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| cmyster | stevebaker: still around ? | 06:01 |
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| skraynev | Good morning | 06:27 |
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| tiantian | <skraynev>:hi | 06:57 |
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| skraynev | tiantian: hi | 06:59 |
| cmyster | ho | 07:00 |
| cmyster | oops hi | 07:00 |
| skraynev | tiantian: how your problem with dependencies? | 07:00 |
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| tiantian | <skraynev>: I didn't find a good way, and the end I just to run stack.sh again:) | 07:01 |
| skraynev | cmyster: ho - sounds really manfully :) | 07:01 |
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| skraynev | tiantian: doh... it's action of last resort. | 07:03 |
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| skraynev | I hope, that it helped you. is it so? | 07:03 |
| tiantian | <skraynev>:yes, it works:) | 07:04 |
| skraynev | tiantian: my congratulations ;) | 07:04 |
| tiantian | <skraynev>: tks | 07:05 |
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| cmyster | skraynev: :) | 07:07 |
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| therve | Good morning! | 07:13 |
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| cmyster | morning | 07:18 |
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| tiantian | <skraynev>: would you please to review my patches, I have add you as the reviewer,tks:) | 07:31 |
| skraynev | tiantian: I will try to do it today ;) | 07:32 |
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| unmeshg | Hi everyone, in the API docs, I came across an API to preview a stack before abandoning it | 08:00 |
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| unmeshg | basically a GET /v1/{tenant_id}/stacks/{stack_name}/{stack_id}/abandon | 08:00 |
| shardy | morning all | 08:00 |
| unmeshg | but I don't see it implemented | 08:01 |
| therve | unmeshg, It's a GET on /preview, not abandon | 08:02 |
| unmeshg | therve: I can see it here http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-orchestration-v1.html | 08:03 |
| shardy | unmeshg: That sounds like a mistake, because the implementation is not yet merged: | 08:03 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84664/ | 08:03 |
| therve | Actually a POST | 08:03 |
| shardy | Whoever proposed that to the docs should've waited until the code landed | 08:04 |
| shardy | there is a preview stack interface, which previews what create would do | 08:04 |
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| unmeshg | also, there seems to be no activity on this review for quite some time now | 08:06 |
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| shardy | unmeshg: Yes, probably we need to revert the docs patch until such time as the feature is merged | 08:10 |
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| unmeshg | I agree | 08:11 |
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| cmyster | morning | 08:12 |
| shardy | unmeshg: sec, I'll do it now | 08:12 |
| unmeshg | shardy: thanks | 08:12 |
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| shardy | unmeshg: https://review.openstack.org/105672 | 08:19 |
| shardy | thanks for pointing out that inconsistency :) | 08:19 |
| cmyster | shardy: FYI the issue with the input_values we talked about yesterday, on jenkind granade job it failed just that (wrong type error) | 08:20 |
| shardy | cmyster: so we've broken an interface | 08:20 |
| shardy | wrt icehouse? | 08:20 |
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| cmyster | check-grenade-dsvm | 08:21 |
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| cmyster | you can see it here http://logs.openstack.org/90/89790/14/check/check-grenade-dsvm/eb5ff58/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz | 08:21 |
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| shardy | cmyster: but your test is still passing a list, not a map right? | 08:23 |
| cmyster | yes | 08:23 |
| shardy | So the issue is your test is passing the wrong data type, no? | 08:23 |
| shardy | as we established the other day that on both trunk and Icehouse, the schema demands a map? | 08:23 |
| cmyster | yes, the failure here is OK | 08:23 |
| cmyster | no on a 4 day old devstack this test passes | 08:24 |
| shardy | I'd note what git sha you're at, pull latest master and re-test | 08:25 |
| unmeshg | shardy: thanks, I just reviewed it | 08:25 |
| shardy | You should get consistent results with the gate, unless there's something dodgy about your environment | 08:25 |
| cmyster | shardy: not as far as I know, my usual way to do things is to unstack.sh > rm -rf /opt/stack > yum update > reboot > git pull > stack.sh | 08:27 |
| cmyster | I'll try to run those now see if there is any change | 08:28 |
