Thursday, 2016-03-10

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jgriffithHa!00:16
jgriffithI now have Freenode, HipChat, Slack succesfully going into my IRC client!00:16
patrickeastoo nice00:16
jgriffithgood-bye all you crappy coms windows cluttering my desktop00:16
patrickeasti tried to get our slack to go to mine... didn't work :(00:17
jgriffithpatrickeast: yeah, you have to enable the irc-gateway option00:17
jgriffithI was luck that folks were happy to set it00:17
patrickeastahh gotcha00:17
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sheelsmcginnis: thanks.. for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28529300:26
sheelit ll open gates for my patch:)00:26
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openstackgerritIce Yao proposed openstack/cinder: Add judgement of backing-up volume status  https://review.openstack.org/28887501:09
openstackgerritJoshua Huber proposed openstack/cinder: Pass new volume size when cloning (blockbridge)  https://review.openstack.org/29093401:15
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openstackgerritWilson Liu proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Mask chap password in log  https://review.openstack.org/27159501:50
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guyHi everyone, in volume metadata, can I store anything in key/value?03:15
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jgriffithsigh04:52
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openstackgerritAMIT KUMAR proposed openstack/cinder: Setting the value of limit argument from the request.  https://review.openstack.org/29053305:58
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/cinder: Remove unused logging import and LOG global var  https://review.openstack.org/26147206:00
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openstackgerritAMIT KUMAR proposed openstack/cinder: Setting the value of limit argument from the request  https://review.openstack.org/29053306:03
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/29101706:28
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openstackgerritliuke proposed openstack/cinder: Huawei: Creating hypermetro failed in the remote pool  https://review.openstack.org/28263306:54
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openstackgerritAbhishek Kekane proposed openstack/cinder: volume upload-to-image fails for iso disk-format  https://review.openstack.org/28760607:18
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user_8767Allah is doing07:27
user_8767sun is not doing Allah is doing07:27
user_8767moon is not doing Allah is doing07:28
user_8767stars are not doing Allah is doing07:28
user_8767planets are not doing Allah is doing07:28
user_8767galaxies are not doing Allah is doing07:28
user_8767oceans are not doing Allah is doing07:28
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user_8767mountains are not doing Allah is doing07:29
user_8767trees are not doing Allah is doing07:29
user_8767mom is not doing Allah is doing07:29
user_8767dad is not doing Allah is doing07:29
user_8767boss is not doing Allah is doing07:29
user_8767job is not doing Allah is doing07:30
user_8767dollar is not doing Allah is doing07:30
user_8767degree is not doing Allah is doing07:30
user_8767medicine is not doing Allah is doing07:30
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user_8767cuwtomers are not doing Allah is doing07:30
user_8767customers are not doing Allah is doing07:30
user_8767you can not get a job without the permission of allah07:31
user_8767you can not get married without the permission of allah07:31
user_8767nobody can get angry at you without the permission of allah07:31
user_8767light is not doing Allah is doing07:32
user_8767fan is not doing Allah is doing07:32
user_8767businessess are not doing Allah is doing07:32
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user_8767america is not doing Allah is doing07:32
user_8767fire can not burn without the permission of allah07:32
user_8767knife can not cut without the permission of allah07:33
user_8767rulers are not doing Allah is doing07:33
user_8767governments are not doing Allah is doing07:33
user_8767sleep is not doing Allah is doing07:33
user_8767hunger is not doing Allah is doing07:33
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user_8767food does not take away the hunger Allah takes away the hunger07:34
user_8767water does not take away the thirst Allah takes away the thirst07:34
user_8767seeing is not doing Allah is doing07:34
user_8767hearing is not doimg07:34
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user_8767hearing is not doing Allah is doing07:35
user_8767seasons are not doing Allah is doing07:35
user_8767weather is not doing Allah is doing07:35
user_8767humans are not doing Allah is doing07:35
user_8767animals are not doing Allah is doing07:35
user_8767the best amongst you are those who learn and teach quran07:36
user_8767one letter read from book of Allah amounts to one good deed and Allah multiplies one good deed ten times07:36
user_8767hearts get rusted as does iron with water to remove rust from heart recitation of Quran and rememberance of death07:37
user_8767heart is likened to a mirror07:37
user_8767when a person commits one sin a black dot sustains the heart07:37
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/cinder: Remove unused logging import and LOG global var  https://review.openstack.org/26147207:44
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openstackgerritAlon Marx proposed openstack/cinder: IBM XIV/DS8K: Implement Replication v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28888007:55
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openstackgerritPeter Wang proposed openstack/cinder: VNX: Update replication for v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28513908:01
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openstackgerritBéla Vancsics proposed openstack/cinder: Use assert(Not)Equal/Less(Equal)/Greater(Equal)  https://review.openstack.org/28459709:03
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openstackgerritAbhishek Kekane proposed openstack/cinder: DB purge command fails due to FK constraint  https://review.openstack.org/29108310:18
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openstackgerritPeter Wang proposed openstack/cinder: VNX: Update replication for v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28513910:23
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openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Set expected_attrs in volume obj to what we join  https://review.openstack.org/29056911:51
robcresswellrhagarty: Left some more comments inline. I'd like a couple more improvements to be made if possible, but otherwise its looking really good.11:56
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robcresswellrhagarty: Sorry, on this patch I meant https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257630/11:56
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dulekgeguileo: Hi, please take a look at my replies on 290569. Am I missing something with the joinedload of volume_type.extra_specs?12:35
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geguileodulek: My bad, I misread the code12:41
openstackgerritAlon Marx proposed openstack/cinder: IBM XIV/DS8K: Implement Replication v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28888012:45
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openstackgerritDanny Al-Gaaf proposed openstack/cinder: DRBD driver: resize volume if cloned image is larger  https://review.openstack.org/29115012:48
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dulekgeguileo: Okay, but let me fix the other comments you've mentioned - I believe these are worth fixing. :)12:52
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geguileodulek: Ok, since they were already there I didn't want to downvote for that :-)12:53
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zigoGuys, I have an issue with building Cinder backport for Jessie: https://mitaka-jessie.pkgs.mirantis.com/job/cinder/25/console13:01
zigoDoes anyone know what's going on with this failed unit test?13:02
zigoIt looks like the create operation worked, but not the delete.13:03
dulekzigo: Ah, it's about notifications.13:03
zigodulek: Could you expand on this? :)13:04
dulekzigo: I'm not sure, but isn't it possible this is kind of race condition related to mocking config options?13:04
zigodulek: Oh, like if I restart a build, it may work?13:04
* zigo relaunches a build13:05
dulekzigo: I think so. Or you may try also to set test runner to single thread.13:05
zigodulek: That's the default unless I do --parallel in the "testr run", no?13:06
zigo(which is my case)13:06
zigoLet's wait for this 2nd build, if it fails again, I'll disable this test.13:06
dulekzigo: In master it defaults to number of cores on the machine I think.13:06
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zigodulek: tox.ini seem to use ostestr, which I'm not (I'm simply using testr init / testr run when building the Debian package).13:08
dulekzigo: Okay, let's see the second build results.13:08
zigoSo I believe I'm using a single thread.13:08
