Wednesday, 2013-08-14

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morganfainbergdolphm: quick question, this is massive, but should be safe, any concerns? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41487/00:10
morganfainbergits just… a lot.00:10
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ayoungdolphm, so you latest version of oauth just changes "delegation" to "oauth1"  and you -1ed it.  What concerns do you have?00:41
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morganfainbergayoung: typically how do we handle bugs in LP that are.. not valid?  does someone curate them down the line or, in the case of it being invalid, i should just mark it as such? (just trying to get a feel for the right approach, and how you/the rest of keystone-core handles it)00:54
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morganfainbergobviously with proper comments explaining why it's invalid.00:57
colinmcnamara1Need help getting a new dev through her first commit00:58
colinmcnamara1getting an error w/ git review00:58
colinmcnamara1emote: Permission to openstack/openstack-manuals.git denied to sarahnovotny.00:58
colinmcnamara1fatal: unable to access 'http://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals.git/': The requested URL returned error: 40300:58
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morganfainbergcolinmcnamara1: i've actually not seen that before from git review.01:15
morganfainbergcolinmcnamara1: The only thing I could guess was the need to sign the CLA?  other than that, i wish i could be more help01:17
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morganfainbergcolinmcnamara1: ah i see infra has ya01:17
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clarkbmorganfainberg: we sorted in in -infra. there was a stray ~/.gitreview setting pointing git-review at github instead of gerrit01:19
morganfainbergclarkb: i saw, yeah01:20
dolphmmorganfainberg: did you get your question about invalid bugs answered?01:20
morganfainbergdolphm: nope01:20
dolphmmorganfainberg: mark them invalid if you've tried to reproduce and can't01:21
morganfainbergdolphm: will do.  thanks.01:21
dolphmmorganfainberg: incomplete if there's not enough info to repro01:21
morganfainbergit was a bug with the wrong invocation of run_tests.sh01:22
dolphmmorganfainberg: i try to help out or point them to docs and mark invalid01:22
dolphmmorganfainberg: can always re-open!01:22
morganfainbergyep.  sounds good :)01:22
morganfainbergdolphm: just making sure i was in line with the project.01:22
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morganfainbergdolphm: always bad to have some rogue person out there doing something wonky01:22
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dolphmmorganfainberg: i'm looking at the bug you're referring to... that *will* be needed if we move to testrepository, i believe01:23
dolphmmorganfainberg: and yeah, i barely review oslo sync's01:25
morganfainbergdolphm: i don't know if 'm just doing LP wrong, but i can't seem to assign anyone to bugs.01:25
morganfainbergdolphm: it always just askes me to "search" for someone in a team i am part of01:25
morganfainbergbut no one is search-able01:25
morganfainbergwell, except i can assign to myself, of course.01:25
morganfainbergi'm probably doing something wrong in launchpad.01:25
dolphmmorganfainberg: as long as they author isn't likely to have added extra changes01:26
dolphmmorganfainberg: let me look at lp01:26
morganfainbergdolphm: if you think it's worth merging in advance i'll go ahead and +2 it, but in the context, it wasn't relevant01:26
morganfainbergdolphm: good to know about the oslo stuff.01:27
dolphmmorganfainberg: added you to keystone-drivers01:27
morganfainbergdolphm: ok01:27
dolphmmorganfainberg: i still have to search all the time though, but i'm able to get people to show up01:27
morganfainbergdolphm: makes sense01:27
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morganfainbergdolphm: yep, now people show up01:29
dolphmmorganfainberg: cool01:29
dolphmmorganfainberg: there's surely *another* list i forgot to add you to as well01:30
morganfainbergdolphm: hehe, it's all good. when we find it, i'll get added to it01:30
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ayoungmorganfainberg, link?01:41
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morganfainbergayoung: talked it out w/ dolphm, got it resolved on approach01:42
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morganfainbergayoung: i'm going to approve the test moving patch, unless you think we should hold and rebase it based upon some of the other upcoming (failed verify et al) changesets.01:45
morganfainbergayoung: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36184/01:45
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ayoungmorganfainberg, go ahead.  I think it will help the Tempest effort01:57
morganfainbergayoung: sounds goo.d01:57
morganfainberggood*01:57
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ayoungmorganfainberg, it will cause a few rebases in the near term, but better now than right at deadline02:00
morganfainbergright.02:00
morganfainbergthat was my thought02:00
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ayoungmorganfainberg, BTW, there are a handful of Client reviews that could use a second look.  jamielennox|away has a stack of them:  https://review.openstack.org/#/dashboard/719102:01
morganfainbergayoung: i'll do those tonight when i get home02:01
morganfainbergso hopefully we can start having less pending reviews lingering around. :)02:02
ayoungsounds good.02:02
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ayounglbragstad_, can you run the oslo-incubator tests?02:12
lbragstad_on master?02:13
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lbragstad_ayoung: let me check02:14
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ayounglbragstad_, yeah...my machine has been somewhat unhappy due to devstack randomly removing packages on me (A Fedora issue) and right now neither tox nor nose will run02:15
ayoungwant to make sure it is really my machine before I start tearing things apart.  Keystone tests run fine02:15
