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| jamielennox | bknudson: sorry i missed that conversation earlier, do the comments on discovery: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38414/ answer your questions? | 00:26 |
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| bknudson | jamielennox: let me look | 00:26 |
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| bknudson | jamielennox: why would the parameters to fetch_available_versions have to change? | 00:31 |
| bknudson | it shouldn't require authentication | 00:31 |
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| jamielennox | So the two things i'm worried about is passing a session object to fetch_available_versions | 00:31 |
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| bknudson | maybe I should be reviewing the sessions change first | 00:32 |
| jamielennox | if you have one from a different client you should reuse it, and also there was some discussion about that this would be an easily cachable result and that would likely want to happen on the session | 00:32 |
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| jamielennox | also you will need/want to pass that session object down into where the client is actually created | 00:33 |
| jamielennox | It might be that we just support both methods at least for now | 00:34 |
| bknudson | I think we should consider that to be a higher level function that would be implemented using the more primitive functions | 00:34 |
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| bknudson | it seems like being able to fetch the available versions is the most basic thing you can do. | 00:34 |
| bknudson | without caching | 00:34 |
| bknudson | and then caching would be built on top of that | 00:35 |
| jamielennox | so available versions returns a constructor object that has all the information needed to create a new client | 00:35 |
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| jamielennox | the second problem i had with the signature is the return value | 00:35 |
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| jamielennox | at the moment it returns a dictionary with a tuple version as the key and the constructor object as the value | 00:36 |
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| bknudson | that's an excellent question and goes to the heart of how can anyone even use identity api. | 00:36 |
| jamielennox | i'm not sure that's correct, it maybe should be a list | 00:36 |
| dolphm_a_ | bknudson: o/ can you fix the first sentence in the description of bug 1242855 | 00:37 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1242855 in keystone "Removing role adds role with LDAP backend" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1242855 | 00:37 |
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| bknudson | dolphm_a_: it's always hard to write a sentence that makes sense for these problems that depend on a configuration and action! | 00:37 |
| jamielennox | i had thought that as the signature to client.Client is really simple that i can keep the other function private for a while until we have a real use case for it | 00:37 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: we have a use case for getting the versions, it's so that applications can figure out what version the server supports. | 00:38 |
| dolphm_a_ | bknudson: what you wrote sounds like a critical? but i don't think the bug is | 00:38 |
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| dolphm_a_ | bknudson: i mean, i know i'm not understanding what you meant | 00:39 |
| bknudson | dolphm_a_: it requires admin to exploit | 00:39 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson: not really, the use case is to get a client that can be used that is guaranteed to be pointed at a minimum identity API version | 00:40 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson: i don't think it is to list the available options - i don't care. If i'm doing an operation i just want to know if it is available or not, what IS available often doesn't matter | 00:40 |
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| dolphm | you're both right | 00:42 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: I updated the text... https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1242855 | 00:42 |
| dolphm | as a client, i may do something different based on what api version is available -- so i might just want to get the list of versions and handle it msyelf | 00:42 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1242855 in keystone "Removing role adds role with LDAP backend" [Undecided,In progress] | 00:42 |
| dolphm | or i may require v 3.x and want to abort if that's not available | 00:43 |
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| dolphm | or i may know how to use v3.1, but if it's not available, i can skip those bits and deal with v3.0 | 00:43 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: do you think we should have a fetch_available_versions API? | 00:44 |
| jamielennox | dolphm: ok, yep the above was too strongly put i definately see that as a use case, i just meant that I don't know how i want to consume the list of versions yet so i was going to keep that bit private until we had a user for it | 00:44 |
| bknudson | the arguments would be whatever's required to connect (not authenticate) | 00:44 |
| bknudson | and it would return a list of versions | 00:44 |
| bknudson | the other question is -- does it include extensions info? | 00:45 |
| dolphm | bknudson: erm... this is a critical, isn't it? | 00:45 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: so returning strings and URLs, not objects | 00:45 |
| dolphm | bknudson: sure, i would use that | 00:45 |
| dolphm | bknudson: fetch_available_versions | 00:45 |
| dolphm | i'd expect a list of tuples as the result, i suppose | 00:45 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: not as yet, but i got that extension stuff passed identity-api for 3.2 so that we could do a similar process for extensions | 00:45 |
| bknudson | dolphm: the bug is pretty nasty. | 00:46 |
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| bknudson | I mean you think you've removed authority and it's actually granted | 00:46 |
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| bknudson | jamielennox: If the extensions are returned with the same REST call then seems like it should all be returned together by the client. | 00:47 |
| dolphm | or something like {(3, 2): 'http://identity/v3/'} | 00:47 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: they aren't in the same call there is a similar call at /v3/extensions i think | 00:47 |
| jamielennox | dolphm: the dictionary is what i do at the moment | 00:47 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: ok, I thought they were all together, so a separate API makes more sense. | 00:47 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: with tuples as keys or values? | 00:48 |
| jamielennox | the tuple of API version as the key | 00:48 |
| jamielennox | the value is a constructor object | 00:48 |
| dolphm | works for me | 00:48 |
| dolphm | erm | 00:48 |
| dolphm | so not a primitive? | 00:48 |
| jamielennox | so you can say available_versions(auth_url=....)[3.0]() | 00:49 |
| dolphm | (side rant- we need to stop using "auth_url") | 00:49 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, ++ | 00:49 |
| jamielennox | dolphm: ++ | 00:49 |
| morganfainberg | (see i am lurking around here) | 00:49 |
| bknudson | what's wrong with auth_url | 00:49 |
| morganfainberg | somewhere... | 00:49 |
| bknudson | identity_url? | 00:50 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: i don't like the confusion between auth_url and endpoint | 00:50 |
| dolphm | bknudson: because it's an identity service endpoint | 00:50 |
| bknudson | identity_endpoint | 00:50 |
| dolphm | bknudson: that's better | 00:50 |
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| morganfainberg | yep. | 00:50 |
| jamielennox | i'm hoping that once we have pluggable auth the endpoint variable will move to another object and we can just have url= | 00:50 |
