get this merged? | 15:55 |
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mriedem | mordred: ping | 15:58 |
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nati_ueno | carl_baldwin: you need two +2. could you ask it for salvatore? | 15:58 |
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carl_baldwin | Yes, I will ping salvatore. Thank you. | 16:00 |
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thomasem | jaypipes, ping | 16:08 |
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jaypipes | thomasem: hello! | 16:08 |
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thomasem | jaypipes, Hey hey! I wanted to see if there was a reason other than the Alembic migration problems for the event_types table patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41316 | 16:09 |
thomasem | If not, I was going to dust it off, convert the migration to sa-migrate and resubmit, if you're cool w/ that. | 16:09 |
thomasem | I wanted to move along with the Event API BPs. | 16:09 |
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thomasem | jaypipes, reason it is sort of blocked, I mean. | 16:10 |
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jaypipes | thomasem: oh, please feel free! however, I believe that chris herndon from HP was looking at that... | 16:10 |
thomasem | jaypipes, Yep. I have a meeting with him in a few hours and wanted to check in with him too. :) | 16:10 |
thomasem | jaypipes, Awesome. Thanks!! | 16:10 |
jaypipes | thomasem: I got sidetracked with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46841/ | 16:11 |
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thomasem | That's right, I remember now. | 16:11 |
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jaypipes | thomasem: actually, no, I think herndon was gonna work on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46841/ first... | 16:11 |
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jaypipes | thomasem: so you should be good to go on event_types. | 16:12 |
thomasem | jaypipes: Perfect. =] | 16:12 |
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thomasem | jaypipes: Has there been any resolution with the Alembic stuff, btw? | 16:12 |
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jaypipes | thomasem: no, but not because I disagreed with anything from boris-42 and crew. just had not had the time to make the corrections, and while I delayed, lots more migrations were made, so it was a bit of a two-steps-forward-one-step-back effort :( | 16:13 |
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jaypipes | thomasem: herndon was gonna give a go to getting the corrections done and incorporating the new migrations that came in the last couple months. | 16:14 |
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boris-42 | jaypipes the problem was | 16:14 |
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boris-42 | jaypipes that patches that switch to alembic was merged before other patches | 16:14 |
boris-42 | jaypipes we should use models for creating tables in testing, not migrations | 16:15 |
jaypipes | boris-42: yes, totally understood and agreed. | 16:15 |
boris-42 | jaypipes then we will be able to drop support of sqlite | 16:15 |
boris-42 | jaypipes in migartions | 16:15 |
jaypipes | ++ | 16:15 |
thomasem | ++++++++ | 16:15 |
jaypipes | agreed. | 16:15 |
thomasem | (wasn't meaning to one up, was meaning to show support :) | 16:15 |
boris-42 | jaypipes but to make all this stuff we should test that models and migrations make the same schema | 16:15 |
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jaypipes | and once sqlite is no longer supported in migrations, then getting on alembic and only alembic should be a priority... | 16:16 |
boris-42 | jaypipes and this work seems like will be soon absolute done | 16:16 |
boris-42 | jaypipes yes and after 2 release we will be able to drop all old migartions | 16:16 |
boris-42 | jaypipes and sqlalchmey-migrate support | 16:16 |
jaypipes | ++ | 16:16 |
boris-42 | but this is huge amount of work | 16:17 |
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boris-42 | and wasn't finished in Havana | 16:17 |
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thomasem | jaypipes, boris-42: So, am I doing the right thing by converting this alembic migration to sa-migrate for the time being? | 16:17 |
thomasem | To move the API forward and all. | 16:17 |
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jaypipes | thomasem: yes, i think so... boris-42? | 16:19 |
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boris-42 | thomasem I am not sure that this is safe oepration | 16:19 |
thomasem | boris-42, Oh? | 16:20 |
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boris-42 | thomasem you see models are not synced with migrations (we found a tons of bugs working on this) | 16:22 |