zigoYup.13:08
zigoIt will take a while to get in my build queue, as I've scheduled other stuff as well.13:09
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openstackgerritLisaLi proposed openstack/cinder: Host selection in backup service  https://review.openstack.org/29024813:14
openstackgerritLisaLi proposed openstack/cinder: Host selection in backup service  https://review.openstack.org/29024813:16
openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Add volume_type to volume object expected_attrs  https://review.openstack.org/29056913:19
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openstackgerritEvgeny Antyshev proposed openstack/cinder: vzstorage: add ploop volume format support  https://review.openstack.org/26224613:28
openstackgerritEvgeny Antyshev proposed openstack/cinder: Use versionedobjects in remotefs.py  https://review.openstack.org/26155813:28
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openstackgerritAlon Marx proposed openstack/cinder: IBM XIV/DS8K: Implement Replication v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28888013:38
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openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/cinder: SMBFS: fix parsing volume type extra specs and metadata  https://review.openstack.org/26224913:46
openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/cinder: SMBFS: fix parsing volume type extra specs and metadata  https://review.openstack.org/26224913:48
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flip214would someone like to be the second +2 for a DRBD patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28780714:16
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openstackgerritBharath kumar proposed openstack/cinder: Remove the image-volume db entry if cloned_volume() fails If the cloned_volume() functions fails the db entry will happen ,even if already exists in the db.So removing db cache entry from the db if it exists , whenever a call to create the image-volume ca  https://review.openstack.org/29120414:27
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openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/cinder: SMBFS: fix parsing volume type extra specs and metadata  https://review.openstack.org/26224914:44
openstackgerritBharath kumar proposed openstack/cinder: Remove the image-volume db entry if cloned_volume() fails  https://review.openstack.org/29120414:45
zigodulek: Indeed, the 2nd build of Cinder passed without failure. I'm therefore filing a bug, reporting this unit test as failing non-deterministically.14:46
zigohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/155566814:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1555668 in Cinder "test_create_delete_volume fails non-deterministically" [Undecided,New]14:49
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openstackgerritRonen Mesonzhnik proposed openstack/cinder: Support backup import on another Storage database  https://review.openstack.org/15396915:00
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openstackgerritRonen Mesonzhnik proposed openstack/cinder: Support backup import on another Storage database  https://review.openstack.org/15396915:05
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krotschecksmcginnis: Hey, has RC1 been cut yet? Do I need to port https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286795/ to a different branch?15:11
smcginniskrotscheck: Not yet. That will be next week.15:11
smcginniskrotscheck: We need that in M, right?15:12
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krotschecksmcginnis: Yep.15:13
krotschecksmcginnis: Thanks - I'll see if I can solicit some more cores.15:13
smcginniskrotscheck: K, thought so. Thanks!15:13
smcginnisxyang1, DuncanT, and other cores: Take a peek if you have time: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286795/15:14
xyang1smcginnis: sure15:14
krotscheckxyang1: Thanks :)15:14
smcginnisxyang1: Thank you. :)15:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/29101715:18
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mtaninodulek: Hi, are you there?15:23
mtaninodulek: I've updated this based on your comments. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274204/ Thanks :)15:23
dulekmtanino: I've seen that, need to take a closer look.15:24
mtaninodulek: Thank you :) anytime if you have a chance.15:25
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scottdaCrap! I didn't get approved for travel to Austin.15:32
smcginnisscottda: Seriously?!?15:32
scottdayup15:32
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smcginnisscottda: Hmm, anyone I can ping to change minds?15:32
scottdaI might go anyway, on my own dime.15:32
smcginnisMan...15:33
scottdasmcginnis: Thanks for the offer, but I don't think that would help. Just let me know if anyone is hiring :)15:33
smcginnis:)15:33
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smcginnisI hear there's a storage company down the road that's pretty involved in OpenStack.15:33
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scottdaYeah, but I've heard their tech lead is a real tyrant.15:34
smcginnisYour coworkers might be a pain to work with, but they don't seem too bad. :D15:34
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flip214would some core please add another review to smcginnis' one at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287807? Thanks a lot.15:38
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shyhCan some one please help me with a  review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28611615:56
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flip214Thanks a lot!15:59
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mtaninoHi, Would any core please review the policy bug fix? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274204/ Want to push this to RC-1. Thanks!16:09
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openstackgerritThomas Bechtold proposed openstack/cinder: Add apiclient to requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/29127116:10
geguileosmcginnis: ping - missing release note?16:10
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smcginnisgeguileo: Where's that?16:17
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openstackgerritDanny Al-Gaaf proposed openstack/cinder: DRBD driver: resize volume if cloned image is larger  https://review.openstack.org/29115016:37
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geguileosmcginnis: Sorry, was in a meeting16:41
geguileosmcginnis: I don't see a release note for the feature where you can force delete a volume with the snapshots16:41
geguileosmcginnis: And I don't know if it's missing or I'm looking in the wrong place16:42
smcginnisgeguileo: That one merged, right? There's not one in current master for it.16:43
eharneyoops, i didn't reno that one i think16:43
geguileosmcginnis: I cannot find it16:43
geguileoeharney: Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!16:43
smcginniseharney: I thought that was your, but having trouble tracking it down.16:43
smcginnisOh, derp16:44
smcginnishttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/264982/16:44
smcginnisEasy enough to add one now.16:44
smcginnisYou want to grab that Eric? Or one of us can.16:44
eharneysmcginnis: sure i'll do it16:45
smcginniseharney: Thanks!16:45
smcginnisgeguileo: Good catch. I don't doubt we have others missing, but hopefully we've captured most of the big ones.16:46
geguileoI was reviewing them to see if we had missed something else16:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: LeftHand: Create cloned volume didn't honor size  https://review.openstack.org/29089016:46
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geguileoand I don't remember any other one getting fixed, except the API races that we have removed16:47
shyhCan some one please help me with a  review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28611616:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Storwize: Update replication to v2.1  https://review.openstack.org/28748316:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Cleanup Mitaka release notes  https://review.openstack.org/29010016:48
smcginnisshyh: Can you push up an update with the trivial fixes I pointed out? That might help.16:49
eharneysmcginnis: are we doing another client release for mitaka?  the cascade delete option missed the last one (trying to figure out what to write about that)16:53
smcginniseharney: No, I think we're too late for M. But we can get one soon after feature freeze is over.16:53
eharneysmcginnis: no problem16:53
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openstackgerritMitsuhiro Tanino proposed openstack/cinder: Permit volume type operations for policy authorized users  https://review.openstack.org/27420416:59
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Moved CORS middleware configuration into oslo-config-generator  https://review.openstack.org/28679516:59
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shyhThanks sean, will do17:00
smcginnisshyh: Thanks!17:00