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| bknudson | I'm not sure about endpoint since it's not really the "end"... there's more beyond it. | 00:51 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, i still like the concept of using a srv record | 00:51 |
| morganfainberg | or similar (at least supporting it) | 00:51 |
| dolphm | me too | 00:52 |
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| dolphm | i'm wondering if it's possible to make devstack support it | 00:52 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, likely, devstack can … pretty much do whatever it wants ;) | 00:53 |
| jamielennox | that would be cool | 00:53 |
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| dolphm | this is not untrue | 00:53 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, side note, looks like i finally am getting back to "normal" here… offices moved, house moved… starting to write code again.. *phew* | 00:53 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: YAY | 00:54 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: i added you to some code reviews today ;) | 00:54 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: was just thinking it seems like a while since i've seen you | 00:54 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, yeah i've been fighting the move house move office, etc hell | 00:54 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, i'll start looking at the queue here again. i've been trying to toss in when i have a few minutes. | 00:55 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, but… it's all settling down just in time to hit the 15hr flight to HK! ;) | 00:55 |
| morganfainberg | (yay for wifi on the flight) | 00:55 |
| jamielennox | anyway trying to draw people back to the original point: if you look at the _get_versions_from_response() function, that already returns things as {(2,0): 'http://host/v2.0', (3,0): 'http://host/v3'} i can change that around and make that public | 00:56 |
| dolphm | i don't think i have wifi :( | 00:56 |
| jamielennox | wifi on the flight? seriously? we're still not allowed to turn our phone on | 00:56 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: ? | 00:56 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: you can use whatever > 10,000 ft | 00:57 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, we can't turn on cell phones (cell data) but a lot of planes provide wifi and you can use just about anything (short of a ham radio) > 10,000ft | 00:57 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: and back on the original point-- you said hte value was a constructor object, but your example there is just strings | 00:57 |
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| jamielennox | anyway no wifi on planes | 00:57 |
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| jamielennox | yea, two different functions | 00:58 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, oh, so you're going to have a different dataset (the contructor objecT)? | 00:58 |
| jamielennox | _get_versions_from_response() takes a requests.Response object returns strings | 00:58 |
| morganfainberg | or are we still dealing with strings? | 00:58 |
| jamielennox | available versions turns strings into _KeystoneVersion constructor objects | 00:58 |
| morganfainberg | ah, argument != return | 00:58 |
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| bknudson | jamielennox: so if you have an auth_url or _endpoint of http://host , you get the 2 (on latest keystone) | 00:58 |
| morganfainberg | erm arg_type | 00:59 |
| bknudson | but if you have http://host/v2.0 you get just v2 ? | 00:59 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: full name | 00:59 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, ? | 00:59 |
| dolphm | if you give me a public method to list versions like your example up there, i'd be super happy | 00:59 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: so that it gets passed off to keystoneclient.v3.Client(auth_url=) | 00:59 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: not sure what your question was.. the _get_versions_from_response was just a helper function, but i can easily rearrange that to be public | 01:00 |
| jamielennox | that's why it took a response object | 01:00 |
| morganfainberg | no i meant full name? | 01:00 |
| morganfainberg | not sure what you mean by full name | 01:00 |
| jamielennox | oh full qualified url | 01:00 |
| morganfainberg | AH. | 01:01 |
| morganfainberg | ok ok, now it makes sense | 01:01 |
| jamielennox | my fingers are sometimes faster than my brain | 01:01 |
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| morganfainberg | eh, we just have a lot of overloaded terminology, i always figure it's better to ask | 01:01 |
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| morganfainberg | yeah having that be public could be very useful | 01:02 |
| bknudson | I guess it could be extended in the future to return a dict-like object that's callable | 01:02 |
| bknudson | should say it would return a dict where the endpoint is a string-like object that's callable, and returns a client. | 01:04 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson: so the reason i hvae the constructor factory is that most things passed to the client.Client() function need to get passed to the client.v2_0.Client or v3.Client | 01:05 |
| bknudson | and could override [] to be smarter about handling version #s. | 01:05 |
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| jamielennox | if you did available_versions(auth_url = ...) etc you would need to parse the return value, and use the url as the auth_url for the next call to the appropriate client | 01:06 |
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| jamielennox | with the example i gave before i can say available_versions(auth_url=....)[3.0](username='jamielennox', password='abc123') | 01:06 |
| jamielennox | and auth_url is automatically passed through to the real client object | 01:07 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, hrm. there is something that rubs me the wrong way about that | 01:07 |
| bknudson | that's pretty neat. | 01:07 |
| morganfainberg | not the concept…the implementation | 01:08 |
| morganfainberg | erm, description | 01:08 |
| bknudson | I'd like to keep it simple at first. | 01:08 |
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| bknudson | The fancy stuff can be added later. | 01:08 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, fair enough. | 01:09 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i'm trying to put my finger on what is bugging me about it | 01:09 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, it's nothing major…but something…. is setting off the bells, yanno how that goes sometimes? | 01:09 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: is it the use of a float for the version? | 01:09 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, that is likely it. | 01:09 |
| jamielennox | the same thing would work with available_versions(auth_url=...., username='jamielennox', password='abc123')[3.0]() whatever, it's just otherwise i need to return the client Class that should be used and the url to use with it | 01:09 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: the concern that the args for 2.0 aren't the same is for 3.0? | 01:09 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i think we really should be 100% tuple for version | 01:09 |
| jamielennox | so klass, url = available_versions(auth_url=...); klass(auth_url=url, username='jamielennox') | 01:10 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: both of the calls, where the args are in available_versions or in the factory call are making sense to me | 01:11 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: i like that idea too, but https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-version-discovery-proposal has been out for a while and it specifies floats | 01:11 |
