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| giulivo | sdague, so that means you're an arch linux fan ? | 14:02 |
| sdague | giulivo: not really :) | 14:02 |
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| sdague | it was meant to be sarcastic | 14:02 |
| giulivo | yeah I get that and didn't know there have been efforts to go the other way | 14:03 |
| sdague | but, seriously, if we strip out all package installs, it's almost not testing anything in the distro at all | 14:03 |
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| sdague | yeh, we've been very aggressively replacing pips with packages when we can | 14:03 |
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| sdague | so we aren't compiling numpy 3000 times a day in the gate | 14:04 |
| sdague | for instance | 14:04 |
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| giulivo | sdague, indeed but what is the purpose of the gating, testing the target distro or testing the code additions (which can also eventually rely on new/not-easily-found modules) ? | 14:05 |
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| giulivo | I'm more for a distro-independent approach | 14:05 |
| sdague | giulivo: but if we replace a lot of the distro with upstream we're actually testing something no one has | 14:06 |
| giulivo | yeah it is a difficult trade-off to find | 14:06 |
| sdague | also, if you are on fedora 19 or raring, you actually have a lot of those packages already | 14:07 |
| sdague | at good versions | 14:07 |
| sdague | so blanket culling definitely seems like the wrong approach | 14:07 |
| giulivo | oh surely you have more chances to succeed but I'm still of the idea that we should enforce testing of the code changes and not of the distro packaging | 14:08 |
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| giulivo | and, given that any distro could potentially bundle those packages | 14:08 |
| giulivo | I'd just try to make sure the requirements are well maintained | 14:08 |
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| giulivo | what package will your distro have or not have, it is not something gating should care about | 14:09 |
| sdague | ok, but then where do you draw the line? we have a lot of work arounds for rhel6 at the moment, including because python was patched incorrectly with eventlet | 14:09 |
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| sdague | and I think not working on rhel6 isn't really in the best interests of anyone | 14:09 |
| giulivo | agreed, but it is in the interest of rh to fix that | 14:10 |
| giulivo | if that is the case | 14:10 |
| sdague | because packages != upstream code in a wrapper. The packages actually have patches in them. | 14:10 |
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| giulivo | exactly, rh has this rdo thing and ubuntu bundles openstack packaged too | 14:10 |
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| giulivo | so if the whatever patch on rh fails, it is in charge to rh to fix that patch | 14:11 |
| sdague | well... the fact that rhel6 python is still funny shows that is a harder problem to solve in practice | 14:11 |
| wu_wenxiang | ayoung: Could you help to re-check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39317/? This defense make sense. | 14:11 |
| sdague | because it's not a new issue | 14:11 |
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| sdague | anyway, my preference is we use packages whenever we can. So I don't like the wholescale pull of everything. | 14:12 |
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| giulivo | sdague, I admit I don't know much about the specific thing either, I'm only enjoying the discussion on what would be a good approach in my opinion | 14:12 |
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| sdague | but I'd support a conditional install wrapper that figures out if the package is going to satisfy global requirements, if not skip it | 14:12 |
| sdague | sort of a "universal requirements" | 14:13 |
| sdague | so we don't install then install over any code | 14:13 |
| giulivo | sdague, you mean something which prevents pip packages from overwriting distro packages? | 14:13 |
| sdague | no, actually the other way | 14:13 |
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| sdague | filter the package list against global requirements | 14:13 |
| sdague | so if the version of numpy doesn't match what's in global requirements, throw it out | 14:14 |
| sdague | then let it install | 14:14 |
| giulivo | oh I get it, that would ensure distro packages are all listed but only installed if they match the actual global requirements list | 14:15 |
| giulivo | correct_ | 14:15 |
| giulivo | ? | 14:15 |
| sdague | right | 14:15 |
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| giulivo | but as I see it that won't be very helpful in testing the target distro because one never knows if the gating is using the distro packages or the pip packages | 14:17 |
| giulivo | not to count naming issues at the time of the lists comparison | 14:17 |
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| ayoung | wu_wenxiang, posted my comments. | 14:32 |
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| wu_wenxiang | ayoung: Thanks for your reply. So you mean the bug report is actually not a bug, but a mis-operation? | 14:38 |
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| wu_wenxiang | dolphm: How do you think about nash's comments? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38963/4/keystone/assignment/backends/ldap.py | 14:42 |
| jswarren | Looking for reviews of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39949/ It's a small (one-line) fix to oslo gettextutils. Feedback would be appreciated. | 14:42 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, what if I told you that https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/user-locale-api was a mistake? I am starting to think that error messages maybe should not be internationalized. I've had feed back from natice chinese speakers on another projects, an open source one, that they would rahter google for the error message in english, and having it in Chniese actually messed them up. Thoughts? Is this a case of th | 14:51 |
