Thursday, 2014-07-10

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asalkeldzaneb, are you still about?01:06
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Support loading resources from stevedore extensions  https://review.openstack.org/10304401:47
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use setuptools to install contrib plugins  https://review.openstack.org/10533401:47
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Convert functions into a fixed part of the template  https://review.openstack.org/10348401:47
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openstackgerritYaoguo Jiang proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add template version for the provider template  https://review.openstack.org/9699902:01
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Add log translation hints for Heat  https://review.openstack.org/10595202:51
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Add log translation hints for Heat  https://review.openstack.org/10595202:59
elynnmorning all :)03:04
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tiantianhi all:)03:06
zanebasalkeld_: no ;)03:11
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asalkeld_hey zaneb - np - must be late for you03:20
asalkeld_I am heading off too03:20
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Add log translation hints for Heat  https://review.openstack.org/10595203:22
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix H201 violations and re-enable gating  https://review.openstack.org/10277803:49
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix H201 violations and re-enable gating  https://review.openstack.org/10277804:15
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openstackgerritYaoguo Jiang proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add template version for the provider template  https://review.openstack.org/9699905:54
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openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement custom constraints for subnet/port/router  https://review.openstack.org/10510105:58
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/10497506:02
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liushengzaneb: Hi, thanks for your review about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102778/, I have replied you and uploaded a new ps, would you please take a look again if you have time?06:39
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therveGood morning07:02
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skraynevMorning :)07:03
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pas-hamorning all07:06
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Implement AWS "Updates are not supported"  https://review.openstack.org/10574207:12
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shardymorning all07:24
elynnmorning shardy :)07:24
tiantianafternoon all:)07:25
Yanyanhumorning, shardy, could you please help to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104754/, I'm not sure about the current writing style of its test cases. Thanks.07:28
shardyYanyanhu: done07:42
YanyanhuThanks, I will check the comments :-)07:43
skraynevtiantian: hi.07:47
tiantian<skraynev>:)07:47
skraynevtiantian: have you change in python-heatclient for supporting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104439/5 ?07:48
shardyYanyanhu: FYI I'm not opposed to your change if we need it for an interim solution, I just would prefer that we also get the client version discovery sorted out, so we don't have to maintain all the versioned endpoints07:48
tiantian<skraynev>???07:48
tiantian<skraynev>:just for rebase07:49
tiantian<skraynev>: just press 'rebase change' button07:51
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Yanyanhushardy, I agree. I just guessed the current os-collect-config agent may doesn't know the endpoint version detail, so it just directly uses the one heat transmitted to it now. So I temporarily added this transformation here to make it work. I will change the test case writing and make some further considerations about the version discovery issue. Thanks again.08:02
ckmvishnuCan Stack.load lookup is based on uuid in stack.id. But once id is migrated to uuid, is it ok to add lookup based on integer id?08:03
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ramishrashardy: hi08:04
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ckmvishnushardy: any inputs?08:05
skraynevtiantian: sorry was afk :(08:06
skraynevtiantian: question was about part for heatclient, as I understand right you do this change for heat, not for heat-client.08:07
skraynevtiantian: an currently heatclient does not show these additional options in help08:07
skraynevtiantian: f.e. look outputs for "heat help stack-list" and  "heat help event-list"08:08
ckmvishnushardy: stack_resource.StackResource.nested loads stack based on resource_id which is stack.id. But after changes for https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1263787 load works on uuid. Should I support Id looku as well?08:08
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1263787 in heat "stack table's uuid primary key wastes resources in other tables" [High,Triaged]08:08
tiantian<skraynev>:the patch of the heatclient is to add the function08:09
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skraynevtiantian: ok. could you give a link on it?08:10
tiantian<skraynev>:https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-heatclient/+spec/events-pagination-heatclient08:10
tiantianhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/events-pagination is for heat08:11
skraynevtiantian: coll, thanks08:11
skraynev*cool08:11
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tiantian<skraynev>: be happy you are reviewing my patches :)08:17
shardyckmvishnu: Yes, if you need it, you can add a stack_uuid argument to parser.Stack.load08:17
skraynevtiantian: I promised and started it yesterday :)08:17
ckmvishnugreat. thanks08:17