lbragstad_ayoung: mmm gotcha02:15
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ayounglbragstad_, yeah, I get http://paste.fedoraproject.org/31949/37644663/02:17
lbragstad_ayoung: recreating my tox env right now,02:17
ayoungpkg_resources.VersionConflict: (setuptools 0.6c11 (/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages), Requirement.parse('setuptools>=0.7')02:18
lbragstadayoung: what did you try running with tox?02:18
ayoungOK,  setuptools on that project is ahead of what fedora provides02:18
ayounglbragstad, just cd /opt/stack/oslo-incubator02:19
ayoungtox02:19
lbragstadayoung: ok, I'm doing 'tox -recreate -e py27'02:19
ayounglbragstad, I think it is a Fedoraism.  I am going to install the Rawhide version of stuptools and see if that makes it work.  Suspect I'll get further02:20
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lbragstadayoung: ok, cool let me know if that gets you further02:21
ayoungyeah, that seems to be doing the trick.  Fedora has an old version of setuptools02:21
ayoungIts at 6 something, and the Fedora Rawhide one jumps to 902:21
ayoungpython-setuptools-0.9.6-2.fc20.noarch02:21
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ayoungnot sure why the nosetest version was failing, suspect a similar issue with sqlalchemy02:22
lbragstadayoung: hmmm that seem aways behind...02:24
ayounglbragstad, ok,  the failures are starting now in tox02:24
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ayoungAMQP stuff, guessing it is having trouble connecting.02:25
ayounglbragstad, yeah, would appreciate you running the tests off of master.02:26
lbragstadayoung: still recreating the env... :/02:26
lbragstadtakes forever...02:26
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lbragstadayoung: ok, running now... looks to be going through the amqp tests fine02:28
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lbragstadayoung: http://paste.openstack.org/show/44088/02:30
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ayounglbragstad, thanks.  good to know.  I am rerunning with tox -recreate -e py2702:31
lbragstadayoung: ok, that did the trick for me a few times02:31
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stevemarwow, lots of late night activity02:33
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ayounglbragstad, what OS you running? Ubuntu?02:35
lbragstadayoung: yeah02:35
ayoungRan 2033 (+1016) tests in 54.164s (-1.888s)02:35
ayoungFAILED (id=1, failures=2, skips=13)02:35
ayoungjamielennox|away, you around?02:35
lbragstadayoung: 12.0402:35
stevemardolphm, up late?02:36
lbragstadlooks like we have a good part of the keystone crew here now02:37
dolphmstevemar: yep02:40
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dolphmstevemar: was about to go do something else :P you have some oauth work to do :P02:40
stevemardolphm: yes, i've noticed, darn02:40
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dolphmstevemar: tests are generally great btw02:40
ayounglbragstad, Any idea what is the tox equivalent of -x for running tests? How do I stop on first failure?02:41
stevemardolphm: good to hear02:41
stevemardolphm: i'll try to do all the changes tonight02:41
stevemardolphm: i was hoping to get it in <60 patch sets, to match ayoung's trust work :)02:42
dolphmstevemar: that's an honorable goal lol02:42
clarkbayoung: tox -epey $argument_to_make_your_test_runner_do_that02:42
clarkbayoung: that depends on tox.ini passing posargs to the test runner02:43
lbragstadclarkb: thanks!02:43
clarkber -epy2702:43
dolphmstevemar: don't overwrite my delegated_auth / oauth -> oauth1 rename :)02:43
clarkbnot sur where that tyop came from02:43
stevemardolphm: do you feel you;ve gone through it enough?02:43
stevemardolphm: haha, i made a mental note to make sure i get your changes this time!02:43
ayoungstevemar, might I suggest you do a git review -d <changenum>02:44
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stevemarayoung: what's that do?02:44
dolphmstevemar: do you feel it will match spec when you're done?02:44
ayoungit fetches the review from gerrit02:44
ayoungcd /opt/stack/keystone ;  git review -d Ib5561593ab608f3b22fbcd7196e2171f95b735e802:45
ayoungit will create a branch named after the committer and the blueprint02:45
stevemardolphm: some things are standing out...02:45
stevemarayoung: cool02:45
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ayoungstevemar, yeah, I do it for my own reviews even, to make sure I am not working on an old version02:47
stevemardolphm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29130/58/keystone/contrib/oauth1/core.py02:47
ayounggit reveiw has a few neat options02:47
stevemarline 287 and a bunch there02:47
stevemarline 289 (not 287), where you say 'not in the spec'02:47
dolphmstevemar: yeah that attribute is not in the spec02:48
stevemardolphm^ i'm just storing them in the backend that way02:48
stevemardolphm: but theyre not returned that way02:48
dolphmstevemar: what is it in the backend? objects?02:48
stevemardolphm: yeah02:48
dolphmstevemar: they contain ID and name?02:48
stevemarjust your typical sql/kvs backend, ID, no name02:49
dolphmstevemar: then https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29130/58/keystone/token/providers/uuid.py line 224 you're dumping a bunch of ID's into a token where names are also expected?02:49
stevemaroh, you meant specifically the requested roles02:50
stevemarno, it has id's and names02:50
dolphmstevemar: so that's stored in 'extra' in sql i'm assuming?02:50
stevemardolphm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29130/58/keystone/contrib/oauth1/core.py line 40002:51
stevemardolphm: not 'extra', i just called it 'requested_roles'02:52
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dolphmstevemar: everytime you import datetime, as yourself if you should be using oslo timeutils02:58
dolphmstevemar: same for json & oslo jsonutils02:58
stevemardolphm: yeah, noticing that now02:59
dolphmstevemar: what's the point of this file? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29130/58/keystone/common/oauth.py03:02
