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stevebaker | lipinski: isn't block_device_mapping only for boot-from-volume? | 00:34 |
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lipinski | stevebaker: I'm not sure to be honest. | 00:35 |
lipinski | We used to use both - block_device_mapping and a VolumeAttachment. Things worked fine, but then some users took our templates to Juno and said they didn't work because of this. | 00:36 |
lipinski | Now, with trying to boot from volume, there is block_device_mapping_v2 - which is undocumented as far as I can tell. So, now I'm really confused. | 00:36 |
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stevebaker | lipinski: there has been no python-novaclient release yet which includes block_device_mapping_v2 | 00:43 |
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lipinski | ok, then I guess I'm confused. Christoph mentioned that it worked in IceHouse in bug 1358624 | 00:49 |
openstack | bug 1358624 in heat "Config Drive not created when boot from volume" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1358624 - Assigned to Deliang Fan (vanderliang) | 00:49 |
lipinski | Because of that comment, my management has asked us to hand-patch our IceHouse environment to make it so we can boot VMs from a cinder volume with Heat. | 00:49 |
lipinski | But, that leads me down the rabbit hole of bdm vs bdm_v2 vs VolumeAttachment, and trying to get that to work. | 00:49 |
lipinski | I guess since the patch is not yet approved, I'll have to push back to mgmt. I'm somewhat stuck here without a solution for booting a VM from a Cinder Volume in Heat on IceHouse. | 00:50 |
stevebaker | lipinski: can you do it from nova? If you can't then heat is not the problem. If you can then you could debug the nova call and figure out why the heat one is different | 00:58 |
stevebaker | block_device_mapping_v2 is so new it must be not related to your icehouse situation | 00:59 |
lipinski | My problem is bug 1358624 | 01:00 |
openstack | bug 1358624 in heat "Config Drive not created when boot from volume" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1358624 - Assigned to Deliang Fan (vanderliang) | 01:00 |
lipinski | The title is misleading | 01:00 |
lipinski | I Want to create a Cinder volume based on an image. And, create a VM which uses that Volume. | 01:00 |
lipinski | Creating the volume is no problem. It is that it won't attach to the VM. | 01:01 |
lipinski | From what I can tell, the problem is Heat not sending the dest=volume option to nova | 01:01 |
lipinski | based on comments in the bug | 01:01 |
stevebaker | hmm, maybe a python-novaclient release isn't needed | 01:02 |
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lipinski | Not sure. Deliang's comments and code change are over my head. I didn't understand the whole v2 thing. | 01:02 |
stevebaker | lipinski: so does setting dest=volume require block_device_mapping_v2? | 01:03 |
lipinski | I think that's what others are claiming causes Heat to set the dest=volume in the nova call | 01:03 |
lipinski | I can get it to partially work with the Heat server.py patch. no change to nova. | 01:04 |
lipinski | My problem then comes in that I have two volumes I want to attach - one boot, and a second (data) volume. | 01:04 |
lipinski | I have some VMs that boot from volume, some do not. | 01:04 |
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lipinski | So, now I'm down the path of using bdm for attaching a second disk to some, using bdm_v2 for ones that boot from volume, not knowing if I need VolumeAttachment resources, etc. | 01:05 |
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lipinski | I have 3 possibilities to support: a VM with volume attached as vdb for data disk; a VM with a volume attached as vda for boot disk; or a VM with both a volume attached as vda for boot and another as vdb for data | 01:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-specs: Convergence Database schema changes https://review.openstack.org/152302 | 01:27 |
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stevebaker | lipinski: well, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153454/ is in review, so once it has landed we can decide what to do. Possibly backport to stable/juno and you'll need to carry the patch to icehouse | 02:46 |
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cmyster | morning | 03:58 |
sdake_ | hey cmyster | 04:01 |
cmyster | heya sdake_ funny seeing you about at these hours ? | 04:01 |
sdake_ | 9pm? | 04:02 |
sdake_ | not all that late | 04:02 |
cmyster | oh I though you were at some American time... | 04:02 |
sdake_ | arizona ;-) | 04:02 |
cmyster | thats 9pm... | 04:03 |
sdake_ | but ya, east coast is midnight | 04:03 |
cmyster | I need WAYYYY more coffee | 04:03 |
cmyster | its 6am here | 04:03 |
sdake_ | early | 04:03 |
sdake_ | I am usally rolling by 7am | 04:03 |
