Tuesday, 2015-03-17

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asalkeldzaneb: you about?01:02
asalkeldto chat about: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163743/01:02
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ramishrastevebaker: Hi! still around?01:12
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ramishrastevebaker: Please have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164572/ when you have time. not completely done, but works..01:16
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stevebakerramishra: thats awesome. I might bikeshed your directory structure01:28
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ramishrasure, let me know your suggestion:)01:36
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ramishrastevebaker: docker build does not support relative paths with ADD/COPY. I've to pull the hooks to a scripts directory.01:41
ramishrastevebaker: let me know what you think would be the best structure.01:42
stevebakerramishra: I've used symlinks elsewhere for this sort of situation. That could be an option01:42
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Add missing versioned mechanism to Stack object  https://review.openstack.org/16468201:42
ramishrastevebaker: I've done that actually01:42
stevebakeroh, cool01:42
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Separate message and traceback even if not a remote error  https://review.openstack.org/16476901:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Fix OS::Zaqar::Queue resource_mapping  https://review.openstack.org/16466501:43
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ramishrastevebaker: kolla team has a requirement for env_file, I was thinking of it as a special INPUT in the config and then hook handles it in serializing to the compose project directory. your suggestion?01:47
stevebakerramishra: I think there are about 3 options01:47
stevebakerramishra: before I list them, can you point me at an example env file?01:48
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stevebakerlooks like key=value\n...01:55
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ramishrastevebaker: yep, actually its multiple docker ENV in a file.. Now they can use multiple 'environments' inline too without an issue.01:56
stevebakerso options are:01:57
ramishra--env-file=[]              Read in a line delimited file of environment variables01:57
stevebaker1. special input containing env string in env syntax (as you suggested)01:58
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stevebaker2. specify deployment input_value per env value (direct mapping env->inputs)01:58
stevebaker3. specify the env in yaml format using the 'option' property of the config resource01:59
stevebaker4. define the env in its own resource, and deploy via its own deployment resource or combine into other configs via 1. 2. or 3.02:01
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ramishra4th one looks little complicated to me :)  I was thinking if they can use the same env files with the template, and just do a get_file into a special input and then we serialize it to the compose project directory. That should be possible right?02:04
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stevebakeryes, absolutely. although how do you choose a different environment file? {get_file: {get_param: env_filename}} doesn't work.02:11
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sdake__i like optoin e the best02:13
sdake__ramishra's option02:13
sdake__i'd prefer a get_file on it and load it next to the yml and launch docker-compose with it02:13
sdake__the env filename is hardcoded?02:14
sdake__why doesn't get_file get_param work?02:15
sdake__parser thing?02:15
sdake__oh rihgt client needs to send the file02:15
sdake__could always do client side parsing ;-)02:15
asalkeldsdake__: also it seems nested get_file doesn't seem to work02:15
asalkeldhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/164417/02:16
sdake__we dont need nestd get_file for this tho02:16
sdake__just get_file get param02:16
sdake__actually i dont think we even care - the openstack.env is supposed to always be the same perhardware node02:16
sdake__if multiple nodes are specified in the heat dsl that is where it gets tricky02:16
sdake__theoretically it could be a global configration02:17
sdake__but i'm not sure that would work for ha services like rabbitmq and mariadb+galera02:17
sdake__apprently galera involves staring 1 node, then starting a second node then starting a thrid node, then restarting the first node, then restarting the second node02:18
sdake__although that seems awkward to me and I doubt that is really how it operates02:18
sdake__but this is what i've been told02:19
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stevebakersdake__: relative get_file calls are relative to the template file02:31
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stevebakersdake__: what if the env was represented as a yaml dict on the heat side and converted to the env file format by the compose hook?02:32
stevebakersdake_, ramishra: we should implement this heatclient feature too, then the env file can just be a param value https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-heatclient/+bug/133483902:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1334839 in python-heatclient "stack creator should be able to pass files an input" [Undecided,New]02:39
ramishrastevebaker: sure. I'll give it a try.02:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Keystone resource plugin for User  https://review.openstack.org/16156503:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Allows update of domain for keystone project and group  https://review.openstack.org/16457703:14
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: StackResource convert operations to use RPC  https://review.openstack.org/11633604:00