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stevemardolphm: common entry point to the oauth library03:02
dolphmstevemar: i'd suggest copy/pasting that same stuff into keystone.contrib.oauth1.core ... that way anything outside of contrib can reference it as oauth1.Consumer() for example03:02
dolphmstevemar: (it's not really common at all)03:02
stevemarerr, bad use of the word common03:03
stevemarshared entry point to the oauth library03:03
stevemardolphm: alright03:03
dolphmstevemar: do you test against the kvs backend at all?03:05
dolphmstevemar: if not, can you make it go away?03:05
dolphmstevemar: if so, can you make it go away?03:05
stevemarhaha03:05
stevemari do test against it03:05
dolphmstevemar: does it get the same coverage as the sql backend?03:05
stevemardolphm: i'm not super clear on how 'test_v3' picks the backend03:06
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stevemarif there is something i can do to only call sql, i'll easily scrap kvs03:07
dolphmstevemar: where did you write backend tests?03:10
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stevemardolphm: i figured backend is exercised via the oauth tests03:12
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dolphmdo not comprehend03:12
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dolphmstevemar: what tests fail if you delete the kvs backend and why03:15
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stevemardolphm: i changed this file https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29130/58/tests/test_overrides.conf03:16
stevemari think that makes it run the kvs backend03:16
dolphmstevemar: but you didn't write any tests against the backend03:16
dolphmstevemar: and i assume you configured your api tests to run against sql?03:17
stevemardolphm: i got it working months ago, and was happy at that. didn't look bad03:18
stevemardolphm: the way the tests are laid out, is probably more confusing than keystone itself :)03:18
dolphmseriously03:18
dolphmstevemar: i'm going to go not look at code until tomorrow, ttyl03:19
stevemaralrighty03:20
stevemardolphm: see ya tmrw03:20
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morganfainbergstevemar: oh hi! welcome back03:26
stevemarmorganfainberg: ahoy03:26
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stevemarmorganfainberg: how well do you know the test structure in keystone?03:27
morganfainbergstevemar: reasonably well.03:27
morganfainbergstevemar: but it's a bit confusing sometimes.03:27
stevemarmorganfainberg: alright, i want to scrap my oauth kvs backend, but currently i'm tesitng against that03:28
morganfainbergah03:28
stevemarmorganfainberg: only because i don't know how to make the test_v3_oauth.py tests, test against the sql backend03:28
stevemarmakey sensey?03:28
morganfainbergyeah03:29
morganfainbergsec. checking a merge conflict, then i'll be able to help you03:29
stevemarmorganfainberg: i initially changed test_overrides.conf, but it seems that that file is only meant for kvs backends03:30
stevemarmorganfainberg, sure thing03:30
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morganfainbergstevemar: ok, i'll have to look at that later.03:32
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stevemarmorganfainberg: cool03:32
morganfainbergstevemar: so you're looking to remove kvs backend?03:33
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stevemarmorganfainberg: yep03:33
morganfainbergstevemar: sorry the look at later was the merge conflict.03:33
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stevemarmorganfainberg, ahhh03:33
morganfainbergwell, the test_overrides is the default overrides for the test suite03:34
morganfainbergiirc03:34
morganfainbergif you look at the defaults in the config, all of the drivers are probably the SQL driver(s) instead of the kvs driver, so test_overrides.conf makes it so that the test framework uses the kvs backends03:35
morganfainbergif you need a custom, and specific config file, you can do what test_auth_plugin.py and test_auth_plugin.conf does.03:36
morganfainberghrm let me look a bit closer :)03:37
stevemaroh, i like your first explanation03:37
stevemarso where do the core drivers get loaded, in load_backends(), but I have oauth in there too03:38
morganfainbergi think i'm missing some context, what is the issue you're having?03:39
morganfainbergi think i am missing something in this convo cause i can't make sense of it atm :P03:39
morganfainbergwell, only partially03:39
morganfainbergstevemar: i apologize, it's a bit late and i've been staring at code all day ;)03:41
stevemarhehe, okay,03:42
stevemarmorganfainberg: 1) i want to get rid of kvs backend, 2) currently for the (only) tests I run, they depend on adding an oauth driver to the test_overrides.conf file, 3) if I remove that line, nothing is run, 4) if i change that to sql nothing is run03:43
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stevemarmorganfainberg: well, "nothing is run" really means that it attempts to do stuff, but no such table exists03:44
morganfainbergstevemar: you need to in your setup run your migrate03:44
morganfainbergremember, your migrate isn't run by default03:44
stevemarmorganfainberg: hmm, i remember running into this before ayoungs work03:44
stevemarmorganfainberg: but i guess even then, it wasn't run by default03:45
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morganfainberghrm. should have been migrated back then03:45
morganfainberglet me checkout your code into my devstack03:45
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morganfainbergstevemar: i think all you need to do is get the db_sync() in your "setUp()" function04:02
morganfainbergstevemar: I'm just not seeing how to coerce the tests into migrating an extension's sql04:02
stevemarmorganfainberg: yeah, i took a peek at test_sql_migrate_extensions.py04:03
stevemarbut that wasn't as helpful04:03
stevemarunless i just repeat some of those commands04:04
morganfainbergahah04:05
morganfainberglook at test_sql_upgrade.py04:05
morganfainberghttps://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/tests/test_sql_upgrade.py#L12804:06