| bknudson | I'd like to see it as an add-on after the basic function is done. | 01:12 |
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| jamielennox | and the current Client(..).version value is a string | 01:12 |
| bknudson | we could add a new version that returns a tuple. | 01:13 |
| bknudson | Client.version_tuple | 01:13 |
| jamielennox | bknudson, it's on my 1.0 list | 01:13 |
| jamielennox | not necessarily version_tuple but figure out what Client(..).version actually means cause at the moment telling me that it's 'v3' doesn't help at all | 01:14 |
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| jamielennox | s/at all/very much | 01:15 |
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| jamielennox | anyway | 01:18 |
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| jamielennox | should available_versions return a dict with version->url or a list of tuples (version, url)? | 01:19 |
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| bknudson | jamielennox: with a dict you could do [(3,0)] ? | 01:20 |
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| bknudson | jamielennox: the [(3,0)] worked for me, so I'm good with a dict. | 01:21 |
| jamielennox | yea, a tuple is hashable so you can use it as a dictionary key | 01:21 |
| bknudson | is there any reason I'd want to go the other way around... figure out the version for the endpoint? | 01:22 |
| bknudson | I can't think of a reason to do that. | 01:22 |
| bknudson | so I think a dict of version tuple -> endpoint works for me. | 01:22 |
| jamielennox | not that i can think of | 01:22 |
| jamielennox | but, you do need to know if it's stable | 01:23 |
| bknudson | so there's more info... | 01:23 |
| jamielennox | so it would probably need to be a dictionary as the value with at least {'url': 3.0, 'stable': 'beta'} or something | 01:23 |
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| bknudson | would there be both a stable and unstable for a version? | 01:23 |
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| jamielennox | so there's no reason you couldn't just stick url in there as well | 01:23 |
| jamielennox | but at which point you may as well just use the constructor objects i've already got | 01:24 |
| bknudson | what does the API return, is it a list of objects? | 01:24 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: not for the same version i think, but you would want to know if for example the upcoming 3.2 that is listed is stable or not for use | 01:24 |
| bknudson | the REST call | 01:24 |
| jamielennox | i think it's a list of dicts | 01:25 |
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| jamielennox | it's not keyed | 01:26 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: after looking at this, seems like the most basic thing we could do is have a list of objects, just like the REST api returns. | 01:26 |
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| bknudson | then you can build whatever extra functionality on top of that. | 01:27 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: yea, i thought about that, but is there ever a situation where you will have multiple urls for the same version? | 01:28 |
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| jamielennox | if not then the benefit of indexing the dict comes at no cost | 01:28 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: it's kind of odd right now that the server returns v3.0 but it's actually more like 3.2 | 01:28 |
| jamielennox | yea, that's a bug | 01:29 |
| jamielennox | it is suppoesd to be 3.1 | 01:29 |
| bknudson | should we have both a 3.0 and a 3.1 ? | 01:29 |
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| bknudson | they'd both have the same "self" link | 01:29 |
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| jamielennox | we shouldn't need to because 3.1 includes all of 3.0 | 01:30 |
| jamielennox | but there is no reason we couldn't | 01:30 |
| jamielennox | the more likely is we have a stable 3.1 and an unstable 3.2 | 01:31 |
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| bknudson | I guess it depends on what an application would expect... if it's looking for "v3.0" explicitly then it would break if we only had "v3.1" | 01:32 |
| jamielennox | yea | 01:32 |
| jamielennox | ok, lets just support the list | 01:32 |
| bknudson | You could make it as simple as just call the REST API (/) and return the parsed dict from JSON | 01:34 |
| bknudson | could "normalize" if you call with / or /v3 or /v2.0 by putting v3 or v2 in [] | 01:34 |
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| jamielennox | the normalize part is handled already, but yea, i could just have it return a list of dicts straight from the server | 01:41 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i like bknudson's idea with normalize handling in the [] (e.g. [v2]) | 01:58 |
| morganfainberg | it does mirror closely what we already have. | 01:59 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: i don't think that's what he meant | 01:59 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, hrm. | 01:59 |
| jamielennox | if you call / you get a list of versions | 01:59 |
| morganfainberg | oh | 01:59 |
| morganfainberg | i see | 01:59 |
| morganfainberg | yeah | 01:59 |
| jamielennox | if you call eg /v2.0 you get one version | 01:59 |
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| morganfainberg | make it an implicit return of what is available. | 02:00 |
| jamielennox | to override [] would mean createing a new object with a custom __getitem__ | 02:00 |
| morganfainberg | eh, not like we don't do that all over the place in other projects :P | 02:00 |
| morganfainberg | keystone seems to do less of the make this like a dict…no really | 02:00 |
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| comay | a question around '[upgrade_levels]' in havana, particuarly wrt nova's conductor | 02:01 |
| comay | does using it negate the ability to perform conductor operations remotely (use_local=false)? | 02:01 |
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| jamielennox | morganfainberg: except where it shouldn't, like AccessInfo has a dict base class | 02:01 |
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| morganfainberg | comay, if no one answers you here #openstack-nova might also be able to help (people lurk in both places) | 02:02 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, right | 02:02 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, wow, a couple weeks paying less attention to IRC i feel like the code has moved significantly without my noticing. | 02:03 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, (not that i actually has, i just feel… behind) | 02:03 |
| comay | ah, thanks morganfainberg; digging through nova/cmd/compute.py, it seems one precludes the other | 02:03 |
| morganfainberg | comay, that seems icky =/ but i haven't taken a serious look at that part of nova in a while. | 02:04 |
| morganfainberg | i'm sure there is a good reason for that | 02:04 |
| comay | or just as likely, i'm misreading something :) | 02:05 |
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| comay | (the content was i was bringing just a havana nova-compute node into grizzly installation and struggling with the nova-conductor API versions) | 02:06 |
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| comay | (it's either too high or too low - sounds like the goldilocks) | 02:07 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, about the "region" patch in the client. I think that we are going to have something happen server side, and I suspect that the client side approach is wrong. | 02:26 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: the existing client side approach is wrong | 02:27 |
| jamielennox | but i have no choice because it was supported there for a while about 4 releases ago | 02:27 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, so what is your patch working around? | 02:28 |
| jamielennox | everywhere i've put region handling on the client side i've put great big deprecated comments | 02:28 |
