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| ramishra | Q_USE_PROVIDERNET_FOR_PUBLIC=True | 04:45 |
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| ramishra | OVS_PHYSICAL_BRIDGE=br-ex | 04:45 |
| ramishra | PUBLIC_BRIDGE=br-ex | 04:45 |
| ramishra | oops! sorry | 04:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/385745 | 05:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | gongysh proposed openstack/heat: Change keyed arg according to keystone code https://review.openstack.org/385758 | 05:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Change credential.create argument https://review.openstack.org/385758 | 06:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Change credentials.create argument https://review.openstack.org/385758 | 06:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Use region_name and interface with session https://review.openstack.org/385790 | 06:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tuan Luong-Anh proposed openstack/heat: Replaced mox with mock in test_sqlalchemy_api.py https://review.openstack.org/385791 | 06:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tuan Luong-Anh proposed openstack/heat: Replaced mox in test_sqlalchemy_api.py https://review.openstack.org/385791 | 07:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tuan Luong-Anh proposed openstack/heat: Replaced mox in test_sqlalchemy_api.py https://review.openstack.org/385791 | 07:13 |
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| ramishra_ | therve: hey around? | 07:40 |
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| therve | ramishra_, Youp | 07:42 |
| ramishra_ | therve: we would need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385758/ reviewed, I think most of the job timeouts happening were due to this, all signaling used to fail. | 07:42 |
| ramishra_ | and stacks used to get stuck IN_PROGRESS | 07:43 |
| therve | All? Wouldn't that make it a permanent failure? | 07:44 |
| ramishra_ | http://logs.openstack.org/18/384718/4/check/gate-heat-dsvm-functional-orig-mysql-lbaasv2/2b8ce3d/logs/screen-h-eng.txt.gz#_2016-10-11_22_28_21_331 | 07:44 |
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| ramishra_ | I suspect this could be handled better, | 07:46 |
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| therve | ramishra_, Why does it pass sometimes? | 07:48 |
| ramishra_ | for example? | 07:49 |
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| therve | ramishra_, I saw the "changed 6 weeks ago" and got confused | 07:51 |
| therve | I guess it got released recently | 07:52 |
| ramishra_ | I think this is happening since 2 days after the new keystoneclient. I didn't mean all timeouts happening till date;) | 07:52 |
| ramishra_ | yep | 07:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tuan Luong-Anh proposed openstack/heat: Replaced mox in test_sqlalchemy_api.py https://review.openstack.org/385791 | 07:53 |
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| skraynev | hi. ramishra_ | 08:01 |
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| skraynev | sorry, I had to miss meeting due to internal all hands | 08:02 |
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| ramishra_ | skraynev: np:) | 08:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Change credentials.create argument https://review.openstack.org/385758 | 08:42 |
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| prazumovsky | therve: take a couple of seconds for this patch, please: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385479/ | 08:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient: Fix help string for osc resource show <resource> https://review.openstack.org/385479 | 09:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Correct deleting of role assignments https://review.openstack.org/360387 | 10:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/385654 | 11:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add properties group resolving to doc generator https://review.openstack.org/369280 | 11:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add properties group schema to resources https://review.openstack.org/369281 | 11:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Implement properties group for Resource https://review.openstack.org/367935 | 11:47 |
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| zaneb | therve: so it looks like these are passing now: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bug/1626675 | 12:58 |
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| zaneb | I didn't change anything, ramishra just rechecked them for us | 12:58 |
| therve | zaneb, Yep! We had an unrelated issue in master apparently | 12:58 |
| zaneb | yeah, that's a relief | 12:58 |
| zaneb | I just triggered the experimental check jobs, will be interesting to see what happens to the memory use | 12:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add properties group resolving to doc generator https://review.openstack.org/369280 | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Implement properties group for Resource https://review.openstack.org/367935 | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christopher Martin proposed openstack/heat-specs: Add new nova flavor resource functionality https://review.openstack.org/381171 | 13:56 |