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shardyckmvishnu: Do you have a patch posted with the changes for bug #1263787?08:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1263787 in heat "stack table's uuid primary key wastes resources in other tables" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126378708:18
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Revert updates to NetworkInterfaces and SubnetId  https://review.openstack.org/10599208:18
shardyI don't see it linked in the comments08:18
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ckmvishnuNot yet. I'll be pushing one for review today.08:19
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ramishrashardy: hi, when you have some time pl. have a look at my comments for https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1315048 and let me know what you think of it.08:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1315048 in heat "Circular dependency when using Ceilometer alarms" [Undecided,New]08:31
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openstackgerritjun xie proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix a misspell  https://review.openstack.org/10599408:33
shardyramishra: Interesting, thanks for looking into this!08:35
shardySo you're saying the issue is the template used by the reporter?08:35
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openstackgerritjun xie proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix several misspells  https://review.openstack.org/10599409:00
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ramishrashardy: yes09:07
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shardyramishra: But doesn't that basically mean the the ceilometer provider template can never be used for HARestarter when the instance references the alarm?09:10
shardyOr probably ScalingPolicy too?09:10
shardyI guess the next step is to see if an autoscaling example which works on AWS using AWS::CloudWatch::Alarm has the same problem09:11
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shardyramishra: provided autoscaling works with the ceilometer based cloudwatch alarm, then I think all is fine, as IMO we should deprecate HARestarter anyway09:11
ramishrayeah.. thats a problem. but we can use SoftwareConfig for conguring the alarm url for the instance and it should work09:12
shardyramishra: Hmm.  We probably still need a way to make the CFN compatible alarm resource work when backed by ceilometer09:13
shardyuntil we do that, we can't remove the nasty internal watchrule stuff :(09:13
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sabHI, I created a LoadBalancer resource, and for 'members' i mentioned an attribute, which raised StackValidationError on creation. But while on stack-delete the deletion fails with a ValueError. it doesn't recover? is this a bug?09:17
ramishrashardy: agree.. But the issue is with the script for the heartbeat.. not the alarm implementation iteslef..09:18
shardyramishra: Yeah, I'm not sure if any of the AWS examples do that..09:18
shardysab: possibly, can you raise a bug report with more details, and steps to reproduce?09:20
ramishrashardy: the simple reason it works for CWLiteAlarm is because it ignores the ALARM_ACTIONS and ignores dependancy, we would need a better example though..09:20
shardyramishra: Yeah sure, the problem is if we want to deprecate CWLiteAlarm, we need some way of making the provider resource implementation behave the same09:22
shardyAs we can't break folks with existing working tmpelates09:23
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ramishrashardy: agree. I'll spend some more time on it to look at options and then update you.09:25
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shardyramishra: sounds good, thanks!09:25
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Implement AWS "Updates are not supported"  https://review.openstack.org/10574209:42
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gilliard_~.13:32
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BillArnoldis the gate stable? saw a few failures early last evening in jenkins patch checks, not obviously related to the patch, in check-tempest-dsvm-neutron, check-grenade-dsvm, check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full13:59
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shardyBillArnold: Short answer, probably not, but then it rareley is14:04
shardyThe zuul quueue seems to have been growing so maybe there's a major issue atm, not sure what though14:04
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shardyBillArnold: hey, re your performance regression bug, how are the results looking now you have my patch and tspatzier's in master?14:05
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BillArnoldshardy in my original test case (flat 10 VM template, timing response to initial POST) the speed is now comparable to havana. I suspect that some other tests would be faster.14:17
cmysterwhat have I missed14:18
cmysterBillArnold: if you don't mind can you repeat that ?14:18
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shardycmyster: bug #132410214:19
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1324102 in heat "Slowdown in create stack request between Havana and Icehouse" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132410214:19
shardyBillArnold: That's good news! :)14:19
cmysterummm14:19
cmysterok,14:19
BillArnoldcmyster thans shardy. I've been tracking progress on fixing performance degradations post havana.14:20
therveshardy, Can I pick your brain on server metadata and software deployment?14:20
shardyBillArnold: Do you think we declare success now and close the bug, or would you prefer to keep it open to track ongoing investigations?14:20
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shardytherve: sure!14:20
shardywell I can share what little knowledge I have on the topic anyway ;)14:21
therveshardy, So it's around the area you modified. I'm seeing stuff where deployments = [] whereas there should be a value14:21
cmysterBillArnold: this is interesting because I tested the diff between the two versions on F20 qcows and there wasn't a significant diff14:21