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| Sventek | good afternoon. I am trying several times to create an instance using a heat template. this worked before, however the openstack administrator has added a new external network. I am finding that I now receive the error message : Error: Expected 1 external network, found 2. I have tried many different ways to pick the subnet id for the external network in which i want to assign the address from, but to no avail. I have also don | 09:14 |
| Sventek | e extensive google searches. This is the last option, can anyone PLEASE point me in the right direction on this. once I get moving I'm sure it'll be a cake walk. I must be missing something simple, or something is misconfigured at the neutron level. | 09:14 |
| cmyster | shardy: idk, I am on a brand new stack, changed a bunch of settings and it still accepts it on my system... | 09:15 |
| skraynev | shardy: ping | 09:15 |
| therve | Sventek, You just need to specify the network you want to use in the template | 09:16 |
| Sventek | sure. I hjave tried EIPAssociation, no dice | 09:16 |
| Sventek | tried a few different things (I have to use AWS::EC2 commands because it has to work in both AWS and OpenStack | 09:16 |
| Sventek | Clarification: AWS::EC2::EIPAssociation | 09:16 |
| therve | That's not what you have to use | 09:17 |
| cmyster | Sventek: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Nova::Server | 09:17 |
| therve | NetworkInterfaces is | 09:17 |
| Sventek | please point me at the write method and I'll experiment away | 09:17 |
| tiantian | <Sventek>:yes, you have specify the network_id in template | 09:17 |
| cmyster | see how network is defined there | 09:17 |
| Sventek | cool looking now. | 09:18 |
| Sventek | ahh. is there an AWS alternative to this Nova command. also, we are using Neutron, not sure if that matters | 09:18 |
| cmyster | shouldn't | 09:19 |
| Sventek | ok. let me play around a bit. thanks for the direction. logically, all of this makes sense. something just isn't working right. | 09:20 |
| Sventek | anyhow. thx | 09:20 |
| Sventek | hmm. OS::Neutron::ExtraRoute looks like the ticket | 09:21 |
| Sventek | nah. sorry. anyhow, still reading / experimenting | 09:22 |
| therve | No | 09:22 |
| therve | Sventek, Just specify the info in NetworkInterfaces | 09:22 |
| Sventek | so, I need a unicast and anycast address. both are external networks | 09:22 |
| Sventek | perhaps I should have mentioned this | 09:22 |
| Sventek | but yeah, lemme dig into NetworkInterfaces | 09:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: Adds in-instance hook for saltstack https://review.openstack.org/102616 | 09:30 |
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| Dev_Jin | HI.. I am trying to create a heat stack using tenant credentials .. it’s giving me error not authorized to perform the action.. but I did launch the same stack few min back though auto scaling policy failed with auth error.. what’s the exact behavior? I found some old launchpad reference (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/instance-users) on similar lines but I am not sure what’s the conclusion? | 09:34 |
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| Dev_Jin | shardy — may be you can help with this ? | 09:36 |
| cmyster | Dev_Jin: It sounds like a configuration error to me | 09:37 |
| cmyster | it would help to know more | 09:37 |
| Dev_Jin | cmyster - tell me what details you want? | 09:38 |
| Dev_Jin | cmyster - first could you tell me expected behavior? is it allowed for non-admin users to create auto scaling resources? | 09:38 |
| therve | Dev_Jin, What's your version? Do you have domain users configured? | 09:39 |
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| Dev_Jin | therve : I am using ice house.. well.. to be frank domain user term is new to me.. | 09:40 |
| cmyster | Dev_Jin: depends on the type of resource, did you try it with admin? | 09:40 |
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| Dev_Jin | cmyster : I tried creating vm resource it succeeded once.. but auto scaling policy failed.. | 09:41 |
| Dev_Jin | now even heat stack-create is giving error ERROR: You are not authorized to complete this action. | 09:41 |
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| Dev_Jin | cmyster — ok.. I played with some roles that’s why heat stack-create was failing.. now I have reverted that.. so vm’s are getting created.. but scaling policy is still failing | 09:44 |
| Dev_Jin | worker_scale_in_policy | 09:44 |
| Dev_Jin | OS::Heat::ScalingPolicy0 minutesCreate FailedForbidden: You are not authorized to perform the requested action, identity:list_roles. (HTTP 403) | 09:44 |
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| cmyster | hmmm | 09:45 |
| sab | Hi, How do I specify autoscalinggroup nodes in a loadbalancer resource? | 09:46 |
| cmyster | I don't remember what are the constraints here... | 09:46 |
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| Dev_Jin | cmyster: — I just found (by trial and error) that auto scalling resources seems to have some auth issues (that too auto scaling policy only auto scaling group properties are getting applied).. alarm is also getting configured… | 09:51 |