boris-42 | thomasem there is a lot of nasty bugs in sqla-migarte that you even don't see=) | 16:22 |
thomasem | Oh :( | 16:22 |
boris-42 | thomasem there are another bugs in alembic | 16:22 |
boris-42 | thomasem usually you get as output different schemes in different backends | 16:23 |
boris-42 | thomasem so for me this is dangerous oeperation | 16:23 |
thomasem | Sure, but what alternative do I have, I guess is the question? | 16:23 |
boris-42 | thomasem even if you get at the end the same schema, you are not able to guarantee that the road was the same | 16:23 |
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boris-42 | thomasem about project we are speaking now? | 16:24 |
thomasem | boris-42, ^^ | 16:24 |
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thomasem | boris-42, ceilometer - specifically this reivew: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41316 | 16:24 |
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boris-42 | rpdolyaka ping | 16:24 |
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tellesnobrega | stan_ivanov_: hi, im looking at the python-apis that you suggested me, i have a c questions, if you can answer, how can i get the keystone url an | 16:35 |
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tellesnobrega | stan_ivanov_: and the current user name and password? | 16:37 |
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tellesnobrega | stan_ivanov_: i saw now that from context i already have the auth_token, can i use that for the connection? | 16:39 |
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thomasem | boris-42, Oh, I misunderstood your question. My asking about the Alembic work was because of the patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41316. I wanted to finish it up to move the Event API along. | 16:43 |
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boris-42 | thomasem I am little bit busy at this moment I will ask rpodolyaka to help you tomorrow okay?) | 16:44 |
thomasem | Ohhh okay, sure. Thanks, boris-42. | 16:44 |
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mriedem | open question: is it generally required or just good practice to send a note to the mailing list on new blueprints? | 16:45 |
mriedem | so people beside the PTL can review if they are interested? | 16:45 |
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russellb | good practice, but not required | 16:48 |
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russellb | what's required to get review is targeting it to a milestone | 16:48 |
russellb | review might result in the reviewer starting a thread if they feel it's necessary | 16:48 |
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tellesnobrega | stan_ivanov_: ping | 17:04 |
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nagyz | any neutron developers around? | 17:27 |
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tellesnobrega | dolphm: hey, can i ask you a couple questions? | 17:50 |
dolphm | tellesnobrega: about to start the keystone meeting, but sure | 17:51 |
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tellesnobrega | dolphm: im working on a new feature on nova, and i need to recover the domain that a project is in | 17:51 |
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tellesnobrega | the solution that came out was using the python-keystoneclient to recover the projects and get the domain | 17:52 |
dolphm | tellesnobrega: v3_keystoneclient_instance.projects.get(project_id).domain_id | 17:52 |
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dolphm | tellesnobrega: but more importantly, why do you need the domain? | 17:52 |
dolphm | i'm just curious / looking for use cases | 17:53 |
dolphm | tellesnobrega: auth_token also passes it down in context as PROJECT_DOMAIN_ID | 17:53 |
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tellesnobrega | dolphm: cool | 17:53 |
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tellesnobrega | dolphm: i am implementing domain quotas | 17:53 |
tellesnobrega | and im not suppose to change the QuotaEngine much, so i get from the interface the project_id and i need to recover the domain so i can enforce the quotas | 17:54 |
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dolphm | tellesnobrega: ooh, keystone is also implementing centralized quota storage | 17:55 |
dolphm | tellesnobrega: we have an implementation / api for project-based quotas already, we're looking to have an unconference session at the summit to expand scope to include domain-based quotas -- can you attend? | 17:55 |
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tellesnobrega | dolphm: when is that? | 17:55 |
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tellesnobrega | dolphm: at the summit, i wont be able to make it, but im sure that someone from HP will be there to talk about that | 17:56 |
