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| openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Python3: fix bytes/str issues https://review.openstack.org/73470 | 00:44 |
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| sdake | zaneb thanks for the mock help, my understanding has increased significantly :) | 00:56 |
| zaneb | :) | 00:56 |
| sdake | down to 67 unit test failures which are all unique :) | 00:56 |
| zaneb | rofl | 00:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use olso.messaging https://review.openstack.org/72798 | 00:57 |
| sdake | calling it a day | 00:57 |
| zaneb | welcome to my last week | 00:57 |
| sdake | I've been jerking around with unit tests for atleast 5 days | 00:57 |
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| sdake | after I finish the rpc api, I fear I will have to rework the rpc server part of things | 00:58 |
| * sdake groans | 00:58 | |
| * zaneb has fingers crossed for patch set 5 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73822/ | 00:58 | |
| sdake | zaneb https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71459/ could use some love before it expires ;) | 00:59 |
| zaneb | why not | 01:00 |
| zaneb | approved | 01:00 |
| sdake | tx | 01:01 |
| sdake | I saw a cat talk about CI | 01:01 |
| sdake | he said if you aren't committing to the repo once a day your doing it wrong | 01:02 |
| sdake | clearly he has never seen a project with 80 developers ;) | 01:02 |
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| ramishra | stevebaker: Hi Morning | 01:58 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: hi | 01:58 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: I have changed the patch.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72454/, had to override both handle_create/handle_update. | 02:00 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: my logic of looping through the keys, is to make sure if the key is present and then update it.. as some keys like segmentation_id may not be present | 02:02 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: do you have few mins to check if it looks ok now? | 02:02 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: looking now | 02:03 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: also wondering why the jenkins check job is not verifying it.. I am new to the gate process.. | 02:04 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: I think it is clogged up due to everyone getting their changes in before the proposal freeze | 02:05 |
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| ramishra | ramishra: ahh.. Also can the 3 LBaaS bugs/changes assigned to me? I have started working on the changes.. Can you check if they can be approved too. | 02:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Adding stack-adopt support to python-heatclient https://review.openstack.org/70380 | 02:31 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add StackResource specific preview behavior https://review.openstack.org/68407 | 02:31 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add preview for NestedStack https://review.openstack.org/68408 | 02:31 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add preview for ResourceGroup https://review.openstack.org/68409 | 02:32 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add preview for InstanceGroup https://review.openstack.org/68410 | 02:32 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add preview for TemplateResource https://review.openstack.org/68411 | 02:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add ability to create provider networks (vlan,flat). https://review.openstack.org/72454 | 02:49 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: as suggested added a static method.. please have a look and review it once more:). thanks | 02:51 |
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| stevebaker | ramishra: I actually meant a method which prepends provider: to the key of a single property | 02:53 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: yeah, thats what I have done, static method to prepend provider: | 02:54 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: to be called 3 times, one for each property | 02:54 |
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| ramishra | stevabker: static method for string update, to prepend provider: to a key? | 03:00 |
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| ramishra | stevebaker: sorry, I think I got you now.. updated the patch... please review | 03:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add ability to create provider networks (vlan,flat). https://review.openstack.org/72454 | 03:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: get_file_contents: use six.itervalues() instead of dict.itervalues() https://review.openstack.org/72812 | 03:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Improve help strings https://review.openstack.org/72439 | 03:30 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Revert "Merge "Re-enable lazy translation"" https://review.openstack.org/74454 | 03:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: REST deployment metadata method https://review.openstack.org/74203 | 04:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: SignalResponder move signed URL deleting to its own method https://review.openstack.org/74205 | 04:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Nova server to ref cloud-config resources in user_data https://review.openstack.org/69238 | 04:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move HOT to a separate subpackage https://review.openstack.org/74584 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Provide access to the template version https://review.openstack.org/74585 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Disallow Heat-only functions in CloudFormation templates https://review.openstack.org/74586 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move built-in functions to separate modules https://review.openstack.org/74587 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove Fn::FindInMap from HOT https://review.openstack.org/74588 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Give cfn a separate Template class https://review.openstack.org/74589 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add a plugin_manager module https://review.openstack.org/74590 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use PluginManager to load resources https://review.openstack.org/74591 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Load functions from plugins https://review.openstack.org/74592 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Replace function resolution with lazy evaluation https://review.openstack.org/73822 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: unit tests: Fix types in Fn::ResourceFacade tests https://review.openstack.org/73820 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: unit tests: Refactor to accomodate lazy evaluation https://review.openstack.org/73821 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: unit tests: Always resolve static functions https://review.openstack.org/73818 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix test_association_eip unit test https://review.openstack.org/73819 | 05:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Evaluate lazy functions in autoscaling launch config https://review.openstack.org/73817 | 05:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: raw_template hot parameter type data migration https://review.openstack.org/70050 | 05:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Do not use the '+' operation dict_items() https://review.openstack.org/72988 | 06:30 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Only call decode() on bytes https://review.openstack.org/74123 | 06:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add an iteritems for RequestContext https://review.openstack.org/74606 | 06:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use olso.messaging https://review.openstack.org/72798 | 06:32 |
| sdake | definately bedtime | 06:33 |
| sdake | night | 06:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Li proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Using common methods from oslo cliutils https://review.openstack.org/67120 | 07:40 |
| skraynev_afk | morning | 07:41 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Ensure property 'name' can be updated https://review.openstack.org/74624 | 07:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Validation for Outputs template section https://review.openstack.org/70358 | 07:58 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add validation to KeyPair resource https://review.openstack.org/72443 | 07:59 |
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| pshchelo | morning :) | 08:48 |
| cmyster | morning | 08:56 |
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| jprovazn | Hi, is there a way how to pass hostname on one instance to other instance in stack? IOW I have a stack with instance1 and instance2 and I'd like to know hostname of instance2 in instance1. I tried to pass something like this to instance1: "instance2: {Fn:GetAtt: [instance2, PrivateDnsName]}". But this didn't work | 09:47 |
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| pshchelo | jprovazn: you could try using dependson attribute, that way the second instance will be created only after the first is finished creating, so the attribute will be available already | 09:59 |
| pshchelo | well, not attribute, but "construct" | 10:00 |
| therve | You have an implicit dependency when linking a reference | 10:00 |
| therve | jprovazn, What doesn't workN | 10:00 |
| therve | ? | 10:01 |
| jprovazn | I was hitting "resource not avaialable" (or similar - can retry) | 10:01 |
| jprovazn | therve: it will take a while, will ping you | 10:03 |
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| ramishra | skraynev: Hi | 10:31 |
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| ramishra | skraynev: regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72454/, stevebaker suggested to change the properties in the handle_create and handle_update for readbility. | 10:34 |
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| skraynev | hello, ramishra | 11:06 |
| skraynev | I agree with him | 11:06 |
| skraynev | I suggest move part of code in other function | 11:06 |
| skraynev | other is ok | 11:06 |
| ramishra | skraynev: Yes, that what is he suggested.. not to move them outside these functions | 11:07 |
| skraynev | ramishra, sorry, that so late, I have a dinner | 11:07 |
| ramishra | skyanev: you see the other patch...earlier one.. he suggested not to move them outside... | 11:08 |
