Wednesday, 2014-04-02

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openstackgerritSergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Refactor murano functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/8443506:03
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openstackgerritSergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Refactor murano functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/8443507:14
katyaferventHi all !07:17
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openstackgerritSergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Refactor murano functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/8443507:50
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openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Implement upload call to the repository API  https://review.openstack.org/8409907:59
openstackgerritSergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Refactor murano functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/8443508:10
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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano-api: Resolve issues with circular dependency  https://review.openstack.org/8380109:35
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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano-api: Implement upload call to the repository API  https://review.openstack.org/8409909:45
openstackgerritRuslan Kamaldinov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Added explicit db-sync command  https://review.openstack.org/8410809:53
openstackgerritSergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-tests: Add db creation  https://review.openstack.org/8468110:05
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openstackgerritSergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Refactor murano functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/8443510:22
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openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Implement repository API GET methods  https://review.openstack.org/8469210:58
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sergmelikyanGuys let's choose our extension for packed application for catalog11:08
sergmelikyan1) .application11:09
sergmelikyan2) .app11:09
sergmelikyan3) .package11:09
sergmelikyan4) .pkg11:09
sergmelikyan5) .zip11:09
sergmelikyan6) .mrn11:09
sergmelikyan7) .mrp11:09
sergmelikyanLet's the voting begin!11:09
dteselkinWhere is startvote command &11:10
dteselkin?11:10
dteselkin:)11:10
sergmelikyanit's does not work here11:10
* tsufiev votes for .package11:10
* dteselkin votes for .pkg and .package11:11
tsufievas we're no longer constrained by MS-DOS 8.3 name format11:11
* sergmelikyan .package11:11
katyaferventkatyafervent, votes for package11:13
IgorYozhikov7+11:13
ruhelet me test it11:17
ruhe#startmeeting murano-sincup11:18
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr  2 11:18:16 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ruhe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.11:18
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.11:18
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'murano_sincup'11:18
ruhe#endmeeting11:18
openstackMeeting ended Wed Apr  2 11:18:32 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)11:18
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano_sincup/2014/murano_sincup.2014-04-02-11.18.html11:18
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano_sincup/2014/murano_sincup.2014-04-02-11.18.txt11:18
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano_sincup/2014/murano_sincup.2014-04-02-11.18.log.html11:18
ruheturns out we can have meetings and votes :)11:18
ruhei give my vote for .package11:19
stanlagunruhe: say #startvote pelase11:19
ruhestanlagun: ok11:20
ruhe#startvote how should we name extension for package application for catalog? application, app, package, pkg, zip, mrn, mrp, abstain11:21
ruhehmm, i guess we need to start the meeting11:22
ruhe#startmeeting murano-sincup11:22
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr  2 11:22:20 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ruhe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.11:22
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.11:22
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'murano_sincup'11:22
ruhe#startvote how should we name extension for package application for catalog? application, app, package, pkg, zip, mrn, mrp, abstain11:22
openstackBegin voting on: how should we name extension for package application for catalog? Valid vote options are application, app, package, pkg, zip, mrn, mrp, abstain.11:22
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.11:22
ruhe#vote package11:22
ruhe#vote invalid-option11:23
openstackruhe: invalid-option is not a valid option. Valid options are application, app, package, pkg, zip, mrn, mrp, abstain.11:23
stanlagunwhere is .murr option?11:23
stanlagun#vote package11:23
ruhestanlagun: it wasn't on the original list. i can restart the voting if you want11:23
katyafervent#vote package11:25
akuznetsova#vote package11:25
smurashov#vote package11:25
ruhesergmelikyan, tnurlygayanov, tsufiev, dteselkin IgorYozhikov ^^11:26
dteselkin#vote package11:26
tsufiev#vote package11:26
tsufievruhe: sergmelikyan seems to be on PR now11:26
katyaferventI can start to replace tar.gz by zip today11:28
katyaferventStan, did you wrote in blueprint why does this change needed?11:29
katyafervent*did you write11:29
ruhewell, i guess we have enough votes11:30
ruheany objections to end the vote?11:30
IgorYozhikov#vote mrp11:31
stanlagunkatyafervent: no. This is not a change. We haven't released version with .tar.gz yet11:33
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openstackgerritSergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Remove nonactual tests  https://review.openstack.org/8469911:36