| ayoung | e pattern being different for Open Source versus proprietary software? | 14:51 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: you can get back the message in whatever language you want, just don't set the accept-language header on the request. | 14:52 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: if you don't get it, you get it back in us-english, or you can set it to whatever you want. | 14:53 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: should say if you don't set the accept-language header, you get back us-english | 14:54 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, yes, but what if the person that needs to figure it out has to do so only with the logs? Is I1*N here making things easier or harder? | 15:04 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: logs shouldn't be affected by this change. | 15:05 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, but, my point is, I18N is a hell of a lot of work. What if it is counter-productive to boot? | 15:07 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: we're already translating strings. using it is all optional. You just set your locale or whatever to get translated logs, now you can also set accept-language header to get translated error messages. | 15:09 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: I've heard the same thing at times... a Japanese customer on another project said it was ok to not translate because their admins would recognize the shapes even if they didn't understand the letters/words. | 15:12 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, I'm actually not really opposed, mind you, just wondering if it is really worth the effort. The big effort is usually not getting the I18N mech into place, but all of the translation work necessary. It seesm to me that I am not the right person to be code reviewing translations into Vietnamese or Hungarian. | 15:17 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: you didn't verify this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36860/ | 15:19 |
| bknudson | ayoung: looks like dolph took care of it. | 15:19 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: bknudson: i just review keystone.pot for sanity, and then approve... it's generated automatically from things that have already been through review | 15:21 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, are you OK on the approach for Extension Migrations https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36731/ ? I don't mind pushing through to acceptable standards, but I want to ensure that the effort is worth it. | 15:30 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: so, db_sync is no longer backwards compatible? | 15:37 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: so I still don't think I have it clear in my head when you would and would'nt use a separate repo | 15:53 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, it should still be backwards compatible. I've added additional options on, but left the old behavior alone. If that is not the, case, it is a mistake. However, code issues aside, are you OK with the general approach? I know you wanted Alembic first, Are you OK with doing Alembic on top of the split in Icehouse? | 15:53 |
| dolphm | ayoung: the old behavior is to execute all possible upgrades if no arguments are provided | 15:54 |
| ayoung | henrynash, An extension should be an optional component, right down to the DB level | 15:54 |
| dolphm | ayoung: you're not doing that anymore? | 15:54 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, yes, but extensions were never part of that. I think you were the one that suggested doing it explicitly. | 15:54 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: your answer on the ML - wasn't quite clear to me if you meant the whole thing could not be an extension, of if you were agreeing with me that that PART of the extension couldn't be an extension (if you see what I mean) | 15:54 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, for the case of endpoint filtering? | 15:55 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: yeah, but i was wrong in the name of backwards compatibility... we'd have to deprecated db_sync and introduce a new command that behaves differently... which i suspect isn't worth the effort | 15:55 |
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| bknudson | other projects seem to be going to "db sync" rather than "db_sync" | 15:55 |
| henrynash | ayoung: no, my example of an extension that had a number of components do it a) changed some fields in existing DBs, plus added a new table that only the extension would use | 15:56 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I think that in thes case we are outside the realm of backwards compat, as we didn't have any extensions in the past | 15:56 |
| henrynash | ayoung: would the first part of that still be in the extension repo? | 15:56 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I'm not wedded to making them explicit, or doing them the old way. I think we can stop now and state how it will behave in the future. | 15:57 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I don't think I would be OK with an extension modifying an existing DB schema. Period. The tables are linked to the backend. | 15:57 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: Ok, we agree :-) | 15:58 |
| ayoung | henrynash, so, if you needed to extend behavior in an existing backend to expose it to a new extension, it would be two commits | 15:58 |
| ayoung | and the extension would then go throug hte API, not direct to the DB | 15:58 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, the one parameter I did not add, but that would be nice to have, is one that lists the potential repos/extensions. | 15:59 |
| ayoung | bknudson, so keystone-manage db sync, and keystone-manage db version? | 15:59 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, do they have all mgmt functions in one executable? | 16:00 |
| bknudson | ayoung: right, in nova for example, "db" is a subcommand with other subcommands, like {archive_deleted_rows,sync,version} | 16:00 |