morganfainberghrm04:06
morganfainbergstevemar: and https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/tests/test_sql_upgrade.py#L7604:07
morganfainbergfor how it finds the repo path04:08
morganfainbergstevemar: my guess is you need to inherit test_sql_upgrade.SqlMigrateBase and make a function "repo_package" that returns your module04:10
morganfainbergstevemar: like the test_sq_migrate_extensions.py does it04:10
locke105jgriffith: so what was the problem with vagrant?04:11
morganfainbergstevemar: if that makes sense.04:11
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stevemarmorganfainberg: hmm, i have to extend test_sql_upgrade.blah, first and add repo_package04:13
morganfainbergstevemar: yes, that is what it looks like.04:13
stevemar1st test passed, 2nd one failed, conflicting entries04:14
morganfainberghmm.04:14
stevemarmorganfainbergL should i be extending both: test_sql_upgrade.SqlMigrateBase, test_v3.RestfulTestCase ?04:14
morganfainbergi.. i don't know.04:14
stevemarmorganfainberg: pretty sure that's what's bugging it04:14
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morganfainbergstevemar: you might need to hit up ayoung for best approach on this04:15
stevemarmorganfainberg: booourns04:16
morganfainbergyou could make a class you instantiate and use to setup the db (use .upgrade) in the setup of each of your test cases04:16
morganfainbergthat _might_ be the right way / workable way04:17
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morganfainbergand that special class based on the SqlMigrateBase class.04:19
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stevemarmorganfainberg: this all seems highly unnecessary04:23
stevemari feel it should be one of those things that should be easy to add to04:24
stevemarmaybe not for extensions04:24
morganfainbergstevemar: this might be just somethign missing (aka. an easy mechanism for this)04:24
morganfainbergstevemar: i'm just not seeing it stand out at the moment04:24
stevemarmorganfainberg: yeah, i'll bug ayoung about it tmrw, i have more than enough things to fix (dolphm had 20+ comments)04:25
stevemarjust when i thought i had free time for reviews!04:25
morganfainbergstevemar: hehe. it happens. ;)04:26
morganfainbergstevemar: once i get done with a bunch of keystoneclient reviews, i'm gonna keep working on the caching stuff :)04:26
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stevemarhoping to get caching in H3?04:26
morganfainbergstevemar: absolutely04:29
morganfainbergstevemar: i think i'm going to back down the agressiveness of the caching to only be ideneity, assignment, token (driver, provider)04:29
morganfainbergand back-fill the other caching once those are proven04:29
morganfainbergsince it's a lot of work to handle invalidates (grants, trusts, etc)04:30
morganfainbergand likely there is going to need to be a massive amount of tests to go with it04:30
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stevemaryeah, it seems like a lost to squeeze in - yep04:30
morganfainbergbut caching id/assignment/token should be a lot of the workload04:30
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morganfainbergstevemar: night dude, catch ya tomorrow04:37
morganfainbergoh04:37
morganfainbergfyi.04:38
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morganfainbergstevemar: keep your eyes open, i'm hopfully going to push this review tonight: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36184/04:38
morganfainbergstevemar: means tests directory will move04:38
stevemarmorganfainberg: see ya tmrw! i'll take a look at that patch now04:39
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morganfainbergit's just waiting jenkins to +1 it so i can approve it.04:40
stevemaryeah a lot of other projects have moved tests under the project04:42
morganfainbergstevemar: yep. it'll add a little pain now, but better now than at h3 crunch04:42
morganfainbergi swear i'm going to go get food and head home.04:42
morganfainbergnow.04:42
morganfainberg..>04:42
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mateljog0: are you here?08:15
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matelHi guys, I am looking for Joe Gordon.08:25
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matelI am looking for nova core reviewers, I would like to get some advice with a change.08:34
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matelI am looking for nova core reviewers, I would like to get some advice with a change.08:58
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ndipanovmatel, shoot09:01
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matelHi, this is the change: https://review.openstack.org/4165109:01
ndipanovmatel, might be better to ask on #openstack-nova though09:01
matelOh, okay, will go three.09:01
matelndipanov: thanks.09:02
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rohitkI have long pending review at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35365/. Would appreciate nova-core folks to have a look for the second +109:53
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jswarrenI have a review that has been pending for a week: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40232/  I was hoping that someone glance-core could approve it.  It's just sync'ing up oslo gettextutils.13:34
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simostevemar: in the oauth patches, can anyone use create_consumer w/o any auth ?15:09
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stevemarsimo: yes15:10
simodoesn;t this make easy to fill the database with requests ? Seem like a DoS in the making15:10
stevemarsimo: wait, by anyone, i mean any user15:11
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simostevemar: so this is authenticated ? sorry I didn;t see where auth is checked15:11
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ayounglbragstad, what changed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41484/415:20
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lbragstadayoung: checking... I thought I caught everythign... getting this:15:20
