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| tiantian | qiming&asalkeld: about to apply neutron constraint patches, have a look:) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135835/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135875/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135880/ | 03:02 |
| Qiming | 23 patchsets ... | 03:04 |
| tiantian | ? | 03:04 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: hey, you about | 03:04 |
| Qiming | tiantian, the only reason that I wasn't actively tracking this is that I'm not sure we should do such an eager validation | 03:05 |
| Qiming | I'm still studying the property validation code | 03:05 |
| Qiming | tiantian, can you tell me what happens if a Nova server is referencing a Neutron port while the Neutron port is yet to be created? | 03:08 |
| tiantian | Qiming: the port should be created before server creation, right? | 03:09 |
| Qiming | yes, but ... validation happens before creation? | 03:10 |
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| tiantian | Qiming: I think so | 03:10 |
| Qiming | A. port validate, B. port create, C. server validate D. server create | 03:11 |
| tiantian | Qiming: right:) | 03:11 |
| Qiming | what's the sequence? A->C->B->D | 03:12 |
| tiantian | A-B-C-D | 03:12 |
| Qiming | hm... okay, maybe I have some misunderstanding here | 03:12 |
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| Qiming | tiantian, http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/engine/stack.py#n480 | 03:14 |
| Qiming | this line tells me that all resources are validated before creation | 03:15 |
| Qiming | so, the validation may happen twice, first without value, then with value? | 03:15 |
| Qiming | I'm not sure I totally understand this line: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/engine/resource.py#n844 | 03:17 |
| asalkeld | Qiming: that's for nested stacks | 03:18 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/stack_resource.py#L63 | 03:19 |
| Qiming | asalkeld, ah ... there it is | 03:19 |
| asalkeld | as the nested stack can't resolve the parent functions | 03:19 |
| Qiming | hmm, so the validation cannot be a thorough one | 03:20 |
| asalkeld | strict validation is good, but there seems to be a need for lots of work arounds | 03:20 |
| asalkeld | Qiming: yip | 03:20 |
| Qiming | asalkeld, yes, agree | 03:20 |
| Qiming | it may lead to adhoc hacks here and there, though I love strict validation | 03:21 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/heat/commit/e1e852856047313159699f6a814135b6a6fde5e5 | 03:22 |
| Qiming | okay, 'skips validation if resource is in INIT state', that is the 'hack' I'm referring to | 03:23 |
| asalkeld | the only way around this, imho, is to generate samle data | 03:25 |
| asalkeld | sample | 03:25 |
| asalkeld | for params, refs, etc | 03:25 |
| Qiming | so ... the first round of global validation completely ignores the constraints, because they are in INIT state | 03:25 |
| huangtianhua | go away for a while, so much discussion | 03:26 |
| asalkeld | Qiming: that's ok'ish, mostly checking the basic structure of the template | 03:26 |
| Qiming | then the second round, performed when creation, will do another round of validation ... but this time it is checked more strictly | 03:26 |
| huangtianhua | I remembered there are many many times validations :) | 03:28 |
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| asalkeld | we probably need caching | 03:28 |
| asalkeld | so we don't ask the services the same thing within a short time | 03:28 |
| huangtianhua | asalkeld: +1 :) | 03:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Manage deployment updated_at values https://review.openstack.org/154308 | 03:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Move deployment handle_signal to rpc call https://review.openstack.org/154309 | 03:33 |
| Qiming | asalkeld, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155329/ | 03:40 |
| asalkeld | looking | 03:40 |
| Qiming | I was trying to clarify the protocol there -- how do we ensure the docs are up to date | 03:40 |
| asalkeld | i think she is just saying that people will see the new api before the code | 03:41 |
| asalkeld | doh | 03:42 |
| asalkeld | i think she is just saying that people will see the new api *docs* before the code | 03:42 |
| Qiming | that would be okay to me | 03:42 |
| asalkeld | (tho' that assumes you don't chase trunk) | 03:42 |
| Qiming | but she was actually saying "wait to merge these until Kilo is available to API users." | 03:42 |
| asalkeld | yeah, that assumes a lot | 03:43 |
| Qiming | maybe a workflow -1 would be better, :) | 03:43 |
| asalkeld | that people only consume official versions | 03:43 |
| Qiming | btw, asalkeld, huangtianhua and I will disappear for about two weeks | 03:45 |
| asalkeld | wow, you guys are magicians | 03:45 |
| asalkeld | ;) | 03:45 |
| Qiming | it is Chinese New Year's days | 03:45 |
| asalkeld | cool, enjoy | 03:45 |