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dolphm | tellesnobrega: what's your email, i'll CC you on a small thread about it | 17:57 |
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tellesnobrega | dolphm: do i need to authenticate anything to use the v3_keystoneclient_instance.projects.get(project_id).domain_id? | 17:57 |
tellesnobrega | dolphm: tellesnobrega@gmail.com | 17:57 |
dolphm | tellesnobrega: you'll need a token (or credentials) with authorization to call get_projects | 17:58 |
tellesnobrega | dolphm: i can get that on the context? | 17:58 |
dolphm | tellesnobrega: can you not get it out of the wsgi environment and save the call? | 17:58 |
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dolphm | tellesnobrega: yes | 17:59 |
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tellesnobrega | dolphm: Another thing, about the keystone url, is there anyway to get that? | 18:00 |
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dolphm | tellesnobrega: i think there's an env var that contains the user's catalog | 18:01 |
tellesnobrega | dolphm: thanks | 18:02 |
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tellesnobrega | dolphm: what should i import to use the v3_keystoneclient? | 18:07 |
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tellesnobrega | dolphm: found | 18:09 |
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tellesnobrega | hi, i need to get the os_auth_url (keystone url) on nova, how can i do that? thanks | 18:50 |
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SnowDust | keystone endpoint-get --service | 18:59 |
SnowDust | should give u | 19:00 |
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dolphm | jaypipes: jamielennox: ayoung: o/ | 19:03 |
ayoung | jamielennox, moving regions is something that is currently done, now | 19:03 |
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jamielennox | dolphm: but that's not moving a region, it's creating a new one then move the endpoints | 19:04 |
ayoung | so we should continue to support it. I think that the analogy to file systems where the name = dentry and id = path makes sense | 19:04 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, it is organizing a region | 19:04 |
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jamielennox | ayoung: that's not the debate, it's moving a region from one parent to another | 19:05 |
ayoung | you start out with one, then two..and push the current region down one level...then you add a few more..rebalance your tree... | 19:05 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, "region" is a container for endpoints | 19:05 |
jaypipes | jamielennox: also consider a deployment that has 3 different regions, none of which have any children. then perhaps the deployer wants to move one or more of those regions into a super-region... | 19:05 |
jaypipes | region should have no connotations of geography, keep in mind... | 19:05 |
ayoung | jamielennox, we could say that a region is immutable. Then, to add a new endpoint, you create a new region which is the union of the old region and the new endpoint...very functional...but not very smart | 19:06 |
jamielennox | no, an immutable region is not what i'm looking for at all | 19:06 |
ayoung | same thing is true here...a region is an organizational tool. If we want to maintain the id as immutable, we have to create a new region and copy | 19:07 |
ayoung | but thinking of it as a node in a tree is cleaner | 19:07 |
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jamielennox | ok, i actually agree on most of this with an immutable id, at the very least it fits our api better, i'm just not sure on the usage | 19:08 |
ayoung | jamielennox, are you OK with uuid id, then? I could have short cut this discussion if I remebered the logic, but it took morganfainberg 's reminder | 19:09 |
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jamielennox | we use the uuids elsewhere, i guess we should follow the same logic | 19:10 |
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dolphm | jamielennox: what about immutable ID + immutable name? and then the whole business of moving things around if you want to rename regions at the same times becomes a client side issue | 19:10 |
dolphm | and frankly, and easily solved one | 19:10 |
dolphm | the api remains predictable & consistent | 19:11 |
jamielennox | UUIDs for things created by API, LDAP gets a text id | 19:11 |
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dolphm | and you get fancy URL's | 19:11 |
jamielennox | i don't like to admit it, being all restful, but fancy urls is kind of what i was looking for here | 19:11 |
dolphm | jamielennox: you can have them lol | 19:12 |
jamielennox | GET /regions/{UUID} is just uglier than the other apis | 19:12 |