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lbragstadlbragstad: http://paste.openstack.org/show/44130/15:21
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ayounglbragstad, so the patch is unchanged between 3 and 4?15:23
ayoungjust a rebase?15:23
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lbragstadthis was the only change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41484/3..4/keystone/contrib/user_crud/core.py ayoung15:30
ayounghttp://logs.openstack.org/84/41484/4/check/gate-grenade-devstack-vm/918903f/logs/new/screen-key.txt.gz15:31
ayounglbragstad, ^^15:31
russellbrandom git review tip ... $ git review -m 41484,3-415:31
russellbto see the diff between the 215:31
ayoung/opt/stack/new/keystone/keystone/common/wsgi.py, line 38615:31
ayoungrussellb, thanks.  let me try that on this one...15:32
russellbmuch more pleasant than trying to see differences via gerrit for me anyway15:32
ayoungrussellb, is that a newer version of git review?15:33
ayounggit-review: error: unrecognized arguments: -m15:33
russellbmust be, it has been there for a while though15:33
russellbi install git-review via pip15:33
ayounggit-review-1.18-2.fc19.noarch15:33
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russellbi have 1.2215:34
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ayoungrussellb, thanks, that works nicely15:35
russellbcool15:35
lbragstadrussellb: thanks, that's handy15:35
russellb:)15:35
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lbragstadayoung: thanks, where did you find the log?15:38
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nachitopol: ping15:47
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nachitopol: I dont see any review comment from you on patch set 8 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38367/. But you have mentioned in review that you have made a comment15:51
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garykarosen: ping15:56
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SpamapShas anybody seen problems with neutron-dhcp-agent trying to sleep using a float, and thus getting an IOError from epoll?16:00
SpamapShttp://paste.openstack.org/show/4413516:01
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SpamapShrm no the float is the appropriate type16:04
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morganfainberg_abknudson: ping16:32
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bknudsonmorganfainberg: what's up?16:32
morganfainbergbknudson: i was looking at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38832 and the code seems good, but I wanted to try it out and see it in action… am I doing something wrong in passing Accept-Language header?  I tried a number of languages and it didn't seem to work.16:33
bknudsonmorganfainberg: first need to generate the files16:34
bknudsonpython setup.py compile_catalog16:34
morganfainbergbknudson: aha. THAT is it :P16:34
morganfainbergbknudson: it was late last night, i knew i was just doing something wrong ;)16:34
bknudsonthen when run keystone, need env var: export KEYSTONE_LOCALEDIR=/opt/stack/keystone/keystone/locale16:34
morganfainbergthis is why i ask these things :)16:34
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bknudsonmorganfainberg: maybe I need to add something to docs16:35
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morganfainbergthat would be good.16:35
morganfainbergI'll toss a note on the review as such16:35
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bknudsonmorganfainberg: great, thanks.16:35
morganfainbergyep yep.  :)16:36
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holmsjeez... how to restart nova in devstack?16:54
holmsnothing found in /etc/init.d16:54
bnemecholms: Find the appropriate screen page and ctrl-c.16:55
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bnemecRestart it by retrieving the previous command and running it again.16:55
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holmsappropriate screen page <-- what ? X_x16:55
holmsit's all in screens..?16:55
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bnemecholms: Devstack starts all of the OpenStack services in screen.16:56
bnemecDo screen -r.16:56
holmsstack@hp:/home/holms$ screen -r16:56
holmsCannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/22' - please check.16:56
holmswasn't working since debian fresh install16:56
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bnemecHmm, never seen that before.16:56
bnemecProbably time to hit up Google then. :-)16:57
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holms:)16:57
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morganfainbergholms: you are su/sudo'd over to the stack user i take it?16:58
morganfainbergholms: the issue is that /dev/pts/22 (your tty) isn't readable by the stack user, therefore screen gets bound up and unable to write to it16:59
morganfainbergholms: there are a few fixes (most are wildly insecure) not sure what is the best approach16:59
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holmschanged permission to tty17:02
morganfainbergholms:  yeah, that is the wildly insecure method, but if this is a devstack / in a VM / etc, likely that wont matter :)17:02
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notmynamehenrynash: I have a question about your pagination stuff17:03
henrynashnotmyname: shoot17:03
holmsnow screen -r resumed a screen what's next?17:03
holmsthis one probably is for cinder..17:03
notmynamehenrynash: well, maybe 2 questions. (1) what is it that is being paginated? the service catalog, right? (2) what are "standardized pagination semantics"?17:04
henrynashnotmyname: so pagination occurs when you list any collection on entities (i.e. GET /users, GET /projects etc.)17:04
bnemecholms: Check out the screen commands here: https://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/screen.html#Commands17:05
henrynashnotmyname: e.g. if you have 10,000 users, you can't pass back a list 10,000 long...17:05
notmynamehenrynash: ok. so the point is that it's returning a list of things that is relatively unbounded and can be updated frequently17:05