| Qiming | tradition is go back hometown to reunion with whomever you haven't talked to in years | 03:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Apply neutron network constraint https://review.openstack.org/135823 | 03:47 |
| asalkeld | yeah, I heard we have a big Chinese community here: http://www.sydneychinesenewyear.com/ | 03:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add 'ha' property for OS::Neutron::Router https://review.openstack.org/143925 | 03:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Change Nova::FloatingIPAssociation resource's id https://review.openstack.org/137628 | 03:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Change Neutron::FloatingIPAssociation res's name https://review.openstack.org/137799 | 03:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Convergence message bus https://review.openstack.org/153999 | 04:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: [DOC] Minor - fixed typo in file extension https://review.openstack.org/155912 | 05:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Move AWS::EC2::* resources to heat/engine/resources/aws/ec2 https://review.openstack.org/155689 | 06:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Move AWS::CloudFormation::* resources to heat/engine/resources/aws/cfn https://review.openstack.org/156005 | 06:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Move other aws resources to corresponding directory https://review.openstack.org/156009 | 06:29 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Move nova resources to engine/resources/openstack/nova/ https://review.openstack.org/156012 | 06:31 |
| skraynev | good morning | 06:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Move cinder volume resource https://review.openstack.org/156014 | 06:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Move heat resources https://review.openstack.org/156035 | 06:48 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Move sahara resources https://review.openstack.org/156036 | 06:50 |
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| inc0 | good morning | 07:33 |
| inc0 | asalkeld, ping | 07:34 |
| asalkeld | hi inc0 | 07:34 |
| inc0 | hi, could you take a look here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154820/ | 07:34 |
| inc0 | I could use second opinion | 07:34 |
| inc0 | I'm trying to push this field to oslo, but we might end up implementing it in heat | 07:35 |
| asalkeld | what do we need it for? | 07:36 |
| asalkeld | what field | 07:36 |
| inc0 | stack field | 07:36 |
| inc0 | I mean in stack | 07:36 |
| asalkeld | what field in the stack table? | 07:36 |
| inc0 | parameters | 07:37 |
| inc0 | and more importantly, template in raw templates | 07:38 |
| asalkeld | did you explain that? | 07:38 |
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| inc0 | yup | 07:38 |
| inc0 | problem is, it seems that only heat have this extensive, big, nested datastructures | 07:38 |
| asalkeld | inc0: we do have seriazation for this : see Template class | 07:39 |
| asalkeld | but the issue is how it is written to the db? | 07:39 |
| inc0 | I know, but I don't really want to use string field for that | 07:39 |
| inc0 | its sqlalchemy.json_field | 07:39 |
| asalkeld | can we define our own types? | 07:39 |
| inc0 | so sqlalchemy does low level handling | 07:40 |
| inc0 | yeah, we can | 07:40 |
| asalkeld | if we can, just do that and move on | 07:40 |
| asalkeld | the only similar thing in nova might be metadata | 07:40 |
| asalkeld | how is that done | 07:40 |
| inc0 | metadata its just key->value | 07:41 |
| inc0 | so its doable with normal dict | 07:41 |
| asalkeld | and value can be *anything* | 07:41 |
| inc0 | but they don't care about that | 07:41 |
| asalkeld | and neither do we | 07:41 |
| inc0 | well, I'll talk to them for a day or two, and if that wont work I'll just implement it on heat | 07:42 |
| inc0 | in* | 07:42 |
| asalkeld | ok, i don't see that as a big issue | 07:43 |
| inc0 | I'll get back to this topic when someone else will try to implement json field;) | 07:43 |
| asalkeld | ok | 07:44 |
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| shardy | jamielennox: Hey, if you're around, I wondered if you had any thoughts of the best way to fix bug #1420987 ? | 08:06 |
| openstack | bug 1420987 in heat "Heat not working with keystoneclient_v2" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1420987 | 08:06 |
| shardy | reporter says it's a regression caused by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146368 but I've not had time to confirm that | 08:07 |
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| cmyster | morning | 09:07 |
| cmyster | -ish | 09:07 |
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| cmyster | shardy: there ? | 11:30 |
| shardy | cmyster: hi | 11:34 |
| cmyster | hey, how was the weekend ? | 11:34 |
| shardy | Qiming: Hey, did you figure out the oslo_log config setup in the end? | 11:34 |
