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| anteaya | insanidade: I personally don't use an IDE for openstack development | 00:16 |
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| anteaya | I find them large and finicky | 00:16 |
| anteaya | I tend to just use the shell | 00:16 |
| anteaya | based on what I hear from others, I am working with the belief that this is a popular option | 00:17 |
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| morganfainberg | anteaya, insanidade, i found that for me PyCharm has a good workflow. but i might be in the minority | 00:36 |
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| anteaya | morganfainberg: now that you mention it, I think I have heard of PyCharm mentioned by a few others | 00:54 |
| morganfainberg | anteaya, it saves me a lot of typos :P | 00:54 |
| morganfainberg | anteaya, and a lot easier to hunt down references to methods/functions imo | 00:55 |
| morganfainberg | but again, i might just be odd. | 00:55 |
| anteaya | there is that benefit of ide's | 00:55 |
| anteaya | birds of a feather | 00:55 |
| morganfainberg | :) | 00:55 |
| anteaya | I just can't be bothered learning them | 00:55 |
| morganfainberg | anteaya, my boss couldn't use pycharm until he found the vim-functionality plugin | 00:56 |
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| morganfainberg | anteaya, but now he uses it like crazy | 00:56 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: ping | 00:56 |
| anteaya | if I was ever forced to use an ide I would need the vim plugin | 00:56 |
| morganfainberg | i should be careful what i say, he's in this channel :P | 00:56 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 00:56 |
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| anteaya | everything is logged | 00:56 |
| anteaya | there are no secrets | 00:56 |
| morganfainberg | cburgess, tell anteaya how awesome the vim plugin is :P | 00:56 |
| morganfainberg | >.> | 00:57 |
| anteaya | hey cburgess | 00:57 |
| cburgess | It is awesome. | 00:57 |
| cburgess | I love it. | 00:57 |
| jamielennox | i'll admit to having never tried the pycharm vim plugin - but every other vim plugin i've tried just fails somewhere i find crucial | 00:57 |
| cburgess | I couldn't give up vi until I had something that had a proper line editor. | 00:57 |
| cburgess | Its got a few rough edges but it works well enough for me. | 00:58 |
| jamielennox | there is a plugin for eclipse etc, but i really use the Ctrl+V block select which can't override paste | 00:58 |
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| jamielennox | just little things like that, plus a couple of vim plugins | 00:58 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, yeah. | 00:58 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i just got used to not using a vim plugin -- so i don't need it now. but in the past i'd be in the same boat | 00:59 |
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| jamielennox | morganfainberg: i've gotten so used to certain vim keystrokes - i don't particularly want to untrain most of them | 01:00 |
| jamielennox | besides, there are so many plugins for vim, you can make it into an IDE | 01:00 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, are we headed towards a big refactor on how the keystoneclient works (the library v3 client that is)? i have a side project i want to work on that involves integrating keystone, policy, etc, and i don't want to start yet if something like that is on the near-termish horizon | 01:01 |
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| morganfainberg | s/big/even moderate sized | 01:01 |
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| jamielennox | i want to change the communication aspect of it, all the managers on the client (users, projects etc) won't get touched | 01:01 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, ok cool. | 01:02 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i want to see if i can drop keystone as a fully auth mechanism option into saltstack. e.g. allow salt to be gated on actions on VMs in a cloud based upon keystone data :) | 01:02 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, but if a refactor that would touch some of the managers / etc would be happening, i didn't want to start yet. | 01:03 |
| jamielennox | wouldn't that be more likely a nova request? | 01:03 |
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| jamielennox | what is going to be in keystone that you would have to wait for? | 01:03 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, well, i want to leverage policy in keystone | 01:03 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, and all user stuff. | 01:04 |
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| jamielennox | morganfainberg: i know a bit of how salt works, but never used it - would you be better waiting for keystone to do notifications then pull events off the bus into salt? | 01:05 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, perhaps. will bounce the idea more in depth when i am starting work on it | 01:05 |
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| anteaya | cburgess: sorry was testing something | 01:06 |
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| anteaya | cburgess: glad to hear of your enthusiasm for the vim plugin | 01:07 |
| anteaya | here's to good tools | 01:07 |
| cburgess | Yeah I like the JetBrains stuff. I would like to check our their bug tracker YouTrack at some point. | 01:07 |
| cburgess | Its about the only java based stuff I actually like. | 01:08 |
| morganfainberg | anteaya, i think there is an openstack license for pycharm that is floating around. remember seeing something about it on the mailing list | 01:08 |
| morganfainberg | anteaya, but they ahve a good demo if you ever wanted to try it out. | 01:09 |
| cburgess | I think morganfainberg is correct. At one point there was a demo license or something that could be used for pure upstream work free of charge. | 01:09 |
| anteaya | cburgess: I don't know YouTrack - if you have time for a test run, I would be interested in hearing your thoughts | 01:09 |
| anteaya | yes, that was my only association with pycharm | 01:09 |
| anteaya | the discussion of the license | 01:10 |
| cburgess | anteaya: Its on my list to look at during my copious free time. We use JIRA today and its ok but has some limits we hit from time to time. | 01:10 |
| anteaya | I'll be honest, I feel like I'm drowning | 01:10 |
| anteaya | so I think my time is best spent figuring out the code, as much as I can | 01:10 |
| anteaya | once I get at least a mental picture, I can work on my tool space | 01:10 |
| anteaya | I tend to try to be agnostic | 01:11 |
| cburgess | I used to do everything from the command line with vi and grep. But the code is no dense and has so much abstraction that having a tool that can help me quickly follow became critical. | 01:11 |
| anteaya | I learned vim since it comes on all the servers by default | 01:11 |
| cburgess | I used VIM for probably 10 years for everything. | 01:11 |
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| anteaya | cburgess: yeah, I hear that - there are things on my list that I'm sure I'm never going to see again | 01:11 |
