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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Return condition functions based on the filter param https://review.openstack.org/369860 | 02:19 |
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| therve | ramishra, shardy: Added you for backport reviews on newton, for the memory issue | 07:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Squash database patches https://review.openstack.org/386456 | 08:20 |
| flwang1 | hi there, any idea for this error ? | 08:24 |
| flwang1 | feilong@feilong-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-2nd:~$ openstack stack resource mark unhealthy "554463f0-6d71-4662-860c-ec34e2f5554e" "nedqpnt3ekqe" | 08:24 |
| flwang1 | Stack or resource not found: 554463f0-6d71-4662-860c-ec34e2f5554e nedqpnt3ekqe | 08:24 |
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| therve | flwang1, what does openstack stack resource show 554463f0-6d71-4662-860c-ec34e2f5554e nedqpnt3ekqe says? | 08:26 |
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| flwang1 | therve: cool, you're around | 08:27 |
| flwang1 | 554463f0-6d71-4662-860c-ec34e2f5554e is my stack id | 08:27 |
| flwang1 | and nedqpnt3ekqe is one of the resource name, it's an instance | 08:28 |
| flwang1 | anything i missed? | 08:28 |
| therve | Answer my question? :) | 08:28 |
| flwang1 | i got same error | 08:28 |
| therve | OK, some expectation isn't right | 08:29 |
| therve | openstack stack resource list 554463f0-6d71-4662-860c-ec34e2f5554e? | 08:29 |
| flwang1 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/585682/ | 08:30 |
| flwang1 | so the resource is an autoscaling group | 08:31 |
| flwang1 | not a specific instance? | 08:31 |
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| therve | Yes | 08:32 |
| flwang1 | so can i mark an instance under the autoscaling group as unhealthy? and how? | 08:32 |
| therve | I'm not sure it works, but you can try 644c0a65-22d4-41fb-9140-933b183a9100 as a stack ID | 08:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Squash database patches https://review.openstack.org/386456 | 08:33 |
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| flwang1 | therve: ok, let me try | 08:35 |
| flwang1 | therve: cool, seems it works | 08:37 |
| flwang1 | so it's like a nested stacks | 08:37 |
| therve | It is a nested stack | 08:37 |
| flwang1 | yep, i see | 08:38 |
| flwang1 | thanks therve | 08:38 |
| therve | No problem | 08:39 |
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| flwang1 | therve: when running heat stack-update, what's the --template-object? | 08:44 |
| flwang1 | i can understand template-url and template-file | 08:44 |
| therve | flwang1, swift URL | 08:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add properties group resolving to doc generator https://review.openstack.org/369280 | 08:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add properties group schema to resources https://review.openstack.org/369281 | 08:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Implement properties group for Resource https://review.openstack.org/367935 | 08:46 |
| flwang1 | so except stack id, i have to also provide one of them, right? | 08:46 |
| therve | Yep | 08:46 |
| flwang1 | and take a step back, after running mark unhealthy, i would like to get the unhealthy one being replaced, stack-update is the only way to achieve that? | 08:47 |
| therve | I don't know | 08:48 |
| flwang1 | :( | 08:48 |
| therve | Not sure why it matters | 08:51 |
| flwang1 | because i would like to call it in a mistral workflow | 08:52 |
| therve | And you can't use stack-update? | 08:53 |
| flwang1 | so i'm not sure if it's easy to get those info | 08:53 |
| therve | Which info | 08:53 |
| flwang1 | template url/file/object | 08:53 |
| therve | Ah, I see | 08:53 |
| flwang1 | i can pass in the stack id | 08:53 |
| flwang1 | but no idea for template | 08:54 |
| flwang1 | because currently i'm creating the stack with a template file | 08:54 |
| flwang1 | but i don't think it's easy to pass a file to mistral workflow | 08:54 |
| flwang1 | hence why i ask for help :) | 08:54 |
| therve | flwang1, You can pass --existing then | 08:55 |
| flwang1 | cool, that's what i'm looking for, let me try | 08:56 |
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| flwang1 | it just works. now basically i can do it in mistral workflow | 08:57 |
| flwang1 | therve: in case you're interested in, zaneb and i are doing crazy things like this https://github.com/openstacker/zaqar-demo/blob/master/demo/zaqar_demo.py#L319 | 08:58 |
| flwang1 | ceilometer(aodh) + zaqar + mistral + heat = auto_healing | 08:58 |
| therve | Man | 08:59 |
| therve | flwang1, Don't poll!! Zaqar event sinks, please | 08:59 |
| flwang1 | therve: no, definitely no | 08:59 |
| flwang1 | we're using notification | 08:59 |
| therve | No to what? :) | 08:59 |
| flwang1 | no poll | 09:00 |
| therve | flwang1, https://github.com/openstacker/zaqar-demo/blob/master/demo/zaqar_demo.py#L336 | 09:00 |
| therve | Otherwise that's cool :) | 09:01 |
| flwang1 | therve: good to know your feedback | 09:02 |
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| flwang1 | then what's your suggestion to wait heat stack complete? | 09:02 |
| therve | flwang1, https://gist.github.com/therve/9c7c762d3eb81b076be4 | 09:03 |
| therve | Use zaqar+websocket to get events | 09:03 |
| therve | That'll be super nice | 09:03 |
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| therve | flwang1, Same for the mistral workflow, actually, you probably need to know when it's done | 09:03 |