| shardy | Qiming: http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-dev/2015-01/msg01179.html | 11:34 |
| shardy | I'm looking at re-syncing oslo and ran into the same issue | 11:35 |
| Qiming | shardy, no | 11:35 |
| shardy | cmyster: Hey, good thanks, and you? | 11:35 |
| cmyster | can't complain too hard ;) | 11:35 |
| shardy | Qiming: Ok, np, just wanted to check we weren't duplicating effort, I'll add you to the review when I figure it out :) | 11:35 |
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| cmyster | shardy: is there a way ATM to ask Heat to give me an exact list of parameters for a certain resource? | 11:35 |
| Qiming | shardy, sure | 11:35 |
| shardy | cmyster: you mean the properties that it takes? | 11:36 |
| shardy | s/takes/supports | 11:36 |
| cmyster | something like that | 11:36 |
| shardy | cmyster: heat resource-type-show gives you the schema, if that helps? | 11:37 |
| cmyster | bingo, thanks... I knew we had it just forgot how | 11:37 |
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| inc0 | guys, review plz https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154835/ -> required for versionedobjects to work with heat | 12:00 |
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| asalkeld | inc0: done | 12:09 |
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| inc0 | asalkeld, basically tzinfo was injected for legacy objects according to Dan's remarks above. I guess that shouldn't be the case now, and for sure shouldn't be the case in oslo - it directly mess up with data | 12:12 |
| asalkeld | inc0: cool - just add to commit message | 12:13 |
| asalkeld | ditch the json type (add that to heat tree) | 12:13 |
| inc0 | oki, I'll confirm that with Dan as well | 12:13 |
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| alextricity | Hello :) Has anybody had a software deployment resource get stuck in the "create in progress" state? I'm logging the output of my config script and I know the script is finishing, but for some reason the software deploy resources just hangs. | 15:33 |
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| ryansb | alextricity: that can happen if networking fails and the softwareconfig can't tell heat it's done running | 15:54 |
| alextricity | Hmm..i see | 15:55 |
| cmyster | wasn't there an open bug there ? | 15:55 |
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| alextricity | What SIGNAL does the software deploy resource send heat to tell it that it's finished? | 16:02 |
| alextricity | Anyway I can do that manually? | 16:02 |
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| shadower | alextricity: if you do heat resource-shouw <stack_name> <resource_name> for the software deployment, you should see a URL that you can ping manually | 16:25 |
| shadower | iirc it's just POST to the URL (though it may be more involved, not sure now) | 16:25 |
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| alextricity | Something in my config script is causing the software deployment resource to hang. When I take the script out it works just fine....hmm... | 17:13 |
| alextricity | All my script does is install an application from source | 17:13 |
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| alextricity | Are there any timeouts for software deployments/configs I need to be aware of? | 17:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed openstack/heat: Rackspace:LoadBalancer add address in virtualIps https://review.openstack.org/154562 | 17:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Move logging to use oslo_log library https://review.openstack.org/156323 | 18:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Sync oslo-incubator and remove log module https://review.openstack.org/156324 | 18:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed openstack/heat: Rackspace:LoadBalancer add address in virtualIps https://review.openstack.org/154562 | 18:38 |
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| shardy | alextricity: does the script work if you run it manually by sshing onto the box? | 18:40 |
| alextricity | Yes, the script runs just fine. I set up logging with it and I can see it running, and eventually finishing. | 18:40 |
| shardy | alextricity: the most likely reason is networking, either the script can't read wherever the source is, or it can't signal heat when the Deployment is done | 18:40 |
| alextricity | shardy: I told the deployment to have a "signal_transport" of NO_SIGNAL for now. My dirty workaround was to swan a new deployment/config resource waiting for the script to finish. | 18:42 |
| shardy | alextricity: Are you specifying anything for "signal_transport", or using the default (on the Deployment resource) | 18:42 |
| alextricity | That seems to work fine | 18:42 |
| alextricity | shardy: I was using the default before setting it to NO_SIGNAL | 18:42 |
| shardy | alextricity: Ok, so your networking isn't allowing the agent to talk to heat-api-cfn (or you've not got it running) | 18:42 |