| shardy | Dev_Jin: How did you install OpenStack? | 09:59 |
| cmyster | back | 10:00 |
| shardy | Dev_Jin: It is possible to have autoscaling work as non-admin with Icehouse, but certain things need to be configured (which devstack and recent packstack does for you) | 10:00 |
| cmyster | Dev_Jin: define issue | 10:00 |
| Dev_Jin | shardy : manually by going through the steps on openstack website | 10:00 |
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| shardy | Dev_Jin: can you link the exact page you used please? | 10:01 |
| Dev_Jin | shardy: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/heat-install.html | 10:01 |
| cmyster | Dev_Jin: when you are saying trial end error, can you please expend on how did you test things ? | 10:01 |
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| Dev_Jin | cmyster: I commented out auto scaling policy from my heat template but I kept auto scaling group and ceilometer alarm config as it is.. then it worked.. but I have keep auto scaling policy then it gives auth error on auto scaling policy | 10:03 |
| shardy | Dev_Jin: Thanks, I need to propose an update to that page, as it doesn't cover configuration for stack domain users: | 10:03 |
| shardy | http://hardysteven.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/heat-auth-model-updates-part-2-stack.html | 10:03 |
| cmyster | shardy: when you have the time, I need to violently agree with you again :) | 10:04 |
| Dev_Jin | shardy : thank for that link.. I will try it out.. | 10:04 |
| shardy | Dev_Jin: If you follow the steps at the end of that, to configure the heat domain, domain-admin user, and update heat.conf (and restart heat-engine), then you should be able to create the ScalingPolicy as non-admin | 10:04 |
| cmyster | brb | 10:05 |
| shardy | Or if you just want to get things working for test purposes, you can add admin role to the user on your existing setup | 10:05 |
| Dev_Jin | shardy : I already tried with admin view and I know it works.. but to get the real feel I am now trying with tenant | 10:05 |
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| shardy | Dev_Jin: Ok, if everything works fine as admin, then the domain configuration should make things work as non-admin | 10:06 |
| shardy | I'll propose a docs update soon to clarify the steps in the install guide | 10:07 |
| Dev_Jin | shardy: Ok.. let me give it a try.. | 10:07 |
| skraynev | shardy: about client-plugins patches. You mentioned about "ugly" import style when we do from cinderclient import client as cinderclient, is it pertinent for unittests? | 10:09 |
| shardy | skraynev: IMHO shadowing module names with aliases or variables is always best avoided | 10:11 |
| shardy | but in the plugins patches it was doubly confusing due to the addition of an indirect import of the alias | 10:11 |
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| skraynev | shardy: I tried to comment all places with such behavior, but it makes merging these patches very long. almost every patch for client has such mistake (f.e. neutronclient). | 10:13 |
| skraynev | shardy: may we fix all these points in tests in one separate patch? | 10:14 |
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| shardy | skraynev: Well the point was, the tests were getting changed anyway, only to an indirect import of a shadowed alias | 10:15 |
| shardy | If all the other patches do the same thing, we should just fix them IMO | 10:15 |
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| shardy | The ones at the top of the queue I looked at had been fixed, are you saying stevebaker didn't fix the whole series? | 10:16 |
| shardy | skraynev: To clarify, I don't think we should fix existing import issues in steve's patches, unless the imports are being modified anyway due to the client plugin changes | 10:17 |
| skraynev | shardy: I just found it for neutronclient patch. Possibly other patches have same problem. | 10:17 |
| skraynev | shardy: yes, I agree about this, my idea was to add different patch in the end of this sequence | 10:18 |
| skraynev | shardy: and do not do it in each patch. | 10:19 |
| shardy | skraynev: Yeah you're right, if it's just that tests are doing "from neutronclient.v2_0 import client as neutronclient" lets not block on that | 10:19 |
| shardy | given that it will cause a lot of unrelated churn in the tests themselves | 10:20 |
| shardy | skraynev: The main issue I wanted resolved has been fixed in the neutronclient patch | 10:20 |
| shardy | (e.g in clients/os/neutron.py) | 10:20 |
| skraynev | shardy: fuh.. ok. | 10:20 |
| skraynev | shardy: thx. I will send request to stevebaker about fixing all such imports in tests in one patch, which will be added at the end :) | 10:23 |
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| sab | Hi all , is there an attribute of autoscalinggroup which gives a list of instances? | 10:46 |