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| flwang1 | therve: haha, i know your script, but i'm just not sure if i should use it at here :D | 09:05 |
| flwang1 | therve: you're absolutely right | 09:05 |
| flwang1 | and i will think about adding this to my demo | 09:05 |
| therve | If the goal is to show case Zaqar, I think it would be awesome | 09:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Return condition functions based on the filter param https://review.openstack.org/369860 | 09:08 |
| flwang1 | therve: yep and i'm going to steal your code | 09:08 |
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| therve | flwang1, Tripleo has examples of using zaqar in mistral workflow for async status, too | 09:09 |
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| flwang1 | therve: i only have 5 days left for this live demo, not sure if i can find it in time ;) | 09:11 |
| therve | OK :) | 09:11 |
| therve | Well let me know if I can help | 09:11 |
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| flwang1 | therve: thank you very much, man | 09:15 |
| flwang1 | i'm happy because you did say you guys are crazy after knowing this idea :D | 09:16 |
| therve | Oh yeah I still believe that :) | 09:17 |
| openstackgerrit | lvdongbing proposed openstack/heat: Update osprofiler about doc https://review.openstack.org/386494 | 09:19 |
| therve | shardy, FTR, I tested tripleo with convergence, and it worked "fine". The caveat being it uses twice as much memory again :/ | 09:19 |
| shardy | therve: heh, yeah that was my experience last time (along with not being able to delete things, which I assume is now fixed) | 09:20 |
| therve | Yeah, I hope so | 09:20 |
| shardy | I think we'll leave it turned off on the undercloud for now | 09:20 |
| therve | Well it'd be nice to have it on for ocata, but it might be a tough goal for a short cycle | 09:21 |
| shardy | therve: I'm not sure if we can justify it unless the memory usage can be made comparable with the legacy mode | 09:22 |
| shardy | for a single node undercloud, it doesn't really buy us much, does it? | 09:22 |
| therve | shardy, Right, that's part of the goal though :) | 09:22 |
| therve | I think it does for error recovery | 09:22 |
| shardy | yep, sure, if we can fix the memory usage I'd be fine with enabling it :) | 09:23 |
| therve | Updates in general would be much nicer too | 09:23 |
| shardy | yup recovering after engine's get killed by the OOM killer would be super helpful :D | 09:23 |
| therve | LOL | 09:23 |
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| flwang1 | therve: after stack update, when creating the new instance to replace the unhealthy one, will the new one follow the affinity/anti-affinity policy? | 09:32 |
| therve | flwang1, No idea | 09:34 |
| flwang1 | therve: in your sample, https://gist.github.com/therve/9c7c762d3eb81b076be4#file-create_stack_complete-py-L89 if the stack is stucking at in progress, what happened? | 09:35 |
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| therve | flwang1, Stack shouldn't get stuck, they timeout at some point | 09:40 |
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| flwang1 | therve: nice | 09:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add function migration to template migrate https://review.openstack.org/373375 | 10:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add migrate version to actual HOT template version https://review.openstack.org/373376 | 10:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add resource keys translation in template migrate https://review.openstack.org/373374 | 10:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Initial implementation template migrate mechanism https://review.openstack.org/370153 | 10:01 |
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| shardy | zaneb, therve: Hey I just wanted to say thanks for all the memory related fixes | 14:28 |
| shardy | http://people.redhat.com/~shardy/heat/plots/heat_20161014.png | 14:28 |
| shardy | looking much, much better now :) | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Squash database patches https://review.openstack.org/386456 | 14:28 |
| zaneb | shardy: I wanted to say it was a pleasure, buuuuuut... ;) | 14:29 |
| shardy | hehe | 14:29 |
| zaneb | that graph looks really good though, thanks! | 14:29 |
| therve | shardy, You're welcome :) | 14:29 |
| therve | Still not fantastic. Let's make convergence great instead :) | 14:29 |
| shardy | Yeah I'm sure there's more we can do, but it's a great improvement | 14:30 |
| shardy | Has anyone tested with python3 to see what difference that makes? | 14:30 |
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| zaneb | shardy: any way we can start generating the data for that graph in the gate? | 14:30 |
| therve | shardy, I was saying the other day, can we try to remove yaql usage in ocata? | 14:30 |
| therve | Or at least reduce it | 14:30 |
| shardy | zaneb: Yes I could run the same script then use gnuplot to output a graph | 14:31 |
| therve | Yes, let's have continuous data points on that issue | 14:31 |
| zaneb | shardy: so I can make something like https://zaneb.fedorapeople.org/tripleo-memory/20161013/memused.png but just for Heat | 14:31 |
| shardy | and maybe even fail the job if we exceed some defined threshold | 14:31 |
| therve | If we could be proactive that'd good | 14:31 |
| zaneb | therve: Make Convergence Great Again? | 14:32 |
| shardy | actually we're already running dstat in CI | 14:33 |