katyaferventyes, but we have in specification information about tar.gz Why do we not consider using zip before?)11:37
openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Implement repository API GET methods  https://review.openstack.org/8469211:38
stanlagunduring discussions we always called it zip. I don't know who rote tar.gz in specification (btw, where it is?). Lets change spec before we released it11:38
tnurlygayanov+1 for mrp11:38
tnurlygayanovlet's use separate format for packages, user should remember that this package should have predefined format11:39
katyaferventtnurlygayanov, use vote to count your voice11:39
tnurlygayanov#vote mrp11:39
ruhe#endvote11:44
openstackVoted on "how should we name extension for package application for catalog?" Results are11:44
openstackmrp (2): tnurlygayanov, IgorYozhikov11:44
openstackpackage (7): ruhe, stanlagun, katyafervent, smurashov, akuznetsova, tsufiev, dteselkin11:44
ruhe#endmeeting11:44
openstackMeeting ended Wed Apr  2 11:44:29 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)11:44
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano_sincup/2014/murano_sincup.2014-04-02-11.22.html11:44
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano_sincup/2014/murano_sincup.2014-04-02-11.22.txt11:44
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano_sincup/2014/murano_sincup.2014-04-02-11.22.log.html11:44
ruhe"something.package"11:45
openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Implement repository API GET methods  https://review.openstack.org/8469212:02
ruhewho's going to merge base muranopl classes? stanlagun you?12:16
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openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Add DELETE repository API call  https://review.openstack.org/8470612:18
katyaferventDo we need to keep them separately from packages?12:37
stanlagunruhe: merge with what? they are in master already12:37
ruhestanlagun: indeed :)12:38
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katyaferventdo we need to check for .package extension? I think - no, just for zip format12:42
katyaferventWhat do you think?12:42
katyaferventOr not, we should otherwise why package extension is needed)12:43
stanlagunkatyafervent: Maybe we do need to have filename at all12:43
katyaferventwe need to check format anyway12:44
katyaferventand set proper extension only while downloading packages in UI12:45
katyaferventright?12:45
ruhekatyafervent: i think that extensions name shouldn't be restrictive12:45
stanlagunPublisher upploads zip-compatible data stream. It doesn't metter how file was called on developers notebook12:45
ruhestanlagun: +112:45
stanlagunif filename needed it should be generated on server-side12:45
katyaferventOk, I got you12:46
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openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Replace tag.gz handling by zip  https://review.openstack.org/8472113:05
openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Replace tag.gz handling by zip  https://review.openstack.org/8472113:07
openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Replace tag.gz package fromat to zip  https://review.openstack.org/8472113:20
openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Replace tag.gz package format to zip  https://review.openstack.org/8472113:29
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openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Replace tag.gz package format to zip  https://review.openstack.org/8472113:42
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openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Improve repository API  https://review.openstack.org/8472114:50
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sjmc7morning folks. regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1230574 - am i correct in thinking that theoretically a VM with murano agent credentials could send commands to another VM they don't own?15:09
openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Implement repository API GET methods  https://review.openstack.org/8469215:19
openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Add DELETE repository API call  https://review.openstack.org/8470615:19
openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Improve repository API  https://review.openstack.org/8472115:19
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stanlaguntheoretically yes. This is known issue15:29
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sjmc7ok. is there any objection to proposing a blueprint so that at least credentials can be controlled? if the VM creds can only consume messages it lessens the danger somewhat15:30
ruhesjmc7: hi15:30
sjmc7our security guys will have some issues with it15:30
ruhesjmc7: that's why there is an effort to develop common approach for guest agents. one of the possible solution would be - marconi, which intends to solve all the security issues15:31
stanlagunno objections. The plan was to have authorization using SSL-certificates and ACL for each VM + isolated vhosts for different tenants15:31
sjmc7yep - but marconi's some way from release?15:31
ruhesjmc7: right15:31
ruhemarconi needs about 6 months to become usable by other projects15:32
sjmc7stanlagun - ok, that makes sense. but like ruhe says, it sounds like marconi would be doing the same thing15:32
stanlagunsjmc7: I'd say they want to do the same thing15:32
sjmc7yep15:32
sjmc7if the credentials the API & conductor use are different from the credentials used by VMs, that would allow admins to reduce the risk without too much development effort15:33
stanlagunThat dosn't mean they will succeed. And if they do then we switch to Marconi15:34
sjmc7ok. so is this something you were already planning to do? or is it a wait and see?15:34
stanlagunIdeally each VM should have its own credentials or even better personal SSL certificate for authorization15:36
stanlagunBut this work was not scheduled yet15:36
stanlagunYou can implement it if you want15:36