| jamielennox | there is a bug | 02:28 |
| ayoung | the bug looks like a feature request to me | 02:28 |
| jamielennox | but the best explanation i saw was in a review comment by Cody dated Oct 9 | 02:29 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, its like, they decided "hey we are going to add this attribute." And then "Why are you not filtering on our attribute?" | 02:29 |
| jamielennox | so the problem was the attribute was added previously | 02:29 |
| jamielennox | and then removed and we broke compatabillity | 02:29 |
| jamielennox | this is why i was so against it in the first few patches and i considered it a feature request | 02:30 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, define "we" | 02:30 |
| jamielennox | but he's right we used to allow it | 02:30 |
| jamielennox | keystoneclient | 02:30 |
| ayoung | allow it is one thing, but you look like you are doing client side filtering on it | 02:30 |
| jamielennox | i've no idea who's fault it was | 02:30 |
| jamielennox | :) | 02:30 |
| ayoung | what's git blame say? | 02:31 |
| jamielennox | here is where it was added to keystoneclient: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20294/ | 02:31 |
| jamielennox | here is where it was taken away: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20404/ | 02:31 |
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| jamielennox | anyway client side filtering is fine | 02:32 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, so it looks like it was removed unintentionally? | 02:32 |
| jamielennox | you just shouldn't filter by setting the region as a parameter on the service catalog | 02:32 |
| jamielennox | yea, it was unintentional | 02:33 |
| jamielennox | but it should never have been allowed like that in the first place | 02:33 |
| ayoung | ok, since I approved the change that broke it... | 02:34 |
| jamielennox | do you follow what the patch is fixing? | 02:34 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, yeah, and I am worried that we gave life to something we now need to support | 02:34 |
| jamielennox | version 1.0 | 02:34 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: my notes: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystoneclient-1.0 | 02:35 |
| ayoung | jamespage, So we support client side filtering by region of the endpoints. Anything else nasty like this that I missed? | 02:35 |
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| ayoung | aside from pinging the wrong person? | 02:36 |
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| jamielennox | xchat has an option so tab complete fills the last person that spoke, i'm not sure why that's not the default | 02:36 |
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| ayoung | let me find that | 02:37 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, thats a neat feature | 02:37 |
| jamielennox | in preferences: interface > Input Box > Nick completion sorted | 02:38 |
| ayoung | XChat preferences -> Input Box -> Nick Completions Sorted -> Last-spoke order | 02:38 |
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| ayoung | heh | 02:38 |
| jamielennox | jamespage: your worries are over | 02:38 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, until you try to ping yourself | 02:39 |
| jamielennox | so client side filtering of the service catalog is fine - it's even good | 02:39 |
| jamielennox | it's just that a ServiceCatalog should be considered shared so you shouldn't be installing a region into it | 02:39 |
| morganfainberg | new plan, randomly change name to something close to who jamielennox is talking to and interject randomly. | 02:40 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: you've got an evil mind | 02:40 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i don't see an issue in filtering the service catalog in this context | 02:40 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, its just wrong to do client side what, in this case, should be done server side. Band aid on a sucking chest wound. | 02:40 |
| jamielennox | i wrote out a whole scenario about sharing the catalog between swift and keystone - i *think* that's reasonable | 02:41 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, looks more like a gauze bandage we need to change out soon… but at least the blood isn't all over the floor. | 02:41 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: 2 things, 1 you might need multiple regions 2. server side region filtering hasn't been done yet and we need something in the mean time | 02:41 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, no, its worse than that. He's dead Jim. | 02:42 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, lol | 02:42 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i think the latter is the more salient point. | 02:42 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, we had a BP and and API spec for a Region extension to the Service catalog, but He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named-in-IRC -2ed it and it died. We resurrected it today | 02:42 |
| jamielennox | well the above link is my raw ongoing list of things i want for a 1.0, the client summit proposal got approved so we'll be talking about something client | 02:43 |
| morganfainberg | oh huh i should see what sessions were approved | 02:43 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/27563/ | 02:43 |
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| ayoung | HTML got the axe, no surprise there. I should have submitted it as a Horizon session | 02:44 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ah i thought that was who you were talking about | 02:44 |
| ayoung | Oh yeah | 02:44 |
| ayoung | He was pretty cool back when were both in Slythering | 02:45 |
| ayoung | try typing that without adding an 'g' it is impossible | 02:45 |
| ayoung | Slytherin | 02:45 |
| ayoung | I had to backspace it | 02:46 |
| morganfainberg | yeah, g just wants to jump onto the end of that word | 02:46 |
| morganfainberg | every time | 02:46 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think the /regions resource is a "good idea"™ | 02:48 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, we all do. I think his complain has been covered too. We had a pretty extensive discussion today. Filter is part of the API, just as an extension ,and should cover selectively filtering by region or what a region will show. | 02:49 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, yeah, i would agree with that assessment | 02:49 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, unrelated, started work on the new KVS stuff. hopefully by the end of the week i'll have the new base changes done. | 02:49 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, need an opinion though, should we keep keystone.common.kvs in it's current state for now and add deprecation and make this "new thing" something like keystone.common.dkvs or similar" | 02:50 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, sounds good. I'd like it if the old options were supported, and were one liners like "extends dogpile(memcached)" | 02:51 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, that would be my initial thought… at least for a release (maybe +2) | 02:51 |
| morganfainberg | toss some deprecation warnings in. I don't want to rip the carpet out from under anyone with this change | 02:52 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, I'm not 100% sure that the existing filtering is sufficient. I suspect we will need filtering on the hierarchical regions themselves. A company may want to return a differnt set of availabel regions depending on a users contract, and that will probably be an implicit filter beyond what he's spec'ed out, but that can probably be and incremental feature addition. | 02:52 |
| ayoung | I think that KVS stuff might be the killer feature in Icehouse. It will certainly be used. | 02:53 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, that's a good point. I am not sure if it's an "add-on" for rregions though. it's more like a wholly separate filtering syntax. | 02:54 |