| anteaya | cburgess: I have a few years to go then | 01:12 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, uhm. question | 03:03 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox if you're here | 03:04 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, if a user has a default_project_id… should it automatically scope the user to that project on token issuance? | 03:04 |
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| morganfainberg | if no other project is specified? | 03:04 |
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| morganfainberg | … wow | 03:11 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg:, a user shouldn't have a default_project_id - that's a project wide setting | 03:12 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, default_project_id is (in the user_ref) [v3] equivalent to tenantId in v2.0 | 03:13 |
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| jamielennox | sory default_project_id, for some reason i read default_domain_id | 03:13 |
| morganfainberg | yep. | 03:13 |
| morganfainberg | looks like our tests have been broken for a while | 03:13 |
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| morganfainberg | new_user_ref has been setting "project_id" | 03:14 |
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| morganfainberg | and a lot of tests assumed no auto-scoping | 03:14 |
| morganfainberg | phew, this bug keeps generating more and more rabbit holes. | 03:14 |
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| jamielennox | hmm, i don't know how that one works - i can see why they would have a default_project_id | 03:15 |
| morganfainberg | yep. | 03:15 |
| jamielennox | quoting: | 03:16 |
| jamielennox | If neither a project nor a domain is provided for scope, and the authenticating user has a defined default project (the user's default_project_id attribute), then this will be treated as the preferred authorization scope. If there is no default project defined, then a token will be issued without an explicit scope of authorization. | 03:16 |
| morganfainberg | i'm cleaning up the bad mismatch of tenantId vs tenant_id vs default_project_id vs project_id | 03:16 |
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| morganfainberg | and making sure v2.0 calls always return users with tenantId instead of tenant_id or default_project_id or project_id | 03:17 |
| jamielennox | so in the event of having no scope if there is a default_project_id there should be a token scoped to that | 03:17 |
| morganfainberg | and v3 calls always return default_project_id instead of tenantId blah blah (provided it's set that is) | 03:17 |
| morganfainberg | yep | 03:17 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/tests/test_v3.py#L209 | 03:18 |
| jamielennox | i don't know enough of the back ground for some of that | 03:18 |
| morganfainberg | just bit me, see how it sets "project_id" not "default_project_id" | 03:18 |
| morganfainberg | i fixed that, and a bunch of tests all failed because the token was now auto-scoped | 03:18 |
| morganfainberg | :P | 03:18 |
| jamielennox | oh, yep | 03:18 |
| morganfainberg | tests have been making assumptions that shouldn't have been made for a while it looks like | 03:19 |
| jamielennox | so if you set dfeault_project_id does it work | 03:19 |
| jamielennox | is the value accepted | 03:19 |
| morganfainberg | yep, it autoscopes | 03:19 |
| morganfainberg | all the tests were explicitly looking for unscoped tokens, vs. scoped. if an explicit project is defined in the auth_payload (project: { id: <id>}} | 03:20 |
| morganfainberg | it scopes to the right project, even w/ default_project_id set | 03:20 |
| jamielennox | how the hell does this stuff happen? | 03:20 |
| jamielennox | so was project_id being accepted and placed in the 'extra' db field or something | 03:21 |
| morganfainberg | yep. | 03:21 |
| morganfainberg | just wasn't being used for anything | 03:21 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46207/ making default_project_id a real first-order member of the SQL identity backend, and would work if mapped for ldap | 03:22 |
| morganfainberg | and doing a bunch of cleanup on things. | 03:22 |
| morganfainberg | but, it's amazing some of the landmines i've run into | 03:22 |
| morganfainberg | grizzly doesn't normalize the default_project_id for v2/v3 requests | 03:22 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, I was out for the evening...just got back | 03:22 |
| jamielennox | i've been out of touch with this stuff for too long | 03:22 |
| ayoung | don';t have long, as the Mrs is going to be sending me to bed soon....what's up | 03:23 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, hehe well you helped me out. you were quicker on finding that quote on expected behavior faster than i was able to | 03:23 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: i was going to argue your sessions review, it can wait | 03:23 |
| ayoung | I'm not hard and fast on that...just was my response. The code is structured fine | 03:24 |
| ayoung | the name is off | 03:24 |
| ayoung | it isn't really a session | 03:24 |
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| ayoung | but we need better Dependency Resolution...not in the scope of this change | 03:24 |
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| jamielennox | yea, i wasn't following that - i'm not sure how dep resolution is relevant here or what you want it for | 03:25 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, the cleanup, as I see it, is that you are scoping things down...but it is the places where you replace direct parameters with parameters scoped to the session object that caught my eye | 03:25 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, all those deprecated variables in the __init__ function | 03:26 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, why is it just this particular subset of variables that becomes the session? | 03:27 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: i'm not sure we're thinking the same thing - i'm looking to create a communication object rather than a base class | 03:27 |
| jamielennox | i want one object that is responsible for all the http communication in openstack | 03:27 |
| jamielennox | kerberos, x509 everything else | 03:27 |
| jamielennox | i want it to control http sessions and keep-alives | 03:28 |
| ayoung | those are auth methods\ | 03:28 |
| ayoung | ok | 03:28 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: yes and no | 03:28 |
| ayoung | that is kindof the definition of "client" | 03:28 |
| ayoung | nah, disregard the auth method comment ...out of order comment on what you were saying...go on\ | 03:29 |
| jamielennox | ok, ignore kerb, x509 server certs are not auth | 03:29 |
| ayoung | SSL, right | 03:29 |
| jamielennox | and kerb is debatable because the handshake has to happen before you get to do auth | 03:29 |
| jamielennox | and by auth here i mean keystone auth | 03:29 |
| jamielennox | so i want the one entry point (which we control) which all the clients will make use of | 03:30 |
| ayoung | so this is not a request...and the whole code base is a client...so you took something in the middle, and decided on session...but session is the wrong term. | 03:31 |