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| Sventek | hi. ok, getting extremely close, I can feel it. however, how heat is not recognizing the type: "Type" : "AWS::EC2::NetworkInterfaceAttachment" | 11:03 |
| Sventek | is this AWS only? because that would really bum me out | 11:04 |
| cmyster | Sventek: in that link I sent you, is that type there ? | 11:04 |
| Sventek | good call. checking again. lots of tabs going here. | 11:04 |
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| Sventek | no, however neither is any of the AWS types that I'm using to identify the network. The requirement is that this has to be in 1:1 for AWS and OpenStack. so I'm essentially using all AWS classes/methods. working up until this | 11:06 |
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| Sventek | anyhow. based on the error, I'm going to say it's not supported | 11:07 |
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| Sventek | ERROR: Unknown resource Type : AWS::EC2::NetworkInterfaceAttachment | 11:07 |
| Sventek | so, I'll think of something | 11:07 |
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| shardy | Sventek: Hi, I don't think we do have that resource, we do have NetworkInterface though, which can be passed to the Instance resource NetworkInterfaces list? | 11:51 |
| Sventek | yeah. I am trying out the NetworkInterfaces (property of AWS::EC2::INSTANCE), however this doesn't error out but no assignment of the public subnet | 11:51 |
| Sventek | so, it just gives me the 1 private address | 11:52 |
| shardy | Sventek: The definitive reference for what is supported is the template guide: | 11:52 |
| shardy | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/index.html | 11:52 |
| shardy | Although that is generated from trunk, so you may also want to use heat resource-type-list on older version os Heat, as there will only be a subset available (we're adding new resources all the time..) | 11:52 |
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| Sventek | ahh. ok. this is good stuff. the NetworkInterfaceAttachment is kind of what it's looking like I need | 11:53 |
| Sventek | but lemme check the resource-list | 11:53 |
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| skraynev | anybody knows: will be the meeting today? | 12:01 |
| zaneb | morning all | 12:01 |
| zaneb | skraynev: yes :) | 12:01 |
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| skraynev | answer is coming :) | 12:02 |
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| cmyster | back | 12:39 |
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| Qiming | shardy? I have some thoughts on the metadata of nova servers. | 12:51 |
| shardy | Qiming: hi | 12:51 |
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| Qiming | shardy: if you check the _populate_deployments_metadata() method | 12:52 |
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| Qiming | the credentials used for deployments are sufficient for ceilometer to build a context to send back signals, right? | 12:53 |
| shardy | Qiming: Yes | 12:54 |
| Qiming | the user_id, password, auth_url things can also be used inside an instance to send out statistics directly to ceilometer, then we don't need cloudwatch for cfn_push_stats | 12:54 |
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| shardy | Qiming: No, that won't work, those credentials will only allow connection to Heat, not any other service | 12:54 |
| shardy | that's by design, when using the stack domain users model | 12:54 |
| Qiming | yes, but is that something we can discuss with ceilometer? | 12:55 |
| shardy | because the user associated with the credentials is in a completely different stack and domain to the stack itself | 12:55 |
| Qiming | the user is inside a separate domain ... | 12:56 |
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| shardy | Qiming: Possibly, we'd need some way to tell ceilometer to accept data from this user/project/domain | 12:56 |
| shardy | as they don't have access to the heat DB to correlate the request to the stack, like we do | 12:57 |
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| Qiming | so a domain_id is needed in this JSON? | 12:57 |
| Qiming | anyway, ceilometer needs to open a channel for an instance user to talk to it | 12:58 |
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| shardy | Yes, heat would need to provide some additional data when creating the alarm, and ceilometer would require some additional logic to map the incoming request from the instance correctly to the alarm owned by the stack | 12:59 |
| shardy | I have no idea how complex that would be on the ceilometer side | 12:59 |
| shardy | therve may have some ideas | 12:59 |
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| Qiming | if this part of metadata is not limited to software_deployment, then ceilometer can query it at any time? | 13:01 |
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| shardy | Qiming: Not really, it could query it at alarm creation time, using the user context, but it can't query it after that, because it no longer has the user credentials/token (unless we get the trust integration in) | 13:02 |