| morganfainberg | erm approach | 02:54 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, it is an addition fopr the admin API. | 02:54 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, ah in that context, yes | 02:54 |
| morganfainberg | ok | 02:54 |
| ayoung | it is not explicit filtering, it is hidden from the user | 02:54 |
| morganfainberg | oh, sort of like endpoint filtering works currently | 02:54 |
| morganfainberg | but, probably a bit more enforceable. | 02:55 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, yeah, really just extending the concept to the new other object in the service catalog | 02:55 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, maybe that could be a good approach, make endpoint filtering more "catalog" filtering. | 02:56 |
| morganfainberg | it would need some reworking, but it essentially solves the same basic concept. | 02:56 |
| morganfainberg | is there a need to have two separate catalog filtering mechanisms (e.g. is endpoint filtering different enough to warrant that) | 02:57 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: as you were here for the conversation earlier, if i use available_versions for the function that returns a bunch of raw strings, what should i use for the function that returns the constructor objects | 02:57 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, yep, since enumeration of regions is hierarchical, it is not covered by endpoint filtering | 02:57 |
| ayoung | global->us->west->bay_area | 02:57 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, hm. right | 02:57 |
| morganfainberg | ->i_swear_our_transit_isnt_on_strike | 02:58 |
| morganfainberg | too soon? | 02:58 |
| ayoung | but while all customer see us->west and us->east the intel community also sees us->intel | 02:58 |
| morganfainberg | maybe i'm feeling loopy tonight. | 02:58 |
| ayoung | "tonight?" and what do we say on Passover? | 02:58 |
| morganfainberg | lol. why is this night different than all other nights? | 02:59 |
| morganfainberg | or in my family "why did aunt soandso get to cook the brisket again?" | 02:59 |
| ayoung | Heh | 02:59 |
| ayoung | Did she boil it? My Wife's Aunt once Boiled the Turkey | 02:59 |
| ayoung | shudder | 03:00 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, she cooked it for like 1hr | 03:00 |
| morganfainberg | and glared at people who didn't eat it | 03:00 |
| morganfainberg | it was aweful | 03:00 |
| ayoung | that is like pan seared brisket | 03:00 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, available_clients? | 03:00 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i might be mis-reading the question | 03:01 |
| ayoung | OK...bed time here in the global->us->east region | 03:01 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: night | 03:01 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, it is near that time here as well for me. | 03:01 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, catch ya tomorrow | 03:01 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: that's the right idea, i just need a new function name | 03:01 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, depends on how complex you want it | 03:02 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, it might be soemthing as simple as .available_clients or .available_versions_clients | 03:03 |
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| jamielennox | morganfainberg: i'll use available_clients, i'm going to keep it private for now anyway i think | 03:03 |
| morganfainberg | hrm. maybe .available_version_objects ? | 03:03 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i think that is the most analogous and descriptive you can be | 03:03 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, yeah make it private until we are sure we want it public (better approach than the inverse) | 03:04 |
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| jamielennox | morganfainberg: indeed | 03:05 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: have a look: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38414 | 03:06 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, hehe, i see what you did there… get me to look at it when sleepy :P | 03:06 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, looking now | 03:06 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: that's ok, no one else will be able to review it till tomorrow anyway | 03:07 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, hehe | 03:07 |
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| jamielennox | morganfainberg: where/why did you move? | 03:07 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, about 4.4 miles from the previous place, and suffice to say it involved lawyers and unlivable conditions. | 03:07 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, of the ruined carpet (dog … messes seeped into the carpet and padding), deferred maintenance, etc. | 03:08 |
| morganfainberg | type. | 03:08 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: oh, right - so not exactly leaving on amicable terms | 03:08 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i'm hoping that i wont need more lawyer time to get the last few things buttoned up | 03:09 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, and my work moved to our new permanent offices :) | 03:09 |
| morganfainberg | super nice. | 03:09 |
| jamielennox | cool | 03:10 |
| morganfainberg | well permanent until we grow significantly headcount wise | 03:10 |
| jamielennox | how big is it now? | 03:10 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, added a comment (no -1 or +) to the review. | 04:50 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, just something worth considering | 04:50 |
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| morganfainberg | i'll look more closely when i'm not ½ asleep | 04:51 |
| morganfainberg | before giving a +/- score to the code. | 04:51 |
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| jamielennox | so you mean if someone asks for a client.Client(version=(4, 0)) don't even bother hitting the server? | 04:52 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, basically | 04:53 |
| jamielennox | should be a fairly easy addition | 04:53 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, client wont know what the hell to do with it, it shouldn't even try. | 04:53 |
| jamielennox | i'm not sure if it buys much | 04:53 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, it also should be able to be directly queried e.g. client.supported_versions | 04:54 |
| jamielennox | i mean if you want to use client version 4 you are going to need to have keystoneclient>=3.0 in your requirements.txt | 04:54 |
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| morganfainberg | this is more for a 3rd party (e.g. me) writing code that may be 3.0 aware in the future…and have 4.0 functionality | 04:55 |
| morganfainberg | so, use 4.0 if it's there… i'd rather say "client.can_support_Version(x) no? fall back" | 04:55 |
| morganfainberg | it's a convienence feature | 04:55 |
| morganfainberg | it saves a try 4.0 oh that failed, try 3.0, oh that failed, try 2.0 | 04:56 |
| morganfainberg | some servers may have mis-matched clients on them in the wild | 04:56 |
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| morganfainberg | i'm trying to think as an end consumer not an OpenStack project. | 04:56 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, like i said, it's just a thought, it's wy i didn't -1 for it. | 04:57 |
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| morganfainberg | i'll add a score when i'm not loopy. | 04:58 |
| morganfainberg | :) | 04:58 |
| jamielennox | no worries, thanks for taking a look | 04:58 |
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| alexpilotti | jd__: hi | 08:24 |
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| alexpilotti | jd__: I'm having some issues understanding a ceilometer-agent-compute issue | 08:26 |
