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| HugoKuo | does Sandy aroud ? | 09:42 |
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| HugoKuo | does anyone familiar with Zones features ? | 10:26 |
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| HugoKuo | https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/161259 an issue about Zones | 11:49 |
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| notmyname | ttx: I've updated some blueprints and details for swift 1.4.1. tentative date is set for 7-11 (4 weeks from now) | 16:30 |
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| openstackjenkins | Tarmac: Added more backend unit tests, reworked memory backend to use mutable objects instead of tuples, added account filter options. | 17:01 |
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| dabo | OK, so in a world with distributed zones, we're going to be using UUIDs as the primary identifier for instances. Any suggestions as to how those should map to ec2 IDs? The ec2 IDs will need to be globally unique, but 8 characters doesn't look like it will do the trick. | 17:10 |
| eday | dabo: months ago we decided the ec2 API can keep it's own mapping DB for uuids<->ec2 ids | 17:13 |
| dabo | eday: exactly - that's what I'm working on now | 17:13 |
| eday | not sure if that's still something we want to do | 17:13 |
| dabo | but current ec2 ids are based on the instance id field | 17:13 |
| dabo | that will not be unique across zones | 17:13 |
| dabo | iow, 'i-12345678' can exist as many times as there are zones. | 17:14 |
| eday | then you may need to run a central DB just for this ec2 mapping service | 17:14 |
| dabo | eday: that's not going to happen, of course | 17:15 |
| eday | but at least it won't comprimise the core/OS API | 17:15 |
| dabo | my question still remains: is there a way to maintain this mapping and still have unique ec2 ids? | 17:16 |
| eday | err, compromise | 17:16 |
| eday | not without a central authority handing out IDs, or being OK with assuming 8 char rand IDs are unique enough | 17:17 |
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| dabo | ok, I just ran 1 million uuid4() values, and there were 999878 unique "first 8 characters" create. Is that "unique enough"? | 17:26 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: around? | 17:26 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: was hoping you could weigh in on https://code.launchpad.net/~rackspace-titan/nova/remove-local-image-service/+merge/64080. bcwaldon has a question about how to link the Glance install docs from the Nova docs. Should we use a :doc: link or use the interwiki link stuff? | 17:27 |
| jaypipes | dabo: heh, if there are more than that number of nodes in a zone, I'd be surprised... | 17:29 |
| jaypipes | dabo: or does that need to be globally unique? | 17:29 |
| dabo | jaypipes: we're trying to think of a way to make ec2 ids globally unique | 17:29 |
| jaypipes | dabo: ah, sorry... | 17:30 |
| jaypipes | dabo: not sure if that is going to be possible. is there a requirement in the EC2 API that an instance ID by exactly 8 chars? | 17:30 |
| dabo | jaypipes: not 100% sure, but the 8-char length is pretty consistent in the ec2 stuff | 17:31 |
| jaypipes | bcwaldon: did you want input on https://code.launchpad.net/~rackspace-titan/glance/wsgi-refactor/+merge/64311? it's in Work in Progress, but wondered if you wanted some suggestions. | 17:31 |
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| jaypipes | dabo: hmm, I see. | 17:31 |
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| jaypipes | johnpur: afternoon, boss. | 17:42 |
| bcwaldon | jaypipes: Go ahead. | 17:43 |
| jaypipes | bcwaldon: already did :) | 17:44 |
| jaypipes | bcwaldon: there's an answer there as to why that test was now failing. | 17:44 |
| bcwaldon | jaypipes: Just saw. Thanks | 17:44 |
| jaypipes | bcwaldon: easy fix. | 17:44 |
| bcwaldon | jaypipes: any other design-related issues with the code? | 17:44 |
| jaypipes | bcwaldon: still going through :) | 17:44 |
| bcwaldon | jaypipes: take your time | 17:45 |
| bcwaldon | jaypipes: i actually want this new stuff in nova, too | 17:45 |
| jaypipes | bcwaldon: cool. | 17:45 |
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| openstackjenkins | Project nova build #999: SUCCESS in 2 min 53 sec: http://jenkins.openstack.org/job/nova/999/ | 18:14 |
| openstackjenkins | Tarmac: This fixes the server_metadata create and update functions that were returning req.body (as a string) instead of body (deserialized body dictionary object). It also adds checks where appropriate to make sure that body is not empty (and return 400 if it is). Tests updated/added where appropriate. | 18:14 |
| annegentle | jaypipes: I'm back, I'll take a look now | 18:15 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: cheers | 18:16 |
| annegentle | jaypipes: I think interwiki links are fine - the assumption is that the trunk version of the Glance install docs will always be correct for the trunk version of the nova site | 18:18 |
| blamar | jaypipes: was openstack-common abandoned because people disagreed on it's necessity? | 18:19 |
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| openstackjenkins | Tarmac: This fixes the server_metadata create and update functions that were returning req.body (as a string) instead of body (deserialized body dictionary object). It also adds checks where appropriate to make sure that body is not empty (and return 400 if it is). Tests updated/added where appropriate. | 18:19 |
| jaypipes | blamar: pretty much. | 18:22 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: would you mind commenting on that MP and letting bcwaldon know how to do the interwiki links? | 18:22 |