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Add volume_type to volume object expected_attrs  https://review.openstack.org/29056917:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: DRBD: Policy-based waiting for completion  https://review.openstack.org/28780717:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Switch failover-host from rpc call to cast  https://review.openstack.org/29085717:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Show qos_specs_id based on policy  https://review.openstack.org/24165917:02
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Add release note for delete volume with snaps  https://review.openstack.org/29130217:03
eharneysmcginnis: geguileo: release note ^17:03
smcginniseharney: Thank you17:04
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geguileoeharney: Thanks17:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: NetApp: volume resize using clone fails with QoS  https://review.openstack.org/28991017:08
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Add release note for delete volume with snaps  https://review.openstack.org/29130217:10
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openstackgerritMichael Price proposed openstack/cinder: Implement CHAP Authentication for E-Series Driver  https://review.openstack.org/24699017:16
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jgriffithsmcginnis: ping17:20
smcginnisjgriffith: Hey!17:21
jgriffithsmcginnis: yo!17:21
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jgriffithsmcginnis: when you were looking at drivers for the extend on clone thing....17:21
jgriffithsmcginnis: did you happen to get a feel for how many did NOT implement extend?17:21
jgriffithsmcginnis: I'm asking because I'm wondering if it's better/easier to put the logic up in the manager, and just call the driver methods from there17:21
smcginnisjgriffith: I would say the majority did not. Probably ~75%.17:22
jgriffithsmcginnis: as opposed to have everybody patch their driver17:22
jgriffithOhhh!17:22
jgriffithnever mind then :)17:22
smcginnisALl of the remotefs ones, many others.17:22
jgriffithalthough that would raise the exception17:22
smcginnisjgriffith: I do think it would be easier to put the logic in the manager.17:22
smcginnisjgriffith: I think I had suggested that.17:22
jgriffithsmcginnis: I think you did yes17:22
smcginnisjgriffith: The one drawback would be optimization.17:23
jgriffithsmcginnis: but I was on a tangent about using capability reporting at the API layer17:23
jgriffithsmcginnis: hmmm... good point17:23
smcginnisIn that if for some storage it is easier to just create the new volume at the new size.17:23
jgriffithsmcginnis: that actually would be an issue for someone like me17:23
smcginnisRather than clone, then extend.17:23
jgriffithok.. never mind :)17:23
smcginnisBut I think we could support that.17:23
smcginnisWe would probably have to change the interface slightly though.17:23
jgriffithyeah17:23
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smcginnisPass in the new desired size, check a result to see if the new volume is that size, if not call extend.17:24
jgriffithI guess either way it's not something we should be mucking with at this stage of the release17:24
smcginnisjgriffith: Yeah, probably not.17:24
jgriffithsmcginnis: Oh... I like that idea17:24
jgriffithsmcginnis: best of both17:24
smcginnisjgriffith: On the plus side, many of the filed bugs have already been fixed or patches proposed.17:24
jgriffithWell in that case!!!  Excellent!17:24
smcginnisSince many have obviously been "broken" from day 1, it's at least an improvement. ;)17:25
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SwansonI fixed it so keep it the way it is.17:28
jgriffithSwanson: :)17:31
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Swansonjgriffith, Looks like the reviews for init time shenanigans hit on your alternative suggestion.17:32
jgriffithuh oh17:33
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jgriffithsigh.... ok17:34
jgriffithI'll change it again17:34
Swansonjgriffith, just going to move it to the init rpc bit?17:35
jgriffithyeah17:35
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Swansonjgriffith, that kibosh the model_update idea in the future or does that just require more selling to get it in than we have before rc1?17:37
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jgriffithSwanson: probably kaboshes it17:37
jgriffithSwanson: but frankly I think in N it would be good to clean up that spaghetti17:38
jgriffithindependent of this whole rep thing17:38
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Swansonjgriffith, seems reasonable.  Or make a 4th init function and just go for it.17:38
jgriffithSwanson: grrrrrrrrr17:39
jgriffithSwanson: why not, everybody else is doing it :)17:39
Swansoneverybody gets a trophy init function!  We're all winners!17:40
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jgriffithLOL17:40
hemnaI'm working on a patch to the 3PAR drivers to get extend to work17:42
hemnait's a PITA17:42
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openstackgerritBharath kumar proposed openstack/cinder: Remove the image-volume db entry if cloned_volume() fails  https://review.openstack.org/29120417:49
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/os-brick: Update reno for stable/mitaka  https://review.openstack.org/29133017:58
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Update reno for stable/mitaka  https://review.openstack.org/29133218:00
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e0neeharney: hi. I've got a question about your patch https://review.openstack.org/178262 - RBD Thin Provisioning stats18:03
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e0neeharney: TBH, I didn't test it yet but18:04
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e0neeharney: will 'rbd du' command from ceph infernalis (http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/release-notes/#v9.2.0-infernalis) will help us to fix this bug?18:04
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openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Move replication_status update to service.py  https://review.openstack.org/29091718:11
jgriffithSwanson: dulek patrickeast ^^18:11
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dulekjgriffith: Looking now. :)18:13
jgriffithgeguileo: I'm curious, what are your objections to replication status being in the service table?18:14
jgriffithgeguileo: given that replication is designed to be a "service based" feature... why would that seem wrong?18:15
jgriffithgeguileo: do you have an alternative suggestion?18:15
geguileojgriffith: Maybe I'm misunderstanding something18:15
patrickeasthaha, guess the other init method won out after all18:15
jgriffithpatrickeast: :)18:15
geguileojgriffith: We don't have replication on scheduler or backups, right?18:16
jgriffithpatrickeast: you must have psychic powers18:16
patrickeastlol18:16
jgriffithgeguileo: no, but those services aren't replicatable (at least not right now)18:16
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jgriffithgeguileo: they certainly could be made to be though18:16
geguileoSo why should that code be in the generic service?18:16
jgriffithgeguileo: it would follow the same design pattern... redundant services18:16
jgriffithgeguileo: because it's an attribute of the service18:17
jgriffithgeguileo: it's just an extension of disabled really18:18
geguileojgriffith: Yeah, but I think those fields should never had made it that table in the first place18:18
patrickeastim wondering if maybe once tiramisu comes around and we try and re-introduce more fine grained replication things if we wont just end up with a replications table or something and a column that might just say 'volume' 'group' 'c-vol' etc18:18
geguileojgriffith: Because they only apply to c-vol18:18
patrickeastthat has the status and all that junk in there18:18
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jgriffithgeguileo: ok, and again... I'll ask; how would you address the problem then?18:18
jgriffithgeguileo: would you make it a foreign key?18:18
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geguileojgriffith: Another table that contains replication status for each service and only c-vol nodes adds data in there?18:19
dulekjgriffith: -1, sorry, but if I'm not missing something there's one problematic codepath.18:19
dulekgeguileo's point seems valid to me. But it's not catastrophic IMO that we have it in services.18:20
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openstackgerritRyan McNair proposed openstack/cinder: Lazy load a project quotas's default values  https://review.openstack.org/27930418:21
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geguileodulek: Well, catastrophic to me is that we have those fields in the DB, this would pale in comparison, I agree18:22
geguileodulek: But I don't think that's good enough reason if there's an alternative18:22
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geguileodulek: If the alternative is a lot more complicated then I would say it's ok that it goes in Service18:22
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jgriffithgeguileo: I"m sorry but I just don't see your side of this at all18:25