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| alexpilotti | jd__: they get solved by setting the full service_credentials in the ceilometer conf file on compute, but I'd like to be sure I'm doing the right thing :-) | 08:37 |
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| dolphm | ttx: just wanted to make you aware of bug 1242855 | 12:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1242855 in keystone "Removing role adds role with LDAP backend" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1242855 | 12:27 |
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| Jabadia | from compute. | 12:38 |
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| bknudson | Keystone has this file keystone/tests/_ldap_livetests.py ... | 14:34 |
| bknudson | with the switch to testr, how do I run the tests? | 14:34 |
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| bknudson | tox -e py27 _ldap_livetests doesn't do it. | 14:34 |
| dolphm | bknudson: testr _ldap_livetests ? | 14:35 |
| dolphm | dstanek: ^ | 14:35 |
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| bknudson | I tried changing the name to ldap_livetests.py and testr still doesn't find it for some reason | 14:37 |
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| bknudson | It doesn't show up in "python -m subunit.run discover -t . ./keystone/tests --list" | 14:37 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: hmm, i wonder if testr hates the underscore prefix | 14:40 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: let me know if i'm overlooking something on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49986/ | 14:42 |
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| dstanek | dolphm, bknudson: looking now | 15:36 |
| dstanek | dolphm, bknudson: are those test not normally run in the test cycle? | 15:37 |
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| bknudson | dstanek: I was able to work around it by renaming _ldap_livetests.py to test_ldap_live.py | 15:37 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: k, i'll look in a few then when i finish up what i'm doing | 15:38 |
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| bknudson | dstanek: the _ldap_livetests.py (there's also a live test for sql) doesn't normally run... it requires an actual ldap server. | 15:38 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49986 do you need to test that bind is never called? | 15:38 |
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| bknudson | dstanek: do you want a new test added? | 15:42 |
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| bknudson | dstanek: the test_user_api_get_connection_no_user_password test was added because there was a security bug. | 15:43 |
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| bknudson | maybe a better option is to 'common_ldap.register_handler('fake://', fakeldap.FakeLdap)' after CreateMock? | 15:45 |
| bknudson | the lambda is just the first thing I came up with. | 15:45 |
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| bknudson | dstanek: looks like that's also what you suggested. | 15:46 |
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| pasm | hi guys | 15:59 |
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| pasm | who can help me about keystone? | 16:00 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: based on the test comment bind isn't supposed to be called, but i don't think that was being checked | 16:01 |
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| dolphm | pasm: depends on what your question is :) ask away! | 16:01 |
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| pasm | it's about the definition of a custom identity backend for keystone | 16:02 |
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| alexpilotti | mriedem: pring | 16:02 |
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| pasm | dolphm: do you know where i can find some documentation? (read the code is not a valid answer... :-)) | 16:04 |
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| mriedem | alexpilotti: pong | 16:05 |
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| dolphm | pasm: well, the identity drivers are "defined" by the base identity.Driver class https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/identity/core.py#L564-L736 | 16:06 |
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| alexpilotti | mriedem: hi there, we are having the Hyper-V meeting, in case you'd like to join :-) | 16:07 |
| dolphm | pasm: but if you want less code :P http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/api/keystone.identity.core.html | 16:07 |
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| pasm | dolphm: heheh... at the moment i defined a file (custom.py) that "should" implement my identity backend | 16:07 |
| mriedem | alexpilotti: getting caught up on about 4 days of reviews, so not today | 16:07 |
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| alexpilotti | mriedem: np! | 16:07 |
| dolphm | pasm: are you writing this against master or a stable branch? | 16:08 |
| pasm | dolphm: i extended the class identity.Driver | 16:08 |
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| pasm | dolphm: stable/havana | 16:08 |
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| dolphm | pasm: (master is now using ABCMeta classes, so you'll get better feedback about the gaps in your implementation) | 16:08 |
| dolphm | pasm: you can also test your class based on keystone.tests.test_backend:IdentityTests | 16:09 |
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| pasm | dolphm: ok | 16:10 |
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| pasm | dolphm: i will try... | 16:11 |
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| pasm | dolphm: thankyou | 16:12 |
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| dhellmann-afk | markwash: ping? | 17:45 |
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| markwash | dhellmann: hi! | 17:45 |
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| dhellmann | markwash: hi! | 17:45 |
| dhellmann | I'm looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53156/ | 17:45 |
| dhellmann | the iso8601 thing | 17:45 |
| markwash | ah yes, we were just discussing it in #openstack-infra | 17:46 |
| dhellmann | do you know what's going on there? | 17:46 |
| dhellmann | oh, I'll move over there... | 17:46 |
| markwash | dhellmann: I think we've got it covered at this point | 17:46 |
| markwash | dhellmann: glance needs to work with both the old and new versions, and not depend quite as heavily on iso8601 for validation | 17:46 |
| dhellmann | markwash: are we going to just cap to 0.1.4 until they get their releases in order? | 17:46 |
| markwash | dhellmann: I think the theory is that 0.1.8 was just released and is good. . I assume its *just* the unicode fix for py33 | 17:47 |
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| markwash | I have not checked TBH | 17:47 |
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| dhellmann | ok, I haven't checked for a new release, but that requirements spec is getting a little silly :-) | 17:48 |
| markwash | yeah, I don't know the history of what was wrong with 0.1.5 and 0.1.6 | 17:48 |
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| dhellmann | various permutations of untestedness, afaict | 17:49 |
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| dhellmann | I was also going to suggest offering to help them stackforge that lib, if we need it | 17:49 |
| markwash | hmm. . . yeah. . small as it is, that lib is super important | 17:50 |
| dhellmann | markwash: like it would be useful for integration with oslo | 17:50 |
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| dims | markwash, there were 2 bugs in iso8601 introduced in 0.1.5 and it took 2 releases over a weekend to get them fixed | 17:51 |
| dims | markwash, 2 bugs what showed up from our test harness | 17:52 |
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| markwash | haha | 17:52 |