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openstackgerritRakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Versioned-object SyncPoint  https://review.openstack.org/16459104:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Versioned objects - Snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/15155604:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Versioned objects - Event  https://review.openstack.org/14992604:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Versioned object - SoftwareDeployment  https://review.openstack.org/15242904:26
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Func tests use fedora-heat-test-image  https://review.openstack.org/16328704:37
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Use oslo.log for heat_integrationtests  https://review.openstack.org/16399304:37
asalkeldbrb picking kids up04:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Updates heat_keystone with version support  https://review.openstack.org/16257105:00
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Versioned object Service  https://review.openstack.org/16413505:06
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openstackgerritKarolyn Chambers proposed openstack/heat-specs: Spec for stack lifecycle scheduler hint  https://review.openstack.org/13029405:18
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asalkeldKarolynChambers: you need to set this to Liberty-1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130294/4/specs/kilo/stack-lifecycle-scheduler-hint.rst05:38
asalkeldthere is a feature freeze in 2 days05:38
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skraynevsirushti: it's ok. I undertand that it's just rebase06:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: heat.conf options for transport properties default  https://review.openstack.org/16489706:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Source gnocchi alarms resources in the right way  https://review.openstack.org/16459506:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: StackTag versioned-object  https://review.openstack.org/16457006:48
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asalkeldhuangtianhua: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163743/507:03
asalkeldyou feel like re-evaluating - I posted an explaination07:03
huangtianhuaasalkeld: looking07:05
asalkeldhuangtianhua: basically if we don't have that we will never know if we need to wait for an update or not07:05
asalkeldthat is impossible to deal with07:06
huangtianhuaasalkeld: how about set stack.state to update_complete when there is no change of asg size?07:06
asalkeldthat is what will happen07:07
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asalkeldthe properties will say result in no updates for each resource, but we get the stack level state changes07:08
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asalkeldhuangtianhua: also look here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116336/35/heat/engine/resources/stack_resource.py07:09
asalkeldline 30107:09
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asalkeldwould be nice to get decouple nested in before FF07:10
huangtianhuaasalkeld: give some minutes please07:11
asalkeldsure, no problem07:11
asalkeldbtw huangtianhua please don't feel presurised by me to push through, just asking for another look07:12
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Qimingasalkeld, I was just trying to find a bug that was filed a few months ago but cannot find it now07:18
asalkeldok07:18
Qimingit is related to the resize operation of an ASG07:18
Qimingthe bug is still there I believe, though I cannot find the report at the moment07:19
asalkeldi'll have a look07:19
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Qimingbasically, when you are scaling UP a group from one instance, for example, you will expect your group will have 2 instances07:19
Qiminghowever, for whatever reason, your 2nd instance boots up very slow07:20
Qimingif the ASG is receiving another alarm at this moment, a 3rd instance, a 4th instance will be created ...07:20
Qimingin a test, we found that the group size jumped from 1 to 8 directly07:21
asalkeldthat is odd07:21
Qimingthe reason is that we were not yet setting the cooldown timestamp before the very first scaling operation is completed07:21
asalkeldi think we are now07:22
Qimingthat could be something related to the scenarios you have just talked about07:22
asalkeldhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/aws/autoscaling/autoscaling_group.py#L26707:22
Qimingoaky, line 267 is only writing the timestamp when the first scaling operation is completed, right?07:24
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Qimingso the group is still not in its cooldown period07:24
asalkeldQiming: that create complete07:25
Qiminghave to check if that bug goes away now07:25
asalkeldnote: also we we add rpc create/update we will get action locking07:26
asalkeldatm we don't have that for autoscaling07:26
QimingI see07:26
asalkeldso maybe we are getting concurrent updates07:27
asalkeld(not sure tho', need to check for that007:27
Qimingexactly, for the 2nd, 3nd alarms coming in, they are actually triggering concurrent updates07:27
Qimingthey need to know that the group is being updated07:27
asalkeldwith decouple-nested you will get ActionInProgress07:28
Qimingah, that would be great07:28
Qimingdo you mean 'I will get' or 'I am getting' now?07:29
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asalkeldQiming: will as soon as you approve some patches;)07:33
Qiming:P got it07:33
asalkeldhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/116336/07:33
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Qimingasalkeld, will spend time on it07:35
asalkeldthx07:35
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inc0good morning guys07:41
skraynevmorning all07:41
inc0thanks for all the help with versioned objects:) I'm very glad to see that there are patches for new objects!07:42
KanagarajMinc0: happy to support :)07:56
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asalkeldinc0: i think they are all in?07:59