jgriffithgeguileo: it's fine to criticize something, but if you can't offer an alternative solution that's a bit unfair18:25
geguileojgriffith: Ok, no big deal18:25
jgriffithgeguileo: well, actually it is kind of a big deal18:26
jgriffithgeguileo: for me in particular18:26
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geguileojgriffith: Wouldn't dulek's suggestion work?18:26
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jgriffithgeguileo: I didn't catch that, lemme scroll back18:27
geguileojgriffith: No, the one in the comments of the patch18:27
geguileoNot here18:27
jgriffithgeguileo: Regarding service.py?18:27
jgriffithgeguileo: I completely agree with him on that and changed it18:27
geguileojgriffith: So now we are disagreeing only if those fields should go in the DB or not?18:28
dulekjgriffith: I guess geguileo means the most recent one.18:28
jgriffithdulek: I'm confused, we'd never get to that save if the service was not found18:28
jgriffithgeguileo: yes18:28
geguileojgriffith: I thought we were talking about the code going in service.py18:29
dulekjgriffith: Whoops, did I've not noticed something.18:29
jgriffithdulek: I'll add a reraise on that18:29
jgriffithdulek: nahh... we're good18:29
jgriffithgeguileo: no.. sorry18:29
e0nesmcginnis: just a formality, please, one more +1 from you for https://review.openstack.org/287115 - not it passes CI18:29
jgriffithgeguileo: I was talking about your statment that it shouldn't be in the DB model (Service table)18:29
jgriffithgeguileo: at least I thought that's what you were saying18:29
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geguileojgriffith: Well, if 2 out of 3 services don't require it...18:29
jgriffithgeguileo: Ok, so that is what you're saying :)18:30
geguileojgriffith: I was saying both things18:30
jgriffithsigh18:30
geguileoThe service.py part and the DB part18:30
jgriffithgeguileo: so why do we have AZ in there then?18:30
geguileoBut the DB part was mostly a rant at this point...18:30
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jgriffithgeguileo: yes, and from a fellow ranter I'd like to understand better :)18:30
jgriffithgeguileo: or at least try and persuade you :)18:30
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geguileolol18:31
jgriffithgeguileo: rpc version is another one that isn't necessarily applicable to all of them18:31
geguileojgriffith: AZ was before my time18:31
geguileojgriffith: rpc version is applicable to them all18:31
jgriffithgeguileo: good... because it doesn't really *do* anything anyway :)18:31
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jgriffithgeguileo: alright... I'll make you a deal18:32
geguileojgriffith: And I'm moving those 2 version fields out of that table in my job-distribution patches18:32
jgriffithgeguileo: I'll create a new replication table when N opens up, and introduce backrefs to the service entry.18:32
jgriffithgeguileo: or... have a separate c-vol table18:32
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jgriffithgeguileo: oh... well then, my work here i sdone18:33
jgriffithis18:33
jgriffith:)18:33
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openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Move replication_status update to service.py  https://review.openstack.org/29091718:35
eharneye0ne: no, we don't need to call shell commands to gather RBD stats.  the patch/reviews already outlines how to do it18:35
e0neeharney: I believe, it will be librdb call using python rbd module18:36
eharneye0ne: the patch already does the required librbd calls... i just need to plug the result into one more place.  so i'm not sure what you mean18:36
e0neeharney: probably, I need to take a closer look on your patch18:37
e0neeharney: I ping you once, I'll have more time to test it18:37
jgriffithgeguileo: looking at your patches I don't see where you moved this?  I'm curious what you came up with here?18:38
geguileojgriffith: I'm talking about the rpc and obj versions18:39
geguileojgriffith: I moved them to the nodes table18:39
geguileojgriffith: But since we have rolling upgrades I cannot delete them in the same release as I move them18:39
jgriffithgeguileo: hmmm... nodes table....18:39
jgriffithgeguileo: well when that lands it would certainly be a logical place18:40
jgriffithgeguileo: so this one:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286599/18:41
bharathhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/291204/18:41
geguileojgriffith: Yes18:42
jgriffithgeguileo: but then you'd make the same argument, that data there is only used in 1 out of 3 of the nodes we have right?18:42
geguileojgriffith: You mean the rpc version info18:42
geguileojgriffith: That's used in all 3 services18:42
jgriffithgeguileo: I'm also unclear on why you need a separate table for that?18:42
geguileojgriffith: For the version or for the nodes?18:43
jgriffithgeguileo: sure, but why not just keep it in the service table?18:43
geguileojgriffith: Because you will be upgrading your nodes one by one18:43
jgriffithgeguileo: I mean... sure; multiple services on same node maybe... but so?18:43
geguileojgriffith: And they will have different versiosn18:43
jgriffithgeguileo: and if they're on different nodes, that just works by service no?18:44
jgriffithgeguileo: service/host18:44
geguileojgriffith: The pinning is done by the whole cloud18:44
jgriffithgeguileo: I don't think I'm communicating well; perhaps I should just let this go for now.  Maybe we can walk through it in Austin?18:45
geguileojgriffith: Yeah, probably I'm a little bit dense right now18:45
geguileoas it's the end of the day for me18:45
geguileoIt's almost 8pm here...18:45
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jgriffithgeguileo: nah... history has shown these sorts of talk-past events are on me :)18:46
geguileolol18:46
jgriffithgeguileo: to be clear, I'm not being argumentative or anything, truly trying to understand your viewpoint and the code you have going here18:46
jgriffiththats' all18:46
jgriffithgeguileo: I'm actually interested :)18:46
geguileojgriffith: That's how I read it18:46
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jgriffithgeguileo: good enough then18:47
geguileojgriffith: And it's always good to talk it with someone else, because sometimes I see things I missed :-)18:47
jgriffithalright, well I'll quit harassing you for now18:47
geguileojaja18:47
geguileottyl18:48
jgriffithgeguileo: good night18:48
geguileojgriffith: Thanks, and have a nice day18:48
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jgriffithdulek: LOL... yes, I just noticed I didn't change the commit header18:49
openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Move replication_status update to init_with_rpc  https://review.openstack.org/29091718:50
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openstackgerritKaitlin Farr proposed openstack/cinder: Specify key algorithm and size for create_key  https://review.openstack.org/25150318:58
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dulekdiablo_rojo: I've answered your yesterday's question on review. I think at least.19:15
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Added more options while uploading volume as image  https://review.openstack.org/23061719:16
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hemnapatrickeast, ping19:36
patrickeasthemna: hola19:36
hemnapatrickeast, question for you related to the create_cloned_volume fiasco19:36
patrickeasthaha19:36
patrickeasthemna: sure, whats up?19:36
hemnaregarding the image cache code.  When create_cloned_volume is called, is the cloned volume size the same as the image (cached volume) ?19:37
hemnabefore calling extend_volume ?19:37
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smcginnishemna: You mean the fs on the clone?19:38
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patrickeastso19:38
hemnasmcginnis, no19:38
hemnaI mean the volume object being passed into create_cloned_volume19:38
patrickeastlemmie pull up the code to make sure i'm thinking of the spot you are19:38
patrickeastbut if you mean the cache hit path19:38
patrickeastwhen we clone from src19:39
patrickeastthe source volume is image sized, and the new volume is requested size19:39
hemnayah the cache hit path.19:39
patrickeastand iirc we don't explicitly do a extend19:39
hemnaok crap19:39
patrickeastwe only do extend on the cache miss path19:39
hemna*sigh*19:39
patrickeastfor the original volume19:39
patrickeastlet me double check19:39
patrickeastbut i doubt i would have done it any other way19:40
hemnaI guess that makes sense19:40
patrickeast... since my driver does the extend on create from source :P19:40
hemnaand why ours works.  if we call extend on our cloned volume, it would fail today.19:40
openstackgerritDanny Al-Gaaf proposed openstack/cinder: DRBD driver: resize volume if cloned image is larger  https://review.openstack.org/29115019:40
hemnabecause our volume is still busy being created.19:40
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hemnaI've had to completely rework our create_cloned_volume code entirely.19:40
hemna:(19:40
patrickeast:(19:41
hemnaok I'll enable the cache and test it out.19:42
hemnaI just was curious before I started testing it.19:42