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| zaneb | therve: another entry in my 'translation rules are a disaster' file: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1633092 | 14:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1633092 in heat "Can't use get_file in OS::Mistral::Workflow" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi) | 14:12 |
| therve | zaneb :/ | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat: Don't resolve attribute pre-storage https://review.openstack.org/368833 | 14:52 |
| therve | shardy, Running early newton tht fails with puppet errors. Is there a way to run with the corresponding puppet-tripleo version? Is it in the overcloud image directly? | 14:54 |
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| shardy | therve: yes it's in the overcloud image, but you can check out local copies of all the modules and override what's in the image: | 14:55 |
| shardy | http://hardysteven.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/tripleo-deploy-artifacts-and-puppet.html | 14:56 |
| shardy | therve: tl;dr mkdir puppet-modules && pushd puppet-modules && git clone $modules | 14:56 |
| therve | shardy, Awesome, thanks | 14:56 |
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| shardy | then use the tripleo-common script upload-puppet-modules to upload to swift | 14:57 |
| shardy | therve: that creates a special environment file which points to the swift container via a tempurl | 14:57 |
| shardy | and a script downloads the modules before puppet runs | 14:57 |
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| therve | Holy crap | 14:57 |
| therve | Pardon my french | 14:58 |
| shardy | therve: be careful when cloning, e.g the directory needs to be "tripleo" for puppet-tripleo, not "puppet-tripleo" | 14:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat: Speed up lbaasv2 test https://review.openstack.org/362054 | 14:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Uvarenkov proposed openstack/heat: Improve validation of res limit for RG https://review.openstack.org/362176 | 15:05 |
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| dprince | zaneb: hi, is this what you are looking for http://paste.openstack.org/show/585628/ | 15:37 |
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| zaneb | dprince: thanks, reading... | 15:37 |
| dprince | zaneb: context is this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347504/ | 15:38 |
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| ramishra | you use that | 15:42 |
| zaneb | dprince: figured that, thanks :) | 15:42 |
| ramishra | oops, wrong channel | 15:42 |
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| zaneb | lol | 15:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/heat: heat-all: all-in-one heat launcher https://review.openstack.org/347504 | 15:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/heat: Add noauth middleware https://review.openstack.org/347505 | 15:49 |
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| therve | dprince, I though using no-auth middleware caused other issues, when we talked about it | 16:05 |
| zaneb | dprince: and after that stack trace the whole process exited, right? that does indeed seem to be demonstrating the behaviour we want | 16:05 |
| dprince | therve: hi, I'm still using it but it is only part of the solution | 16:06 |
| dprince | zaneb: correct | 16:06 |
| zaneb | dprince: ok, I'll switch my vote. thanks for investigating it | 16:06 |
| therve | dprince, What's your plan for the whole solution? :) | 16:06 |
| dprince | zaneb: I would like to bring up something new I've discovered with regards to SIGTERM, vs SIGINT though | 16:06 |
| * zaneb still has not idea how this is working | 16:06 | |
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| dprince | zaneb: SIGINT works great | 16:06 |
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| dprince | zaneb: but heat-engine uses oslo_service and on SIGTERM it intercepts that signal (when it is enabled) | 16:07 |
| dprince | therve: I wrote a fake_keystone API | 16:07 |
| therve | dprince, HTTP API? | 16:08 |
| dprince | therve: it works great | 16:08 |
| dprince | therve: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351351/7/tripleoclient/fake_keystone.py | 16:08 |
| therve | Hum :) | 16:08 |
| dprince | therve: we could package it up as its own project but for now I inlined it for our installer | 16:08 |
| therve | dprince, So you don't need the noauth thing then? | 16:09 |
| dprince | therve: Another idea I'd like to explore is a custom signal handler in heat that avoids Keystone | 16:09 |
| dprince | therve: I actually do need noauth. although I think I could work around it if I had to | 16:09 |
| dprince | therve: I am using noauth and fake_keystone for now (with my prototyping) | 16:09 |