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jaypipes | jamielennox: which other APIs are you thinking of? | 19:12 |
jamielennox | jaypipes: anything with a UUID | 19:12 |
jaypipes | jamielennox: you mean anything without a UUID? | 19:13 |
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jamielennox | dolphm: so if id is immutable and name is immutable - why do i want both? | 19:13 |
gyee | dstanek, dolphm, increase the ulimit helped, now the tests ran through | 19:13 |
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jamielennox | jaypipes: no i mean this habbit of having particularly multiple uuids in a url - it's very descriptive but it's really cryptic for the user | 19:14 |
dstanek | gyee: nice | 19:15 |
jamielennox | jaypipes: i'm not advocating a change (it wouldn't work) but if we had descriptive ids (username) then you could look at a URL and know what it is doing without having to resolve those ids | 19:15 |
dolphm | jamielennox: i acknowledge, they become redundant -- you could allow name changes if you don't expect the id to be updated as well | 19:16 |
jamielennox | dolphm: so if id == url friendly name, and we have a description field as well i don't see the point of name | 19:17 |
dolphm | jamielennox: ideally, users should never see UUID's -- names should be sufficient for UI purposes | 19:17 |
jaypipes | jamielennox: agreed. | 19:17 |
ayoung | jamielennox, I think we make name mutable. | 19:17 |
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dolphm | jamielennox: where did a description field come from? | 19:17 |
jamielennox | ayoung: i think we ditch it | 19:17 |
jamielennox | dolphm: i'm sure there is a description field in that review | 19:18 |
dolphm | jaypipes: alright, so 180deg idea: what about no region names, and *add* PUT /v3/regions/{user_defined_region_id} | 19:18 |
ayoung | jamielennox, name is the segment, and needs only be locally unique. Tlike hostnames, then the region gets a FQDN by joining the segments | 19:18 |
dolphm | jaypipes: where POST /v3/regions assigned a UUID per usual | 19:18 |
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dolphm | jaypipes: that was on my wishlist anyway, but i wanted to do it for the entire api | 19:19 |
ayoung | dolphm, we still get a hierarchy? | 19:19 |
dolphm | jaypipes: not just one resource :) | 19:19 |
dolphm | ayoung: you get the hierarchy from parent_region_id, not from the URL | 19:19 |
jamielennox | dolphm: yep that works for me | 19:19 |
jaypipes | dolphm: zactly. | 19:19 |
jaypipes | dolphm: ++ from me. | 19:20 |
dolphm | ayoung: ++? | 19:20 |
jamielennox | the review has name as an optional field at the moment anyway | 19:20 |
jaypipes | jamielennox: you cool with the child_regions addition I put in there? list of full region objects, not a list of region IDs... | 19:20 |
jamielennox | ah, really haven't had a chance to look yet | 19:20 |
jaypipes | k, no probs | 19:20 |
dolphm | jaypipes: is that a resource or attribute? | 19:20 |
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jamielennox | it just went 5:20 am | 19:21 |
dolphm | jaypipes: GET /v3/regions/{region_id}/children or something? | 19:21 |
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dolphm | it's actually 7:21 pm | 19:21 |
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jaypipes | dolphm: it is a field in the region object returned. | 19:22 |
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jamielennox | again though i'm not sure what the use case for retrieving children is, i just thought it is something generally offered by this sort fo hierarchical api | 19:22 |
jaypipes | from a GET /regions/{region_id} | 19:22 |
jamielennox | dolphm: my mistake - that means i'm pretty much done for today then | 19:23 |
dolphm | jamielennox: UTC FTW | 19:23 |
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dolphm | jaypipes: ah, is that GET /regions or also per GET /regions/{region_id} ? | 19:24 |
jaypipes | dolphm: it is *just* on GET /regions/{region_id} | 19:25 |
jaypipes | dolphm: and only returns the first-level descendants only. | 19:25 |
dolphm | jaypipes: ah | 19:25 |
jaypipes | dolphm: the entire hierarchy can be constructed by a call to GET /regions of course... | 19:26 |
dolphm | jaypipes: so GET /regions returns a flat representation? | 19:26 |
dolphm | jaypipes: with parent_region_id's? | 19:26 |
mriedem | luisg: ping | 19:26 |
luisg | mriedem, w up | 19:27 |
jaypipes | dolphm: correct. | 19:27 |
mriedem | luisg: looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53199/ between patch 3 and the latest, it looks like basically getting v2 api tests covered and getting mock to work? | 19:28 |
jamielennox | jaypipes: i think maybe we leave out the children_ids, but a call to GET /regions/{id}/children returns a full object list | 19:28 |
dolphm | jaypipes: i'd prefer http://pasteraw.com/sqzzsbp5jepmbluxdqz0rzjutf9vcbj | 19:28 |