asalkeldi might have marked the bp as done07:59
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Use oslo.log for heat_integrationtests  https://review.openstack.org/16399308:03
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shardymorning all08:11
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inc0asalkeld, only watchrule and watchdata left08:18
asalkeldok08:18
inc0but these are problematic because there is circular reference08:18
asalkeldlovely08:19
asalkeldshardy: hi08:19
asalkeldshardy: i need some reviews08:19
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shardyasalkeld: Hi, sure08:19
shadowerhey folks08:19
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asalkeldhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/116336/08:19
asalkeldshardy: from there down08:19
asalkeld(3 of them)08:20
shardyshadower: hey, sorry I'm still working on the resource init patch, hopefully get it finished this morning..08:20
asalkeldhi shadower08:20
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shardyasalkeld: FYI we're trying to get the breakpoint patch beaten into shape in time for FF08:20
asalkeldok, i was about to ask08:20
asalkeldi have 1-1 with theirry in 40mins08:21
shardywe hit some issues when functional testing updates, required some rework08:21
shardyhopefully be review-ready today, and given the previous attention I really hope we can get it in soon :)08:21
shardyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/164651/08:21
shardyasalkeld: that's a new patch it will depend on, so we can break on INIT_COMPLETE (which wasn't previously persisted to the DB)08:22
asalkeldok08:22
shardyunfortunately that broke some things, which I've nearly got worked out locally now08:22
asalkeldthose functional tests rock!08:22
shadowershardy: no worries. Anything I can help you with?08:22
shardybasically we now break before any state transition, which stops problems breaking on updates in the no-change and replace cases08:23
shardyshadower: So I'm focussing on rework of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164651/, after which https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146123/ should be good, I think08:24
shardyshadower: if you wanted to help add the remaining functional tests, that would be cool08:24
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shardyeither as a co-author of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164652/ or via another patch08:25
shardyno worries if you're busy with other stuff though08:25
shadowercool, I'll look into that08:25
* shadower has other stuff to do but this is a priority08:26
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openstackgerritKarolyn Chambers proposed openstack/heat: Implements stack lifecycle scheduler hints  https://review.openstack.org/9688908:38
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shardyasalkeld: -ENOCOFFEE moment, can you remember why we do update_with_template as an update to a new empty stack, rather than updating based on the StackResource resource_id?08:43
shardyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/116336/35/heat/engine/resources/stack_resource.py08:43
asalkeldshardy: that's only if the create failded08:44
shardyE.g at line 35508:44
shardyasalkeld: aha, there's even a comment which says that! Thanks :)08:44
asalkeldso our relaxed validation to blame there :-O08:45
shardyI thought the update code would completely replace a failed resource on update anyway08:45
shardyah, if we fail slow, got it08:45
asalkeldyeah, no stack to replace08:45
asalkeldshardy: line 301 is new08:46
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asalkeldthat comment starting at 30108:46
shardyyeah, that's non ideal, but because we've got to town with the custom constraints lately we had no choice, because at validation time everything always fails in the nested case when properties are derived from resources in the parent template08:46
shardypersonally I'm not sure if maybe per-resource custom constraints for all the things is too much, but I guess that ship has sailed now08:47
shardyParameter validation which the user defines seems clearer, lower overhead and less magical to me08:47
asalkeldbut, more manual i guess08:48
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shardyYeah, but the automatic validation has to be fail-slow in the nested case, because we don't have the real values until the stack create happens08:49
* shardy shrugs08:50
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openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Allow creating lightweight stacks  https://review.openstack.org/15977409:04
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pas-hamorning all09:18
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kairat_kushaevshardy: Hello, I read your text about authorization model in heat. I would like to prepare some kind of formal documentation based on it (and referring you as co-authors). Unfortunately, I faced with the problem: I do not know where to put it. It seems that there is no place for feature descriptions in openstack-manuals and heat docs in repository. Can I create the new heat section in one of the manuals?09:33
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Check all available support statuses  https://review.openstack.org/16500309:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-heatclient: Implement deployment-create  https://review.openstack.org/16024009:56
shardykairat_kushaev: Hi, I think perhaps we need to start an adminstrator guide like some other projects already have:09:57
shardyhttp://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/09:57
openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat-templates: Remove experimental 'heat-config-docker' hook  https://review.openstack.org/16500609:58
shadowershardy: regarding the in-place update functional test: any fast resource we can use to test that?10:00
* shadower assumes we can't have a template with RandomStrings since those are replaced10:00