| dprince | therve: could probalby whitle it down to just fake keystone though | 16:10 |
| therve | dprince, Yeah it seems it should be enough | 16:10 |
| therve | It'd be great to limit the amount of code needed for that *very* specific use case | 16:10 |
| dprince | zaneb: the real problem here is Heat uses a mixed back for its various services | 16:10 |
| dprince | zaneb: all the API WSGI stuff doesn't use oslo_service | 16:11 |
| dprince | zaneb: but heat-engine does use oslo_service | 16:11 |
| dprince | zaneb: ideally they would all do the same thing I think | 16:11 |
| dprince | zaneb: still. I think this is a different issue that can be worked on outside the scope of an initial heat-all perhaps | 16:11 |
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| zaneb | dprince: yeah, that would likely make things a lot simpler | 16:12 |
| therve | dprince, I'm still not sure why you don't bootstrap a real keystone with sqlite | 16:13 |
| therve | It sounds it'd be easier to maintain long term than fake_keystone | 16:13 |
| dprince | therve: I can, but keystone is actually pretty heavy | 16:13 |
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| therve | dprince, In what sense? | 16:13 |
| dprince | therve: all the bootstrapping, etc | 16:13 |
| therve | Yeah there is a bit of bootstrapping, but it's like 10 HTTP calls | 16:14 |
| dprince | therve: I mean, if it comes to it. I will. But I'd very much like to install the bare minimum | 16:14 |
| therve | After that it's a simple WSGI service | 16:14 |
| dprince | therve: it is the bootstrapping, all the key generation, etc. | 16:14 |
| dprince | therve: keystone is actually going in the wrong direction for how I'd want to use it here | 16:14 |
| dprince | they are making it much harder to install a minimal installation | 16:15 |
| dprince | like the whole admin_user thing is deprecated now | 16:15 |
| therve | Mokay | 16:15 |
| dprince | therve: I guess my take is it is one more thing I'd have to install very carefully to ensure it doesn't step on the toes of the actual keystone process that we are installing (with the installer) | 16:16 |
| dprince | therve: for heat-all... I run on non-default ports for example. Use a fake_rabbit and there is minimal cleanup | 16:16 |
| therve | dprince, Ah, it's in the same space. Unfortunate | 16:16 |
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| dprince | therve: I'll run keystone if I have to. But it starts to feel less lightweight at that point I think | 16:17 |
| dprince | therve: keystone-light is now... heavy again :/ | 16:17 |
| therve | Heh | 16:17 |
| dprince | therve: if you do think that is the superior approach please feel free to weigh in though. I don't mind and would rather get that feedbck sooner than later I guess | 16:18 |
| dprince | therve: my initial approach was a sort of don't take no for an answer, super lean, gut everything effort | 16:19 |
| dprince | therve: I wouldn't consider it OpenStack if we didn't add at least some amount of baggage into the final solution | 16:19 |
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| therve | dprince, I don't have a strong opinion just yet. Reimplementations, even fakes ones, are tricky to maintain long term. | 16:24 |
| therve | *and* it'd be great if every projects had a way to run in a lightweight mode | 16:25 |
| zaneb | therve: still 6.25GiB even with outputs over RPC :/ http://logs.openstack.org/39/383839/4/experimental-tripleo/gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-nonha/c82a281/logs/dstat.txt.gz | 16:26 |
| therve | zaneb, How much is heat though? | 16:27 |
| zaneb | therve: no idea. how can you tell? | 16:28 |
| therve | zaneb, http://logs.openstack.org/39/383839/4/experimental-tripleo/gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-nonha/c82a281/logs/ps.txt.gz ? | 16:28 |
| therve | Looks like about 1G? | 16:28 |
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| therve | zaneb, 1.6 roughly on this run: http://logs.openstack.org/04/371704/6/experimental-tripleo/gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-nonha/e76abc1/logs/ps.txt.gz | 16:29 |
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| therve | Also no idea where you get that 6.25 number from :) | 16:32 |
| zaneb | therve: ok, that's pretty substantial then | 16:33 |
| zaneb | divide by 1024 | 16:33 |
| therve | Yeah I wondered about the source :) | 16:35 |
| therve | But right, 538M between the 2, that's not too bad | 16:35 |
| zaneb | so it was 6.8GiB total on that last run you pasted... that's consistent with having saved ~0.6GiB | 16:35 |
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| * therve nods | 16:35 | |
| therve | That's about what I saw locally too | 16:35 |
| zaneb | that's about a third, which is really very good | 16:36 |
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| therve | Now how much it does on the one that was taking 30G, that'd be interesting :) | 16:36 |
| zaneb | I was assuming from shardy's graph that Heat's share of the 7.something gigs that was getting used was much larger than it is | 16:36 |