therveshardy, AFAIU it's modified externally when you create the deployment14:21
therveBut the deployment depends on the server, so it's the deployment always created *after* ?14:21
BillArnoldcmyster - the degradation was in the response to an initial post of a heat template with a lot of resoures.14:22
shardycmyster: it will depend on the template, e.g if it has lots of custom constraints performance without tspatzier's patch will be much worse than Havana14:22
cmysterI see,14:22
cmysterthanks BillArnold I'll add that to my scripts14:22
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tspatziershardy: right. The constraint validation code that I moved out of the get value path in my patch had been there for a while, but the performance problem started with custom constraints14:23
cmystershardy: I see what you did there (my pathc) and my question to you earlier was asked 'cause you said you can halve the lines of code.14:23
cmysterpatch*14:24
shardycmyster: I meant half the number of lines doing the create config14:24
cmysterI get it now :p14:26
shardycmyster: you're welcome14:26
cmysteroh boy14:26
cmysterthanks obviously14:27
cmystera quick pm14:27
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shardytherve: Hmm, I'm sure you're right, but I cant see where that happens, any ideas?14:29
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shardyThere's  _populate_deployments_metadata in the server resource14:30
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therveshardy, You mean the EngineService.create_software_deployment thing?14:30
shardybut that's only called on create14:30
therveThere is a _push_metadata_software_deployments in EngineService14:32
shardytherve: yup, looking at it now14:32
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shardytherve: I wonder if that update should be happening via server.metadata_update?14:33
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shardySo we do the re-resolve/merge thing instead of overwriting?14:33
therveshardy, Well it should happen via an api call, but was changed because of performance issue14:33
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therveBut anyway, the metadata ends up being updated in heat correctly14:34
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therveIt's just that it was sent already to nova, so the server won't get it via the user_data14:34
therveSo... I guess heat expects the instance to refresh the metadata somehow?14:35
shardytherve: I think that's expected, so you need an agent, e.g os-collect-config polling for updates metadata14:35
shardythat's how it allows you to build the server first, then apply the config14:35
therveshardy, Yeah, except I'm not seeing that :)14:36
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shardytherve: hrm14:36
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shardySorry, I don't know why - does reverting my patch fix it?14:36
therveSo I'm testing with full heat signal, so maybe there is a bug somewhere14:36
therveshardy, AFAICT it's unrelated14:37
shardytherve: by full heat signal, do you mean the native resource-signal interface?14:37
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therveshardy, I guess. Setting things to HEAT instead of CFN on the sd resources14:37
therveie software_config_transport: POLL_SERVER_HEAT and signal_transport: HEAT_SIGNAL14:38
shardytherve: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105219/3/heat/engine/service.py14:38
shardyI think that's because of the fact that native signals don't trigger a metadata refresh?14:38
therveHum...14:39
therveI don't think so14:39
therveI don't even see calls to heat to be honest14:39
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shardytherve: do you have auth_version='v3.0' configured for auth_token in heat.conf?14:40
therveNo offense to the tripleo guys, but the whole os-* thing is really hard14:40
shardyIf not the the native auth won't work as the user is not in the default domain14:40
shardy(which doesn't work with v2 keystone)14:40
therveshardy, No14:41
shardyThat may be the issue, if the signal is getting rejected by the API14:41
cmysterwasn't there a blueprint to move to v3 only for authentication ?14:41
therveI don't think it's getting there yet14:42
therveI don't see any calls to heat, that's the weird thing14:42
therveI don't understand how it's supposed to update the local metadata14:42
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Qimingtherve, maybe this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104754/514:43
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therveQiming, Maybe I'll hit that as the next bug :)14:44
Qimingos-xx-config nees some improvement14:44
therveIt's really complicated :/14:45
therveIt doesn't seem that it should be that hard to use an agent14:45
therveThe fact that there is 25 different git repositories doesn't help14:46
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tspatziertherve: agree. I was also asking myself if we could get to _one_ client package for software config. Today it is a matter of luck to get an image that works, depending on what state all the files in different git repos are :-/14:49
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Qimingespecially true in china, where building an image out of many git sources always results in a full day staring at the progress ..14:52
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thervetspatzier, Well maybe that's my issue...14:52
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tspatziertherve: maybe. I'm also playing with all this stuff, and it seems really hard to stick together all the right versions of the different parts.14:53
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cmysterlaters,15:10
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openstackgerritWilliam C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implements stack lifecycle scheduler hints  https://review.openstack.org/9688916:45
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix OS::Trove::Instance restore_point property  https://review.openstack.org/10521016:57