| henrynash | ayoung: so someone wanting to implement such an "extension", would create a core bit that did the changes to existing table (in the main repo)…and would have to get that through the gauntlet to make sure it didn't disturb anything (and not suitable , foe example, during this m3 phase)…. and then a separate (true) extensions that added the table that only the extensigns used, plus its various API responses etc. | 16:00 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, yeah, that sounds right | 16:02 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: ok, great. | 16:03 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, my general feeling is that things id and security related are going to gravitate to Keystone. We shouldn't be forced to carry something forever, but we also shouldn't default to "no" and so, the extensions mechanism provides a middle ground. We accept some feature conditioanlly. And, over time, that feature may grow to be its own service, separate from Keystone. I could see splitting Policy off this way, for examp | 16:05 |
| ayoung | le. Also the KDS stuff may make sense in a separate server. So the general approach should be: go to the top level Keystone URL< find the thing you want, and, it that takes you to a separate machine, it will all still work. | 16:05 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, part of that is making sure we keep the right level of insulation, which means that things talk to each other at the API level, which can be easily converted to Web calls if necessary. DB integration is inherantly more tighly coupled and tricker it extract. | 16:06 |
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| bknudson | db integrations gives you features like acid. | 16:06 |
| ayoung | bknudson, I had surgery to correct that | 16:06 |
| henrynash | ayoung: I think I'm OK with that…we just need to make sure we don't end up with something becomes unstable in ways we can't predict when you have multiple extensions which intertwine with each other (aka Windows)…we need to try and keep an individual extension well bounded in the way we keep core well bounded | 16:07 |
| ayoung | bknudson, agreed, and ACID makes sense for tightly coupled things | 16:07 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, yep. And, if we just want optional code, but not a separate repo, that should be OK, so long as we are deliberate about that. We should probably distinguish between extension that can live on their own and extensions that are really "extension of core modules" | 16:08 |
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| ayoung | or even, extension of extensions | 16:09 |
| henrynash | ayoung, dolphm, bknudson: have posted a full review-ready version of multiple-identity-backends at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39530/ | 16:09 |
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| henrynash | ayoung, dolphm, bknudson: ether pad bp discussion is at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/keystone-multiple-ldap | 16:09 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, very cool. I'll dig through it. I think this is "The Next Big Thing" (TM) | 16:10 |
| henrynash | ayoung: I munged the ether pad to try and describe better the two approaches….and suggest at the end how I might modify what I have done to better enable the "one LDAP, multi domains" case….. | 16:10 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: i.e. different sub-tree per domain pointing at one LDAP | 16:11 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, just the change at the top of keystone/identity/backends/ldap.py shows me that you and I were thinking along the same lines | 16:11 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: I think we actually are pretty close….and I do see the advantage of having a separate layer that describes the "servers" | 16:12 |
| ayoung | henrynash, what is, for example, register_str('url', conf=conf, group='ldap',default='ldap://localhost') doing with the conf=conf param? | 16:12 |
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| bknudson | henrynash: so I was looking at keystone/common/dependency recently, and it only allows one provider of 'identity_api', so how does it work when multiple identity_api providers created? | 16:12 |
| bknudson | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/common/dependency.py | 16:13 |
| ayoung | Is that saying that certain config file options can come from multipl config files? | 16:13 |
| henrynash | ayoung: you can now create separate conf objects, one for each backend….so you (optionally) pass a conf object to have all the options applied to | 16:13 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, is it really necessary to have that parameter explicit?...seems invasive. | 16:14 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: you mean using a named parameter or something else? | 16:15 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, yeah. I like the idea, just would be nice if the approach were a little clearer. | 16:15 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: happy to re-work that with a better suggestion, I didn't like it much either :-) | 16:16 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I'd be really interested in hearing what markmc would say, as he wrote a lot of the config stuff. I'm going to add him to the review | 16:16 |
| henrynash | ayoung: nice idea, I struggled with how best to do this bit... | 16:17 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, maybe if all of those calls were off a config object, adding things common across all of the calls would be cleaner. Also, it seems almost like the application of the conf file itself should be a stage after the big definition | 16:17 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, still, this is pretty cool, and having the implementation means we can even have this conversation. I'll thrilled. | 16:17 |
| henrynash | ayoung: you gotta start somewhere.. | 16:18 |