| zaneb | o.O | 16:37 |
| zaneb | which one was that? | 16:37 |
| therve | 60 nodes deployment | 16:37 |
| therve | 26G of RSS, 45G Virt | 16:37 |
| zaneb | yowza | 16:38 |
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| stevemar | dprince: eh? how are you using keystone that setting it up is hard? | 16:47 |
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| stevemar | dprince: keystone-manage bootstrap, done | 16:47 |
| stevemar | :P | 16:47 |
| stevemar | dprince: fake keystone sounds bananas, let the keystone team know what the issue is before going down this road? | 16:49 |
| stevemar | dprince: bounce things off of ayoung, y'all are red hatters and tripleO'ers now | 16:50 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, everything is hard in Tripleo. | 16:50 |
| * ayoung reads up | 16:50 | |
| dprince | ayoung: bit of an overstatement, heh? | 16:51 |
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| dprince | stevemar: I'll revisit the keystone idea perhaps | 16:51 |
| therve | zaneb, So at any rate, when the bug was opened we were around 4G virt/2G rss | 16:52 |
| therve | With the latest RPC change we're at 2.6/1 | 16:52 |
| dprince | stevemar: the use case I'm chasing here has less to do with keystone, and more to do with using heat as a sort of library. Something which heat doesn't actually support... but by running heat in a single process we gain most of the functionality we need today perhaps while a longer term effort could solve some of the bootstrap/dependencies more elegantly | 16:52 |
| zaneb | therve: that's 200% less memory! | 16:53 |
| ayoung | dprince, everything is hard when you have to make changes in Keystone, Keystoneauth, Keystonemiddleware, puppet-keystone, triple-heat-templates, python-tripleo-client and python-openstackclient to make something work | 16:53 |
| ayoung | I midde python-keystoneclient | 16:53 |
| ayoung | missed | 16:54 |
| dprince | ayoung: that sounds more like an OpenStack comment... and less like a TripleO comment | 16:54 |
| ayoung | So, OpenStack is hard, and tripleo is hard in an OpenStack way? | 16:54 |
| ayoung | dprince, aaaaanyway...is this your attempt to run Heat without Keystone server? I totally support that | 16:54 |
| ayoung | so long as heat is the only thing running, you should not need Keystone | 16:55 |
| dprince | ayoung: right, well it turns out Heat makes some keystone calls for trusts and core auth | 16:55 |
| dprince | ayoung: some of those can go away with noauth middleware, but not all of them. Not yet, anyway | 16:55 |
| ayoung | dprince, trusts are for delegation, which implies multiple users | 16:56 |
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| ayoung | Should not be in the path for your use case, or we should be able to fake that out | 16:57 |
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| dprince | ayoung: oh, I faked it out all right :) | 16:57 |
| ayoung | dprince, what path was hitting trusts ? | 16:58 |
| dprince | ayoung: I think one idea would be possibly using a new signal'ing mechanism in Heat. One which doesn't setup trusts | 16:58 |
| dprince | ayoung: the heat signalling code (if I recall) was where I hit issues here | 16:58 |
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| dprince | ayoung: the noauth middleware gets me halfway there https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347505/ | 16:59 |
| randallburt | dprince: a pretty tough proposal given that the transports for signalling are all other openstack services and you'd still need some sort of trusted transport | 16:59 |
| randallburt | dprince: but if you're just testing Heat and faking everything else, you could fake a transport as well I suppose | 17:00 |
| dprince | randallburt: the use case here is actually mostly around using OS::Heat resources. Mainly the software deployments.... | 17:00 |
| ayoung | dprince, yeah, I thought you were doing something like that. So the Heat server does not authenticate, just accepts what the user passes in, and security will be based on Network/local-only type something, right> | 17:01 |
| dprince | randallburt: so, yeah. I mostly don't care about trusts... since it is only a localhost/port sort of thing. | 17:01 |
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| dprince | ayoung: exactly, it is the stuff inside heat that I used the fake_keystone for initially | 17:01 |
| ayoung | you only need a trust if you are calling another service that expects a token, which I would not expect to see here | 17:01 |
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| ayoung | Or do you need to authenticate to the Keystone server you just set up? | 17:02 |
| randallburt | which he currently does if he wants to use software config or wait conditions. he's got to create some other transport that doesn't need auth | 17:02 |
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| randallburt | I'm rusty, but can't software config use heat native transport and you can stub or fake the trust stuff? | 17:03 |