| skraynev | ramishra: Hm. let me look.. | 11:08 |
| ramishra | check patch#17... I had earlier done that... He said not to.. so I changed it immediately | 11:09 |
| ramishra | skraynev: then he reviewed it | 11:09 |
| ramishra | skraynev: it's been hell of a job to make this small change... back and forth with minor changes.. | 11:12 |
| skraynev | ramishra: I understand. don't worry | 11:14 |
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| skraynev | you are right in IRC log he told about it... | 11:14 |
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| ramishra | yes | 11:15 |
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| skraynev | So I will discuss it with him | 11:15 |
| skraynev | but as you can see my idea a little different | 11:15 |
| skraynev | I don't offer remove current static method | 11:16 |
| skraynev | it's ok | 11:16 |
| skraynev | but will be good add one more where will be called your method with with prefix | 11:17 |
| skraynev | Anyway Could you fix other comments and don't change it. | 11:18 |
| ramishra | done and uploaded | 11:18 |
| ramishra | already.. patch 19 | 11:18 |
| ramishra | skraynev: r u talking about some other comments.. | 11:19 |
| skraynev | great!) | 11:19 |
| skraynev | no.. | 11:19 |
| skraynev | I have not seen it yet | 11:19 |
| skraynev | but now I start | 11:19 |
| skraynev | only one question: why did you do PROVIDER_EXT - global ? | 11:20 |
| skraynev | I thought that using it direct as ['provider' + key] - was normal | 11:20 |
| ramishra | for easy change in the future... if they change the extension....as done in many other files.. | 11:21 |
| skraynev | Could you give other example with such extension? | 11:22 |
| skraynev | s/such extension/ such approach for neutron extension | 11:23 |
| ramishra | it's just a const... heat.openstack.common.generator.py | 11:23 |
| ramishra | I think its better to keep them at the top for changes in the future.. do not have to search for them... If the extension changes... | 11:24 |
| ramishra | heat.openstack.common.config.generator.py | 11:24 |
| skraynev | ramishra: IMO, it make sense if you have some bp or other changes which will be use it . | 11:25 |
| ramishra | It's there in many neutron files | 11:26 |
| skraynev | the reason : it will be used in future ... hm.. I guess, it's good for core team. | 11:26 |
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| skraynev | ok, I will not add -1, but leave comments with question. | 11:28 |
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| skraynev | and we will know what think about it other reviewers. I suppose it's better solution ;) | 11:29 |
| ramishra | This may be required elsewhere... as this is part of the extension.. not sure if we see more type of provider extension in the future.. | 11:30 |
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| ramishra | also check neutron.plugins.ml2.plugin.py | 11:31 |
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| ramishra | anyway.. let me change it and upload... don't want another round of back and forth:) | 11:33 |
| skraynev | ))) | 11:33 |
| skraynev | wow | 11:33 |
| skraynev | wait | 11:33 |
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| skraynev | let's ask other guys | 11:34 |
| skraynev | shardy: are you here? | 11:34 |
| jprovazn | therve: here is the template I use: https://gist.github.com/jprovaznik/9090247#file-gistfile1-txt-L733 and here is subset of errors from log: http://paste.openstack.org/show/67238/ (list of errors is not complete). If I try to replace PrivateDnsName with instance_name everywhere in the template, it starts as expected. So I guess I'm using PrivateDnsName in a wrong way. | 11:35 |
| skraynev | ramishra: I guess will be easier to ask stevebaker and shardy about it and then upload a final (I hope) version ;) | 11:35 |
| ramishra | skraynev: uploaded...if its required it would be changed later;) | 11:37 |
| skraynev | ramishra: Oh. ok!) | 11:37 |
| ramishra | skraynev: do you mind if I own the LBaaS resource fixes for VIP,Pool etc | 11:41 |
| skraynev | ramishra: I have added comment about my idea. Other LGTM! thank you. | 11:41 |
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| skraynev | ramishra: are you about https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1258490 ? | 11:42 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1258490 in heat "Moving vip in separate resource or making it more clear." [Medium,New] | 11:42 |
| ramishra | skraynev: I have three bugs for that file.. | 11:42 |
| skraynev | Ou. Could you share links, please | 11:43 |
| ramishra | skraynev: stevebaker suggested to create different bugs | 11:43 |
| ramishra | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1280161 | 11:44 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1280161 in heat "Neutron LBaaS-Modify Pool Resource" [Undecided,New] | 11:44 |
| ramishra | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1280167 | 11:45 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1280167 in heat "Neutron LBaaS - VIP Resource Modify create/delete/update methods" [Undecided,New] | 11:45 |
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| ramishra | skraynev: stevebaker suggested to create multiple bugs.. I had created a blueprint to rewrite this file and its resources, but he suggested not to do it and create multiple bugs | 11:46 |
