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| asalkeld | stevebaker: can you review this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201664/ | 00:15 |
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| asalkeld | smallish convergence patch | 00:15 |
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| stevebaker | sure | 00:16 |
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| asalkeld | ta | 00:19 |
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| asalkeld | swell i have "facts of god" following me on twitter, they not going to hear anything agreeable from me :-O | 00:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Ignore .egg directory (created by pbr) https://review.openstack.org/204322 | 00:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Ignore .eggs directory (created by the new pbr) https://review.openstack.org/204322 | 00:35 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201724/ (pick a release model patch) ? | 00:39 |
| asalkeld | openstack/heat-translator | 00:41 |
| asalkeld | release:independent or release:none | 00:41 |
| stevebaker | lets assume at some point they'll release something | 00:41 |
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| asalkeld | k then looks ok, maybe +1 | 00:42 |
| stevebaker | yep | 00:42 |
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| Qiming | stevebaker, hi | 01:00 |
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| stevebaker | Qiming: hi | 01:00 |
| Qiming | stevebaker, could you help take a look at this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150720/ | 01:00 |
| Qiming | I don't have an idea what am I supposed to do to proceed on this | 01:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Refactor wait condition handles https://review.openstack.org/202028 | 01:06 |
| stevebaker | Qiming: it looks like the root problem is that we're changing the response of a stable REST API call | 01:07 |
| Qiming | so? | 01:07 |
| stevebaker | Qiming: how about we keep the old one and add a resource_types/detail endpoing | 01:08 |
| stevebaker | endpoint | 01:08 |
| Qiming | the tempest patch was trying to be compatible with older versions | 01:08 |
| stevebaker | but our REST API should be backwards compatible always | 01:08 |
| Qiming | the heat side patch is accompanied with a new api version | 01:08 |
| stevebaker | thats the rpc version, not the rest one | 01:09 |
| Qiming | right, rpc version | 01:09 |
| Qiming | so ... for v1 api, we will stick to returning a list of strings for resource types? | 01:09 |
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| stevebaker | our REST API is a public facing thing which must remain backwards compatible, so we can only add things rather than completely change the format of existing things | 01:10 |
| Qiming | okay, got it | 01:10 |
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| Qiming | if we see it (the api format) a problem, we should postpone it to next REST API version, right? | 01:11 |
| stevebaker | Qiming: so the user needs to specify somehow that they want the new format, either through a details path, or a ?details=True flag | 01:11 |
| stevebaker | Qiming: we can add it, just by not breaking the existing call | 01:11 |
| Qiming | em. the reason I am looking into this is: 1. it is not conforming to the API WG guideline, 2. python-openstack sdk cannot parse this kind of a API response | 01:12 |
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| Qiming | stevebaker, how about this | 01:19 |
| Qiming | refer to this: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/naming.html | 01:19 |
| Qiming | the guideline says that we should not include underscores in resource names | 01:19 |
| Qiming | but hyphens would be okay | 01:19 |
| Qiming | so ... maybe add a resource named "resource-types" ? | 01:20 |
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| stevebaker | Qiming: we already have API calls to specify extra details of things. How about adopt the style of the one which is most api-wg compliant? | 01:25 |
| stevebaker | biab | 01:25 |
| Qiming | return ['a', 'b'] if no ?details=True specified, else return [{'name': 'a'}, {'name': 'b'}] ? | 01:26 |
| Qiming | this is not about extra details, it is about what is in the list (collection) | 01:27 |
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| asalkeld | Qiming: format_type=foo ? | 01:31 |
| asalkeld | basically don't change the default as it will break clients | 01:32 |
| Qiming | yes, that is a valid concern, an important one indeed | 01:32 |
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| Qiming | so I was trying to propose, a 'resource-types' endpoint, to better align with the guideline | 01:33 |