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| markwash | I suppose there are always more bugs | 17:52 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: i was able to come up with a workaround for the live tests | 18:01 |
| bknudson | dstanek: what's the trick? | 18:01 |
| dstanek | bknudson: i put them in a keystone/tests/system with test_ names and filter them out | 18:02 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: then you can still manually run them | 18:02 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: working on a patch now | 18:02 |
| bknudson | dstanek: that's what we want is to be able to manually run them. | 18:02 |
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| timello | I see that some projects don't have the X-Topics header when the emails get sent to the mailing list... what's the rule for that? I mean, why [Heat] emails, for instance, doesn't have it? | 18:29 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, https://fedorahosted.org/certmonger/ is the right tool, and drop the PKI setup OpenSSL specific code from Keystone etc | 19:00 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ++ | 19:00 |
| bknudson | ayoung: and auth_token, too? | 19:01 |
| ayoung | bknudson, no, | 19:01 |
| ayoung | bknudson, auth_token needs to fetch other peoples certs, different use case | 19:01 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, auth_token cert management does need some rethinking. I would like to be able to redo the token format so that it says what cert signed it without running the CMS application to process the token itself. And thne auth_token should be able to hold multiple certs, and refresht etc | 19:03 |
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| ayoung | nkinder, regarding the smart proxy I mentioned yesterday: it would be a daemon that listened on AMQP for "VM created events" from Nova and then make a call into FreeIPA to create the approprate Host entries | 19:04 |
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| gyee | ayoung, ++ on certmaster | 19:05 |
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| gyee | ayoung, is there a debian package | 19:06 |
| ayoung | gyee, yeah, seems like the right tool to abstract out cert management without putting too much infrastructure in place | 19:06 |
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| ayoung | gyee, fairly certain that there is. Let me confirm again | 19:06 |
| gyee | I am going to play around with it | 19:06 |
| ayoung | gyee, it is pretty simplistic. No revocations. | 19:07 |
| ayoung | XML RPC | 19:07 |
| ayoung | gyee, http://packages.debian.org/experimental/python/certmaster | 19:07 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: gyee: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/certmaster.git/tree/LICENSE | 19:08 |
| ayoung | gyee, certmonger knows how to talk to Dogtag and Certmaster. That would be the project to look at for integration with a 3rd party CA | 19:08 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, any problem with using a GPL V2 Devstack component? | 19:09 |
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| gyee | dolphm, I usually forward the whole thing to the lawyers :) | 19:09 |
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| devananda | general API / RESTful query string question for folks -- is there a good way to expose "get a list of resources where this property IS NULL" or "IS NOT NULL" ? Eg, is this OK: GET /foo?property=notnull | 19:10 |
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| arosen2 | nachi1: ping | 19:10 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: twitter won't let me get past the first step without following 5 people, and it's offering me kardashians - this is your fault | 19:11 |
| dolphm | ayoung: from the mailing list "TL;DR - don't link to GPL code." | 19:11 |
| gyee | ayoung, I just thinking outloud here as I haven't spend much time reading the KDS code, would it be better to have a PKI system instead? | 19:11 |
| dolphm | but it's a really long thread | 19:11 |
| dstanek | what does keystone.tests._test_import_auth_token actually test? | 19:11 |
| dolphm | dstanek: how'd you find that :P | 19:12 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24701/ | 19:13 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: just made a patch for the live test issue from this morning | 19:13 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, not my fault. blame the twitterheads that made me do it last summit. | 19:14 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: hit skip | 19:14 |
| gyee | heh | 19:14 |
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| jamielennox | dolphm: i think they removed that | 19:14 |
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| jamielennox | ok, but i can just go back to twitter.com and i'm still logged in | 19:15 |
| jamielennox | great design there | 19:15 |
| ayoung | https://twitter.com/admiyoung https://twitter.com/jaypipes https://twitter.com/tcarrez https://twitter.com/joesavak https://twitter.com/bradtopol https://twitter.com/dolphm | 19:16 |
| xavioux | Looking for Havana working neutron.conf, anyone please? | 19:16 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, you can use whatever twitter client you like, including several opensource ones as I recall | 19:16 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, (me) -> https://twitter.com/mdrnstm | 19:17 |
| morganfainberg | not that i say anything interesting :P | 19:17 |
| dstanek | ayoung: i'm https://twitter.com/dstanek :-) | 19:17 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: don't listen to ayoung, write your own client | 19:17 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm ++, jamielennox doooo eeeet | 19:17 |
| ayoung | real men just use curl for a twitter client | 19:18 |
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| nkinder | ayoung: Will that trigger creation of DNS records as well? | 19:19 |
| ayoung | nkinder, it will if you want it to. I want it to. | 19:19 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i was using perl mechanised… then i realized it was perl. | 19:19 |
| ayoung | nkinder, you would probably create with a default ip address and let the client update when enrolling | 19:20 |
| nkinder | ayoung: yeah, it would be nice if it's creating SSHFP records too. | 19:20 |
| ayoung | nkinder, big thinkg is that you need a OTP. I was starting to think that we could use the hash of the Keystone token for that | 19:20 |
| dstanek | dolphm: it doesn't work anymore - is it worth fixing? | 19:21 |
| ayoung | since we want to encrypt the notification anyway | 19:21 |
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| jamielennox | gyee: curl http://twitter.com > /dev/null | 19:21 |
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| gyee | ha | 19:21 |
| dolphm | dstanek: probably not :( | 19:22 |
| ayoung | If only twitter supported some sort of identity federation protocol... | 19:22 |
| dolphm | dstanek: it's the same issue with importing auth_token and s3_token from keystone.middleware | 19:22 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, that test was probably there from when we moved auth_token out of Keystone and into the client. | 19:23 |
| dstanek | dolphm: http://paste.openstack.org/show/49053/ | 19:23 |
| dstanek | it looks like it just checks to see if an import happened | 19:24 |
| dolphm | dstanek: exactly | 19:24 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: it's basically testing for that backtrace | 19:25 |
| dolphm | and at one point, it worked | 19:25 |
| ayoung | dstanek, are you familiar with the history of auth_token? | 19:25 |
| dstanek | ayoung: not at all | 19:25 |
| ayoung | dstanek, it was a single file that people were pulling and sticking into their projects. I broke that | 19:25 |
| ayoung | when I did pki tokens, I put in a dependency on external files for CMS checking etc. | 19:25 |
| ayoung | Now they need two files. | 19:26 |
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| ayoung | Needless to say, people were not happy. | 19:26 |