| shardy | Qiming: but even if it had credentials, it would need to somehow know what resource and stack to query in the heat API | 13:03 |
| shardy | currently we pass none of that information to ceilometer | 13:03 |
| Qiming | right. chicken and egg problem | 13:03 |
| shardy | Qiming: tbh, I don't think ceilometer introspecting instance resources for credentials is really a good way to solve the problem | 13:03 |
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| Qiming | understood | 13:05 |
| Qiming | one related topic is to have 'stack_id' always planted in metadata, so that when filtering metrics for autoscaling, a user doesn't have to remember to put such an identity in the metadata explicitly. | 13:07 |
| Qiming | they can just treated as granted, a instance created from a Heat stack always have a stack_id | 13:08 |
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| therve | shardy, TBH I don't know how domain users work for heat | 13:14 |
| therve | Is it managed by the middleware? | 13:14 |
| Qiming | therve, shardy has a blog on it | 13:14 |
| shardy | therve: we map the request internally, as the stack record in the DB keeps track of the stack domain project we created | 13:15 |
| therve | Qiming, I meant at the implementation level | 13:17 |
| Qiming | therve, got it. :) | 13:17 |
| shardy | therve: sec, I'm just finding the relevant patch | 13:18 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71300/15/heat/engine/service.py | 13:19 |
| therve | Ah we need to manage the switch in stack_get | 13:19 |
| shardy | therve: haha, you were the one who approved it ;) | 13:19 |
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| shardy | Basically, we'd need to pass the stack_user_project_id to ceilometer, and have it not reject metrics coming from that project | 13:20 |
| shardy | where I assume, by default it would | 13:20 |
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| Qiming | that would be the only project_id ceilometer would ever know? | 13:23 |
| shardy | Qiming: No, because the context of the request creating the alarm would contain the project the stack is created in | 13:23 |
| Qiming | right. | 13:24 |
| shardy | You'd needs some sort of metric_allowed_projects argument to allow cross-project/domain metric collection | 13:24 |
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| * shardy would have to make popcorn before observing that discussion with ceilometer folks ;) | 13:25 | |
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| Qiming | Make Heat use the stack_user_project_id as the context to request alarm creation? Then Ceilometer doesn't have to cope with two project_ids. The request may come from Heat or an instance... | 13:28 |
| shardy | Qiming: then the stack owner has no visibility or control over the alarms, and probably none of the hypervisor level metrics work as they can't see the instances in a different project | 13:29 |
| shardy | If we move to swift for waitconditions, maybe the answer is have a tempurl which the instance posts data to, and have ceilometer read it | 13:30 |
| therve | What? :) | 13:33 |
| therve | Qiming, maybe write a spec and a patch to ceilometer | 13:35 |
| Qiming | but shardy has a valid concern regarding matching project_id's in ceilometer | 13:36 |
| andrearosa | some projects, like nova, as a requirement for using mock library instead of mox library for new tests, does heat follow the same rule? | 13:36 |
| Qiming | 'ceilometer, please collect some data for my boss?' | 13:36 |
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| cmyster | heheh | 13:37 |
| shardy | andrearosa: basically, yes, mock preferred for new stuff, mox OK for existing stuff | 13:37 |
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| andrearosa | shardy: thanks, I am looking at one of your change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105470/3/heat/tests/test_metadata_refresh.py and you use mox, I guess because mox is used in the same test but that will introduce more stuff to be, eventually, moved to mock | 13:39 |
| andrearosa | I see that it's not a brand new test, but a test added to an existing test. | 13:41 |
| andrearosa | so my qyestion if we should consider that under the label new or not? | 13:42 |
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| pas-ha | andrearosa, if it is a new test in old test case then you are OK to continue to use mox (and it wouldn't be a reason for -1), but if you can write it with mock it would be an advantage | 14:04 |
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| andrearosa | pas-ha: thanks for the response | 14:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Implement AWS "Updates are not supported" https://review.openstack.org/105742 | 14:11 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: Convert input values to str https://review.openstack.org/102343 | 14:12 |