| Qiming | 'resource_types' can live happily with 'resource-types'? ;) | 01:34 |
| asalkeld | yeah | 01:35 |
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| asalkeld | hi ramishra | 03:01 |
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| KanagarajM | good morning all | 04:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat-templates: Adds sample designate templates https://review.openstack.org/201495 | 04:16 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/204297 | 04:29 |
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| ricolin | guys | 06:51 |
| ricolin | can you help me to review this patch | 06:52 |
| ricolin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204175/ | 06:52 |
| ricolin | I not quite sure what cause the error | 06:52 |
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| ricolin | I pass all test on my local site with tox -v -r -epy27 | 06:53 |
| stevebaker | ricolin: it seems unrelated to your change | 06:54 |
| asalkeld | it's to do with the "show" property change | 06:55 |
| asalkeld | not sure why it didn't fail then at the gate | 06:56 |
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| asalkeld | ricolin: just make a patch before your one to fix it | 06:56 |
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| ricolin | okey | 06:57 |
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| ricolin | Like to help, but I can't reproduce that error on my local side | 06:58 |
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| stevebaker | ricolin: have you pulled latest master and rebased your change? | 06:59 |
| ricolin | yes | 06:59 |
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| stevebaker | meeting time! | 07:01 |
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| ananta_ | asalkeld: regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200995/9 | 07:02 |
| asalkeld | ya | 07:02 |
| ananta_ | I have updated the comments, let me know if you still want it to be reverted | 07:03 |
| ananta_ | or change to something else | 07:03 |
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| asalkeld | ananta_: it should be "resource (action) failed" | 07:03 |
| ananta_ | asalkeld: with action being stack action or resource action? | 07:04 |
| asalkeld | shouldn't matter | 07:04 |
| asalkeld | but go with resource | 07:04 |
| ananta_ | it matters when stack is updated and new resource is created | 07:04 |
| ananta_ | anyways, I will go with resource then | 07:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Split engine unit test cases for resource type https://review.openstack.org/201046 | 08:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Fix StackResourceUnavailable exception https://review.openstack.org/202528 | 08:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Resource-type-show does not report unavailable resource type https://review.openstack.org/201047 | 08:54 |
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| blinky_ghost | good morning :) can anyone tell me where I can download a centos6 image with software elements? I built one, but it doesn't boot :/ thanks | 10:26 |
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| blinky_ghost | shardy: Hi :) A quick question :) I'm using a OS::Heat::ResourceGroup with a couple of nodes. How can I read the metadata inside nova server so that node 1 knows about the ip of node2 and vice-versa? | 11:19 |
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| shardy | blinky_ghost: You need to use a OS::Heat::SoftwareDeployments (now named OS::Heat::SoftwareDeploymentGroup from Liberty) | 11:45 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/master/overcloud-without-mergepy.yaml#L1083 | 11:45 |
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| shardy | blinky_ghost: something similar to that example in tripleo-heat-templates, you can copy that pattern with ControllerBootstrapNodeDeployment/ControllerBootstrapNodeConfig | 11:46 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/master/puppet/controller-puppet.yaml#L1137 | 11:47 |
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| shardy_ | blinky_ghost: you'll probably need to put the servers into a nested stack and copy the pattern of passing out the nova_server_resource, ip_address and hostname | 11:48 |
| blinky_ghost | shardy: I have a resourcegroup or eventually an autoscaling group | 11:48 |
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| blinky_ghost | shardy_: ok I'll try to see that example from tripleo | 11:49 |
| blinky_ghost | thanks shardy_ | 11:49 |
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| blinky_ghost | shardy: just another question, I need an image with software elements for this, right? So I followed this howto https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/tree/master/hot/software-config/elements. I built centos6 image but it doesn't boot, Centos7 doesn't build. I've only managed to build a fedora image. Do you know where I can download an centos image that suports softwareconfig? | 11:54 |