| skraynev | I guess it related with backward compatibility | 11:48 |
| ramishra | skyanev: the reason there is a chnage freeze for icehouse in a few days and we could not make it with the change.. | 11:48 |
| ramishra | skryanev: bugs would be better to manage | 11:48 |
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| skraynev | The main reason why a don't do any changes in this way was - a discussion with therve. | 11:50 |
| ramishra | skraynev: I have rewritten the resources to some extent... I want to VIP one also assigned to me so that I can make all the changes together... | 11:50 |
| therve | jprovazn, I think you have circular dependencies | 11:52 |
| therve | jprovazn, Like notcomputeSlave0Config references itself in the metadata | 11:53 |
| jprovazn | therve: aah, thanks, will try w/o selfref | 11:53 |
| ramishra | therve: Hi | 11:55 |
| therve | ramishra, FWIW, I have no idea what 1280167means | 11:55 |
| therve | Hello :) | 11:55 |
| skraynev | therve: As i remember we discussed it | 11:56 |
| skraynev | And the result was: do touch it while | 11:56 |
| skraynev | because currently neutron don't change architecture | 11:57 |
| ramishra | therve: 1280167means: there was no VIP resource or LB resource in neutron API | 11:57 |
| ramishra | therve: I mean earlier LBaaS implementation | 11:57 |
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| skraynev | but neutron team have some plans for modifying relationship between VIP and LB | 11:58 |
| ramishra | therve: Its already done | 11:58 |
| therve | ramishra, And there still is no such thing AFAICT | 11:58 |
| ramishra | therve: in the V2 API | 11:58 |
| ramishra | therve: http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/lbaas_ext_concepts.html | 11:59 |
| therve | ramishra, That's havana code | 11:59 |
| therve | Things like https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-multiple-vips-per-pool haven't landed AFAICS | 11:59 |
| skraynev | therve: yeap | 12:00 |
| skraynev | and I still wait these changes for implement it | 12:00 |
| ramishra | therve: sure.. but our current resources are not inline with Havana code... | 12:00 |
| therve | ramishra, And? Which feature isn't accessible to the user? | 12:01 |
| skraynev | therve: As i remember it was dispute : what is major vip or loadbalancer | 12:02 |
| therve | skraynev, Sorry please rephrase | 12:02 |
| skraynev | therve: I mean, that I offer same changes in the past | 12:03 |
| skraynev | therve: And we discussed it with shardy | 12:03 |
| therve | Right :) | 12:03 |
| therve | We recorded the discussion on https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1258490 | 12:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1258490 in heat "Moving vip in separate resource or making it more clear." [Medium,New] | 12:04 |
| therve | So that we don't need to have it again :) | 12:04 |
| skraynev | therve: he. You are right, I forgot about your comment for this bug. | 12:05 |
| ramishra | therve: can we cerate multiple VIPs, In the design, one LB can have multiple VIPs..correct me If I am wrong here | 12:05 |
| therve | ramishra, You're wrong | 12:05 |
| skraynev | But I remembered , that changes in neutron should be merged first | 12:05 |
| ramishra | therve: the rest url for VIP creation: /lb/vips | 12:06 |
| therve | ramishra, We're waiting for that feature to be merged before doing the work | 12:06 |
| therve | ramishra, See https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-multiple-vips-per-pool | 12:06 |
| skraynev | ramishra: I discussed it with neutron team. and they didn't finish it still. So I wait their sign for implement it in heat and during this process moving vip in separate resource. | 12:07 |
| skraynev | and I will do it ;) | 12:07 |
| skraynev | therve: how about creating bp, for it in heat. I think it will useful, because bug isn't enough for describing implementation plan? | 12:09 |
| skraynev | therve: I should target it on juno, i suppose. | 12:10 |
| ramishra | therve: I think that's a single server pool mapping to multiple vips.. But in the current implementation has issues like. Current OS::Neutron::Pool has a VIP property a MAP that contains VIP Schema. However, in the new neutron Pool resource, the only reference to VIP is 'vip_id' | 12:10 |
| therve | skraynev, Sure why not | 12:10 |
| skraynev | ok, | 12:10 |
| therve | ramishra, Heat model doesn't have to map exactly to Neutron model | 12:10 |
| * skraynev do it... | 12:10 | |
| therve | Many times it doesn't because neutron models are... not user-friendly to say the least | 12:10 |
| ramishra | therve: ok..I had the impression that we can make it inline with neutron anyway, leave it to the groups better judgement | 12:14 |
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| skraynev | therve: done | 12:17 |
| skraynev | Will add more details lately | 12:17 |
| therve | ramishra, Ultimately we may want to, but there is no reason if it's just to map to neutron model | 12:17 |
| skraynev | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/multiple-vips-for-lbaas | 12:17 |
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| ramishra | therve: IMO, its better if it is inline with neutron api... then it becomes easy for changes for future neutron api spec changes.. however, as I mentioned earlier that's my view | 12:20 |