| ayoung | The question is what is the right term | 03:31 |
| jamielennox | somewhat but http session is the best analogy i can find | 03:31 |
| ayoung | we also have a user agent.... | 03:31 |
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| ayoung | if we were doing sessions, I would agree.... | 03:32 |
| ayoung | I really think you are wriritn *the* agent | 03:32 |
| ayoung | er | 03:32 |
| ayoung | client | 03:32 |
| ayoung | the rest of the values are values that are Keystone specific content | 03:33 |
| ayoung | user_id and such | 03:33 |
| ayoung | the stuff in session is http specific only, right? | 03:33 |
| jamielennox | yes | 03:33 |
| jamielennox | that was my split. The base client object was going to be nothing more than a couple of helper functions and speciying what endpoint type to use | 03:34 |
| jamielennox | then a bunch of managers that belong to the clien t | 03:34 |
| ayoung | Names are important. Your code is structured correctly. I think you are looking for a new term because the old term has been abused | 03:35 |
| jamielennox | my 'session' though doesn't have any client informatoin | 03:35 |
| jamielennox | its a channel | 03:35 |
| ayoung | its an http manager | 03:35 |
| jamielennox | a way of using an auth_plugin to talk to something | 03:35 |
| ayoung | mediator? not quite... | 03:36 |
| jamielennox | better, but not right | 03:36 |
| ayoung | proxy...adapter...neither of those fit | 03:36 |
| ayoung | bridge. | 03:36 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i'm going to agree with ayoung here. A session would imply session in the sense of browser…or SQL connection…etc | 03:36 |
| ayoung | THis is Bridge design pattern | 03:36 |
| jamielennox | this was alessio's HTTPClient, but that was just way to abused | 03:36 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, it is really the right term...but, as you say, abused. Also, it sounds like the client should be the outermost object, and this is more internal | 03:37 |
| jamielennox | it was somewhat based around Requests has a HttpSession object which you issue requests through - it will recreate a connection if there is not one established | 03:38 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: it's this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43829/ | 03:38 |
| ayoung | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_Controller_pattern | 03:38 |
| ayoung | Controller is probably the best my addled wits are going to come up with tonight | 03:38 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: it's the reverse of that | 03:39 |
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| ayoung | Mediator? | 03:39 |
| ayoung | Servant...I'm looking here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_pattern_%28computer_science%29 | 03:39 |
| jamielennox | connector, adapter | 03:40 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, adapter | 03:40 |
| jamielennox | maybe ClientAdapter | 03:40 |
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| jamielennox | or HTTPAdapter | 03:40 |
| ayoung | Adapter goes from one abstraction to another... | 03:40 |
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| ayoung | typically an adapter exposes a well known interface | 03:41 |
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| morganfainberg | this could be an adapter | 03:41 |
| morganfainberg | the V2/v3 properties -> raw-httpclient | 03:42 |
| morganfainberg | ? | 03:42 |
| morganfainberg | but goign by the design patterns, it does sound like a mediator | 03:42 |
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| ayoung | not quite....Adapter or Proxy...but translator.... | 03:43 |
| ayoung | It is not doing marshalling, but it is part of a remote call.. | 03:43 |
| jamielennox | no, it's just a wrapper around doing HTTP calls | 03:43 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, facade? | 03:43 |
| ayoung | Nope | 03:43 |
| ayoung | the Client is the facade | 03:43 |
| morganfainberg | right. | 03:43 |
| jamielennox | this whole project is a facade | 03:44 |
| ayoung | It is a remote proxy | 03:44 |
| ayoung | the Keystone client is a remote proxy | 03:44 |
| jamielennox | no because client is always local | 03:45 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, the client is the local code for talking to the remote service | 03:45 |
| ayoung | def proxy | 03:45 |
| jamielennox | remote proxy is a remote concept | 03:45 |
| ayoung | thies piece here, though, still feels like a part of the bridge design pattern.... | 03:45 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, yes, but a proxy is the interface to something else. in a remtoe proxy, it is the local code that lets you treat a remote object as if it were local | 03:46 |
| jamielennox | messenger? | 03:47 |
| ayoung | OK..I need sleep....I suspect that the problem we are having with the thing currently named session is that we are looking at it stand alone, and it will be part of a large pattern. | 03:47 |
| ayoung | What does it do....what is its purpose? | 03:48 |
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| jamielennox | it stashes your http connection parameters so they can be reused in requests | 03:49 |
| ayoung | it represents all HTTP calls to be made...is it a protocol object? Strategy pattern, where we could swap out one for the other? | 03:49 |
| ayoung | is it really a request factory? | 03:50 |
| jamielennox | no, it wants to be more persistent so that we can do long lived connection | 03:50 |
| jamielennox | s | 03:50 |
| jamielennox | and it will have a auth_plugin attached to it so that it can do authenticated requests | 03:51 |
| ayoung | abstract factory. the concrete objects are the requests: post, get ,etc? | 03:51 |
| ayoung | this thing stays around to maintain the common state | 03:51 |
| jamielennox | they aren't objects, they are methods | 03:51 |
| jamielennox | maybe we just call the thing requestor | 03:52 |
| ayoung | I'm going to sleep on it. | 03:52 |
| jamielennox | no worries, talk to you later | 03:52 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i swear i'm going to get to reviewing your changesets soon | 03:55 |
| morganfainberg | just trying to kill this RC1 bug | 03:55 |
| morganfainberg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46207/ | 03:55 |
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| jamielennox | why would you change get_project_users to get_project_user_ids? | 03:57 |
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| morganfainberg | you still need to get associated users, but it prevents the need for assignment to call identity | 03:57 |
| morganfainberg | the controller can do that work | 03:58 |
| morganfainberg | I should probably put that in the commit message. i think you're the 2nd or third person to ask me that | 03:58 |
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| morganfainberg | and less cross chatter means it's easier to normalize the tenantId, default_project_id, etc since the controller has that logic | 03:58 |
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| jamielennox | no that's ok, if we are seperating assignments and users we should do it properly | 03:59 |