| shardy | blinky_ghost: sounds like we need to update our docs to show how to build a centos image, it should work - can you raise a bug please? | 11:57 |
| blinky_ghost | shardy: sure, I'll do that, thanks | 11:58 |
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| shardy | gah freenode keeps dropping me today | 12:28 |
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| ryansb | shardy: I've had issues coming from the vpn in the past, maybe try connecting from a box outside the nat? | 12:36 |
| ryansb | YMMV, of course | 12:36 |
| shardy | ryansb: Thanks, I think I tried that last week but I'll give it another go later | 12:37 |
| ryansb | another thing to try is to connect directly to the geo-closest freenode server, instead of irc.freenode | 12:38 |
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| shardy | Yeah I've tried servers in London and elsewhere in Europe, same result :( | 12:40 |
| shardy | I assume it may be a flaky connection issue, but oddly it's only Freenode which drops me not other IRC servers | 12:41 |
| ryansb | bizarre. I suppose the next step is "get a better isp" ¯\_ツ_/¯ | 12:42 |
| shardy | ryansb: heh, it's on the todo list ;) | 12:44 |
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| jdandrea | ryansb: regarding HOT -> TOSCA, there are some folks here taking HOT templates and manually converting them to TOSCA equivalents. I thought "There's got to be a better way!" | 12:57 |
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| jdandrea | stevebaker: Hi! We talked in YVR about resource "orchestration uuids" (yay convergence!) and how they are super useful for lifecycle scheduler hints. I'm trying to get the tests to work and need a clue. Drawing a bead on it here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/396675/ | 13:00 |
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| jdandrea | stevebaker: My understanding is we'd need to store the resource (which create eventually seems to do, per a stack backtrace). Thinking there must be a way to use mocks to do this sanely. *scratches head* | 13:02 |
| ryansb | jdandrea: sbaker is probably very, very asleep right now, you may want to try email instead | 13:03 |
| jdandrea | ryansb: XD | 13:03 |
| ryansb | (unless he's swapped time zones somehow) | 13:03 |
| jdandrea | I think I got my steves mixed up. | 13:03 |
| ryansb | possibly | 13:03 |
| jdandrea | I probably spoke with shardy. :) | 13:03 |
| jdandrea | Oops. | 13:03 |
| jdandrea | shardy: See above ^^ (lol) | 13:04 |
| ryansb | it's been known to happen, due to the high steve-density | 13:04 |
| jdandrea | I don't think stevebaker was at YVR, right? | 13:04 |
| shardy | jdandrea: no we were both there :) | 13:04 |
| jdandrea | Oh! | 13:04 |
| ryansb | for max confusion | 13:04 |
| jdandrea | Who was missing ... | 13:04 |
| jdandrea | MAX confusion headroom. | 13:04 |
| shardy | just to add to the steve related confusion :D | 13:04 |
| jdandrea | Cut it out. Just ... stop. ;) | 13:05 |
| jdandrea | So now I don't know who I spoke with. *grin* | 13:05 |
| ryansb | /nick anothersteve | 13:05 |
| jdandrea | lol | 13:05 |
| shardy | jdandrea: I'm not sure I recall discussing this in YVR, but I think the answer is you have to store the resource before you get resource.uuid | 13:06 |
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| shardy | So, even if you've not started creation it has to be stored INIT_COMPLETE (which I think we now do, right?) | 13:07 |
| jdandrea | shardy: ha, so it *was* stevebaker. (Or might have been. OR ... it was zaneb.) Oh boy. | 13:07 |
| shardy | Is the problem just that you need to store the resource in the test? | 13:07 |
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| jdandrea | shardy: I'm not sure if that's the recommended/ok thing to do, or if I should do it some other way. Notice how the id is created within that test, so maybe the uuid should be created inside as well? | 13:08 |
| jdandrea | shardy: But yes, if that's the way to do it, then I think I just need to store the resource so that server.uuid is not None. | 13:09 |
| jdandrea | I'm not sure if it's a matter of moving the create call further up or if I have to unravel something. | 13:09 |
| therve | jdandrea, I *think* I told you that already :) | 13:09 |
| shardy | jdandrea: we set up a dummy DB so you should be fine to store it, or dummy it by manually setting it on the resource | 13:10 |
| jdandrea | therve: You did, and I was recapping what you recommended earlier. I'm still unclear as to next steps though. I recall we disagreed about create() being the instigator behind the store. | 13:10 |