dolphm | jaypipes: but i don't completely object if you have a strong use case otherwise | 19:29 |
luisg | mriedem, correct | 19:29 |
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jaypipes | dolphm: sure, I could go for that. | 19:30 |
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jamielennox | hmm, the GET .../children is exactly the same as dolphm filter in this case | 19:30 |
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dolphm | jamielennox: ++ | 19:30 |
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dolphm | jaypipes: although i like your "child_regions" better than my "children" | 19:31 |
dolphm | it's more explicit | 19:31 |
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jaypipes | dolphm: I'd almost be inclined to combine your suggestion with jamielennox's suggestion and do "links": {"children": "http://auth.example.com/regions/{parent_region_id}/children" }} | 19:31 |
jaypipes | dolphm: well, either way :) | 19:32 |
dolphm | jaypipes: the only places we do child resources like that is when the relationship from parent to child is more complex than this | 19:32 |
jaypipes | dolphm: your choice. | 19:32 |
jaypipes | dolphm: child_regions then? :) | 19:32 |
dolphm | jaypipes: like GET /users/{user_id}/projects <-- users have ~1 billion different types of relationships with projects | 19:32 |
dolphm | jaypipes: sure | 19:32 |
jaypipes | dolphm: keep as child_regions? | 19:32 |
dolphm | jaypipes: yes | 19:32 |
jaypipes | dolphm: with full object representations inside? | 19:33 |
dolphm | jaypipes: oh i just meant... | 19:33 |
dolphm | jaypipes: http://pasteraw.com/3xyyklglcreriligza4i5kxcj990b7j | 19:33 |
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jaypipes | the link name should be child_regions instead of children? | 19:33 |
dolphm | jaypipes: yes | 19:33 |
dolphm | jaypipes: i meant i liked your name better than my name | 19:33 |
jamielennox | is child_regions present in the object if there are no child regions? | 19:34 |
jamielennox | (yes probably makes the most sense here) | 19:34 |
dolphm | jamielennox: implementation detail? it's either going to be an empty set or the service can pre-compute if there would be any values | 19:34 |
jaypipes | what about this alrternative? http://paste.openstack.org/ | 19:35 |
dolphm | the link will be valid in the future even if it's an empty set today | 19:35 |
jaypipes | right. | 19:35 |
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dolphm | jaypipes: that's a radical alternative, to be fair | 19:35 |
jaypipes | HATEOS an all that. | 19:35 |
jamielennox | dolphm: no, i don't like it as an implementation detail. If it's defined in the API then it's absense can be used to say that this region is terminal, if it's an implementation detail you can't say anything | 19:35 |
jamielennox | lol | 19:35 |
jaypipes | jamespage: ++ | 19:35 |
jaypipes | oops, jamielennox ++ :) | 19:36 |
dolphm | jamielennox: agree | 19:36 |
jamielennox | jaypipes: don't worry, jamespage and i have a long standing issue on this one | 19:36 |
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jaypipes | jamielennox, dolphm: doh, sorry, meant this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/50164/ | 19:37 |
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dolphm | jaypipes: i'm alright with that, but you might as well support filtering on the GET /v3/regions by parent_region_id as well, right? | 19:39 |
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dolphm | as well as well | 19:39 |
jamielennox | jaypipes: i'm inclined to go with dolphm and use filtering | 19:39 |
jaypipes | dolphm: yup, as requested by Mr. Young. :) | 19:39 |
jamielennox | (i'm just not used to thinking in terms of filtering our apis yet) | 19:39 |
jaypipes | sure, no worries. | 19:39 |
jamielennox | there isn't much point in providing another URL for something that can be done with the existing one | 19:40 |
jaypipes | yeah, good point. | 19:40 |
jamielennox | and the filter will return the full objects | 19:40 |
jaypipes | ya | 19:41 |
dolphm | jamielennox: jaypipes: we support a bunch of similar filters already https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/identity/controllers.py#L635 | 19:41 |
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jaypipes | ok, gimme a few minutes and I'll have an updated proposed spec up. | 19:41 |
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dolphm | jaypipes: going to run a quick errand, poke me if i don't give you a review when i get back | 19:44 |
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dsantos_ | hi... how can I install apache mod_nss on ubuntu? | 19:49 |
dsantos_ | I saw that in fedora I can run just "yum install mod_nss" | 19:50 |
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jamielennox | dsantos_: apt-cache search mod_nss doesn't give you the package name? | 19:51 |