| morganfainberg | most of the cases get_project_users was called, you just used a list comprehension to extract the user_ids | 03:59 |
| jamielennox | also it was another N+1 lookup anyway | 04:00 |
| morganfainberg | yep. | 04:00 |
| jamielennox | i would kind of like to attack the sql backend | 04:00 |
| morganfainberg | in icehouse i know i'm going to be really looking hard at the performance implications. | 04:00 |
| morganfainberg | nice. | 04:01 |
| morganfainberg | it could use some restructuring | 04:01 |
| ayoung | it needs a chainsaw | 04:01 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, yes. yes it does | 04:01 |
| ayoung | I think we can cut the ties between assignments and identity | 04:01 |
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| jamielennox | i think you should split the bug fixes | 04:01 |
| ayoung | just been doing it in small pieces | 04:01 |
| jamielennox | because for example this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46207/7/etc/keystone.conf.sample is really confusing | 04:02 |
| ayoung | I want get_project_users to go away | 04:02 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, the domain bug fix is a side effect of repurposing businessCategory | 04:02 |
| ayoung | all we are going to have in a federated case is the user_id | 04:02 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i could split it out to a 3 or 4 line fix i guess. | 04:02 |
| jamielennox | no i kind of get it, but looking at that file we have renamed a domain_id attribute to a default_project_id attribute | 04:02 |
| jamielennox | my draft comment says - what? | 04:03 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i kind of like the idea of making the internal "id" just another federated service (effectively) that talks something we can consume | 04:03 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, really silo/hard split that (perhaps keystone-id process) that can run multiples if needed. | 04:04 |
| jamielennox | +1, i also wonder if that means the same process could be done to the other managers... | 04:04 |
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| jamielennox | it's probably impracticle but seperation wise it should be able to be done | 04:05 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, it should be doable, even today… just a clever use of paste-files | 04:05 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, but i think we should approach that kind of change carefully. id makes a lot of sense if we hard push towards federated id across the board | 04:06 |
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| jamielennox | right, it's just an interesting concepts | 04:06 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, though if done right we could make a bridge pattern (i think this is the right one) that can talk direct if the manager is local, or via <protocol> if it's not | 04:07 |
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| morganfainberg | enforce all managers should work like that. | 04:07 |
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| jamielennox | morganfainberg: look at the nova object model - i started something like that for keystone a little while ago | 04:08 |
| jamielennox | decided against it until that landed in oslo | 04:08 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i'm familiar with it. did a some conversations w/ comstud and dansmith about it earlier on in havana | 04:08 |
| jamielennox | it has a bit of overhead that we don't need currently but is the perfect fit for extracting things like that | 04:08 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, it is a nice concept. esp. if it gets into oslo | 04:09 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i would almost argue that it didn't go quite far enough (yet) and the dehydration/rehydration should be pluggable. | 04:10 |
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| morganfainberg | e.g. want to use protobuf, use protobuf, want to use <blah cool new thing> use <blah cool new thing> | 04:10 |
| morganfainberg | but that is another argument for another time ;) | 04:10 |
| jamielennox | i don't think that would matter for this stuff, it would be interesting to see if you could use that to create your public apis though | 04:11 |
| morganfainberg | yep. | 04:11 |
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| morganfainberg | oh i need to think about what i'm going to say about keystone at a local meetup | 04:12 |
| morganfainberg | :P | 04:12 |
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| jamielennox | this whole thing needs to be cleaned up, the normalize_default_project_ids shouldn't be needed all over the place | 04:12 |
| jamielennox | and by this whole thing i don't mean your patch | 04:12 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, yeah. | 04:12 |
| morganfainberg | i totally agree | 04:12 |
| jamielennox | i think what we don't do and need to start thinking about is internal apis | 04:13 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i would agree about that a lot | 04:13 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34161/ I just +2ed. I think all questions were handled. I don't know about proxies, but I don't think it is a regression wrt those | 04:13 |
| jamielennox | if we allow someone to plugin their own assignment backend, what does that look like | 04:13 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, talk about the LDAP /SQL split | 04:13 |
| ayoung | that is what people care about | 04:14 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, that is on the list. this is also the first "keystone" talk they'll have had | 04:14 |
| morganfainberg | so some intro to keystone has been asked for as well | 04:14 |
| jamielennox | yea, i had some people asking me about that here too | 04:14 |
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| ayoung | give the historical perspective...at first, nova had a userid/password... | 04:14 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i'll look over that one (the review) before i head out. | 04:14 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, http://adam.younglogic.com/2013/07/a-vision-for-keystone/ | 04:16 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ah, thanks for the reminder on that post. (it really is good btw) | 04:16 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, :) | 04:16 |
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| ayoung | thanks | 04:16 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, if we support ABC and start formalizing the internal apis, i think that could be very good. | 04:17 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, but that also comes with that concept of making managers possible to be split (again, id being the first one imo) | 04:18 |
| jamielennox | i don't think it's ready. That api changes every week | 04:18 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, maybe slate that as a discussion to happen J-timeline | 04:19 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i am very pleased with the general direction H has gone, and i think I will be continued improvement | 04:19 |