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| shardy | andrearosa: Yeah, I just copied what was there, because I wanted to avoid mixing mox/mock in the same test file | 14:15 |
| shardy | we do that in a couple of places and IMO it turns into a mess pretty quickly | 14:15 |
| andrearosa | shardy: I see, thanks | 14:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Implement AWS "Updates are not supported" https://review.openstack.org/105742 | 14:22 |
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| sjmc7 | hi shardy | 15:32 |
| shardy | sjmc7: Hi! | 15:32 |
| sjmc7 | i'm asking because you were involved in some discussions earlier this year, but.. what's the state of play on trust delegation? | 15:33 |
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| shardy | sjmc7: Heat support for trusts was added in Havana, and we're working towards making it the default (it already is for devstack) | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | ok. did chaining advance any more? | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | i'm thinking specifically for projects consuming heat | 15:34 |
| shardy | sjmc7: Yeah, thats the most major remaining piece, I've written a spec but no code yet: | 15:35 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99908/ | 15:35 |
| shardy | sjmc7: I did post some patches recently which should mean that heat works with trust-scoped tokens for all operations except create | 15:36 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, i think the solum use case is similar to what i'm thinking about | 15:37 |
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| shardy | sjmc7: specifically https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97569/ | 15:37 |
| sjmc7 | i imagine there are a lot of cases for things using heat, potentially with long-running operations, where this would be an issue | 15:38 |
| shardy | With that, Solum should be able to create a (possibly empty) stack using the initial user context, then later do anything needed via a trust | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | so create once, then run updates from then on? | 15:38 |
| shardy | The chaining part when implemented will remove the need to create the initial empty stack | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | if possible to explain briefly, why is create special? | 15:39 |
| shardy | sjmc7: yeah, we may also need to tweak the trusts usage in nested stacks, so nested stacks can use the parent trust ID (otherwise updates which create nested stacks will fail with tokens obtained via a trust) | 15:39 |
| shardy | sjmc7: create is special because that's when we create the trusst | 15:39 |
| shardy | and you can't create a trust with a trust-scoped token atm | 15:39 |
| shardy | that's what chaining will explicitly allowe | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | ah, ok. so in the solum case, they'd use e.g. a token from horizon for that first step | 15:40 |
| shardy | but atm it's denied by keystone universally | 15:40 |
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| sjmc7 | which lets heat create a trust | 15:40 |
| shardy | sjmc7: Yeah, exactly, that's the workaround for now | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | ok. that's probably a reasonable workaround for us too | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | and solum could create its own trust if necessary as well? | 15:41 |
| shardy | sjmc7: Yes, provide it does it with the user's token during the initial request | 15:41 |
| shardy | provided even | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | ok, got it. thanks for your patience :) | 15:42 |
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| shardy | sjmc7: np, thanks for the reminder, I still need to revisit the nested-stack part I just mentioned ;) | 15:43 |
| * shardy adds it to his todo list | 15:43 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Action-aware software config specification https://review.openstack.org/98742 | 16:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Action-aware software config specification https://review.openstack.org/98742 | 16:25 |
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| maishsk | shardy, you up and about? | 16:26 |
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| shardy | maishsk: hi | 16:33 |
| maishsk | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101144/ | 16:33 |
| maishsk | What ever happened with this change? | 16:34 |
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| maishsk | Does it still need to be reviewed for approval? | 16:34 |
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| shardy | maishsk: yes, most peoples queries are probably filtering it because it has a -1 from stevebaker | 16:37 |
| maishsk | so ... ? | 16:37 |
| maishsk | What's next? | 16:37 |
| shardy | and FWIW I'm still not a fan of the awk, so I left it for others to look at | 16:37 |
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| maishsk | How would you suggest that I continue? | 16:39 |