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: heat_keystoneclient add get_user_token  https://review.openstack.org/10288516:59
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: stack user add _user_token  https://review.openstack.org/10288716:59
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: clients make heat_url public  https://review.openstack.org/10288617:00
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add an OS::Heat::WaitCondition resource  https://review.openstack.org/10135417:00
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add native WaitConditionHandle resource  https://review.openstack.org/10288817:00
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Convert WaitConditionHandle to use handle_signal  https://review.openstack.org/10521917:00
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor waitcondition resources to allow easier subclassing  https://review.openstack.org/10540217:00
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Don't overwrite deployments metadata in Server resource  https://review.openstack.org/10547017:00
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notmynameah! I found you!17:10
* notmyname wonders if a redirect from #openstack-heat would be appropriate17:11
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notmynameanyway, I have a question about heat. specifically around any config management it may or may not do17:11
notmynameso, first, does heat do any config management. that is, does it allow for a particular config file of the service being deployed to be written to reflect the underlying infrastructure?17:12
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zanebnotmyname: yeah, somebody was going to set up a redirect at one point, I think17:16
zanebnotmyname: Heat does basically what you describe, although we don't like to refer to it as configuration management ;)17:17
notmynameok, I can understand that :-)17:17
notmynamezaneb: ok, let me be very practical then. what's the current state of heat able to deploy swift?17:17
notmynamecan it? or is that something on someone's wishlist somewhere?17:18
zanebhttp://www.zerobanana.com/archive/2014/05/08#heat-configuration-management (blog post with the gory details if you are interested)17:18
zanebnotmyname: afaik nobody has done it17:18
notmynameok17:18
zanebTripleO are the obvious candidates17:18
zaneblast I heard they had not attempted17:18
zanebthe hard part is usually dealing with circular dependencies17:19
notmynameok17:19
notmynameconceptually, how would that work?17:19
zanebso for swift, you have to specify the addresses of all the other servers in the ring in each server's config file17:19
zaneband Heat is not designed to handle circular dependencies17:19
notmynameheat deploys triplo which deploys swift? or tripleo uses heat templates to deploy swift?17:19
zanebthe second one17:20
notmynameah ok17:20
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notmynameso maybe I should go find devananda :-)17:20
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zanebso TripleO uses Heat templates to deploy e.g. nova, keystone &c.17:20
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notmynamezaneb: but first, conceptually is it in heat's scope to build a swift ring?17:20
zanebbut afaik they haven't attempted Swift yet17:20
notmynameok17:20
notmynameor is the ring building in the scope of tripleo?17:21
zanebI think Heat needs a way to handle deployments like that, because they're quite common17:21
notmynameok17:22
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zanebone option is to use a separate lookup - e.g. DNSaaS17:22
zaneblooking forward to that showing up in OpenStack ;)17:22
notmynameand now to the real question I want to find an answer to: can I or how do I use {heat,tripleo} to deploy different storage policies in swift based on the underlying hardware17:23
zanebwe also have the software deployments feature now... and in theory that may already solve the circular dep problem, but I am not 100% sure17:23
notmynameor rather, is that heat or tripleo, and what capabilities exist now and are on the roadmap17:23
* zaneb needs to read notmyname's blog post about storage capabilities17:24
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notmynamezaneb: for the sake of argument, think of it as configuring N rings (instead of just one) and the rings are defined by the capability or geographic location of the physical hard drive17:24
zanebnotmyname: so basically, you need to get some info from Ironic and use it to configure the Swift nodes running on those particular servers17:25
notmynameso if you can do that with one ring, N rings should be possible17:25
notmynamepossible == we know how and it's just typing to get it done17:25
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zanebso you want to (a) deploy a set of nodes with a given configuration to a set of servers sharing a particular set of characteristics? or (b) deploy to a bunch of servers and modify the configuration for each one based on inferring its characteristics?17:27
notmynamezaneb: make sense? is that scope in heat, tripleo, or ironic?17:27
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notmynamezaneb: more of (a). actually it's (c) deploy a set of nodes with a given configuration where that configuration reflects the properties of the entire cluster17:29
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notmynameie, discover what the hardware can do (and where it is), build a set of configs, and push those configs to every machine17:29
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notmyname(in the simple case--it /could/ be a lot more complicated/powerful than that)17:29
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zanebok, that sounds more like TripleO's scope than Heat's to me17:30
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zanebthough obviously Heat would be involved in the deployment step17:30
notmynameok17:30
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zanebwe don't tend to get into discovering in advance waht hardware can do17:30