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| morganfainberg | heck, i want to run Havana keystone today in my production environments, there are a lot of wins it brings to the table | 04:20 |
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| morganfainberg | ugh. i am tired. missed a couple typos in the amends of that review. | 04:40 |
| * morganfainberg uploads 2 useless patchsets *sigh* | 04:40 | |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, it doesn't look like a regression (agree with ayoung on this) wrt the proxies | 04:41 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, do you feel that is a real concern at all? i know you commented | 04:41 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, but i just don't see it having solid support with httplib either. | 04:41 |
| jamielennox | no i don't think proxy handling is an issue here | 04:41 |
| morganfainberg | ok. everything else looks good then | 04:42 |
| jamielennox | i was just replying to the other commentor | 04:42 |
| morganfainberg | yeah. | 04:42 |
| morganfainberg | pressed go | 04:42 |
| morganfainberg | it looks good | 04:42 |
| morganfainberg | and you covered everything as far as i can tell. | 04:42 |
| jamielennox | i'll admit, that's a scary one to let into the wild - if it breaks a lot of people will tell us | 04:43 |
| morganfainberg | yep. | 04:43 |
| morganfainberg | hopefully it will break a minimal number … at best | 04:43 |
| jamielennox | there is no sample config file to update or anything either | 04:44 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, hehe. | 04:44 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, any input on my normalize_default_things_Everywhere patch will be appreciated, that has been quite the rabbithole to dive into. | 04:45 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i don't want to miss anything. | 04:45 |
| jamielennox | alright, i started it but it was still fairly in flux | 04:45 |
| morganfainberg | then i can go back and make a grizzly fix that just does in-line replacement magic. | 04:45 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, yeah i'm done with uploading patchsets. i hope granade is happy with this one. | 04:46 |
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| morganfainberg | tomorrow will be the earliest anything else will be uploaded for it | 04:46 |
| morganfainberg | and i can address any comments if you have them. | 04:46 |
| jamielennox | why can't normalize_default_project_id be done within get_user? | 04:47 |
| morganfainberg | you mean in the identity back end? | 04:48 |
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| morganfainberg | erm manager? | 04:48 |
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| jamielennox | so it looks like normalize_default_project_id takes removes takes the default_project_id and sets it to tenantId if set | 04:50 |
| morganfainberg | on the V2Controller | 04:50 |
| jamielennox | ah | 04:50 |
| morganfainberg | v2 api spec says default project is "tenantId" | 04:50 |
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| morganfainberg | v3 is default_project_id | 04:51 |
| jamielennox | why not just pick one and stick with it until representation? | 04:51 |
| morganfainberg | this patchset normalizes everything except what is passed (potentially) out to the use via a controller to default_project_id | 04:52 |
| morganfainberg | in SQL identity backend, that is now a column | 04:52 |
| morganfainberg | the normalize_default_project_id calls are (should be) used to get the "right" version to the right version controller | 04:52 |
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| jamielennox | ok, so it is just doing it in the representation part anyway | 04:53 |
| morganfainberg | yep. | 04:53 |
| morganfainberg | that was what dolph requested, moving the normalize to the controller | 04:54 |
| morganfainberg | vs. the manager being smart | 04:54 |
| jamielennox | yea, no that's right | 04:54 |
| jamielennox | i'm in favour of a views layer myself but that was shot down a while ago | 04:54 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i think that would make sense in the longer term | 04:55 |
| jamielennox | yea, wasn't the most important thing at the time | 04:55 |
| morganfainberg | but i think we have other more pressing things before we should look at mucking with that data | 04:55 |
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| morganfainberg | at the presentation moment | 04:55 |
| morganfainberg | i see that being a solid possibility in the same-ish timeline as more normalize/formalized internal apis | 04:56 |
| morganfainberg | but that is just my uneducated pull-it-out-of-thin-air guess | 04:56 |
| morganfainberg | ;) | 04:56 |
| jamielennox | is it reasonable to add a user to the project if they update the default_project_id? | 04:57 |
| morganfainberg | i think that was a different patchset for v3 | 04:57 |
| jamielennox | i would have thought you would do a add user to project and then set the default | 04:57 |
| morganfainberg | that behavior was in v2.0 | 04:58 |
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| morganfainberg | but i didn't want to add that behavior here. | 04:58 |
| morganfainberg | since it already didn't happen | 04:58 |
| jamielennox | so in v2 we just add the user to the project | 04:58 |
| morganfainberg | and remove them from the old default tenant | 04:59 |
| jamielennox | why remove them? | 04:59 |
| morganfainberg | that was the behavior | 04:59 |
| morganfainberg | i don't ask questions in that sense. | 04:59 |
| jamielennox | their is some weird things in this code | 05:00 |
| morganfainberg | yeah. | 05:00 |
| morganfainberg | actually, i think i need to fix update_default_tenant | 05:00 |
| morganfainberg | to not remove them | 05:00 |
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| morganfainberg | but an update if it included tenantId and it changed did remove them | 05:00 |
| morganfainberg | i don't know. | 05:00 |
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| jamielennox | is there a test there that check's scoping behaviour with default_project_id ? | 05:04 |
| morganfainberg | look for tests with "default_project_id" in the name | 05:05 |
| jamielennox | there is the 2 in test_v3_identity | 05:05 |
| morganfainberg | there are a couple | 05:05 |
| morganfainberg | test_v3_auth | 05:05 |
| morganfainberg | i think is where those are hiding | 05:05 |
| jamielennox | there are a couple in v3/test_users.py but that is testing user creation | 05:08 |
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| morganfainberg | right. sec. | 05:08 |
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| morganfainberg | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/tests/test_v3_auth.py#n930 | 05:09 |
| jamielennox | ugh, i'm an idiot | 05:10 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, nah. they are just hiding. | 05:10 |
| jamielennox | i was grepping keystoneclient :( | 05:10 |
| morganfainberg | lol | 05:10 |
| morganfainberg | i swear i've never done that before | 05:10 |
| morganfainberg | >.> | 05:10 |
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| jamielennox | the test code looks nothing alike - i think i need a coffee | 05:11 |