ruhesjmc7: speaking about marconi - our colleague from sahara team is working with all the projects which need guest agents (murano,solum,sahara and marconi themselves) to identify project needs and develop common approach for guest agents on top of marconi15:36
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sjmc7ok. i'll put a blueprint in to get some of the way there for now15:42
katyaferventGuys, one more please https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84692/16:18
ruhekatyafervent: +2 from tsufiev makes me confident that this patch is good to be merged :)16:19
tsufievruhe: we had some argue with sergmelikyan about should category ids be exposed or not16:19
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tsufievhe thinks it's excessive, I think it's ok for now16:20
ruhetsufiev: i don't see any problem in exposing excessive data while it is secure data16:22
stanlaguntsufiev: why do you want to expose ids? Who cares about IDs?16:23
katyaferventtsufiev, you wil not need to deal with id's outside of Choice view, you will not need to send id's back to server16:25
stanlagunDon't show user anything he has no idea how it can be used16:26
tsufievstanlagun: i plan to use ids in <select> widget - to later pass them from client to server16:31
ruhestanlagun: by "don't show" you mean UI or API?16:31
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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano-api: Implement repository API GET methods  https://review.openstack.org/8469216:54
stanlagunruhe: UI16:59
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ruhestanlagun: it seems that tsufiev wants to use IDs only for API interactions17:08
tsufievruhe: yes, exactly17:09
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sjmc7will murano-repository eventually disappear as its functionality moves into glance?17:34
stanlagunwe will move everything possible to Glance. If nothing will left then repository will disappear. It is too early to predict17:37
sjmc7ok17:37
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ruhesjmc7: if you're speaking about concrete git repo http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/murano-repository it's already deprecated for the 0.5 release, this functioanility is developed as part of murano-api (which will later be renamed to murano)17:38
ruheand further plan is what stanlagun said17:38
sjmc7ok, that's what i thought i was seeing from the recent code changes17:38
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sjmc7the database makes it less necessary17:38
ruhestanlagun: i think it's about time we update README files in all the deprecated repos. what do you think?17:39
ruhemaybe even introduce a commit which removes all the code to avoid any confusion17:39
ruhehistory will be preserved though17:40
stanlagunruhe: we can just remove references to those repositories from launchpad project page17:41
sjmc7it still gets installed into devstack from murano-deployment, too. i can help purge it if you want17:43
openstackgerritStan Lagun proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Collection of MuranoPL instance statistics for billing purposes  https://review.openstack.org/8456417:46
openstackgerritStan Lagun proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: statistics renamed to request_statistics  https://review.openstack.org/8454017:46
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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano-api: Add DELETE repository API call  https://review.openstack.org/8470617:57
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ruhesjmc7: jfyi actual devstack scripts now live in murano-api/contrib/devstack18:01
ruhethose from murano-deployment should be deprecated too18:02
ruhethe reason to move them to the murano-api repository is to have gating job on OpenStack CI infrastructure18:02
ruhewhich is names as gate-murano-devstack-dsvm in Jenkins results on review.openstack.org18:03
ruhe*which is named18:03
openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano-api: UML Generator script  https://review.openstack.org/8334818:18
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openstackgerritStan Lagun proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Collection of MuranoPL instance statistics for billing purposes  https://review.openstack.org/8456418:41
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sjmc7ok, ruhe - i'll mark the ticket invalid, sorry18:41
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sjmc7ruhe - the devstack scripts in murano-api don't set up murano-conductor as far as i can see?18:55
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stanlagunyou mean murano-engine? There is no mot murano-conductor in 0.518:57
sjmc7ah, that would explain it :)18:58
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openstackgerritStan Lagun proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Collection of MuranoPL instance statistics for billing purposes  https://review.openstack.org/8456419:25
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openstackgerritStan Lagun proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Collection of MuranoPL instance statistics for billing purposes  https://review.openstack.org/8456419:53
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openstackgerritStan Lagun proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Collection of MuranoPL instance statistics for billing purposes  https://review.openstack.org/8456420:27
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openstackgerritGeorgy Okrokvertskhov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Add Stats page to UI  https://review.openstack.org/7925521:05
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openstackgerritGeorgy Okrokvertskhov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Add new UI style for App Catalog page  https://review.openstack.org/8489723:31
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