| annegentle | jaypipes: sure | 18:22 |
| blamar | jaypipes: sigh, ty | 18:22 |
| jaypipes | blamar: hey, don't blame me... | 18:23 |
| blamar | jaypipes: absolutely not! it would be amazing to have | 18:24 |
| jaypipes | blamar: I kinda gave up on it after trying for a few months to get some consensus on it.. | 18:27 |
| blamar | jaypipes: Gotcha, consensus is a draining process. | 18:28 |
| jaypipes | blamar: indeed :) | 18:29 |
| ttx | notmyname: cool, thanks | 18:30 |
| notmyname | ttx: I, of course, reserve the right to change everything ;-) | 18:31 |
| ttx | notmyname: of course :) | 18:31 |
| ttx | All rights reserved. | 18:31 |
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| notmyname | ttx: so remember when I said everything might change? | 18:49 |
| ttx | notmyname: yes... | 18:49 |
| notmyname | ttx: we've got some internal business reasons to release a small feature that's currently in trunk as soon as possible | 18:50 |
| notmyname | so the 2 options are for RAX to have an internal secret release or to hurry up and cut another release (like in a week-ish from now) | 18:50 |
| notmyname | sort of the first part of the original 1.4.1 stuff | 18:50 |
| notmyname | thoughts? I'd prefer to have all of the releases in the public, but I also understand the desire to give a long warning for the next versions | 18:51 |
| notmyname | the july 11 date could still possibly be met for a 1.4.2 (or it could be pushed too, if needed) | 18:52 |
| ttx | notmyname: I have to give it a thought... I want to keep it as timebased as possible and that interim release would be very featurebased | 18:52 |
| ttx | notmyname: so if it's just for a specific feature, I'd use an internal release... | 18:53 |
| ttx | notmyname: the case will happen again | 18:53 |
| ttx | notmyname: so I fear we have a one-month plan and suddenly due to operational issues you have to push a quick release that disrupts it | 18:54 |
| notmyname | true, but we're essentially doing feature releases now | 18:54 |
| ttx | notmyname: if it was a one-off I'd say, just use 1.4.1 for that... but I think it will happen again, and again | 18:55 |
| ttx | In the end it will be difficult to grow a community around swift if product appears to be completely driven by RAX operational needs | 18:56 |
| ttx | notmyname: it's your call ultimately.. but that would be my concern. | 18:56 |
| ttx | notmyname: gtg, we can discuss this more tomoroow | 18:56 |
| ttx | tomorrow* | 18:57 |
| notmyname | I agree that there are concerns with growing a community. however, the advantage of time-based releases is that you actually release (feature-based releases tend to wait to release). in this case, we're actually trying to increase the release cycle. just seems ironic to me ;-) | 18:58 |
| notmyname | (I don't think this is an issue that makes or breaks a community) | 18:58 |
| notmyname | ttx: let's chat again in the morning (central). I'm pretty busy all afternoon before the openstack meeting(s) | 19:06 |
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| sandywalsh | annegentle, devcamcar are your "needs fixing"'s still required? https://code.launchpad.net/~sandy-walsh/nova/dist-sched-diagrams/+merge/63748 | 19:48 |
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| annegentle | sandywalsh: looks like you addressed everything I asked about, thanks. Should I be embarrassed that comstud found all the spelling/grammar fixes and I didn't? :) | 19:56 |
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| comstud | sorry, i'm a grammar nazi | 20:10 |
| sandywalsh | annegentle, heh, I think I just got to them before you could review | 20:10 |
| comstud | :) | 20:10 |
| annegentle | comstud: :) I do have a tshirt that says "I'm the grammarian about whom your mother warned." | 20:13 |
| comstud | haha | 20:13 |
| comstud | i like it | 20:13 |
| creiht | I had a job once where I had to print out any email that I was about to send, which would be marked up in red ink, and I would have to correct before it could be sent | 20:13 |
| annegentle | creiht: oh dear lord | 20:14 |
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| creiht | yeah, can't believe I worked there for 8 years | 20:15 |
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| annegentle | sandywalsh: lol | 20:29 |
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| openstackjenkins | Tarmac: - fixes bug that prevented custom wsgi serialization | 20:34 |
| notmyname | build #1000 seems kinda significant | 20:35 |
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| devcamcar | sandywalsh: looking now | 21:09 |
| devcamcar | sandywalsh: lgtm, hit the good ol' approve button | 21:11 |
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| openstackjenkins | Tarmac: Illustrations now added to Distributed Scheduler documentation (and fixed up some formatting) | 21:24 |
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| mtaylor | just in case anyone was wondering- sometimes grabbing the handle of a really hot pan hurts | 21:36 |
| mtaylor | and | 21:36 |
| mtaylor | makes it slightly harder to type for a while | 21:36 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: owww. Bet you won't do that again. | 21:37 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: you'd think - but I have done this at least once before | 21:37 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: so essentially, I'm a slow learner | 21:37 |
| mtaylor | (in my defense, the stove top wasn't on - so my brain did not imagine it would be hot - but the broiler vents out the back of the stovetop... and that _was_ on) | 21:38 |
| mtaylor | bother | 21:38 |
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| sandywalsh | devcamcar, thx! | 21:59 |
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