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| jamielennox | user_list = list(user_table.select().execute()) | 05:15 |
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| jamielennox | is the list done on purpose? that could bring a lot of users into memory | 05:15 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, hrm. you know i was copying another example one | 05:16 |
| morganfainberg | i'll need to see if that was to avoid cross-sessions | 05:16 |
| morganfainberg | or if that was just because my example was doing similar work | 05:16 |
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| jamielennox | also you think it's a problem to reuse businessCategory for a project_id when it used to be the default domain? | 05:20 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, used to be user_domain, but that has been stripped out. the default is to also ignore it. | 05:22 |
| morganfainberg | config wise | 05:22 |
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| morganfainberg | i don't know. hard to tell. but there just isn't a good mapping for default_project_id | 05:23 |
| morganfainberg | short of disabling that functionality in ldap... | 05:23 |
| morganfainberg | (not a bad idea really) | 05:23 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, any thoughts on disable or a different mapping in the inetorgperson ldap object class? | 05:23 |
| jamielennox | right, but thinking of the upgrade path where it was once configured and is not updated with the upgrade it would pull in the domain | 05:23 |
| jamielennox | disable | 05:23 |
| jamielennox | leave the option, but if you're doing ldap you expect to have to figure that stuff out anyway | 05:24 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, the default is it is in the user_ignore_attributes (config) | 05:24 |
| morganfainberg | so it wont be returned unless that attribute is changed. | 05:24 |
| morganfainberg | erm config | 05:24 |
| jamielennox | oh, ok - then leave it i guess | 05:24 |
| jamielennox | i took the change in the config sample to mean the default value had changed | 05:25 |
| morganfainberg | it did. | 05:25 |
| morganfainberg | but the ignore was also changed. | 05:25 |
| jamielennox | actually scrap that, delete it - what's commented out in the config file should be what is defaulted to in the codee | 05:25 |
| morganfainberg | did I not update the sample on that? | 05:25 |
| morganfainberg | yep, need to fix line 298 in the sample config | 05:26 |
| morganfainberg | so it says "default_project_id" not "tenant_id" | 05:26 |
| morganfainberg | it probably would have answered that question if i had updated both | 05:27 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, ok i'm headed out. | 05:43 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, have a good one man | 05:43 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: good night | 05:43 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg and jamielennox are up too late | 05:56 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg maybe, its 3:55pm here | 05:56 |
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| chandankumar | hello | 06:40 |
| chandankumar | i am facing problem while running ./stack.sh | 06:40 |
| chandankumar | i am trying to deploy devstack on fedora 19 | 06:40 |
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| chandankumar | for that i have created localrc file: http://fpaste.org/39282/13790545/ | 06:42 |
| mrunge | chandankumar, what is your problem? | 06:42 |
| chandankumar | the problem is : http://fpaste.org/39283/05458713/ | 06:43 |
| chandankumar | mrunge, i am deploying it in a bare metal | 06:43 |
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| mrunge | chandankumar, fwiw you should NEVER deploy devstack on bare metal; use a disposable machine | 06:47 |
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| chandankumar | mrunge, disposable machine means? | 06:48 |
| chandankumar | vm | 06:48 |
| mrunge | chandankumar, and IMHO you need to specify an IP address | 06:48 |
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| mrunge | vm for example | 06:48 |
| mrunge | because devstack is not removable again | 06:49 |
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| mrunge | chandankumar, as far as I can see, your issue is not related to fedora and should be a general issue | 06:50 |
| chandankumar | mrunge, i am not trying to deploy in vm now | 06:50 |
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| chandankumar | mrunge, i am getting status error :http://paste.fedoraproject.org/39290/79058881/ for some of the instances | 08:02 |
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| mrunge | chandankumar, you might ask nova guys on this | 08:03 |
| chandankumar | mrunge, any channel? | 08:03 |
| mrunge | chandankumar, here! | 08:04 |
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| chandankumar | while booting instances on devstack in fedora 19 , i am getting status error | 08:06 |
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| mrunge | and chandankumar's error is NOSTATE. Any hint from nova guys to debug this? | 08:07 |
| mrunge | what kind of state is NOSTATE? | 08:07 |
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| chandankumar | mrunge, http://paste.fedoraproject.org/39294/90597921 | 08:10 |
| chandankumar | for instance showing no state | 08:10 |
| mrunge | chandankumar, anything in nova log? | 08:10 |
| mrunge | I mean nova logs? | 08:10 |
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| chandankumar | checking | 08:13 |
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| ndipanov | #openstack-requirements | 08:18 |
| ndipanov | darn | 08:18 |
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| ndipanov | is there any requirements core here? | 08:18 |
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| ArKam | Does anyone now if the OS Foundation have a plan or roadmap/milestone where they will replace MySQL with a complete NOSQL database like MongoDB ? | 13:40 |
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| zul | how do you put in a blueprint link in a git message? | 14:46 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: switched from comparing serialized dicts to comparing the deserialized dicts https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46109/ | 14:52 |
| Alex_Gaynor | dolphm: ping | 14:53 |
| dolphm | Alex_Gaynor: pong | 14:54 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | dolphm: So I reproduced my keystoneclient failures in a totally fresh linux VM. Is there some server I need running or something? | 14:54 |
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| dolphm | Alex_Gaynor: can you send me your history prior to running the tests? | 14:59 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | dolphm: as in, the steps to set up the VM? | 14:59 |
| Alex_Gaynor | dolphm: http://bpaste.net/show/QQtTSfCo3RbmfcCDphf0/ is everything I did on the VM | 15:00 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | this is precise32 | 15:00 |
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| dolphm | Alex_Gaynor: i didn't know you could pass multiple -r arguments to pip :) good to know | 15:01 |