shardyshadower: I was thinking of using a nested stack containing a resource group of RandomString resources10:01
shardythen pass in a different count for the group10:01
shadowercool10:01
* shardy observes RandomString is probably the most well-tested resource in the entire tree ;)10:01
shadowerlol10:01
shadowerwell it's quick to create10:01
shadowershardy: btw wildcard and nested stack tests are done, but the nested one is causing a db exception in the engine log10:02
shadowercould that be the database changes you did?10:02
shadowerit moves forward but then signalling doesn't work right10:02
shardyshadower: yeah, that's probably related to the problems I'm currently fixing with the first patch10:02
shardyhaving your test will be a good way to validate my fix :)10:02
shadowerhaha yeah10:03
shardybasically initializing the resources in service.py is the wrong thing to do for nested stacks10:03
shadowershardy: okay, I'll move on to the last test and not waste time trying to investigate why its' failing10:03
shardyshadower: good plan, hopefully I'll have the fixed version of the init_complete patch ready soon10:03
shardyshadower: other than the bugs I've introduced, are you happy with the approach in your breakpoint patch?10:04
shardyit seemed the best way to fix the update problems but open to other suggestions if you have them :)10:05
shadowershardy: nope, looks good to me10:06
shardyshadower: cool, thanks10:06
shadowerfrankly, you and zane know much more about state transitions than I do so I'm happy to defer to your judgement :-)10:06
shadowerbut yeah, if I didn't like  the approach I would have said so10:07
openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add extra columns for resource table  https://review.openstack.org/15669310:08
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat-templates: heat-config-kubelet hook  https://review.openstack.org/14088710:34
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asalkeldhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-kilo-releasenotes10:44
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asalkeldtemporary release notes10:44
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shadowershardy: okay, the tests are done10:58
shadowerthe nested one is failing10:58
shadowershardy: would you prefer if I posted them now or waited for your fixes?10:58
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shardyshadower: feel free to post them now, then I'll rebase my patch on them and hopefully we'll see the nested patch start passing11:00
shadowerokay, though I have a call now, will send them in ~20 mins11:01
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asalkeldgit log --no-merges  --pretty=oneline 2014.2..HEAD | wc -l11:07
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat-templates: Boot config to deploy containers using 'docker-compose' hook  https://review.openstack.org/16457211:19
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openstackgerritTomas Sedovic proposed openstack/heat: Add a functional test for hooks/breakpoints  https://review.openstack.org/16465211:43
shadowershardy: ^11:43
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openstackgerritAnastasia Kuznetsova proposed openstack/heat: Add integration scenario test for Neutron LBaaS  https://review.openstack.org/16218411:49
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat-templates: Update example template for 'docker-compose' hook  https://review.openstack.org/16504412:04
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openstackgerritPeter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat-specs: Improvements in deprecation process  https://review.openstack.org/15323512:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Add extra columns for resource table  https://review.openstack.org/15669312:20
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openstackgerritLiangChen proposed openstack/heat: Docker plugin add restart policies and capability properties  https://review.openstack.org/16327712:32
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openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Allow creating lightweight stacks  https://review.openstack.org/15977412:38
kodokuHi, Is it possible to make repeat ressource in HOT file ?  e.g I declare one nova:server but I can repeat this ressource with a parameters12:40
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shadowerkodoku: sounds like ResourceGroup is what you want: http://docs.openstack.org/hot-reference/content/OS__Heat__ResourceGroup.html12:43
kodokushadower Thx ;)12:44
shadowernp :-)12:44
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Check all available support statuses  https://review.openstack.org/16500312:47
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openstackgerritAnastasia Kuznetsova proposed openstack/heat: Add integration scenario test for Neutron LBaaS  https://review.openstack.org/16218413:26
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kodokuHi, I have issue with my HOT file. I add description in my file but in horizon I have always "Create a new stack with the provided values" in description.13:54
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openstackgerritTetiana Lashchova proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Trove::Cluster resource  https://review.openstack.org/15946314:48
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openstackgerritAnastasia Kuznetsova proposed openstack/heat: Add integration scenario test for Neutron LBaaS  https://review.openstack.org/16218414:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Check all available support statuses  https://review.openstack.org/16500315:02
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add way to collect map of needed attributes  https://review.openstack.org/16130615:24
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openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/heat: Versioned object - WatchRule and WatchData  https://review.openstack.org/15348716:17