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| therve | ramishra, Except if you make the change too soon and the neutron API changes in a way that you didn't expect | 12:21 |
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| ramishra | therve: I don't think its going to change much.. only multiple vip mapping for the same pool would be added to the existing v2 api as you pointed out... | 12:22 |
| therve | ramishra, But you don't know :) | 12:23 |
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| ramishra | therve: hmm..ok | 12:25 |
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| therve | ramishra, From what I understood, 1280167 looks like a duplicate of 1258490 | 12:34 |
| ramishra | therve: I had created a BP to rewrite all the changes... however, stevebaker asked to make these incremental changes and multiple bugs | 12:37 |
| ramishra | therve: it's there in the IRC log | 12:37 |
| ramishra | therve: probably because they can't get in the icehouse timeline as a change in a few days | 12:41 |
| therve | ramishra, Mokay. The thing is that those bugs seems to say roughly the same thing, which is "Create a VIP resource" | 12:42 |
| therve | I don't know what are "all the changes" | 12:42 |
| ramishra | therve: one is change to Pool resource (Remove VIP map with the vip_id) | 12:44 |
| therve | ramishra, And by remove you mean deprecate it? :) | 12:44 |
| ramishra | therve: sorry, we can have both id and map coexist.. | 12:46 |
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| ramishra | therve: let me work on the changes without breaking it and get back.. Can we have 2 implementations coexist? Looking for suggestions here.. | 12:51 |
| therve | ramishra, Well I gave you my suggestions multiple times already, which is to wait for the neutron change | 12:51 |
| skraynev | therve: but then I will do it ;) | 12:52 |
| skraynev | ramishra: why is it so important for you implement now? | 12:53 |
| skraynev | AFAIK, there are several bugs without developers.. | 12:53 |
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| ramishra | skraynev: I don't think any more lbaas related changes would be in icehouse from neutron with the freeze in few days..so my thought is to be be api compliant in icehouse | 12:55 |
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| skraynev | ramishra: It's good, idea, but.. if something work and is checked a lot of users, make sense stay it without changes until new release is not opened. | 12:57 |
| jprovazn | therve: I've updated the template to not reference itself - https://gist.github.com/jprovaznik/9091400 but I'm still getting the same error - Returning exception The Resource (notcomputeSlave0Config) is not available. to caller | 12:57 |
| jprovazn | any idea? | 12:57 |
| skraynev | I believe, that you can make it good and really care about relationships with neutron. but if it be bad, we will get unstable and not trusted resource near of release time. | 12:59 |
| therve | jprovazn, I think you still have some. Like notcomputeConfig links to notcompute which links to notcomputeConfig again | 13:00 |
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| ramishra | skraynev: do you have data to suggest that lbaas is used by many users in live deployments? | 13:00 |
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| skraynev | Also I have had meeting with one of core in neutron and he told that they will do some architecture changes in next cycle (not only multi-vips) | 13:01 |
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| ramishra | skraynev: next cycle.. may be you are right... Are there any bps that you can point me to? | 13:02 |
| jprovazn | therve: well, if I replace PrivateDnsName with instance_name, then the template works -> shouldn't be circular dep issue in such case too? | 13:03 |
| therve | jprovazn, I don't know | 13:05 |
| skraynev | ramishra: now only bp with multi-vips. what about others? they discuss new architecture design on summit and then I may share created bp. (unfortunately now the have not final conclusion) | 13:05 |
| ramishra | ramishra: then IMO it's better to keep in scope what is in there in neutron icehouse scope and make changes. anyway, I leave it to the group to decide... | 13:08 |
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| chmouel | a/sen | 13:14 |
| ramishra | skraynev: then IMO it's better to keep in scope what is in there in neutron icehouse scope and make changes. anyway, I leave it to the group to decide... | 13:16 |
| skraynev | ramishra: I have read it already ;) | 13:16 |
| skraynev | ramishra: I just tell you, that it old question and I asked about it at start of icehouse. | 13:17 |
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| SpamapS | hmmmmmmm | 13:55 |
| SpamapS | have we broken Fn::Select or Fn::GetAtt? | 13:55 |
| SpamapS | I'm getting a blank address when using this snippet: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/tree/undercloud-source.yaml#n134 ... the address is coming out '' | 13:56 |
| SpamapS | so I"m getting http://:8000 | 13:56 |
| therve | The snippet doesn't use Select or GetAtt | 13:58 |
| therve | I guess you mean ControllerAddress default? | 13:58 |
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| radix | good morning | 15:04 |
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| andersonvom | radix: morning! | 15:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add admin_pass as attribute and property to server https://review.openstack.org/72745 | 15:18 |