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| dolphm | Alex_Gaynor: the only think i noticed that is different from what i normally do is no 'setup.py develop', but i ran your commands exactly... | 15:06 |
| dolphm | Alex_Gaynor: http://pasteraw.com/bb4o8clap249kc3o3gwxy5ulngn1ti9 | 15:06 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | dolphm: hmmm | 15:09 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, probably time to rename test_sql_upgrade to test_sql_migration....I know you wanted to do that in the past | 15:21 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: what makes you say that now? | 15:21 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, Well, we are not going to merge the hughe SQL test suite, which is why we postponed it in the past. And I'd like to keep cleaning up as we go. But, just an indicator that it would be OK to do so now. | 15:22 |
| ayoung | dolphm, Of course, we should probably think in terms of collapsing the migrations at some point, and I am not certain how far back we need to support | 15:23 |
| ayoung | when we collapse, we can remove a slew of the tests, too | 15:24 |
| ayoung | dolphm, by "now" I really mean "in icehouse 1" not before.... | 15:24 |
| dolphm | ayoung: "we are not going to merge the hughe SQL test suite" why not? | 15:24 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: and in terms of migrations, we should support two releases back, so for havana that means folsom->grizzly->havana | 15:25 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, I meant that we don't have an active review for it, and if we were, it would require a lot more work...so in icehouse, we can drop the folsom migrations. | 15:26 |
| dolphm | ayoung: correct | 15:27 |
| dolphm | ayoung: right now we're supporting essex to havana, actually | 15:27 |
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| dolphm | we just dropped diablo support like a week ago :P | 15:28 |
| ayoung | dolphm, what is the tag for folsom? 2012.1.3? | 15:28 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i would assume 2012.2 | 15:28 |
| salv-orlando | neutron folks in the room - bug 1211915 is still unassigned? I thought nati-ueno was looking at it. Anyone has more info? | 15:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1211915 in neutron "Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1211915 | 15:28 |
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| ayoung | OK, so that is all migrations up to 004 | 15:31 |
| Alex_Gaynor | dolphm: any suggestions for how to pursue this further? | 15:31 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, I'm seeing strange behavior with the clients. I have to explicitly passthe auth info on the command line. Setting the envvars fails. Have youe ever seen that? | 15:35 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: service / endpoint or credentials? | 15:44 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, all variables. I thought maybe service token was set, but it isn't | 15:45 |
| ayoung | I'm calling like this | 15:45 |
| ayoung | nova --os_password=$OS_PASSWORD --os-username=$OS_USERNAME --os-auth-url=$OS_AUTH_URL --os-tenant-name=IdM list | 15:46 |
| ayoung | and it succeeds | 15:46 |
| dolphm | ayoung: what does your environment look like and what kind of failure are you seeing? | 15:46 |
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| ayoung | but without the explicit variables set I get | 15:46 |
| ayoung | ERROR: You must provide a username via either --os-username or env[OS_USERNAME] | 15:46 |
| ayoung | same for keystone | 15:46 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, I feel llike there must be some random ENVVAR set that is masking | 15:47 |
| dolphm | ayoung: maybe something is preventing python from reading from the env? | 15:47 |
| ayoung | dolphm, that sounds about right | 15:49 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: python -c "import os; print os.environ" | 15:49 |
| ayoung | >>> print os.environ['OS_USERNAME'] | 15:49 |
| ayoung | gets me a key error from the python console | 15:49 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, I can print HOME, though, so it is maybe something with the current shell | 15:50 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, think I have it | 15:53 |
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| ayoung | the keystone.rc file doesn't do export | 15:53 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, I think I got that from Horizon. | 15:54 |
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| Yathi | Hi, If I am using a new feature in nova code, how do I make sure the import will work fine, while running unit tests ? | 16:26 |
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| dukhlov_ | Hello All | 16:26 |
| Yathi | the unit tests run in a virtual environment, how can I add a new feature to be included and available for the unit tests - any file where I need to add the feature ? | 16:27 |
| dukhlov_ | I have a question about rpc impl_fake improvement form openstack/common n package | 16:28 |
| dukhlov_ | is it correct chat? | 16:28 |
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| odyssey4me | I'd like to attach an instance to a network owned by a different tenant. Is this possible? | 16:37 |
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| sandywalsh | sdake: sdake_, ping? | 18:45 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, nice. | 18:47 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: ? | 18:47 |
| sandywalsh | flaper87: ping? | 18:47 |
| morganfainberg | deserialization | 18:47 |
| dolphm | ah | 18:47 |
| morganfainberg | vs. unicode string compare | 18:47 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, but i think jenkins doesn't like it | 18:48 |
| dolphm | uh oh | 18:48 |
| morganfainberg | looking at it now. | 18:48 |
| morganfainberg | oh boto failure | 18:48 |
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| morganfainberg | haha reverify incoming | 18:48 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: thanks! | 18:48 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, sure thing | 18:49 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46207/ -- if i asked this yesterday, i just don't remember the answer... why change from returning refs to just id's? | 18:50 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, 3 reasons, 1: so assignment doesn't call identity in a way that requires harder inspection into the data returned to do the normalize, 2: most places using get_project_users just extracted ID via list comprehension, 3: there was a TODO to move it to the controller, which makes more sense. | 18:53 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: in that case, can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45584/ ? your change conflicts with that one | 18:54 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, sure. | 18:54 |
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| mrodden | so i allocated a bunch of floating IPs to my project in nova, ran the pool out, then delete them all (assuming they were thrown back into the pool) and then verified they were delete in nova with floating-ip-list | 18:55 |
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| mrodden | but when i tried to get another floating IP from the pool again it still tells me the pool is out of IPs | 18:55 |