| dprince | randallburt: exactly, so would you entertain the idea of us creating a limited local_signalling mechanism for this? Or do you think a fake (or local) keystone approachs sounds better for me? | 17:03 |
| ayoung | who is signalling what? | 17:03 |
| dprince | randallburt: I am using Heat native transport, but perhaps I missed some magic | 17:03 |
| dprince | ayoung: heat has a signalling API, THings call back into it via the signal transports | 17:04 |
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| ayoung | dprince, so Heat is essentially setting up a callback, and thinks it needs to create a trust for the service that is calling back to heat? | 17:04 |
| dprince | zaneb: BTW. Thanks for your reviews on the heat-all launcher. I don't think it is perfect FWIW but it is a good first go at it | 17:05 |
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| randallburt | right, so you'd have to give it some "fake" keystone to talk to that simply returns junk for the trusts since you aren't authenticating the signal anyway | 17:05 |
| dprince | randallburt: that is what I did exactly | 17:05 |
| randallburt | dprince: and it didn't work? | 17:05 |
| dprince | randallburt: oh, it worked great | 17:06 |
| zaneb | dprince: np, I agree and I definitely think it is an interesting experiment | 17:06 |
| dprince | randallburt: I'm actually fairly happy with it. The talk here is about whether I should be using the full on version of keystone instead for my lightweight use case | 17:06 |
| randallburt | dprince: oh, well then good on you. other than patching or creating a new transport from whole cloth that doesn't authenticate you don't have any other realistic choice | 17:06 |
| dprince | randallburt: and/or should I approach the issue from the Heat angle and perhaps add a new signal transport option for local, noauth | 17:07 |
| randallburt | dprince: IMO if what you have works and isn't horribly offensive I don't think there are significant technical merrits to any of those choices to bother thinking too much about it | 17:07 |
| randallburt | dprince: I mean, creating a new transport certainly sounds *interesting* for sure, but if the jobs done, the jobs done imo | 17:08 |
| dprince | randallburt: I may have offended some. There is a valid concern that writing fakes is a maintenance problem. And maybe keystone isn't that heavy, but forking the extra process sort of brings into question the lightweight nature of using this as a means to a local heat-all helper API | 17:10 |
| dprince | randallburt: good to have options if there is pushback I suppose | 17:10 |
| randallburt | dprince: true enough | 17:11 |
| randallburt | dprince: I'm just thinking in terms of complexity of that maintenance. Is your lightweight keystone any more difficult to maintain than a fake signal transport? | 17:12 |
| randallburt | maybe its just me in that I don't consider forking a process "heavy" ;) | 17:12 |
| dprince | randallburt: something in-tree (Heat's git repo) might be preferable I think as it would at least have unit test coverage | 17:13 |
| dprince | randallburt: but, functionally I could see there being breakages. Sure | 17:13 |
| dprince | randallburt: TripleO would likely end up using this in their CI though so it'd be covered there quite well perhaps | 17:14 |
| randallburt | dprince: I suppose. If its all the same to you then maybe go the new transport route in the heat test module if it makes the path to acceptance faster. | 17:15 |
| dprince | randallburt: my thought was, I use fake keystone (today because I have it). And chip away at the transport route in the future | 17:16 |
| randallburt | dprince: the downside being that that means the Heat team agrees to maintain it | 17:16 |
| randallburt | dprince: a very suitable plan | 17:16 |
| dprince | randallburt: but, interestingly using a fake or real keystone works globally | 17:16 |
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| randallburt | dprince: also very true | 17:16 |
| dprince | randallburt: so there is always the appeal of the solution that you can use everywhere. Like I may want similar functionality for Mistral. So... maybe I shouldn't bother heat with this after all. You guys are plenty busy | 17:17 |
| dprince | but I do need a heat-all to start with :) | 17:17 |
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| randallburt | dprince: :) | 17:21 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: this series is ready for review now https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1626675+status:open+branch:master | 20:27 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: ok | 20:27 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: reduced memory usage from 1.6GiB to 1GiB in gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-nonha | 20:28 |
| zaneb | heat-engine memory usage, that is | 20:28 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: that sounds good | 21:18 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1632419 in Magnum "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'clusters'" [Undecided,New] | 21:53 |
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