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patrickeasthemna: yea so this call https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/flows/manager/create_volume.py#L63119:43
patrickeasthemna: those volumes are definitely not the same size19:43
patrickeastimage_volume is minimal image size19:44
hemnaok, so volume (which is the destination) is the user requested size ?19:44
jgriffithpatrickeast: wouldn't be very useful otherwise19:44
patrickeastyep19:44
hemnaok19:44
patrickeastjgriffith: +119:44
hemnawell, I'm just super confused about it all19:44
jgriffithpatrickeast: it would mean your cache could ONLY be a volume of N size19:44
hemnaI thought we were calling extend_volume() in the workflow somewhere.19:45
patrickeastjgriffith: haha yea exactly19:45
hemnaI guess not.19:45
patrickeasthemna: we do19:45
patrickeasthemna: on cache miss, when we are creating the image volume19:45
* hemna is confused.19:45
patrickeasthemna: thats how we get the minimal sized one19:45
hemnaso only on a miss ?19:45
patrickeasthemna: we create a volume thats the smallest possible for the image, do the dd of image data onto it, then extend it19:45
hemnacreate, extend, mount, copy data, etc.19:45
patrickeasthemna: but before the extend19:45
hemnaok19:45
jgriffithhemna: create, mount, copy then extend19:46
patrickeasthemna: we clone19:46
patrickeasthemna: and the small one that isn't extended becomes the cache entry19:46
jgriffithsave the wasted dd time that way19:46
patrickeastexactly19:46
hemnaok19:46
hemnaI'll test this out and see how much I screwed things up.19:46
jgriffithzeroing those blocks on a 250GiB volume for a 200MiB image is a bit expensive19:46
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patrickeastso, what changed that you are concerned about breaking?19:47
patrickeastjust that you guys extend in your clone now?19:47
patrickeastor that you don't extend in your clone?19:47
hemnapatrickeast, we/I never looked at volume['size'] in create_cloned_volume.19:47
patrickeastahh ok19:47
hemnaas did many drivers19:47
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patrickeastso yea you are probably actually getting minimally sized volumes instead of the requested size19:47
hemnaso we are going to lose a lot of our efficiencies in the clone.19:48
jgriffithhemna: the caching stuff is optional19:48
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jgriffithhemna: you certainly don't have to implement it at all19:48
hemnaas our array can't modify the destination volume, while the copy is ongoing.19:48
patrickeastyea same problem you had originally for the cache, right?19:48
hemnaso I'm having to put wait loops in create_cloned_Volume now to make sure it's finished.19:48
hemnayah it just meant our cached clones were incorrect size19:49
hemnawell anything created with create_cloned_volume was potentially the incorrect size.19:49
patrickeastyea19:49
hemnaunless the sizes were the same...19:49
hemnaASS19:49
patrickeastany command with --source-volid (or whatever its called)19:49
hemnayup19:50
hemnawah wah wah...19:50
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hemnawe were broked for a while19:51
hemnaoopsie19:51
patrickeastthe funny part is that with like what 20 drivers doing the wrong thing no one noticed?19:52
patrickeastclearly its a often used code path19:52
smcginnis>2019:52
Swansoncustomer work arounds are going to break19:53
hemnayah :(19:54
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sbezverkHello, I am looking for some docs fo iscsi/lvm communication api. Anybody has any pointers?20:07
openstackgerritGerald McBrearty proposed openstack/cinder: Return volume_type extra specs based on policy  https://review.openstack.org/29140520:10
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openstackgerritGerald McBrearty proposed openstack/cinder: Return volume_type extra specs based on policy  https://review.openstack.org/29140520:12
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openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: EMC VMAX - SnapVX and other snapshot improvements  https://review.openstack.org/27988120:20
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openstackgerritRyan McNair proposed openstack/cinder: Disallow quota deletes if default under usage  https://review.openstack.org/29141720:35
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jgriffithpatrickeast: Swanson one thing to keep in mind is most distros are a year behind20:42
jgriffithpatrickeast: Swanson a lot of the stuff we see and fix in a cycle isn't even going to hit anybodys environment for another few months20:43
jgriffithsbezverk: can you be a little more specific?20:43
Swansonjgriffith, Good point.20:43
jgriffithSwanson: it's a gripe of mine, we close stable for backports before it really even sees production20:43
jgriffithSwanson: distros are getting faster now though so this should start to be a bit more reasonable in the coming year20:44
Swansonjgriffith, I think we saw someone last week or the week before looking for juno help.20:44
jgriffithSwanson: yeah :)20:44
jgriffithI still get that fairly often, and the occasional Havana or even Essex just last month20:45
sbezverkjgriffith ideally I would like to have docs for api calls used by cinder to communicate with iscsi driver..20:45
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jgriffithsbezverk: hmm... yeah, that's something we need to work on :)20:45
jgriffithsbezverk: best I can offer right now is the code itself in cinder/volume/targets/driver.py20:45
jgriffithsbezverk: that will give you the base class anyway... you can diverge from there into the various tgt drivers20:46
openstackgerritMitsuhiro Tanino proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Don't reset volume status when resetting migration status  https://review.openstack.org/28873220:47
sbezverkjgriffith thank you, it is a start :-)20:50
jgriffithsbezverk: better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick :)20:50
openstackgerritMitsuhiro Tanino proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Don't reset volume status when resetting migration status  https://review.openstack.org/28873220:52
sbezverkjgriffith one more question, iscsid and tgtd seems like providing the same service, what was the reason cinder driver uses iscsi?20:52
jgriffithsbezverk: they're different actually20:52
jgriffithsbezverk: there's initiator side and target implementation20:52
jgriffithsbezverk: so for backends OTHER than the reference LVM the target stuff is irrelevant20:53
jgriffithsbezverk: but iscsid is still needed to do things like iSCSI connect so we can attach on the Cinder node20:53
jgriffithsbezverk: for what it's worth almost ALL of the distros forget to add this to their Cinder nodes20:53
jgriffith:(20:54
jgriffithsbezverk: and then things fail when you try and do 'create volume from image' and things like that20:54
sbezverkjgriffith I was refering to the target side.. the reason I brought it up, is iscsid cannot be easily containerized, but tgtd works fine20:55
jgriffithsbezverk: right, we're talking about the same thing :)20:55
jgriffithsbezverk: iscsid == opne-iscsi daemon20:55
jgriffithopen20:55
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jgriffithsbezverk: that's the one hang up I have with containerizing c-vol service20:55
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bswartzjgriffith: why?20:56
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sbezverkjgriffith I was trying to understand how difficult to substitute open-iscsi by tgtd20:56
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bswartz+1 for containerizing c-vol20:57
jgriffithbswartz: I can't make initiators work in a container... because of the ip faking/bridging20:57
bswartzjgriffith: IMO c-vol should not touch data20:57
guitarzantime for a fully userland initiator?20:57
jgriffithguitarzan: +120:57
smcginnisjgriffith: Have you tried lately? I thought Docker 1.9 had some improvements there.20:57
bswartzjgriffith: data-touching operations belong in a different service, for reasons I mentioned at midcycle20:57
smcginnisThough I haven't looked in to it enough.20:57
jgriffithbswartz: so then how do you do image-->volume, volume-->image and backup?20:57
bswartzjgriffith: cinder-data service or somesuch20:58
jgriffithbswartz: oh... sure, but then you just kick the can so to speak20:58
jgriffithbswartz: or what I think I remember you saying was a worker-instance maybe?20:58
bswartzat least that can can be managed separately20:58
jgriffithbswartz: yeah, I hear ya20:58
jgriffithsmcginnis: so no, and yes I think 1.10 actually may help me solve it20:58
jgriffithsmcginnis: but no, I have had zero time to mess with it since last fall20:59
smcginnisToo much to do. Not enough coffee to do it.20:59
jgriffithsmcginnis: besides, there are now whole projects in OpenStack that are far better at that whole thing than I :)20:59
smcginnis;)20:59
sbezverkjgriffith I build docker based on 1.10 with tgtd running and it also interacts with lvm backend20:59
sbezverkjgriffith it can share iscsi targets, how would you suggest it could be tested if this would work with cinder?21:00