cmyster | ja, but when I leave at 3pm to pick up my kid no one can ask me to log back in asap | 04:04 |
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asalkeld_ | brb, picking kids up | 04:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Gauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/heat: Remove extra space in docstring https://review.openstack.org/156468 | 05:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Add extra data to Stack table for Convergence. https://review.openstack.org/155211 | 05:55 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/156474 | 06:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Add extra data to Stack table for Convergence. https://review.openstack.org/155211 | 06:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Add extra data to Stack table for Convergence. https://review.openstack.org/155211 | 07:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add functional test for AWS loadbalancer https://review.openstack.org/153192 | 07:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-specs: "repeat" function for HOT templates https://review.openstack.org/140849 | 08:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Rackspace:LoadBalancer add address in virtualIps https://review.openstack.org/154562 | 08:47 |
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pas-ha | morning all | 08:59 |
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shardy | morning all | 09:04 |
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asalkeld | hi | 09:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Move logging to use oslo_log library https://review.openstack.org/156323 | 09:24 |
openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Sync oslo-incubator and remove log module https://review.openstack.org/156324 | 09:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Add extra data to Stack table for Convergence. https://review.openstack.org/155211 | 09:39 |
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ananta | Good morning/afternoon/evening all | 09:44 |
ananta | need some help for a patch I am working on | 09:44 |
ananta | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155211/5/heat/db/sqlalchemy/api.py | 09:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/156474 | 10:55 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Remove extra space in docstring https://review.openstack.org/156468 | 10:57 |
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asalkeld | heat.tests.db.test_migrations.TestHeatMigrationsSQLite.test_walk_versions 12.948 | 11:13 |
asalkeld | slow test! | 11:14 |
openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Use stack.validate() not stack.create() for limit tests https://review.openstack.org/155237 | 11:16 |
openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move nested stack delete test to functional https://review.openstack.org/155238 | 11:16 |
openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Don't pass the parent_resource object into Stack() https://review.openstack.org/156546 | 11:16 |
openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Remove the template mapping from the env before creating child stacks https://review.openstack.org/156547 | 11:16 |
asalkeld | shardy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156324/3 | 11:20 |
asalkeld | what if an external plugin uses log from heat? | 11:20 |
skraynev | asalkeld: Imo it's expected, because it uses postgress , mysql, sqlite and use snake algorithm... | 11:21 |
shardy | asalkeld: Hmm, I'm not sure, it's the same problem for all oslo graduations isn't it? | 11:21 |
shardy | over time we've been removing a bunch of stuff from heat/openstack/common where incubator has removed it | 11:21 |
asalkeld | maybe your normal empty module that import the right thing? | 11:22 |
skraynev | asalkeld: I don't see any way how to make it faster except combine some migrations :) | 11:22 |
shardy | But then we'll pollute heat/openstack/common with stuff that doesn't exist in incubator? | 11:22 |
asalkeld | that should have been done in oslo-incubator | 11:22 |
asalkeld | shrug, no one seemed to care there | 11:22 |
asalkeld | we need a plugin from last release | 11:23 |
asalkeld | that runs in the gate | 11:23 |
shardy | I added a shim in incubator for stuff which affects operators (request_id which was referenced in the pasted config), but I don't know if we can really avoid this for plugins | 11:24 |
shardy | The oslo graduation strategy hasn't been handled well IMO, they should've added deprecation warnings to incubator then ensured things were synced | 11:24 |
asalkeld | skraynev: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152303/ | 11:24 |
asalkeld | can you review this (you have to implment it:-O) | 11:25 |
shardy | in most cases, AFAICT that didn't happen, or at least not over a reasonable time | 11:25 |
skraynev | asalkeld: yeah I know, laso I work on some changes in merged spec :) | 11:25 |