| ayoung | I didn't blame them, but I thought that copying around a file like that somewhat neanderthalic | 19:26 |
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| ayoung | anyway, we decided to put the auth_token middleware in the client. In doing so, we wanted to make sure that people could still refer to it based on its old name, keystone.middleware.auth+_token as opposed to keystoneclient... | 19:27 |
| dstanek | ayoung: thx...seems like i want to keep that test then. any reason not to rename it to remove the leading _? | 19:29 |
| dolphm | dstanek: yes | 19:29 |
| dolphm | dstanek: if you don't run it in isolation, it'll pass because it's not testing anything | 19:29 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: i'll leave it as it then so i can move forward, but right now it's not testing anything anyway :) | 19:30 |
| dolphm | actually, it might not be testing anything anyway... now that we've moved to keystone.tests (with __init__.py) | 19:30 |
| dolphm | it's no longer runnable in isolation | 19:30 |
| dolphm | gettext is being setup on import, keystone.config is executing | 19:31 |
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| dolphm | jamielennox: wow, they really did remove the skip button (just signed up for a new account to check it out) | 19:33 |
| jamielennox | dolphm: and checkout the list they give you to select 5 people... | 19:34 |
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| dolphm | jamielennox: workaround- close the browser window, confirm your account, and you're done | 19:34 |
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| jamielennox | dolphm: yea, did that | 19:35 |
| jamielennox | https://twitter.com/jamielennox_ :( | 19:40 |
| stevemar | underscore ftw! | 19:40 |
| dolphm | lol | 19:40 |
| stevemar | jamielennox, time to start twitterizing | 19:41 |
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| xavioux | Question: is rabbitmq traffic encrypted in Havana? | 19:41 |
| ayoung | dstanek, I think it is safe to remove it | 19:41 |
| jamielennox | yea someone stole my name | 19:41 |
| jamielennox | it's what you get joining social sites 5 years later than everyone else | 19:42 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: 7 | 19:43 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, I pretty much use it for OpenStack stuff only | 19:44 |
| stevemar | dolphm, wow, i had no idea it's been that long | 19:44 |
| dolphm | it's probably only been huge for 5 years | 19:45 |
| stevemar | dolphm: hehe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter#Content - 40% "pointless babble" | 19:46 |
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| dolphm | and 60% marketers talking to marketers about marketing | 19:46 |
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| xavioux | Lots of pointless babble here in the past half hour lol | 19:56 |
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| jamielennox | xavioux: lol, true | 20:00 |
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| nkinder | ayoung: are the contents of a keystone token described in detail somewhere? | 20:23 |
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| jamielennox | nkinder: for v3: https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md#tokens | 20:31 |
| jamielennox | there is a similar one for v2 | 20:31 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: Thanks! v3 is fine for my needs. | 20:31 |
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| dstanek | jamielennox: got it thx! | 20:33 |
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| jamielennox | now that keystone is using testr, is there a solution for ipdb, or at least printing the full logger output on failures? | 21:37 |
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| clarkb | in nova and other projects the logging fixture is used to capture all logging generated by each test, this is then printed out on failure | 21:48 |
| clarkb | for pdb, run_tests.sh has been updated to run test(s) under testtools.run which doesn't mess with stdout and stdin | 21:48 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: ping | 21:49 |
| dolphm | dstanek: pong | 21:49 |
| dstanek | dolphm: can you take a quick look at these tests - http://paste.openstack.org/show/49075/ | 21:49 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: is that what you were envisioning? | 21:49 |
| dolphm | dstanek: that looks badass | 21:52 |
| dolphm | FALSOM -> FOLSOM | 21:52 |
| dolphm | dstanek: are you happy with that? | 21:52 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: :-P i spelled it right most of the time | 21:52 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: yeah, i think it looks great | 21:52 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: taking the kids to the library, but i'll get it implemented when i get back | 21:53 |
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| reed | so, if you look at slide 4 you'll see how massively huge the structure is https://www.dropbox.com/s/at4wj81f84jfaqh/May%202013%20Marketing%20Meeting.pptx | 22:03 |
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| devananda | reed: should i assume additive transit time between marriot, design, and expo all? eg, ~15 minutes from end to end? | 22:04 |
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| reed | devananda, I would not assume that | 22:04 |
| devananda | k | 22:05 |
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| reed | although... let me check the maps more carefully | 22:05 |
| reed | devananda, did you look at the presentation? | 22:05 |
| reed | dropbox converts it to a pdf | 22:05 |
| devananda | looking now, ya | 22:05 |
| reed | slide 6 is the Design summit | 22:06 |
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| reed | devananda, I checked the map and from what I understand the widest distance is between the Summit and the Marriot | 22:09 |
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| reed | see that curve shape in the far right of the structure in slide 4? that I think is where the Summit will be | 22:09 |
| devananda | reed: got it. thanks! | 22:10 |
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| ttx | exit | 22:18 |
| ttx | oops | 22:18 |
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| dansmith | ttx: you can check out, but you can never leave. | 22:19 |
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| notmyname | ttx: in summits past, there was a scheduling link that showed the bar chart for each topic. do we have that for this time? | 22:39 |
| notmyname | ttx: ie the thing showing the proposed/available/scheduled slots for each track | 22:39 |
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| jamielennox | clarkb: sorry for missing you earlier, do use mean nova's use of fixtures.FakeLogger() ? i can see that used in 3 places (just with a grep) and none of them would seem in the common path | 23:15 |
| jamielennox | from what i can tell keystone hasn't done anything with its logging with the switch to testr | 23:15 |
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| clarkb | jamielennox: yes, there should be one place it is used in tests.py | 23:16 |
| * clarkb looks | 23:16 | |
| jamielennox | clarkb: ah, i grepped tests/ in nova not test.py | 23:16 |
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| clarkb | jamielennox: oh the other instances of it are because boto logging is lazy loaded? something like that. Where the global FakeLogger isn't sufficient | 23:18 |
| jamielennox | ok so it is in common path, i'll see if that helps in keystone | 23:18 |
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| jamielennox | clarkb: i take it the argument to FakeLogger is similar to picking a namespace for logging? | 23:20 |
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| clarkb | jamielennox: yeah, same thing. Without an arg it is supposed to catch everything, but boto is special | 23:21 |
| jamielennox | as there is a FakeLogger in oslo's test.py which we don't use, but it's set to 'openstack.common' only | 23:21 |
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