bnemecThe important ones for right now are switching windows and getting out of screen again.17:05
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henrynashnotmyname: yes, I guess the frequency of update is dependant on the entity, but our standard APIs assume you want the data as of "now" (as opposed to a reporting system where it might be stale)17:06
holmssetuped qemu, not seen in hypervizors tab in dashboard =/17:06
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rohitkHey nova-core folks, I have long pending review at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35365/. would be great if you take a look17:08
NobodyCamdhellmann: happen to be around?17:08
henrynashnotmyname: with regard to standardised semantics - this relates to whether we define, at the API level, a common what of saying (I want the the 3rd page), or whether you just have next & previous urls you blindly follow (i.e. the actual contents of the urls in terms might be different in terms of whether the data was being sourced from LDAP or SQL, since underlying paging sematics might be different)17:08
notmynamehenrynash: ok. my main problem is the page_number/size method of pagination doesn't work well to get a list of what you have. ie, going to the "next" page won't give you a consistent list of stuff17:08
holmsoh crap --> 2013-08-14 13:08:39.701 TRACE nova.openstack.common.threadgroup libvirtError: internal error Cannot find suitable emulator for x86_6417:09
arosengaryk: pong17:09
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henrynashnotmyname: (so I'm not wedded to a particular solution), but why wouldn't it be consistent17:10
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bnemecrohitk: Suggest you ask in openstack-nova17:10
bnemecYou're more likely to get the attention of a nova-core there.17:10
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notmynamehenrynash: suppose the following (adjust numbers to make sense to you): you are adding a list of users, either randomly or in reverse sorted order, at a rate of 5 per second. now, given a page size of 5, grab one page every second. ie page 1, page 2, etc.17:12
henrynashnotmyname: ok, so the "its changing under my feet problem"...17:13
notmynamehenrynash: yes. if there is any ordering on the results, then you can't do page number listings to get the contents17:14
notmynamehenrynash: and the main reason I care is because we do limit/marker queries in swift, and I don't want "The Way Things Are Done" to do it differently when it won't work for swift (and arguably won't work for keystone either17:15
henrynashnotmyname: so I think there were previous discussion (on some of the earlier projects) to use timestamps as well as PKs in the ordering to try and minimise this….but I haven't looked at it closely17:15
henrynashnotmyname: I do agree that the case of common approach to this across projects is a powerful argument17:16
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notmynamehenrynash: actually, for completeness, listings in swift support marker, end_marker, limit, prefix, and delimiter17:17
henrynashnotmyname: what are prefix & delimiter used for?17:17
notmynamehenrynash: and we had a patch that almost implemented reverse listings, but it wasn't merged. I'd still love to see it though17:17
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notmynamehenrynash: to "roll up" subsets of the listing. eg if you have books/poe/pit-and-the-pendulum, books/dickens/oliver-twist, and books/poe/raven, then a listing with ?prefix=books/&delimter=/ will result in a listing of /books/poe and books/dickens17:19
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henrynashnotmyname: ahh, ok17:20
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notmynamehenrynash: make sense (the pagination concern)? anything else to discuss on it?17:28
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henrynashnotmyname: absolutely, feel free at add your view to the ether pad (e.g. sounds like you think option c) ii) is the right approach)17:29
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holmshow can i start devstack after reboot?17:51
holms./stack.sh again? it rewrites all db17:51
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bnemecholms: ./rejoin-stack.sh17:52
holmsthanks17:52
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ayoungstevemar, you are trying to steal my record for most revisions to a review, aren't you?18:07
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stevemarayoung: unfortunately yes18:12
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ayoungstevemar, delegation is tricky.  If you get it wrong, you give away the keys to the kingdom.  Add to that the fact that Keystone is getting more and more strict about coding standards and you realize you've taken on a tough task.18:14
stevemarayoung: you said it man18:15
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stevemarayoung: seems like the coding standard is much more strict these days for keystone, ah well..18:16
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morganfainbergayoung: i got through most of jamielennox|away's reviews on keystoneclient i have a couple more (I spent a real hard couple hours each to make sure i didn't miss anything), but they look really solid.  I tossed +2 on the ones that did, but didn't approve since he has some changes on depenant ones, wasn't sure how zuul gated in that regard.18:20
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ayoungmorganfainberg, I don't think zuul will let them in, but it might eat up some resources testing them.  +2 is sufficent, we can approve when they are ready to go18:36
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ayoungstevemar, when the PTL position for Keystone came open, I supported dolph for it for just that reason;  we are the security basis for openstack, and we need to be solid, real solid.  He's good at that.  It lets me get away with being more the dreamer, if he is the enforcer.18:37
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ayoungthe end result makes the effort worthwhile18:37