| alextricity | The default works just fine without me running my script. Something in the 'configure, make, make install' process for this app is breaking the signal | 18:43 |
| shardy | alextricity: weird, so a dummy script like echo "foo" > /tmp works fine without NO_SIGNAL? | 18:43 |
| alextricity | yes | 18:44 |
| shardy | hrm, not networking then, odd | 18:44 |
| alextricity | indeed. I <3 technology | 18:44 |
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| Tango|2 | Quick question: is it possible to do a resource-show on a resource in a nested stack? | 18:56 |
| alextricity | Probably not since heat views that entire nested stack as one resource, right? | 18:58 |
| alextricity | I heard that they made it easier to debug nested stacks in juno however | 18:58 |
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| Tango|2 | resource-list with a -n option would show the nested resources, but resource-show does not recognize the nested resource, and there is no depth option for resource-show | 19:13 |
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| alextricity | you could just poke around the database to see if it's in there | 19:21 |
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| Tango|2 | Yes, but it would be a little hard for typical user. | 19:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Winnie Tsang proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Reuse existing registry and/or existing template https://review.openstack.org/154692 | 19:57 |
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| kfox1111 | man, my luck with openstack the last 2 weeks has been bad. :/ | 21:44 |
| kfox1111 | ok, heat bug this time.... | 21:44 |
| kfox1111 | Tried to delete a heat stack as an admin that did not create it. | 21:44 |
| kfox1111 | it failed while deleting the floatingip. | 21:45 |
| kfox1111 | tried it again. it had already deleted the project, and its failing now since it doesnt exist. :/ | 21:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Stop RPC server gracefully https://review.openstack.org/156118 | 22:04 |
| stevebaker | kfox1111: that should be fixed in master | 22:09 |
| stevebaker | alextricity: still about? | 22:09 |
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| ryansb | oops. | 22:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Move logging to use oslo_log library https://review.openstack.org/156323 | 22:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Sync oslo-incubator and remove log module https://review.openstack.org/156324 | 22:28 |
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| Tango|2 | stevebaker: Hi Steve | 22:34 |
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| stevebaker | Tango|2: hi | 22:49 |
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| Tango|2 | stevebaker: I interested in working on a software config hook for fig/compose, so I would like to get your thought | 22:50 |
| Tango|2 | stevebaker: Do you think it should be a separate hook altogether, or a modification from a current hook? | 22:51 |
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| stevebaker | Tango|2: sounds like a good idea. I'd also like the docker hook to devolve into deploying only a single container instead of our partial support of the kubernetes format. | 22:52 |
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| stevebaker | Tango|2: so we can end up with hoods for docker (one container), fig/compose(multi containers), and kubelet(multi containers) | 22:53 |
| stevebaker | hooks | 22:53 |
| Tango|2 | stevebaker: Single container like what you would get with a Dockerfile? | 22:53 |
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| stevebaker | Tango|2: like a straight replacement for the DockerInc::Docker::Container resource http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/contrib.html#dockerinc-resource | 22:54 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: ^^ | 22:54 |
| Tango|2 | stevebaker: I see. That's good, so we would have a more uniform and consistent way to handle container | 22:55 |
| stevebaker | people can use the agent/format they prefer (or have already adopted outside of heat). kubernetes, compose or raw docker | 22:56 |
| Tango|2 | stevebaker: Right, that's why I would like to fill the gap in using fig/compose. So I guess I should start with a spec for review, and incorporate feedback from everyone? | 22:57 |
| stevebaker | Tango|2: A Wishlist bug on the heat-templates launchpad would likely be enough | 23:04 |
| Tango|2 | OK, let me start with that | 23:05 |
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| lipinski | Where can I find information about using block_device_mapping vs VolumeAttachment? | 23:43 |
| lipinski | They seem to be identical, and we have used both thus far, but are learning that in Juno, there are problems with using both for attaching a volume to a VM. | 23:44 |
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