skraynev | asalkeld: this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152302/5/specs/kilo/convergence-resource-table.rst | 11:26 |
shardy | asalkeld: Yeah, ideally all that stuff could be handled via grenade, but getting even basic integration with that has proven impossible | 11:26 |
shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86978/ | 11:26 |
asalkeld | yeah, always more to do | 11:26 |
shardy | After nearly a year of trying, sdague wants us to wait until L :\ | 11:26 |
skraynev | asalked: anyway will take a look after later launch ;) | 11:26 |
skraynev | shardy: don't remind me about it... | 11:27 |
skraynev | shardy: I told with him yesterday. | 11:27 |
skraynev | shardy: one good news, that he promised to use our grenade job for demonstrating new approach. | 11:28 |
shardy | skraynev: Ah, well that's something I suppose | 11:28 |
skraynev | I hope it not so bad replacement, but yes... we will not get grenade in K :( | 11:28 |
shardy | still frustrating though, it's proven a very difficult process to participate in | 11:29 |
asalkeld | L should be Late :-O | 11:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Move logging to use oslo_log library https://review.openstack.org/156323 | 11:47 |
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skraynev | asalkeld: we could cancel merge for removing log module... if you really think that it's bad practice. | 11:54 |
asalkeld | skraynev: i think it ok | 11:55 |
skraynev | ok. let's wait a merge ;) | 11:55 |
skraynev | or I wrong interpreted your ok ? :) and we should cancel it. | 11:56 |
asalkeld | let it merge | 11:56 |
skraynev | fuh. glad to hear it | 11:57 |
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asalkeld | g'night | 12:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Drago proposed openstack/heat: Fix Keystoneclient V2 wrapper for multi-region https://review.openstack.org/155798 | 15:07 |
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alextricity | stevebaker: Am now | 15:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Sync oslo-incubator and remove log module https://review.openstack.org/156324 | 15:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add extra columns for resource table https://review.openstack.org/156693 | 18:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add image_id property to node group template https://review.openstack.org/139989 | 18:26 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add sahara image constraint https://review.openstack.org/150076 | 18:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add functional test for AWS loadbalancer https://review.openstack.org/153192 | 18:40 |
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alextricity | Is there any way to not rebuild a server on a stack update? | 18:48 |
shardy | alextricity: It depends which properties you're changing: | 18:49 |
shardy | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Nova::Server | 18:49 |
shardy | See "Can be updated without replacement." vs "Updates cause replacement." | 18:50 |
alextricity | I'm not changing any of the properties, yet my server still rebuilds :( | 18:50 |
shardy | alextricity: Is the server inside a ResourceGroup? | 18:50 |
alextricity | shardy: No....hmm..maybe i'm doing something wrong | 18:51 |
shardy | alextricity: If you don't update the template, Heat shouldn't do anything at all | 18:51 |
alextricity | When asked for parameters on a stack-update, I can just input the same ones I did on creation right | 18:51 |
randallburt | alextricity: yep | 18:51 |
shardy | alextricity: Yes | 18:51 |
alextricity | How about software configs/deployment? Would an update on a software deployment cause the server to rebuild at all? | 18:52 |
shardy | It shouldn't do, no | 18:53 |
alextricity | interesting...okay. For some reason my server loses networking after an update -- and that's without changing it's properties | 18:54 |
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alextricity | Would personality files cause it to rebuild? It's a static personality file, but I see in the docs that updates cause replacement. Does it just assume to replace it on a stack-update? | 19:08 |
alextricity | or would only a personality file that has changed replace the old one? | 19:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat-specs: Update stack-tags spec to reflect recent changes https://review.openstack.org/155069 | 19:20 |
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stevebaker | alextricity: hi | 20:00 |
alextricity | stevebaker: howdy | 20:00 |
alextricity | stevebaker: you pinged earlier? | 20:01 |
stevebaker | were you having deployment in_progress issues? | 20:02 |
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alextricity | Yeah, I managed to get around it, but the problem is still there. For some reason running a script to install an app from source causes the software deployment resource to hang | 20:02 |