| mrodden | using neutron btw | 18:55 |
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| mrodden | is this a bug? | 18:55 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, hehe, looks like the reason this conflicts is we both did the same kind of cleanup for identity_api -> assignment_api on one function | 19:02 |
| morganfainberg | s/function/method | 19:02 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: :) | 19:02 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, though whichever gets in first will likely need a close look at the subsequent rebase on the other | 19:03 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: i'm fine with handling it that way, i just wanted to make you aware / get your feedback | 19:03 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, yeah, doing the indepth review now, but the conflict looks like a simple we both cleaned something up | 19:04 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: i lost your review on this by revising the commit message https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46535/ (new gerrit feature?) | 19:06 |
| henrynash | dolphm: checking... | 19:08 |
| henrynash | dolphm: re-added | 19:08 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: thanks! | 19:10 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: easy one i'd like to get in during havana https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45753/ | 19:10 |
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| rizzpatel | Anyone here? | 19:14 |
| rizzpatel | I kinda "hacked" openstack to support Live Snapshots and Reverting snapshots | 19:15 |
| rizzpatel | If anyone wants to see it in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaRK96fD1Mc | 19:15 |
| rizzpatel | Hope i didn't break any rules with the youtube link. | 19:15 |
| rizzpatel | For now I am gonna keep it private, but if people are interested in it, maybe I can work on it some more..But anyway, I am able to snapshot, and revert my snapshots now with openstack :) | 19:16 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, aGREED | 20:25 |
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| morganfainberg | wow. capslock :P | 20:25 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: yAY! | 20:26 |
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| jaybuff | mordred: i used the cookiecutter-openstack template. thanks for that. tests didn't work out of the box for me: foo/test/__init__.py needs to call super(TestCase, self).setUp() | 20:48 |
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| jaybuff | i couldn't find a launchpad for reporting bugs... | 20:49 |
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| jaybuff | mordred: also, something stripped all the line endings | 20:55 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless, ping | 21:05 |
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| lifeless | morganfainberg: hi | 21:19 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46336/ is ready | 21:34 |
| jog0 | found another link between celio and nova-compute not sending heartbeat. still not 100% it is the cause though | 21:35 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless, so H803 should be ignored then? The conversations on the mailing list didn't seem to make that clear. | 21:39 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, period at the end of subject line in commit | 21:39 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless, i assume as much since you posted a review for ignoring it. | 21:40 |
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| lifeless | morganfainberg: what seemed clear to me is that noone thought enforcing it was a good idea - 'waste of time'. | 21:42 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: opinions as to whether periods should always present/never present/as appropriate were all over the place. | 21:42 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, I read it a little different that no one should enforce a -1 as a nit in reviewing, but from a hacking perspective i wasn't sure. | 21:42 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless, i'm fine with removing that restriction | 21:43 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, just wanted to make sure i read it correctly :) | 21:43 |
| morganfainberg | I think I just don't care one way or another, as long as no one is going to come complaining about it later. | 21:44 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: hacking core devs are split over this; there is a check in hacking, that the author of wants to remove, but the patch to do it got a -2 and two +2's. | 21:44 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, i guess that makes it hard to know the way the lines draw | 21:44 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: my reasoning is that if hacking can't decide, other projects can - all of tripleo ignores H803, and we never judge periods-at-end-of-commit message as a subject for review. | 21:45 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: openstack-infra has ignored H803 in several projects, as has oslo (e.g. pbr). | 21:45 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, I'm of the opinion that there should be a good reason to ignore hacking checks. | 21:45 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: I agree, subject to the condition that hacking checks should reflect consensus. | 21:45 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: I don't believe this one does. | 21:46 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, but again, as long as no one is going to complain about it after, sounds good to me :) | 21:46 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, if you'll rebase the changeset i'll +2 it based upon this convo | 21:46 |
| morganfainberg | we had another tox.ini change go in this morning, conflicts | 21:46 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: there are folk that may complain, but there are plenty of folk with grammar muscle memory being broken by the status quo :) | 21:47 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: ok, keystone right? | 21:47 |
| morganfainberg | yep | 21:47 |
| morganfainberg | imo people should run tox -epep8 before submitting a patch to gerrit | 21:47 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: H304 is no longer ignored? [making sure I resolve the patch correctly] | 21:47 |
| morganfainberg | as of this morning, we aren't ignoring anything iirc. 2x check | 21:48 |
| morganfainberg | sec | 21:48 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, correct right now (before your change) ignore is empty | 21:48 |
| lifeless | rebased and pushed | 21:48 |
| morganfainberg | thanks. | 21:48 |
| lifeless | thank you :) | 21:49 |
| lifeless | jog0: ^ FYI | 21:49 |
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| jog0 | nice | 21:50 |
| jog0 | will take care of H803 next week | 21:51 |
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| Farooque1 | kooi, if you want to do more test please go for it | 23:24 |
| Farooque1 | sorry, wrong window | 23:25 |
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