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openstackgerritJon Bernard proposed openstack/cinder: RBD: remove duplicate clone test  https://review.openstack.org/29142521:02
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aorourkejgriffith, ping21:10
aorourkejgriffith, replication :) .... patrickeast Swanson21:11
smcginnisNever heard of it.21:11
aorourkeIf you attempt to fail a host back but the backend is not ready and it returns an error, there is currently no way to keep the backend in a failed-over state.21:12
aorourkeCurrently we have an UnableToFailOver exception we can raise where we can keep it in enabled state. I think we need something like UnableToFailBack where we can keep it in failed-over state. Thoughts?21:12
aorourkesince we support failing back already...21:12
aorourkei will make the patch, just wanted to get some thoughts first21:13
patrickeastwait, what happens right now? if you raise an exception it should go to an error state, right?21:13
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patrickeastor it goes back to the un-failed-over and original backend_id?21:13
aorourkepatrickeast, it gets stuck in failing-over state if you raise an exception21:13
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aorourkepatrickeast, and there is no way to get out of that21:13
aorourkepatrickeast, even in error state, I don't think there is a way to get out of that either21:14
patrickeastright21:14
patrickeasti had a spec for that around somewhere21:14
* patrickeast takes a note to go find that21:14
aorourkepatrickeast, i think it would be nice to just keep it in failed-over state. then we can try again later after the issue is fixed21:14
aorourkepatrickeast, mdenny filed a bug on this https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/155581421:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1555814 in Cinder "cinder.volume.manager ValueError: incomplete format exception in cheesecake on Failing back to default backend" [Undecided,New]21:15
aorourkethere it is ^21:15
openstackgerritHelen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: EMC VMAX - SSl connection is not picking up values  https://review.openstack.org/28093321:15
patrickeastaorourke: so, it seems like maybe the bug is that the unable to failover should leave things in the failed-over state, or put it to an error state, if we are trying to fail back21:15
aorourkepatrickeast, exactly21:15
SwansonI don't let you try to fail back.  First failover "test" will be a customer's last.21:15
jgriffithsbezverk: so the only question is getting open-iscsi (intiator) stuff to work21:15
aorourkepatrickeast, leaving it in a failed-over state would be ideal21:15
jgriffithsbezverk: you'd need to create a target and make sure you can attach it to the container... NOT the container host but the container itself21:16
aorourkepatrickeast, well we leave it up to the driver21:16
SwansonSo keeping it in that state would seem to be peachy.21:16
jgriffithsbezverk: this is where things fell apart for me21:16
patrickeastaorourke: yea i'm sold, lets get a patch up for it21:16
aorourkepatrickeast, sounds good21:16
smcginnishemna: ping21:17
jgriffithaorourke: you might be raising the wrong exception21:17
jgriffithaorourke: if you raise a "VolumeDriverException" it sets the status to error21:17
Swansonam I wrong in thinking nothing is actually merging out of gate?  15 items at 0 minutes to go...21:18
aorourkejgriffith, right. but i dont see a way to keep it in failed-over state21:18
hemnasmcginnis, yough21:18
aorourkejgriffith, because it should not go back to enabled21:18
smcginnishemna: Hey, is this implemented?21:18
smcginnishemna: I know there was one that went in for iSCSI.21:18
smcginnishemna: But I didn't see one for FC.21:18
jgriffithaorourke: Huh?21:18
jgriffithaorourke: whatever, sounds like you and patrickeast have it figured out21:18
aorourkejgriffith, the issue I am having is it the backend is not ready, there is no way to keep the replicaiton-status in a failed-over state21:19
aorourkeok21:19
jgriffithaorourke: my contention is that that SHOULD put it in an error state21:19
hemnais what?21:19
hemnasorry, I haven't been following the channel much today21:19
jgriffithaorourke: we issue a command, you can't comply... that's an error21:19
smcginnishemna: Doh, copy paste fail. ;)21:20
smcginnishemna: Hey, is this implemented? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/brick-scsi-wwn21:20
hemnahehe ok21:20
jgriffithaorourke: not a "ok, I'll just stay like I am and pretend you never asked me to do anything"21:20
hemnaI thought I had missed something21:20
smcginnishemna: No, I did. ;)21:20
aorourkejgriffith, well we already have exception.InvalidReplicationTarget where we do not throw it in an error state21:20
hemna:)21:20
jgriffithaorourke: which is based of of an InvalidRequest which is different than "I don't feel like doing what you asked right now"21:20
jgriffithor "can't do what you asked"21:21
jgriffithaorourke: but like I said, up to you guys21:21
hemnasmcginnis, yah I think that's in there.21:21
jgriffithaorourke: it makes for a kinda crappy API IMHO though21:21
sbezverkjgriffith: not sure I undersatnd the difference, could clarify? I thought container will not own the target, the host will own it, container is just a pieces of software, interface between a user and the resource offered by host.21:21
smcginnishemna: OK, thanks.21:21
bswartzI would love to see a webserver return that21:21
bswartzHTTP 500 I don't feel like doing what you asked right now21:22
smcginnisbswartz: Kind of like the github 404 page. ;)21:22
jgriffithsbezverk: yes, and that's the problem when you try and attach it "in" the container so to speak21:22
jgriffithsbezverk: know what I mean?21:22
jgriffithsbezverk: I think there are some things added in 1.10 as smcginnis mentioned that might make this doable, but as of last fall I couldn't see a way to make it work21:22
jgriffithsbezverk: you need a virtual networking stack IN the container21:23
bswartztumblr has a good 404 page21:23
sbezverkjgriffith: yes, but I do not get it why it is required to attach in in the container?21:23
bswartzah crap they got rid of it21:23
smcginnisbswartz: Awesome21:23
jgriffithbswartz: they rotate them :)21:23
smcginnisbswartz: Oh, something better before?21:23
bswartzoh no there it is21:24
jgriffithhttp://log.maniacalrage.net/post/3942771810/tumblrs-new-error-page-view-full-size-look-i21:24
smcginnisHah!21:24
jgriffithsmcginnis: bswartz if you google "tumblr 404 images" you'll get a whole slew of things to chuckle at21:24
smcginnis"Tumblr isn't a CMS. It's a vehicle for getting us into celebrities' parties."21:25
jgriffithsmcginnis: https://www.google.com/?espv=2#tbm=isch&tbs=rimg%3ACQh_19iQQW9eHIjj9CaUPbPkYwkjS5M6YbNiUoTC-rg89aK5_19x3FLLNNH-rDGXdC5yI5O5Ar5vpz-X8FeNRa2v_1ifCoSCf0JpQ9s-RjCEZfpEtNK46xqKhIJSNLkzphs2JQRnWqWR7ltmZIqEgmhML6uDz1orhEfwjIj0wM9pSoSCX_13HcUss00fEXOSaPo_1XpgmKhIJ6sMZd0LnIjkRVjd0O9IriCoqEgk7kCvm-nP5fxEgTw1FivP89ioSCQV41Fra_1-J8EUEw5zQY058i&q=tumblr%2040421:25
jgriffithsmcginnis: LOL21:25
jgriffith"404 error blow me" LOL21:26
smcginnis404, Deal with it.21:27
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jgriffitheharney: smcginnis https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291302/221:29
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jgriffitheharney: smcginnis from an outsider reading release notes it's my opinion there may be a few unanswered questions there21:30
sbezverkjgriffith: would you be interested to check the setup with the docker container and tgtd, to help identify if something is missing or if it still has issues you hit in the past?21:30
jgriffithsbezverk: sure21:30
jgriffithsbezverk: you have a docker-compose or dockerfile?21:30
smcginnisjgriffith: 404 PTL not here21:30
jgriffithsmcginnis: HA!!!!21:30
jgriffithNice!!!21:30
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sbezverkjgriffith: well, it is a future part of kolla, so it is a mixture of Docker file and ansible yml..21:33
jgriffithsbezverk: ahh... fair enough21:33
jgriffithsbezverk: shoot me a link or whatever and some insructions and I'll give it a go21:33
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Use 'is None' rather than 'is_null()' in matches  https://review.openstack.org/29144821:35
sbezverkjgriffith: sure, as soon as it is packaged, right now it seats in my local workspace, I will ping you. Also could do a live demo if it is ok with you..21:37
jgriffithsbezverk: sounds good21:37
jgriffithsbezverk: if you want to set up a live demo maybe we could schedule something for tomorrow mid-morning perhaps?21:37
jgriffithsbezverk: I'd love to check it out and chat a bit21:37
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: Allow recovering from an invalid failback command  https://review.openstack.org/29144921:37
jgriffithsbezverk: I've had some issues with Kolla that maybe you could help me with :)21:38
haplo37Hi, i use on my openrc OS_ENDPOINT_TYPE='internalURL' but when i use the command cinder service-list for example, the endpoint use by this command is public and not internal. Do you know how to force internal in my openrc ?21:38
sbezverkjgriffith: sounds like a plan, what is your time zone?21:39