alextricity | for now i've set the signal transport method to NO_SIGNAL | 20:03 |
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alextricity | All the script does is install an app from source...you know..the typically 'configure make make install | 20:03 |
stevebaker | alextricity: this answer has debugging tips for signalling issues. https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/42657/how-to-debug-scripts-at-heats-softwareconfig-resource/?answer=55048#post-id-55048 | 20:03 |
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alextricity | Ah yes :) I remember spending an evening in front of that page. The Signal goes through just fine on a dummy script like "echo 'foo'", it's only whey I run the 'configure make make install' script when it hangs | 20:05 |
alextricity | but oh well. it's probably something in the scripts | 20:05 |
alextricity | the make scripts that is | 20:06 |
stevebaker | yes, sudo os-collect-config --force --one-time --debug should show you. | 20:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Miguel Grinberg proposed openstack/heat: "repeat" function for HOT templates https://review.openstack.org/156744 | 20:14 |
alextricity | ^^ Nice patch set | 20:19 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/156749 | 20:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Add stack_tag table and remove stack.tags column https://review.openstack.org/155496 | 20:29 |
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randallburt | wow, I'm having miguelgrinberg propose all my specs from now on. | 20:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add image_id property to node group template https://review.openstack.org/139989 | 20:52 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add sahara image constraint https://review.openstack.org/150076 | 20:52 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add functional test for AWS loadbalancer https://review.openstack.org/153192 | 20:55 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add functional test for AWS loadbalancer https://review.openstack.org/153192 | 20:56 |
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asalkeld | #info we will be freezing stable/icehouse on Thu Feb 19 for the 2014.1.4 release | 21:03 |
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asalkeld | from cross project meeting: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150653/3/specs/testing-guidelines.rst | 21:21 |
alextricity | Turns out that the reason my server was losing networking after a stack-update is because of the implicit REPLACE_ALWAYS on my port resource. | 21:21 |
alextricity | Changed it to AUTO and all is well | 21:21 |
asalkeld | anyone interested in functional testing can review that ^ | 21:21 |
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stevebaker | asalkeld: looks good | 21:27 |
asalkeld | also if someone wants to sign up for to be a mentor: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GSoC2015 | 21:28 |
asalkeld | stevebaker: thanks | 21:28 |
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asalkeld | 3 days left ^ | 21:28 |
stevebaker | asalkeld: I wonder if the lack of .au/.nz elegibility for GSoC applies only to students, or mentors too | 21:28 |
* asalkeld is not sure | 21:29 | |
asalkeld | stevebaker: i see quite a few students from india | 21:29 |
asalkeld | tz is ok with india | 21:30 |
stevebaker | wrong kind of heat https://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/presentation/challenges-and-advantages-of-a-highly-distributed-cloud-that-also-heats-homes | 21:32 |
asalkeld | o, yeah saw that last time | 21:33 |
asalkeld | insteresting | 21:33 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Deployment signal_transport: TEMP_URL_SIGNAL https://review.openstack.org/151526 | 21:33 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Integration test for software-config tools https://review.openstack.org/113711 | 21:33 |
asalkeld | using server "heat" to warm homes | 21:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat-templates: heat-config-notify support deploy_signal_verb https://review.openstack.org/156805 | 22:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Winnie Tsang proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Reuse existing registry and/or existing template https://review.openstack.org/154692 | 23:07 |
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asalkeld | dang openstack summit ~= docker summit (going by the number of talks) | 23:07 |
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asalkeld | https://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/presentation/stack-open-physical-infrastructure-you-can-take-with-you | 23:14 |
asalkeld | i need one of those ^ | 23:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/156749 | 23:59 |
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