notmynameis that #openstack-tripleo? #tripleo? something else/17:31
zanebwe are just in charge of requesting something and telling you what you got ;)17:31
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notmynamegot it17:31
zaneb#tripleo, I believe17:31
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Expose recent docker features in the resource  https://review.openstack.org/10612017:46
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bradbIs it possible to get the current updated template in my custom resource type on an update call? The stack and resource template only have the previous version cached.18:15
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openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Account for status when deleting servers  https://review.openstack.org/10263718:28
bradbEven the dependencies (add_dependencies()) that are passed into the custom resource do not have any of the new resources from the modified template. I was hoping the "after" obj update(before,after) would cache the modified template but it doesnt. The update.py only sends a segment of the parsed template.18:29
bradbIs there another way to get hold of the update stack template? thanks for any help18:30
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zanebbradb: looking...18:33
bradbthanks zaneb18:34
zanebbradb: it appears not18:37
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bradbyea i have tried everything i can think of to get it..18:38
zanebbradb: in Juno the template of the current stack will include any resources already created (i.e. resources your custom resource depends on). But iirc you are on icehouse18:38
bradbjust wanted confirmation - i wasnt insane :-)18:38
zanebbradb: not that we can prove ;)18:39
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bradbright zane - i was looking for a short term solution for icehouse - right i am aware of the juno work - talked with thomas, michael and yourself on the phone last week.18:41
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bradbthanks for you help zane18:42
zanebyeah, even the intrinsic function idea doesn't really work for icehouse unless you manually add dependencies somehow18:42
zanebnp18:42
bradbthat was the next thing i was going to try - was hoping the intrinsic function would have more visibility to the modified template.18:44
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zanebthe function itself will. so you may be able to do something hacky there to get it to do what you want ;)18:47
zanebthe issue is that in Icehouse, the functions which are allowed to contribute dependencies are hard-coded18:48
zanebalthough since you're talking about a custom resource, you can add your own based on the function18:48
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zanebso there's probably no show-stoppers18:49
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bradbthanks zane i will take a look.19:06
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openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor OS::Nova::Server delete handling  https://review.openstack.org/9980019:15
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openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor AWS::EC2::Instance delete handling  https://review.openstack.org/10263819:26
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openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor AWS::EC2::Instance delete handling  https://review.openstack.org/10263819:28
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openstackgerritJeff Peeler proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Add HA templates to deploy OpenShift on CentOS  https://review.openstack.org/10615920:16
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mriedemanyone try doing 'tox -r -e docs' lately?21:31
mriedemor seen this? error: /home/mriedem/git/heat/contrib/marconi-plugin/marconi-plugin: No such file or directory21:31
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mriedemthat seems...weird21:31
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zanebmriedem: it was recently moved I think. I can't see any reference to the old location though...22:00
zaneb"recently" means "February", as it turns out22:01
mriedemyeah saw that too22:02
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zanebI have an empty contrib/marconi-plugin directory hierarchy left behind. it might pay to delete that if you have it too22:03
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mriedemzaneb: yeah me too, removed those and now it works, weird22:05
mriedemgit clean wouldn't remove them22:05
zanebI suspect it's just searching contrib and expecting all those directories to have something in them, according to some convention22:06
zanebI never quite figured out why Git leaves that stuff behind either22:06
mriedemzaneb: yeah, well anyway, thanks for the tip :)22:06
zanebgit clean -d will do it22:07
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mriedem-df22:08
mriedemgit clean --seriously-delete-all-this-shit22:08
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SpamapShm22:50
SpamapSI wonder if we just make OS::Nova::Server's rebuild a suspend + resume we can make it less special when we make it signal-aware.22:50
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openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add "index_var" property to the resource group resource  https://review.openstack.org/8863623:13
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Parse RST in plug-in class docs  https://review.openstack.org/10619823:13
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openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow listing of resources and nested resources  https://review.openstack.org/10620623:50
openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add query param to allow nested resource list  https://review.openstack.org/10620723:50
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/10516623:51
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