| shardy | maishsk: well if someone -1's my patch, I reply and they don't remove the downvote, I normally talk to them on IRC | 16:43 |
| shardy | so arguably you're speaking to the wrong Steve ;) | 16:43 |
| maishsk | LOL! | 16:43 |
| maishsk | will do | 16:43 |
| shardy | I believe stevebaker is out for a few days, so maybe just add heat-core to the reviewers, then you may be able to get two alternate +2s | 16:43 |
| maishsk | OK | 16:43 |
| maishsk | you menationed something about filters | 16:44 |
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| maishsk | how doe sthat work? | 16:44 |
| shardy | I'll try to take a look later, I've held off my +2 because I'd prefer a clearer way than the big blob of awk | 16:44 |
| shakamunyi | bandarji hi there, how are things? | 16:44 |
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| shardy | maybe I can suggest an alternative, I didn't want to -1 without suggesting some other way | 16:44 |
| maishsk | good enough | 16:44 |
| shardy | maishsk: You can query via the gerrrit UI to filter reviews which have already had -1 reviews | 16:45 |
| shardy | or whatever other criteria you have | 16:45 |
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| shardy | many core reviewers do that to attempt to reduce the number of patches they need to look at | 16:45 |
| shardy | Or at least prioritize the ones that get looked at first :) | 16:46 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/user-search.html | 16:46 |
| maishsk | Thanks | 16:47 |
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| zaneb | shardy: btw nothing we're talking about w.r.t. the wait condition thing should delay your patch from landing IMO | 17:15 |
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| shardy | zaneb: Ok, cool, then we refactor the SignalResponder part and plug in the swift transport there? | 17:17 |
| shardy | I still need to chat to jasond about it, but I think looking at his patch that should be pretty simple | 17:17 |
| zaneb | yeah, I think that sounds like a plan | 17:18 |
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| zaneb | I don't want to delay anyone's work | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Display stack owner information with the stacks https://review.openstack.org/101968 | 17:21 |
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| ckmvishnu | parser.Stack.load currently uses stack.id (uuid). But after migrating stack.id to Integer and introducing stack.uuid, Should parser.Stack.load work on stack.uuid instead of stack.id? | 17:30 |
| kirankv | ckmvishnu: I think it should use the uuid | 17:33 |
| zaneb | ckmvishnu: short answer: no | 17:33 |
| zaneb | ckmvishnu: long answer: maybe | 17:33 |
| ckmvishnu | But load Event would endup making 2 calls to load a stack. First is to get stack from DB using stack_id and use the uuid to load stack. | 17:34 |
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| ckmvishnu | I am using uuid, just wanted to confirm :) | 17:35 |
| ckmvishnu | kirankv zeneb thanks. | 17:35 |
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| zaneb | ckmvishnu: just about everywhere we use Stack.load() we are looking up the db object beforehand and passing it in as the "stack" argument | 17:37 |
| zaneb | so there's no second call | 17:37 |
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| ckmvishnu | zeneb, so shall i proceed with uuid? | 17:37 |
| ckmvishnu | sorry zaneb | 17:38 |
| zaneb | but the stack_get() call should be cheap anyway, because it uses query.get() | 17:38 |
| zaneb | so assuming the object is already cached in the session, there's no round-trip to the db | 17:38 |
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| ckmvishnu | zaneb, ok. | 17:39 |
| zaneb | ckmvishnu: you should do whatever everything else does, otherwise it probably won't work ;) | 17:39 |
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| * zaneb has no idea what that is any more | 17:39 | |
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| zaneb | oh, I understand the question now... | 17:41 |
| ckmvishnu | zaneb: :) | 17:41 |
| zaneb | ckmvishnu: so, in practice we never pass the stack_id any more and always pass a stack object we got from the db | 17:42 |
| ckmvishnu | list_events already has stack.uuid. I missed. ill use them without a db lookup | 17:42 |
| zaneb | so the question is moot ;) | 17:42 |
| zaneb | Ideally we would never pass a db object | 17:42 |
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| zaneb | and we would have methods like load_by_uuid, load_by_name | 17:43 |
| zaneb | the load_all method was sort of a first attempt at this | 17:43 |
| ckmvishnu | ok | 17:45 |
| zaneb | but for now load has to take db_stack.id to avoid changing any other code | 17:45 |
| zaneb | and if that is the primary DB key then that makes sense to me | 17:45 |
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| ckmvishnu | heared that integer id is not to be exposed. | 17:46 |