| therve | Yeah create is called after store | 13:10 |
| jdandrea | shardy: I think that's where my knowledge falls short. I'm basically hacking around and guessing (and failing at it). | 13:10 |
| jdandrea | (multiple times) | 13:11 |
| jdandrea | So I'm in need of a bit more of a clue than the small one I already have. :) | 13:11 |
| shardy | jdandrea: after the scheduler.TaskRunner(server.create)() the uuid should be set | 13:11 |
| jdandrea | shardy: Yes, but by that time the test fails because server.uuid is None a few lines above that. | 13:12 |
| shardy | I think, because we'll have persisted the state | 13:12 |
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| therve | jdandrea, http://paste.openstack.org/show/399928/ | 13:12 |
| therve | That seems to make the test passes | 13:12 |
| therve | I ought to be a bit more solid though | 13:12 |
| jdandrea | therve: Oh! That's it? I was hoping it was something obvious that I was missing. Thank you. | 13:12 |
| therve | jdandrea, http://paste.openstack.org/show/399929/ | 13:13 |
| jdandrea | therve: But then I think store is called again during create, according to my backtrace. | 13:13 |
| therve | Yeah there is no black magic :) | 13:13 |
| jdandrea | therve: Heh. | 13:13 |
| jdandrea | therve: What I mean is, is it ok for it to be called twice or is that going to instigate other problems. (and thank you for the assertion line) | 13:13 |
| therve | It should be okay yeah, because it will call store_or_update | 13:14 |
| jdandrea | Ok. Thanks for that. (Things that may be obvious to others aren't always obvious to me, though I keep studying the source. I really do try to figure this out on my own but sometimes I need extra clues. I appreciate it!) | 13:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Rakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix concurrent update https://review.openstack.org/204601 | 13:15 |
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| shardy | jdandrea: Yeah I think it should be fine, since https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165686/ we persist the INIT_COMPLETE state before doing any create, so I think this is basically equivalent | 13:16 |
| jdandrea | therve: One more thing. Should I place that _store inside TaskRunner? | 13:17 |
| therve | jdandrea, Possibly 'stack.add_resource(server)' would be better | 13:17 |
| therve | No | 13:17 |
| jdandrea | therve: ok | 13:17 |
| therve | Yeah the add_resource sounds like a better idea | 13:17 |
| therve | It will call _store for you, and it looks a bit more like a public API | 13:18 |
| jdandrea | therve: I like that. Recapping the create() http://paste.openstack.org/show/396731/ ... confirming that we aren't going to go that route. Got it. | 13:19 |
| jdandrea | shardy: Thanks! | 13:21 |
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| bdossant | shardy: Hi! I tested the %index% field on ResourceGroup and it works good. Thanks! I also wanted to know if there is plans to change a bit the login of the removal_policies. Like removing the resource first and creating the new one after? And also reusing the same names if specified? | 15:11 |
| bdossant | This could be used to use a heat template to always fill the quota | 15:12 |
| bdossant | i often get this use case | 15:12 |
| bdossant | *logic | 15:12 |
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| shardy | bdossant: the removal_policies interface was designed to be extensible, but there are no current plans to modify it | 15:19 |
| shardy | feel free to raise a bug/spec with details of your requirement tho | 15:19 |
| bdossant | yes i realized that now, that we could add some new functionality there | 15:20 |
| bdossant | i will think about it | 15:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Convergence: Fix resource loading on cleanup https://review.openstack.org/201664 | 15:20 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: hi | 15:44 |
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| zaneb | ramishra: o/ | 15:45 |
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| zaneb | how goes it? | 15:45 |
| ramishra | zaneb: are you ok with my responses to the rolling_update thing? | 15:46 |
| zaneb | ramishra: tbh I still have doubts about the handling of min_in_service | 15:46 |
| zaneb | you mentioned there was an IRC discussion already | 15:46 |
| zaneb | do you have a link? | 15:46 |
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| zaneb | ramishra: btw bug on line 316, "if not size" should be "if size is None" | 15:48 |