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stevemarayoung: yeah, he's really detailed about that sorta stuff. bad timing for me though :) I noticed that some of the stuff in contrib got away with a bit :P18:39
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mroddenbnemec: around? got a quick question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40753/1/tests/unit/test_gettext.py before i push up the latest version...18:42
bnemecmrodden: Yeah, I'm here.18:43
mroddenbnemec: so do you think just a setUp/tearDown that remembers/resets the property is better?18:44
mroddenthats what i have18:44
bnemecmrodden: That sounds good.  Then if we decide to turn on lazy by default it will automagically work right.18:45
mroddenyeah18:45
mroddentheoretically18:45
mrodden:)18:45
bnemecI like "works in theory" better than "definitely doesn't work" :-)18:45
mroddenme too18:46
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ayoungstevemar, that stuff mostly predates me.18:48
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ayoungmorganfainberg, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41606/  can you thinkg of better verbage?18:55
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morganfainbergayoung: looking now19:18
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morganfainbergayoung: are we looking to be more specific or less specific in the phrasing, if we are looking to be less specific (that is to say, accepting of just about anything), perhaps the right answer is just to use "e.g. identity, compute, network, image, object-store, ...)19:21
morganfainbergand actually use the ellipses in the message19:21
ayoungmorganfainberg, yeah, the thing is, I think the service type is something that has to be registered first, no?  So it can't be just anything19:22
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morganfainbergah.19:23
morganfainberghm19:23
ayoungnah, that does not seem right19:23
ayoungit must be freeform19:23
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morganfainbergright19:23
morganfainbergthat was my thought19:23
morganfainberganywyas.. i'll think about it over lunch19:24
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morganfainbergand if there are still questions i'll chime in on the review19:24
morganfainbergwith some suggestions.19:24
ayoungmorganfainberg, service name and service type seem redundant19:24
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ayoungendpoint of a service19:24
ayounghrm19:24
morganfainbergayoung: you're right.  hmm19:24
morganfainbergbbib19:24
jswarrenCould someone from glance-core approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40232/ ?  It's just sync'ing up oslo gettextutils.19:26
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mordredmarkmcclain: ping19:35
mordredmarkmcclain: "Raising the importance of the bug as removing the netifaces dependency is very important on a cross project basis." - why is it important?19:36
mordredmarkmcclain: (I'm responding to teh swift thread, and would like more information)19:36
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markmcclainmordred: did I write that on the Neutron bug comment?19:40
mordredmarkmcclain: yeah19:40
mordredmarkmcclain: I have no opinion on the subject, so I'm trying to learn19:41
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markmcclainI raised it so that the review would get faster attention19:44
markmcclainThe crazy thing about netifaces is its usage in Swift and Neutron was relatively minro19:44
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roaetHello! I have a very basic question that I hope has a super basic answer: Why doesn't openstack use github issues?20:06
roaetObviously too late now, but, just curious?20:06
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notmynameroaet: because when we started using LP, github issues were not where they are today, and LP has extra facilities for project management that github doesn't have20:07
mordredroaet: hi! also, github is not open source20:07
roaetmordred: Oh. ok.20:07
roaetnotmyname: thanks.20:07
notmynamealso, since the code is only mirrored to github, we can't take advantage of the integration github issues has with their code hosting20:07
roaetnotmyname: where is the primary repo?20:08
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roaetif github isn't the 'prime'20:08
notmynameroaet: well, I suppose with DVCS there isn't a "primary". github is where everyone clones from, but review.openstack.org is where patches are sent20:08
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mordredyeah. review.openstack.org 'owns' the repos20:09
mordredand then replicates to github, so that people can clone from there if they want to20:09
notmynamemordred: depends on your perspective, right? isn't the primary repo in /Users/john/Documents/swift/ ?20:09
roaetindeed. I understand the D of DVCS, just typically there is a 'trusted' repo. I can't remember the general label people use though. So in this case it's review.openstack.org right?20:09
mordrednotmyname: :)20:09
mordredroaet: yes20:10
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notmynameroaet: humans aren't allowed to commit directly to the repo. github doesn't support that workflow, and review.openstack.org is what handles all that for the whole openstack community20:10
mordrednotmyname: what's a "/Users"? and why is swift in "Documents" ? :)20:10
mordredis swift a word doc now?20:10
mordrednotmyname: dude. seriously, if you could rewrite swift in word macros, you would be an absolute god20:11
torgomaticword docs are Turing-complete, so I don't see why not20:11
notmynameheh20:11
notmynamemordred: it's just an http wrapper for rsync, right? ;-)20:11
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roaettorgomatic: is your name from manos?20:11
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mordrednotmyname: that's what I've always said20:12
torgomaticroaet: you're one of the first people to get that. congrats! :)20:12
roaethaha. recently saw a rifftrax of it at a local theatre. Good stuff.20:12
notmynamemordred: and why I always have to tell you you're wrong ;-)20:12