| ayoung | henrynash, so, this approach says "we have two types of config vaules. THose with out conf=conf can only be defined in the top level, but those with conf=conf can be definied in sub-components." | 16:19 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: well, actually, I wasn't tying to do that…I was allowing ANYTHING to modified….you rebuild a whole new config for each (domain-specifc) domain…so I just wanted the ability to create multiple configs | 16:20 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: (although you could make such a restriction) | 16:21 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I think that the magic in, for example, def register_str(*args, **kw): | 16:22 |
| ayoung | 131 conf = kw.pop('conf', CONF)133 conf = kw.pop('conf', CONF) | 16:22 |
| ayoung | 132 group = kw.pop('group', None)134 group = kw.pop('group', None) | 16:22 |
| ayoung | 133 return conf.register_opt(cfg.StrOpt(*args, **kw), group=group)135 return conf.register_opt(cfg.StrOpt(*args, **kw), group=group) | 16:22 |
| henrynash | ayoung: ….you rebuild a whole new config for each (domain-specifc) backend (I meant)…so I just wanted the ability to create multiple configs | 16:22 |
| ayoung | so at the top, you could, instead, do | 16:22 |
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| ayoung | Oh, I see. You continued the existing pattern. | 16:23 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I think that it would be better to drop the functions like register_str | 16:23 |
| ayoung | and just do conf. register_str | 16:24 |
| henrynash | ayoung: damn. I entirely agree :-) | 16:24 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: still getting used to those funky args/kwargs | 16:24 |
| ayoung | henrynash, So, I'll annotate that, but I don't think it undermines the value of the patch in the slighest | 16:25 |
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| jkyle | I just got a review (first one, learning gerrit). It says "(1 inline comment)" underneath the reviewers comment. | 16:25 |
| jkyle | how can I view that inline comment? | 16:25 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: yep , mark it up…I'll simplify that one with glee | 16:25 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I think now we see the power of the mechanism in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39530/11/keystone/identity/core.py | 16:26 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: yep, It hought that too…until now I was kind of thinking we had one too many layers, but nope, that was very useful | 16:26 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, OK, let me get this straight. You just implemented the killer feature, but after the feature freeze deadline. However, this is OK, because you did it in a 100% backwards compatible way that does not impact any public API of default config file option? | 16:28 |
| henrynash | ayoung: yep! | 16:28 |
| ayoung | Well done. henrynash | 16:29 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: that's why I was pushing on the definition of what we could and couldn't change... | 16:29 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: will be back on later | 16:33 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, sounds good. | 16:34 |
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| apevec | dolphm, if you like, you can also approve https://review.openstack.org/40249 | 18:49 |
| dolphm | apevec: done | 18:50 |
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| apevec | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Gerrit 2 +2 or 1 +2 and backport by stable-maint | 18:50 |
| apevec | dolphm, thanks | 18:50 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung: the more i am digging into the code, the more i'm thinking separate token_issue interfaces per version seem.. odd. i'm almost thinking that implementing something more akin to a builder-pattern would make sense. issue_token(<provider_backend>.token_format) instead of the way we do the arguments now. | 20:19 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung: but that might be a much bigger scope than the caching layer BP. | 20:21 |
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| shardy | ayoung: Quick question on your review of 39899, you say roles should be role_ids, but the API docs say it should be a list-of-dict's containing a role "name" key? | 20:28 |
| ayoung | shardy, API docs are correct. I remember thinking it the one place we use the good name not the id. | 20:29 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, yeah, builder seems like it would make a lot of sense for token | 20:30 |
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| shardy | ayoung: So I'm not sure what to do wrt dolphm's comment re what type of object? | 20:30 |
| ayoung | make it role names | 20:31 |
| shardy | ayoung: k, thanks | 20:31 |
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| ayoung | shardy, thanks for doing this. Much appreciated | 20:31 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung: I think i'm going to make the changes to the token interface minimal (just so validation can be cached) and propose a BP (Icehouse target) to get a proper builder for tokens in place. Related: is it a really bad thing if a V2 token validates under the V3 interface? It looks like it might be safer to enforce not allowing it (code is easier if it isn't bad) | 20:32 |
| shardy | ayoung: np, taken me a while to figure out, but hopefully given the knowledge I need to get the heat side of things working (now in progress) | 20:32 |
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| burt | oh, nm -- everything's in the request body | 21:18 |