| ramishra | zaneb: I discussed with shardy. no agreement on it though. | 15:49 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: if we all strongly feel about removing blacklist in the beginning, I can change it. However, I still feel that we should not remove them in the beginning. | 15:53 |
| zaneb | why not? | 15:53 |
| zaneb | why do an update on a blacklisted member just to delete it again straight after? | 15:54 |
| ramishra | we don't update the blacklisted | 15:55 |
| zaneb | probably the user is blacklisting it because the server died anyway, so trying to update it will just result in everything failing | 15:55 |
| ramishra | we ignore them | 15:55 |
| zaneb | ok, good | 15:55 |
| zaneb | oh, _resource_names filters them out | 15:55 |
| ramishra | yep | 15:55 |
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| zaneb | when _do_ the blacklisted ones get removed then? | 15:56 |
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| zaneb | after the whole rolling update is completed? | 15:57 |
| zaneb | at line 375? | 15:57 |
| ramishra | yes, in the last step which may include resize | 15:57 |
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| zaneb | it seems wrong to me to include nodes that the user has already told us are not working as being in service for the purposes of keeping a minimum number of nodes in service | 16:02 |
| zaneb | shardy: ^ any thoughts? | 16:02 |
| ramishra | as an side effect, removing the blacklisted first would also increase the number of updates(n+1) | 16:04 |
| ramishra | nested stack updates | 16:04 |
| zaneb | not necessarily, they could be deleted as part of the first batch update | 16:05 |
| zaneb | in fact you have n+1 now, because you do another update at the end | 16:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Pratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Fix RS CLB resource to handle HTTPS_REDIRECT correctly https://review.openstack.org/204151 | 16:06 |
| shardy | zaneb: I agree, I made the same query a couple of weeks ago, let me find the logs | 16:06 |
| ochuprykov | zaneb: the lust update just delete the instances | 16:06 |
| ochuprykov | last* | 16:07 |
| ramishra | if the count is changed then it would be included in that(resize). | 16:07 |
| shardy | zaneb: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23heat/%23heat.2015-06-30.log.html | 16:11 |
| shardy | "ramishra: does it make sense to consider a blacklisted item as one of those in service?" | 16:11 |
| blinky_ghost | hi all, I'm playing with software-config using this script as an example https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/example-templates/example-script-template.yaml. I'm only using a tenant network without access to my openstack server and I get "connection refused" in os-collect-config. My question is if I really need access to the outside or can I use metadata network or something? thanks | 16:11 |
| shardy | blinky_ghost: you have to be able to poll the heat API | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Pratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Fix RS CLB resource to handle HTTPS_REDIRECT correctly https://review.openstack.org/204151 | 16:13 |
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| ramishra | shardy: if the item is not performing as expectation, but in service. | 16:13 |
| ramishra | As we discussed, we may not have blacklisting and resource def changes happening at the same time | 16:14 |
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| blinky_ghost | shardy: so there's not another way like to use 169.254.169.254 network? | 16:14 |
| shardy | ramishra: I thought we agreed the least astonishing outcome was to remove/increase nodes then do the update | 16:14 |
| shardy | e.g if I increase count from 50 to 100, while also updating resource_def with a batch count of 10 | 16:14 |
| shardy | would you expect to have a net number of nodes of 40 or 90 during the rolling update? | 16:14 |
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| shardy | I think I would expect 90 | 16:15 |
| shardy | That's what I said before | 16:15 |
| shardy | I still acknowledge it's a corner case :) | 16:15 |
| zaneb | ramishra, shardy: I guess the *optimal* thing to do is to do the resize before rolling update if scaling up, and after if scaling down. but imo blacklisted nodes should always be excluded starting at the point where the user told us they were blacklisted | 16:15 |
| zaneb | agree it's kind of a corner case | 16:16 |
| ramishra | yeah I remember, rolling update is for existing resource and not new resources added, am I wrong in assuming that | 16:16 |
| zaneb | I'm actually more worried about getting readable code | 16:16 |
| zaneb | because I'm really struggling with the new algo | 16:16 |
| zaneb | the old one was hard enough, but at least we know it worked. would be great not to have to make major changes | 16:17 |