jgriffithsbezverk: Mountain...21:39
jgriffithso it's 14:39 here currently21:39
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haplo37I find it : export CINDER_ENDPOINT_TYPE='internalURL' :-)21:44
jgriffithmtanino: do we want to allow non-admins to manage things?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274204/21:44
jgriffithmtanino: what I mean is... is that patch really something that we want to do?21:44
jgriffithmtanino: I guess since it's still tied to policy it's cool21:45
jgriffithmtanino: just wanted to make sure I was thinking this through completely21:45
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jgriffithmtanino: never mind, I convinced myself :)21:47
mtaninojgriffith: This patch allowes volume type operation such as special user ex. "storage_type_admin", don't enable all of non admin users21:47
mtaninooh!21:47
jgriffithmtanino: so all you have to do with me is ignore me for a few minutes... I'll come around :)21:47
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guitarzannext patch gets rid of admin and goes all policy21:48
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mtaninoguitarzan:  Does the patch go to something wrong direction??21:51
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ntpttrquick question about api microversions - when I create a unit test to try and test out a change for microversion 3.1, it creates an APIVersionRequest object, and sets its minor and major versions here https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/api/openstack/api_version_request.py#L94-L9921:55
ntpttrbut match.group(1) and match.group(2) are always integers, so 3.1 will never be used21:55
ntpttrthis is making my test not go down the path it should, which is the v3.1 microversion of the API call21:56
ntpttrand on the doc page here, it outlines at the bottom that you should be putting in the microversion you want when initializing the api_version, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/devref/api_microversion_dev.html#when-do-i-need-a-new-microversion21:56
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ntpttrin the example it's 3.6, but that seems pointless since the '.6' part of that will never be used - is this a bug or am I missing something here?21:57
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patrickeastaorourke: jgriffith: i was just lookin at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291449/1 when it occurs to me that you could just throw a InvalidReplicationTarget for 'default' if you aren't ready to failback yet21:58
patrickeastsince it would, at that time, be an invalid target21:59
patrickeastand we could change the handler for that exception to just leave the status where it started, instead of reset to enabled21:59
patrickeastso if it was failed-over it stays there21:59
aorourkepatrickeast, i looked at that as well, but then you go back to 'enabled' state, which really is not accurate21:59
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aorourkepatrickeast, ah good point21:59
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patrickeastaorourke: i tend to agree with jgriffith's point about that unabletofailback exception going to an error state22:00
patrickeastideally we could then do something and recover from the error states... but thats a challenge for another day22:01
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aorourkepatrickeast, would you be open to allowing InvalidReplicationTarget to just preserve the original state?22:03
aorourkepatrickeast, i think it is changed to 'failing-over' state at the API level though...22:03
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patrickeastaorourke: hmm, well we could just peek at the secondary_backend_id and do the 'correct' state based on that22:04
patrickeastaorourke: i'm not really too opposed to just putting the status into an error if it wasn't ready22:06
patrickeastthe idea being that an admin would have made sure things were ok beforehand22:06
scottdantpttr: This bug is a duplicate: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/155581722:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1555817 in Cinder "'Matches' function returns error when used how it's documented" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Nate Potter (ntpttr)22:06
aorourkepatrickeast, ideally yes they would have made sure things were back up and running22:06
scottdaAnd your fix will break the API22:06
ntpttrscottda: okay, so what should be passed in to the matches function when it reccomends on this page to use strings? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/devref/api_microversion_dev.html#when-do-i-need-a-new-microversion22:07
ntpttrpassing in strings creates an error22:07
scottdaYes. I've filed a bug and posted a patch for the fix...22:09
scottdahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/155033722:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1550337 in Manila "api_version_request.matches does not accept a string or None" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Scott DAngelo (scott-dangelo)22:09
ntpttrscottda: okay, sorry I didn't see the duplicate - I'll abandon the patch22:09
scottdahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/285293/22:09
ntpttrscottda: thanks for the info22:09
scottdantpttr: No problem. Let me know if you need help, I'd be glad to walk you through how it works.22:10
scottdantpttr: BTW, I'm on vacation next week :)22:10
ntpttrscottda: sounds good - so I should probably make my current patch dependant on yours so that my passing in strings will work22:11
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scottdantpttr: Yup. That should work22:11
scottdaHave you posted your patch yet? Which is it?22:11
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ntpttrscottda: it's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230617/ - I'm working on adding microversions to it since it updates the parameters you can pass in to upload_volume_to_image22:13
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ntpttrscottda: adding the microversion was simple enough following the documentation, just working on updating the tests now22:14
scottdaOK, cool. I'll keep an eye on your patch22:14
scottdantpttr: Look at the unit tests for my fix to the matches() string issue for ideas to use in your unit tests. Let me know if you need help.22:15
ntpttrscottda: is this the first patch to implement a microversion in Cinder then? I was confused at first because it didn't look like there were any! I guess it is a relatively recent thing22:15
ntpttrscottda: okay thanks22:16
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aorourkepatrickeast, jgriffith, this isn't the right approach. i abandoned the patch. in a future release we can talk about recovering from an error state22:16
scottdantpttr: This is up for review and competing with you for first use of a microversion: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278605/22:16
jgriffithaorourke: ?22:16
aorourkejgriffith, it should be treated as an error22:17
jgriffithaorourke: you mean your patch to just leave it in failed-over22:17
patrickeastaorourke: i just put a comment on there22:17
aorourkeyes22:17
jgriffithaorourke: cool, but I do agree with you that there's a problem there22:17
patrickeasti think making invalidreplicationtarget know how to do the right thing would fix this nicely22:17
scottdantpttr: See that ^^ for info on your patch as well (i.e. need to update MAX_API_VERSION, etc.)22:17
jgriffithpatrickeast: hmm.. that's an idea22:17
aorourkepatrickeast, that's an easy fix22:18
ntpttrscottda: actually I do have a question - did you see my question a couple of minutes ago in this channel?22:18
ntpttrscottda: I got all of the MAX_API_VERSION bumps and things like that from the doc, it was nice and clear22:18
aorourkejgriffith, if secondary_backend_id is default we can put it in failed-over, otherwise enabled. all in the invalidreplicationtarget exception22:18
jgriffithpatrickeast: aorourke so something else to consider...22:18
scottdaI did, but I did not understand. Maybe PM me to keep the noise here down.22:18
jgriffithpatrickeast: aorourke the failover being a toggle seems to create some challenges/confusion22:18
jgriffithpatrickeast: aorourke should we consider adding a failback in N?22:19
jgriffithpatrickeast: aorourke isolate the two and hammer them out that way?22:19
aorourkejgriffith, i think we should add a failback API/command in N22:19
jgriffithaorourke: I'm down with that22:19
aorourkejgriffith, it would be more straight forward22:19
jgriffithaorourke: I fully intended this to 'grow' in subsequent releases22:20
patrickeastjgriffith: yea we could add some of that raspberry sauce on there, but i'm not sure if these kind of problems would really go away22:20
patrickeastor if we just have two methods with them22:20
jgriffithpatrickeast: well, they won't go away... but they'll be easier to isolate and at least try to standardize on22:20
patrickeastjgriffith: true22:20
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aorourkepatrickeast, jgriffith in the mean time, do we want to go with invalidreplicationtarget knowing how to fix this?22:22