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| mhu | hello, I would like to submit this blueprint for reviewing: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/ec2-keypairs-from-tokens | 21:20 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: hey | 22:36 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: wanted to quickly talk w/ you about the token provider changes Iw as thinking before I went any further | 22:36 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, sure | 22:37 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: the more i was pulling apart the code, the more I'm thinking I am going to do a very minor change to make validation cachable. since issuance doesn't need to be cached (and shouldn't be). instead of removing the **kwargs and magic issue_token method, I was thinking for Icehouse, we make a builder for the token | 22:38 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: so it looks like token = provider.issue_token(token_version_builder) | 22:38 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: saves the need for the ever-expanding list of args/kwargs and means we could make token versions strictly a provider deal | 22:39 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: i also wasn't sure if it would be a bad thing if validation of a V3 token (or vice versa) via the V2 interface would be bad. | 22:40 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, token issuance should be cachable as well | 22:40 |
| gyee | you can validate v3 token with v2 API as long as token is in the default domain | 22:40 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: why would you want to cache issuance? if I ask the provider to make me a token with the same username/password/etc it probably should return a new token each time? | 22:40 |
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| gyee | there's no need to re-issue token if parameters are the same | 22:41 |
| gyee | we should at least make it an option | 22:41 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: ok. i | 22:41 |
| morganfainberg | 'll continue down this path then | 22:42 |
| gyee | especially if we are going with short-live tokens, we need to improve performance at the token creation side | 22:42 |
| gyee | with short-live tokens, we are essentially punting the performance problem to token creation :) | 22:43 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: right. i think that should be up to the provider for efficiency. which is why a builder-pattern feels right :) | 22:43 |
| morganfainberg | we can make cool, and efficient default providers, but if someone hacks up something else... | 22:43 |
| morganfainberg | i don't mind making it cacheable i just am dislikeing having to hard-code version specific stuff outside of the provider (after digging into what you did earlier on) | 22:44 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, absolutely, its all about deployment options | 22:44 |
| morganfainberg | the nice thing about the **kwargs + version stuff you did, was it was a little less "version specific" method names. then again… as i describe it, it feel silly because the kwargs were version specific | 22:44 |
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| morganfainberg | soooo nevermind :P typing it out makes me realize this was the right path anyway, regardless of caching | 22:45 |
| gyee | I initially went with two separate interfaces | 22:45 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: yep. i think i'm going to propose a BP for builder for tokens in Icehouse | 22:46 |
| gyee | but we have to keep adding interfaces everytime we bump API version | 22:46 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: so we don't need to "add interfaces" we create a token builder that knows the proper stuff for the spec | 22:46 |
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| morganfainberg | and provide it with the version. :) | 22:47 |
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| gyee | I would rather operation on one version internally, and have middleware translate it into different versions | 22:47 |
| gyee | operating | 22:47 |
| gyee | the same way we deal with XML content type | 22:48 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: i think thats fine, but i'd still say that it's worth using a builder so long as the provider knows how to encode/decode the information that keystone needs. | 22:48 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: allows providers to be more in-control of token data. that is provided the middleware gets the smarts to handle that kind of concept | 22:48 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: in either case, thanks for hte quick discussion, makes sure i wasn't diving completly down the wrong path. | 22:49 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, no problem | 22:50 |
| gyee | btw, please add the auth_context back in there | 22:50 |
| gyee | without it, we can do federated token provider | 22:50 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: yeah there is some things that need help, notice WIP :) | 22:50 |
| gyee | we can't | 22:50 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: i just wanted to get a copy up online so i didn't lose it in the worst case scenario | 22:51 |
| gyee | ha, make sense | 22:51 |
| morganfainberg | i know it's missing things in the v3 pieces as well as some code i'm less than thrilled aty | 22:51 |
| morganfainberg | also, i moved one of the asserts in _verify_token to a validation error | 22:51 |
| morganfainberg | it seems you are using it at runtime. not that anyone i know uses python -O, but it wouldn't assert if the belongs_to was mismatched and the user was running optimised | 22:52 |
| morganfainberg | wasn't sure if i mis-interpreted that | 22:52 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, I was simply moving codes around | 22:52 |
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| gyee | but sure, we should get rid of the asserts if they are unreliable | 22:53 |
| morganfainberg | gyee: ok cool. i wasn't sure if you meant it to be runtime or really just for debugging | 22:53 |
| morganfainberg | assert works just like C/C++, if you disable debugging, they wont error | 22:53 |
| morganfainberg | in python that is an argument to the interpreter (-O) | 22:54 |
| morganfainberg | great for debugging, not so good for runtime :) | 22:54 |
| gyee | k, lets replace them | 22:54 |
| morganfainberg | yep, already on it :) cool | 22:54 |
| gyee | u da man! | 22:54 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee: nah, just someone who wants to see keystone to trend towards more awesome | 22:55 |
| morganfainberg | :) | 22:55 |
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