| shardy | ramishra: yes, because the new nodes will already have the new resource_def, so no update needed | 16:17 |
| ramishra | so as part of the update if resize is to be done, that should not be part of rolling update right? | 16:17 |
| shardy | but if you don't handle the blacklist and resize before the rolling update, you may not end up with the optimal outcome during the update | 16:17 |
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| shardy | like, say you increase the count by 10 to take accound of the 10 servers being removed in batches | 16:18 |
| shardy | take account of.. | 16:18 |
| shardy | Currently, that's not possible unless you do two stack updates | 16:18 |
| ramishra | removal is not part of rolling update | 16:19 |
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| ramishra | its just updating the existing servers that are not blacklisted | 16:20 |
| ramishra | from the existing | 16:20 |
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| ramishra | shardy: for the scenario you mentioned it would be only one update | 16:22 |
| ochuprykov | ramishara: why not 5? updated 50 by 10 and then resize to 100? | 16:23 |
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| shardy | ramishra: I guess I'm still confused here: | 16:25 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194052/19/heat/engine/resources/openstack/heat/resource_group.py | 16:25 |
| shardy | it looks like you start the updaters task, return the list of checkers, then on the first call to check_update_complete we start the resizer, and step through them both? | 16:25 |
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| shardy | I guess the problem with doing the resizer first is the generated template will have the new resource_def, so you'll miss the opportunity to do the batched update? | 16:27 |
| ramishra | sorry which part of the code you are talking about? | 16:27 |
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| shardy | ramishra: handle_update, it starts checkers[0], then returns the list, which is passed into check_update_complete | 16:27 |
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| ramishra | yes, the first task is from the rolling update if there is resource_def change | 16:28 |
| ramishra | else it's the resizer | 16:28 |
| ramishra | then i check for every task till they are complete | 16:28 |
| shardy | ramishra: yep, but this won't work if both happen at once? | 16:29 |
| ramishra | before starting next task | 16:29 |
| ramishra | they happen in sequence, not at the same time | 16:29 |
| shardy | aha, we return before the end of the loop :) | 16:30 |
| ramishra | yeah | 16:30 |
| shardy | cool, sorry for the noise, but we still have the rolling-update before resize issue outlined above | 16:30 |
| shardy | which is probably fine for now, unless zaneb can suggest a way to combine things | 16:31 |
| ramishra | my argument is rolling update is for existing resources and not newly added resources, so it should happen before resize in any case:) | 16:32 |
| ramishra | we want to do rolling update as we can't do all the existing resources at the sametime and want to have certain minimum resources in service | 16:32 |
| zaneb | well, sometimes during rolling update we create new resources in order to meet our minimum in service size, and then delete them at the end | 16:32 |
| zaneb | kinda sucks to delete them if we're about to scale up anyway | 16:33 |
| shardy | ramishra: my argument is, ideally, you'd add the new resources, then do the rolling update affecting existing resources | 16:33 |
| ramishra | in that case the whole concept is min_in_service does not make much sense | 16:34 |
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| zaneb | why not? | 16:35 |
| shardy | ramishra: Going back to my previous example, if I increase count from 50 to 100, and trigger a rolling update (of the 50) resources, and I want a min_in_service of 90, that is not possible with this code | 16:35 |
| ramishra | zaneb: newly added resources as part of rolling_update are not deleted | 16:35 |
| shardy | The maximum possible number for min_in_service is 40, despite the count of 100 | 16:36 |
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| zaneb | if nb_capacity - remainder >= efft_min_sz - num_blacklist:504 | 16:37 |
| zaneb | efft_capacity = nb_capacity | 16:37 |
| zaneb | that ^ reduces the capacity from efft_capacity to nb_capacity | 16:37 |
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| shardy | ramishra: If we can fix that, then min_in_service is probably not needed, because the min is always count-batch_size | 16:39 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: I don't think that removes newly added resources | 16:40 |