| shardy | I'll look at how we can wire in per-process stats, at least for heat | 14:33 |
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| shardy | and send them to the graphite server we use to measure runtimes | 14:33 |
| zaneb | shardy: yeah, that graph I linked above came from dstat, but that covers the whole system and it's much easier to just look at heat | 14:34 |
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| shardy | yeah, even if we just collected peak memory usage for heat-engine each run, that would probably be enough | 14:34 |
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| zaneb | shardy: the ps.txt data that I generated that new graph from does an ok job at that - it gives you the value at the end of the test, but that's usually close to the peak | 14:36 |
| therve | zaneb, Have convergence not use twice as much memory :/ | 14:36 |
| shardy | zaneb: ack, so some way to aggregate that for passing jobs and trigger on a sudden change would be good then | 14:37 |
| zaneb | therve: does it use twice as much? | 14:37 |
| therve | zaneb, On the basic tripleo deployment, yes | 14:37 |
| shardy | currently we only ever notice when the OOM killer starts killing stuff ;) | 14:37 |
| zaneb | shardy: yeah, you really want to know before that point :D | 14:37 |
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| zaneb | therve: :( | 14:38 |
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| therve | zaneb, It's basically at the legacy level 3 weeks ago | 14:40 |
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| zaneb | therve: I bet if we did the outputs caching thing we could get it down a *lot*. there are actually really efficient ways to do that in convergence | 14:40 |
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| therve | zaneb, Should that be a high priority item? It's fair amount of work, we want to start early to fit it in the cycle | 14:41 |
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| zaneb | therve: I think it probably should be | 14:41 |
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| zaneb | shardy isn't going to do us any favours in reducing the amount of stuff that TripleO does ;) | 14:41 |
| therve | Heh | 14:42 |
| shardy | hehe | 14:43 |
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| therve | shardy, Maybe you missed my question about yaql | 14:49 |
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| shardy | therve: Oh sorry, yeah I missed it | 14:52 |
| shardy | therve: So, yes, I'd like to see us add native heat functions that allow us to remove some, or perhaps all yaql usage | 14:53 |
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| shardy | I see it as a release valve when heat doesn't have the features we need | 14:53 |
| shardy | not really something we want to depend on long term | 14:53 |
| therve | OK, on the same page then | 14:53 |
| therve | Are they many functions that you need? | 14:53 |
| therve | Looks like something like filter, and more merge options? | 14:54 |
| shardy | therve: not that many, but it's stuff like filtering null values from a list | 14:54 |
| shardy | or flattening nested lists/maps | 14:54 |
| shardy | yeah, pretty much flexible ways to filter and merge is all we really need | 14:54 |
| shardy | like, a map_deep_merge function would remove probably half of our yaql usage | 14:55 |
| therve | I think {filter: [some_value, some_iterable]} is a good one | 14:55 |
| therve | Maybe just improve map_merge? | 14:55 |
| shardy | yeah filter sounds good | 14:56 |
| shardy | I've not got a strong opinion on the interface, adding flags to map_merge would be fine | 14:56 |
| shardy | the most common requirement is filtering None values, and merging maps where you want each colliding key to append to a list value | 14:57 |
| shardy | I can raise a spec describing the use-case and we can discuss interfaces there :) | 14:57 |
| therve | Yep for merging that sounds like a good idea | 14:58 |
| therve | I don't know actually if we have a simple way to change map_merge to take options, given the interface | 14:58 |
| therve | For filter, I'll just create a simple light-spec bug if that's fine with you | 14:58 |
| shardy | yup, sounds good, thanks | 14:58 |
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| syjulian | Hi everybody. A couple of folks from my team are interested in implementing api microversions in heat. We have a blueprint and a POC on launchpad. We'd like to hear what you guys think of it | 15:12 |
| syjulian | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/api-microversions | 15:12 |
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| therve | syjulian, You don't *really* have a POC on launchpad | 15:15 |
| therve | You have a POC behind a login I won't create | 15:15 |
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| syjulian | My apologies. It should be public now | 15:16 |
| therve | Ah thanks! I thought it was a weird gitlab thing | 15:17 |
| therve | syjulian, What interest you exactly in micro versions? What changes would you like to see? | 15:18 |
| syjulian | my team is interested in helping openstack projects with microversioning. mainly, it's to help with backwards compatibility | 15:19 |
| therve | Hum, okay | 15:20 |
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| therve | Well we haven't decided if we were going to do micro versions or not AFAIK | 15:22 |
| therve | Personally I don't really see the benefit, and I'd like to have actual API changes in the pipeline to do it. But I'd be happy to be convinced. | 15:23 |