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| zaneb | not to the user | 17:46 |
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| zaneb | it's not really more exposed than any other implementation details, the problem is that the DB code is leaking into service.py | 17:48 |
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| zaneb | that's why we need load_by_name(), load_by_uuid() | 17:48 |
| zaneb | &c. | 17:48 |
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| SpamapS | shardy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105219/ can be un-WIP'd now | 17:51 |
| SpamapS | unWIP it | 17:51 |
| SpamapS | unWIP it good | 17:51 |
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| asalkeld | hey SpamapS I don't think I can make the heat mid cycle session - looks interesting | 18:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | William C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implements stack lifecycle scheduler hints https://review.openstack.org/96889 | 19:13 |
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| SpamapS | asalkeld: bummer. I'm hoping it is a hard core hack-till-we-drop success. ;) | 19:31 |
| asalkeld | love to be there, sounds fun | 19:31 |
| asalkeld | crappy flight from au tho' | 19:31 |
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| asalkeld | SpamapS, I'd like to grab some of that work - not sure what people have shown enthusiasm for yet | 19:33 |
| asalkeld | once it's segmented a bit | 19:33 |
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| SpamapS | asalkeld: I think we're just now at the point where we can start. | 19:34 |
| asalkeld | it's probably not actually that hard | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | asalkeld: I'd love to have you wrangle the continuous observer bits since it is basically an expansion of autoscaling. :) | 19:34 |
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| asalkeld | k | 19:35 |
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| SpamapS | asalkeld: I'm not yet convinced that ceilometer + webhooks is right.. we may need to build something and then see if ceilometer wants it. :p | 19:37 |
| asalkeld | SpamapS, I was just highlighting the functionality that is there | 19:37 |
| asalkeld | I'd go for what ever is initially fastest | 19:38 |
| asalkeld | (quickest to write) | 19:38 |
| asalkeld | then when everything is put together we can see where the bottle necks are | 19:39 |
| asalkeld | fight the early optimization | 19:39 |
| SpamapS | asalkeld: I think a general purpose notification filtering mechanism will be useful for Heat, Horizon, and users... if we can have one thing that filters notifications and either sends RPC's to Heat, or shoves messages into Marconi.. thats a win for the project. | 19:41 |
| SpamapS | asalkeld: as long as such a thing remains focused and simple ... good luck with that, as they say. ;) | 19:41 |
| asalkeld | sounds like ceilometer :-O | 19:42 |
| asalkeld | pretty much exactly what it does | 19:42 |
| asalkeld | except the rpc/marconi "alarm" | 19:42 |
| asalkeld | maybe just add transports to ceilometer | 19:43 |
| asalkeld | (alarm to rpc/marconi) | 19:43 |
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| asalkeld | actually marconi might be nice as the user could see the events too | 19:45 |
| SpamapS | asalkeld: interesting.. I did not think ceilometer already filtered and forwarded. They pointed me at a blueprint that is still in the definition phase. | 19:46 |
| asalkeld | we could also send our "events" to the same stack-marconi-queue | 19:46 |
| asalkeld | SpamapS, ceilometer has a "pipeline" | 19:46 |
| asalkeld | that grabs notifications | 19:46 |
| asalkeld | and makes "meters" | 19:46 |
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| asalkeld | (derived) | 19:46 |
| asalkeld | it's similar | 19:47 |
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| asalkeld | randallburt1, how are we disabling resources now? | 21:22 |
| asalkeld | randallburt1, is not using environment easy? | 21:22 |
| asalkeld | :-( I thought is was easy | 21:23 |
| asalkeld | s/is/it | 21:23 |
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| randallburt1 | asalkeld: I'm not sure I know how to use the environment to disable resources. | 21:24 |
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| asalkeld | randallburt, see my response to your email | 21:24 |
| asalkeld | OS::*: | 21:24 |
| asalkeld | that will kill all OS resources | 21:24 |
| asalkeld | or you can name them one by one | 21:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Remove unused 'VERSIONS' definition https://review.openstack.org/105674 | 21:36 |
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| randallburt | asalkeld: cool. I didn't realize. I'll give that a shot next release since the way we do it today isn't optimal. | 21:39 |
| randallburt | asalkeld: sorry for the late reply, btw. was in a meeting. | 21:39 |
| asalkeld | k | 21:39 |
| asalkeld | np | 21:39 |
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