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dsantos_ | jamielennox: no, it doesn't | 19:52 |
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dstanek | dsantos_: apt-cache search nss | grep apache | 19:53 |
dsantos_ | dstanek: thanks.. I think the package is "libapache2-mod-nss" | 19:53 |
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jamielennox | dsantos_: that looks right | 19:54 |
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ayoung | http://packages.debian.org/sid/libapache2-mod-nss | 19:56 |
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dsantos_ | ayoung: I'm trying to follow the steps the you wrote in your blog to deploy keystone in apache2 http://adam.younglogic.com/2012/04/keystone-httpd/ | 20:02 |
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ayoung | dsantos_, in a meeting...most of that is correct, some minor changes... | 20:03 |
dsantos_ | ayoung: ok | 20:03 |
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stevemar | dolphm: ping | 20:14 |
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reed | russellb, I sent a message to the mlist re blueprint review process, interested in your opinion | 20:26 |
reed | ttx, yours too :) | 20:26 |
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russellb | reed: just now? | 20:27 |
reed | russellb, couple minutes ago | 20:28 |
russellb | ah, k | 20:28 |
* russellb read it from the archive | 20:29 | |
russellb | will respond when it hits my client | 20:29 |
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reed | russellb, np, just giving a headsup | 20:30 |
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nagyz | so how could I verify that my provider settings are correct for neutron? anybody willing to walk me thru it? (I mean I think they are correct, with some manual fixes, it actually works with the GRE tunnel, but I can't decide if it's a bug or something I misconfigured...) | 21:06 |
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dolphm | jaypipes: poke me if you have a new patchset on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54215/ | 21:28 |
dolphm | jaypipes: s/if/when/ :) | 21:29 |
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gyee | dolphm, can you review this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51300/ now that catalog opt-out API is merged? | 21:36 |
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jamielennox | with all these how to search gerrit topics, has anyone figured out how to check that i don't have a current review on a patch? | 23:45 |
jamielennox | if i do -reviewer:jamielennox i see patches that i've never commented on | 23:46 |
jamielennox | but what about i've commented previous but a patch has been updated and i don't have a current review? | 23:46 |
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sdague | jamielennox: gerrit queries are kind of limitted, it will be any review that you ever commented on, regardless of whether you have a comment on the current patch | 23:51 |
jamielennox | sdague: i was actually going through your post, but reviewer is kind of useless if i can't differentiate what i've done and what i've got to do | 23:52 |
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sdague | yeh, agreed | 23:53 |
sdague | I use -owner a lot | 23:53 |
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sdague | that helps get my own stuff out of the way | 23:53 |
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sdague | honestly, there are a ton of more detailed queries that would be helpful in gerrit, but such is the state of the world :) | 23:53 |
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fungi | if you can stand using the webui, the default dashboard emboldens changes on which you're a reviewer but have not voted on the current patchset | 23:54 |
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fungi | however i've been unable to replicate that set with a query | 23:54 |
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fungi | i think it's hard-coded for the dashboard | 23:54 |
fungi | haven't looked deeply enough in the source to confirm, because EJAVA | 23:55 |
jamielennox | fungi: ok, i should use that view more often but that list is huge | 23:55 |
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fungi | tell me about it :( | 23:56 |
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fungi | i should take that as a sign that i'm falling way behind on reviews, but that would just depress me | 23:57 |
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jamielennox | whilst your here, do you know why tox has the setting LC_ALL=C ? | 23:59 |
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jamielennox | is that a requirement of CI or just something that has been inheritted from somewhere? | 23:59 |
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