| syjulian | Alright. We were wondering what the team thinks about it... if it's needed, not needed, or nice to have | 15:24 |
| syjulian | *heat team | 15:24 |
| therve | There is a session about it in Barcelona, so hopefully something will get out of it | 15:24 |
| syjulian | Cool. We will be there to further talk about it | 15:25 |
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| strigazi | hi all, I want to use the convergence engine in heat newton. Is the only this option convergence_engine = true what it needs? | 16:39 |
| strigazi | s/the only// | 16:39 |
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| ramishra | strigazi: it's the default, though you can explicitly set it. https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/common/config.py#n186 | 16:50 |
| ramishra | correct link for newton https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/common/config.py?h=stable/newton#n186 | 16:51 |
| strigazi | ramishra, so I have it enabled, since it's not set to false? | 16:53 |
| ramishra | strigazi: yep | 16:53 |
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| strigazi | ramishra, I'm creating a magnum cluster with 100 nodes. And i'm in the part that the nested stacks are being created. In the logs I see that only one engine creates the nested stacks. I have 5 engines | 17:33 |
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| therve | strigazi, Without convergence? | 18:38 |
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| strigazi | therve, I haven't set explicitly convergence = true. but ramishra told me that it is the default | 18:40 |
| therve | It's the default | 18:40 |
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| therve | At any rate, nested stack *resource* can be on one engine, but the stack themselves should spread out | 18:41 |
| therve | If 4 engines don't do anything at all, something is weird | 18:41 |
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| strigazi | probably that's the issue [nested stack *resource* can be on one engine] | 18:45 |
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| strigazi | I think we are stack there, creating the nested stack resources | 18:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tanvir Talukder proposed openstack/heat: Fix for resources stuck in progress after engine crash https://review.openstack.org/386741 | 18:55 |
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| Drago | therve: In heat.conf, the transport url is of the form heat:password@IP:port,heat:password@IP2:port2//heat | 19:27 |
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| Drago | Sounds to me like it is not using rabbit and is instead talking directly to heat APIs | 19:28 |
| Drago | or API to engine | 19:28 |
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| therve | Drago, Where do you see that? | 19:43 |
| therve | You can't talk directly to engines or API | 19:44 |
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| Drago | therve: strigazi was seeing it the cluster we have | 19:57 |
| therve | Drago, I believe it just means that you have some rabbit HA | 19:57 |
| Drago | therve: I think you're right | 19:58 |
| therve | It's possible it's not setup properly though | 19:58 |
| Drago | therve: Just trying to figure out why only one engine is processing nested stacks | 19:58 |
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| therve | Drago, AFAIU oslo messaging will connect to one of those randomly. If replication is not working between the 2 hosts, it may means that the engines can't communicate with each other when connected on the different hosts | 20:04 |
| Drago | therve: The engines will connect randomly? We actually have 5 engines and, apparently, 5 rabbit nodes (containers?), so 5 entries in that list | 20:06 |
| therve | Drago, Yeah there is a random call somewhere to choose the host | 20:07 |
| therve | 5 engines is weird :) | 20:07 |
| therve | Why 5? | 20:07 |
| Drago | therve: We have a large (100+ node) cluster we're performance testing magnum on | 20:08 |
| therve | Drago, But you have heat-engine on 5 different nodes, no? | 20:10 |
| therve | So that's 5 x X number of workers | 20:11 |
| Drago | therve: Yes | 20:11 |
| therve | OK that makes more sense | 20:11 |
| therve | At any rate, I'd try to only have one host in the transport URL to see if it improves things | 20:11 |
| therve | It's not like HA will help you here anyway | 20:11 |
| Drago | therve: It's probably something to do with how OSA sets everything up. Thanks | 20:12 |
| therve | No pb | 20:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tanvir Talukder proposed openstack/heat: Fix resume after check while resource is suspended https://review.openstack.org/362319 | 20:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Get rid of cfn-compatibility in ResourceDefinition.Diff https://review.openstack.org/386849 | 23:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Remove the Resource.parsed_template() method https://review.openstack.org/386850 | 23:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Unit tests: Don't use ResourceDefinition as cfn snippet https://review.openstack.org/386851 | 23:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Remove support for accessing ResourceDefinition like a dict https://review.openstack.org/386852 | 23:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Remove the deprecated Stack.resolve_static_data() method https://review.openstack.org/386853 | 23:36 |
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