mordrednotmyname: depends on your perspective ;)20:13
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notmynamemordred: oh, speaking of stuff to talk about with you...20:14
notmynamemordred: the 1.9.1 tag patch? what's that for?20:14
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mordrednotmyname: it was a by-hand test of how we'd do the more automated 'merge release back to master'20:14
notmynamemordred: we need a 1.9.2-dev tag for pbr to work well20:14
notmynamemordred: ah, cool20:14
notmynamemordred: carry on then ;-)20:14
mordrednotmyname: I also put up the patch for the job to make that happen on any tag that's done inside of a milestone-proposed branch20:15
notmynamemordred: do you need that one to land? or was the test just figuring out the steps20:15
mordrednotmyname: I can take it or leave it20:15
mordredit's not important to me - I can abandon if you'd prefer20:15
notmynameit doesn't do anything for us but add another merge commit20:15
mordred++20:17
mordrednotmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41927 btw - if you're interested20:17
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notmynametorgomatic: no. since it doesn't prevent caching and memcache will handle flushes when it gets full, it seems like an important patch but not one that demands a hurry-up release20:28
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notmyname...unless I don't yet comprehend the full impact of it20:28
torgomaticnotmyname: so someone does a container HEAD, and some stuff gets cached20:29
torgomaticthen a new object PUT happens, and the byte count gets updated, but the cache doesn't get flushed20:29
morganfainbergayoung: i was thinking about it, if it has to be registered, we should be making that list available20:30
notmynameso "eventually" becomes when your cache fills up20:30
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torgomaticmore and more PUTs happen, and the user goes waaaaay over quota because nothing ever updates that container's cached rectord20:30
torgomatic*record20:30
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ayoungmorganfainberg, see my latest comment. I robbed the API doc20:30
morganfainbergah ok20:30
torgomaticnotmyname: if you've got a big cache and small active-container cardinality, that may be a really really long time20:30
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morganfainbergayoung: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41606/ ? I don't see anything beyond "language is still awkward"20:31
ayoungstill draft...one sec20:32
morganfainbergah ok, no rush/worries20:32
morganfainberg:)20:32
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morganfainbergayoung: ah yes, that makes way more sense.20:33
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nachiayoung: ping21:07
ayoungnachi, hey21:07
nachiare you able to run individual test in keystone21:08
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ayoungI was21:08
ayounglet me try now that we have moved tests into the main21:08
lbragstadnachi: do you get a module not found error?21:08
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nachiyes. i get the Import error21:08
lbragstadnachi: ok, yeah I think I've hit that a few times too.21:09
ayoung ./run_tests.sh keystone.tests.test_sql_upgrade21:09
ayoungthat works21:09
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nachioh ok. i was just running ./run_test.sh test_sql_upgrad21:10
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ayoung./run_tests.sh keystone.tests.test_sql_upgrade:SqlUpgradeTests.test_downgrade_to_021:10
nachiayoung: thanks. i will try that21:10
ayoungnachi, I'm going to have to update all of my scripts, but yes, it works21:10
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nachiayoung: it works now21:11
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morganfainbergyeah, it changed with the recent test move21:12
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morganfainbergayoung: reminds me i need to update my scripts as well :P21:12
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mordredwe'll get you ./run_test.sh test_sql_upgrad back21:32
mordredonce we've got you on testr - that knows how to do the thing you want it to do21:33
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morganfainbergmordred: ah, testr the cause and solution to all our problems? ;)21:37
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mordredmorganfainberg: yup!21:37
mordredit solves all of _these_ problems21:37
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morganfainbergi look forward to being on testr then.21:39
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morganfainbergmordred: out of curiosity, will jgit be able to handle merging things properly after tests were moved and changes to the test files (in the old location) occured?  I know in some cases normal git can, but i know jgit isn't exactly normal.21:41
mordredyes. it shouldn't be  aproblem21:42
morganfainbergmordred: ok cool.  i am looking over some reviews and if rebases were needed for that, i was going to need to say as much.21:42
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morganfainbergmordred: thanks21:42
mordredI'm not fully sure what confuses gerrit/jgit exactly- but it _should_ be ok21:42
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clarkbalso if we ever upgrade gerrit it iwll come with newer jgit which is supposed to be much better than C git21:48
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morganfainbergclarkb: if you ever get to upgrade gerrit, i'll be happy, since i can then use the same version internally at my company (and people like the "new features" so i can't switch)21:50
morganfainbergclarkb: switch internal versions that is.21:50
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jaypipesclarkb: we run a newer gerrit, as you know... there's really not much difference IMO.. :) performance-wise, that is21:54
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NobodyCamTY dhellmann :)22:10
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