| zaneb | ramishra: it does. | 16:41 |
| shardy | If we added the interface to pause until signal I mentioned, we could write a nice functional test to work all this out :) | 16:41 |
| zaneb | if efft_capacity > capacity as a result of needing to maintain min in service then new nodes are added and then deleted at the end of the rolling update | 16:42 |
| ramishra | zaneb: I'v tested this. This just sets the counter properly as there are blacklisted resources | 16:42 |
| zaneb | talking about the AutoscalingGroup implementation here, but I believe the same principle applies | 16:43 |
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| ramishra | sorry have to go, I'll update with a comment on how it does not remove newly added resource as part of the rolling update | 16:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Fix RS CLB resource to handle HTTPS_REDIRECT correctly https://review.openstack.org/204151 | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Pratik Mallya proposed openstack/heat: Fix RS CLB resource to handle HTTPS_REDIRECT correctly https://review.openstack.org/204151 | 16:50 |
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| blinky_ghost | shardy: concerning the OS::Heat::Resource::Group with OS::Heat::SoftwareDeployments to share values between nova servers, can I create a nested stack with resourcegroup that calls a external resource that is nova server which has OS::Heat::SoftwareDeployments on it? | 17:05 |
| shardy | blinky_ghost: Yes, that's basically exactly how TripleO works | 17:08 |
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| blinky_ghost | shardy: I'm having this error: "ERROR: Failed to validate: Failed to validate: The specified reference "mgm_cluster" (in CommonHostDeployment.Properties.input_values.hosts) is incorrect." I need in outputs section to export the ResourceGroup to my OS::Heat::SoftwareDeployments resource right? | 17:32 |
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| sdake_ | any folks from mirantis in the channel? | 17:50 |
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| pas-ha | sdake_, what's up? | 19:02 |
| * pas-ha should put on notifiers on the employer's name ^) | 19:04 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Ignore .eggs directory (created by the new pbr) https://review.openstack.org/204322 | 19:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Move core engine related unit tests to tests/engine https://review.openstack.org/199227 | 19:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Catch NotFound in format_stack_resource for nested() https://review.openstack.org/204294 | 19:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe D'Andrea proposed openstack/heat: Adds resource uuid, volume support to lifecycle scheduler hints https://review.openstack.org/203823 | 20:12 |
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| pm90__ | is there a reason why stack outputs can't be shown as soon as they are available, instead of waiting for the stack to complete/ fail? | 20:28 |
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| lifeless | sdake: 204356 makes me grin at the irony | 20:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe D'Andrea proposed openstack/heat: Adds resource uuid, volume support to lifecycle scheduler hints https://review.openstack.org/203823 | 20:39 |
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| sdake | lifeless which is that in reference to? | 21:01 |
| lifeless | sdake: your review | 21:01 |
| sdake | -etoomanynumbers | 21:02 |
| sdake | oh the 1 company review? | 21:02 |
| sdake | you mean the part how I mentioned congress ;-) | 21:02 |
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| lifeless | sdake: the part on 'diversity' and 'one company' | 21:48 |
| lifeless | sdake: seemed like a humurous juxtaposition | 21:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Grinberg proposed openstack/heat: Correctly determine keystone v3 endpoint https://review.openstack.org/202824 | 22:02 |
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| sdake | lifeless yar well it could be differnet divsions or something ;) | 22:11 |
| sdake | lifeless I'm not the one who made the script require two corporate sponsors :) | 22:12 |
| sdake | actually I guess it requires 3 to get under 80% review and commits | 22:12 |
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| sdake | kolla is diverse - http://cdn.pasteraw.com/ndds96xqqkq34no8euzbx7fmu9j37p3 | 22:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Functional test to attempt deployments race trigger https://review.openstack.org/204780 | 22:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/204418 | 22:34 |
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