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pfreundIt should be great to able to set all open ports from different sources in a securitygroup using only a parameter in a template. Has this point already been discused ?16:26
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pfreundThe usecase is a template containing 1 server, launched by a marketplace. I would like to let the user set his securitygroups rules, but I don't want to generate a new template each time.16:28
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pas-hapfreund, have you checked the new "repeat" function? IMO exactly this is described as an example in its spec16:37
pas-hahttp://specs.openstack.org/openstack/heat-specs/specs/kilo/repeat-function.html16:38
pas-hait is implemented already AFAIR16:38
pas-haor maybe I misinterpret your use case..16:39
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pfreundyes indeed it should work !16:45
pfreundthanks pas-ha16:45
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pfreundfor my usecase it will work, but I don't think it covers everything16:46
pfreundlike many ports with different protocols and destinations16:46
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openstackgerritRakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Versioned-object SyncPoint  https://review.openstack.org/16459117:32
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jdandreaCan someone please point me to *examples* that illustrate how to use stack lifecycle plug points? I only find this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/stack-lifecycle-plugpoint (trying to deduce from the source in the meantime)18:28
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nzrfI have question about using block devices as bootable volumes with heat and using source_volid. I have tried to have a bootable volume as the source, but  always get "ERROR: Neither image nor bootable volume is specified for instance" the reason for the bootable volume is I am trying to deploy an appliance that was converted into a image that needs to be persistent so I do not lose what data will be saved there. Usually i would just use a bootable image, but18:56
nzrf do not want to have this on ephermal storage.18:56
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openstackgerritRakesh H S proposed openstack/heat: Convergence prepare traversal  https://review.openstack.org/15944419:11
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asalkeldmorning20:50
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asalkeldzaneb: you about?20:52
asalkeldhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/163743/520:52
zanebo/20:53
zanebabout, watching the TC meeting atm20:53
asalkeldok20:53
asalkeldwow, much ado about nothing20:56
asalkeldzaneb: where is the heckle channel;)20:57
zanebI think this is it20:57
asalkeldhar20:57
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zanebasalkeld: so I see your point21:02
zanebI forgot that it sets IN_PROGRESS in the thread :(21:03
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asalkeldzaneb: i kinda solve that later21:03
zanebthat seems sucky in general, not just for this specific case21:03
asalkeldyes!21:03
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zanebas in, all users will potentially have that problem21:03
zaneband now we're seeing it because we're becoming one of our own users21:04
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asalkeldyeah21:04
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asalkeldhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/116336/35/heat/engine/resources/stack_resource.py21:04
asalkeldline 301 there ^21:05
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zanebasalkeld: the good news is that convergence will solve this ;)21:06
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zanebno threads required21:06
asalkeldzaneb: well, it will hide it21:06
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asalkeldas the update will work21:06
asalkeldbut what sucks as we still won't be ablet to say "what is the state of my update"21:07
asalkeldas we don't get an update "task id"21:07
asalkeldwe probably should have "stack/action/<task>/state21:08
zanebwe could actually do that. convergence creates an update task id internally21:08
asalkeld+1 to exposing that21:08
asalkeldmaybe api v221:08
zanebyeah21:09
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asalkeldso the user can actaully track what's going on21:09
asalkeldzaneb: anyways if you can elaborate more on your issue with that patch or approve it please, cos' my other patches depend on it and time is running out21:13
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zanebcleared my -121:14
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asalkeldno +2 ?21:15
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asalkeldzaneb: so what is stopping you from approving?21:22
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asalkeldi still haven't see any good technical argument why that is no good21:23
asalkeldmakes it difficult to progress21:23
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asalkeldstevebaker: you do client releases quiet often, can you have a look at this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155072/521:30
asalkeld(not sure if you already have)21:30
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asalkeldzaneb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/143334022:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1433340 in heat "stack actions do not guarantee that the stack will be placed into IN_PROGRESS by the time they return" [High,Triaged]22:24
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asalkeldok, bbl - taking kids to schools22:25
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asalkeldsdake: ping23:13
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asalkeldand the rain sets in23:23
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