aorourkeeither way, UnableToFailOver or InvalidReplicationTarget needs to be changed in order to save the replication_status of the host.22:22
aorourkeI just noticed they are not being updated and get stuck in a 'failing-over' state when you raise them22:22
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jgriffithaorourke: thinking....22:23
* jgriffith sees and smells smoke22:23
jgriffithaorourke: I guess I'm not seeing how that's really different from what we just discussed?22:24
jgriffithaorourke: maybe I'm confused22:24
jgriffithaorourke: OH22:24
jgriffithaorourke: I'm missing the service.save22:24
jgriffithaorourke: well shit, that's no bueano22:25
aorourkejgriffith, yes, that needs to be fixed either way22:25
jgriffithaorourke: that certainly needs fixed22:25
jgriffithaorourke: I do prefer the states are left as they are currently22:25
jgriffithaorourke: but if you and patrickeast have a strong opinion on changing those that's ok with me22:25
aorourkejgriffith, meaning if invalidreplicationtarget is raised preserve the state?22:25
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jgriffithaorourke: yes... sorry, that wasn't clear22:26
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Add release note for delete volume with snaps  https://review.openstack.org/29130222:27
jgriffithaorourke: it's just unfortunate because now with patrickeast 's change that we don't wait for the response we have no good way to notify a caller that this "didn't work"22:27
aorourkejgriffith, patrickeast ok so in except InvalidReplicationTarget just keep the state as is? if when that was raised the state was 'failed-over' keep it like that, 'enabled' keep it enabled. that is not how it currently works though22:27
jgriffithaorourke: which is why I leaned towards any time the driver can't fulfill a request it should be an error22:27
patrickeastehh we didn't really let them know much as-is22:27
patrickeastyou pretty much have to check the logs to see what happened22:28
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jgriffithpatrickeast: the exception would bubble back up I think..22:28
jgriffitherr..not22:28
jgriffithwell, it should have :)22:28
patrickeasthaha22:28
patrickeastmoot point now ;)22:28
jgriffithpatrickeast: true-statement22:28
jgriffithpatrickeast: aorourke regardless, I was just trying to point out the issue I have with the proposals here22:29
jgriffithpatrickeast: aorourke my ultimate preference for *now* would be if the driver can't do it for whatever reason we go to an error state for rep22:29
jgriffithpatrickeast: aorourke otherwise there's no real way for a caller to know what happened or why22:29
aorourkejgriffith, even if the target is invalid?22:30
jgriffithpatrickeast: aorourke yeah, kinda... but I'm not that steadfast on this22:30
jgriffithaorourke: I'm just trying to point out what I perceive as an issue.  We can just live with it, but it is an issue IMO22:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Active_backend_id wrong type  https://review.openstack.org/29080622:31
aorourkejgriffith, it is an issue, yes, because currently if you specify an invalid target to failover-host, you have to check the logs to see what happened22:31
aorourkejgriffith, the command returns instantly and gives no errors22:31
patrickeastyea... i guess we have to weigh which is the less evil, silent failures that require looking through logs (and for drivers to log reasonable explainations) or getting stuck in a terminal state22:31
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jgriffithpatrickeast: aorourke right to both of you22:32
jgriffithpatrickeast: aorourke but I don't have a reset-state in there right now so less evil may be to ignore it :(22:33
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Added more options while uploading volume as image  https://review.openstack.org/23061722:34
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aorourkepatrickeast, jgriffith well i will put up a patch that adds service.save() to UnableToFailOver and InvalidReplicationTarget. I can add the fix that patrickeast proposed to preserve the state replication_status when InvalidReplicationTarget is raised if we are ok with that22:39
jgriffithaorourke: patrickeast I'm willing to go with what the two of you decide.22:40
jgriffithaorourke: patrickeast as long it's not what we had before :)22:41
aorourkejgriffith, it would be an addition to except exception.InvalidReplicationTarget where we would check secondary_backend_id to put replication_status back to whatever it was before the call (either failed-over or enabled) instead of leaving it in 'failing-over' state22:43
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jgriffithaorourke: ok, all I really care about right now is fixing the missing "service.save()"22:43
aorourkejgriffith, yes that absolutely needs to get done22:44
jgriffithaorourke: honestly that's the most important part in my mind22:44
aorourkejgriffith, definitely22:44
jgriffithaorourke: what happens after that I don't think is going to be ideal no matter what for M... but that's ok22:44
jgriffithaorourke: we need to stop trying to release something perfect at the expense of building a house of cards :)22:44
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openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: Fix up failover_host exceptions to preserve states  https://review.openstack.org/29147522:48
aorourkejgriffith, tell me how that ^ looks. I can remove the other stuff aside from service.save() if we want22:48
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jgriffithaorourke: that seems like a good solution for where we're at22:49
jgriffithaorourke: thanks!!22:49
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patrickeastsry got side tracked with foosball22:51
patrickeastaorourke: yea i'm on board with that as a fix for M22:51
jgriffithpatrickeast: that reminds me... the keg should have been refreshed :)22:52
* jgriffith goes to see what beer we have today :)22:52
patrickeastoo22:52
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jungleboyjhemna: Ping?23:08
hemnayough23:08
jungleboyjhemna: Silly question oh master of brick.23:08
hemnashoot23:08
jungleboyjIf I resize a VM with volumes attached do the volumes need to be reattached afterward the resize completes?23:08
hemnaso....23:09
hemnabrick does have extend capability23:09
hemnafor attached volumes23:09
jungleboyjhemna: Wait.23:09
hemnabut Cinder's API won't allow it FWIW23:09
jungleboyjhemna: Not talking about resizing the volume.23:09
hemnaok23:09
jungleboyjTalking about resizing the VM.23:09
hemnahrmm23:09
hemnawhat is resizing a vm mean ?23:10
jungleboyjMeans changing the CPU or RAM allocated to the VM.23:11
hemnaok23:11
jungleboyjIt appears to shut down the VM and migrate it.23:11
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jungleboyjI am seeing an issue in Icehouse *gagging* where they can't detach the volume after they do a resize.23:11
hemnaas long as you don't nuke the volumes from the host and/or remove the volume entries in the domain, you should be ok23:11
hemnaicehouse23:11
hemnaheh23:11
openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Added more options while uploading volume as image  https://review.openstack.org/23061723:11
hemnaI don't think brick existed in icehouse23:11
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hemnafwiw23:12
jungleboyjhemna: No, I don't think it did.23:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack/cinder: Correcting thin provisioning behavior  https://review.openstack.org/27540823:15
hemnajungleboyj, I'm sure that's an ancient libvirt as well23:17
smcginnisjungleboyj: Sounds like something on the compute side of things.23:19
hemnathat's what I'm thinking23:20
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jungleboyjsmcginnis: Yeah, that is what I am thinking.23:22
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jungleboyjsmcginnis: hemna Now all their volumes have disappeared.23:24
* jungleboyj wants to scream23:24
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smcginnisjungleboyj: Well, problem solved then. :P23:25
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hemnajungleboyj, does the host still have the volumes in /dev/disk/by-path ?23:25
hemnaalso, does the domain xml still have the volumes ?23:26
hemnamaybe the editing of the domain xml for the 'resizing' nuked em?23:26
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jungleboyjOoops, using the wrong tenant.23:27
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hemna:)23:28
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Added more options while uploading volume as image  https://review.openstack.org/23061723:48
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Added more options while uploading volume as image  https://review.openstack.org/23061723:52
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mc_nairanyone know if there's Tempest tests out there for volume migration?23:57
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jungleboyjmc_nair: I think that might be one of the 'ToDos'23:59
patrickeasti thought someone was working on that23:59

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