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| SpamapS | therve: yes I meant the ControllerAddress default | 15:39 |
| SpamapS | therve: seemed terribly broken, even after updating with a specific ControllerAddress Metadata that referenced ControllerAddress was not updated. | 15:40 |
| therve | SpamapS, It used to work? | 15:40 |
| SpamapS | therve: definitely | 15:42 |
| SpamapS | therve: seems to have broken some time in the last 24 hours | 15:43 |
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| therve | SpamapS, Zane made some changes I don't understand. Worth investigating | 15:44 |
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| SpamapS | therve: yeah I'm going to try to bisect things tonight | 15:47 |
| therve | If you have a small reproducible example I can have a look | 15:47 |
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| therve | SpamapS, What I don't understand is that you have a dependency cycle in the template, which could result in problems like that | 15:49 |
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| lon | Warm in here. | 15:49 |
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| sdake | zaneb is this implemented properly | 16:04 |
| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74606/ | 16:04 |
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| SpamapS | therve: there's no circle in the template that I see. | 16:14 |
| therve | SpamapS, ControllerAddress -> undercloud -> undercloudConfig -> ControllerAddress | 16:16 |
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| sdake | radix what do you think the top 5 problems are with the current autoscaling implementation in heat | 16:18 |
| therve | Sounds like an interview question | 16:18 |
| sdake | shadower asked me and I came up with a list | 16:19 |
| sdake | wanted to see if they matched :) | 16:19 |
| radix | heh | 16:19 |
| radix | well, the first is probably the lack of being able to scale arbitrary resources | 16:19 |
| radix | (including composed ones) | 16:19 |
| radix | there also probably needs to be more policy options | 16:20 |
| radix | (replace oldest first, or newest first, for example) | 16:20 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add Heat API reference to developer docs https://review.openstack.org/73011 | 16:20 |
| radix | and also the ability to choose specific resources to destroy when scaling down | 16:20 |
| radix | oh, and, core things in Heat like the lack of convergence | 16:21 |
| radix | convergence and failure recovery are suuuper important for autoscaling (and also everything else) | 16:21 |
| sdake | go into more detail on convergence please | 16:21 |
| sdake | first I've heard of it | 16:21 |
| radix | self-healing, being able to recreate or fix a resource that fell out of the expected state | 16:21 |
| sdake | got it | 16:22 |
| sdake | anything else? | 16:22 |
| radix | the failure-recovery part is being able to recover when a resource creation spuriously fails | 16:22 |
| sdake | I came up with | 16:22 |
| sdake | 1) scaling and Heat tightly integrated into one blob | 16:23 |
| sdake | 2) no native scaling resources | 16:23 |
| sdake | 3) no clear documented way for applications to trigger scale events | 16:23 |
| sdake | shadower ^^ there you go thats whats wrong :) | 16:24 |
| radix | I'm working on #2, there's a patch up for review :) | 16:24 |
| shadower | will have a look | 16:24 |
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| sdake | radix do they scale OS::Nova::Server resources? | 16:24 |
| radix | sdake: arbitrary resources | 16:24 |
| radix | you specify the type | 16:24 |
| sdake | planned for i3? | 16:25 |
| radix | the bp is target to i3, yeah :) | 16:25 |
| sdake | cool | 16:25 |
| radix | *ed | 16:25 |
| sdake | getting alot of complaints about autoscaling not working for OS::Nova::Server | 16:25 |
| therve | radix, Should we build native policy too? It should be fairly easy | 16:26 |
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| radix | therve: what do you mean? SpamapS's proposal? | 16:26 |
| therve | radix, I mean OS::Heat::ScalingPolicy | 16:27 |
| radix | oh | 16:27 |
| radix | therve: yeah sure, but I'm not really worried about it | 16:27 |
| radix | it's a purely superficial thing | 16:27 |
| radix | we need to get the actual functionality working | 16:27 |
| therve | True | 16:27 |
| radix | in fact it could be implemented as a template on AWS::AutoScaling::ScalingPolicy | 16:28 |
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| sdake | therve or shardy does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74606/ look right? | 16:28 |
| therve | Hum | 16:29 |
| therve | sdake, What about return self.to_dict().iteritems() ? | 16:29 |
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| shadower | that's what I'd do, too | 16:29 |
| sdake | cool I'll try that | 16:29 |
| therve | sdake, I'm a bit worried about doing the switch to oslo.message that late in the cycle fwiw | 16:30 |
| therve | It doesn't seem to be working so well in nova yet | 16:30 |
| sdake | re switching, we do have 1 month to fix any problems that crop up between i3 and release | 16:31 |
| sdake | so far the api part has been not all that invasive | 16:31 |
| sdake | (except the test cases) | 16:32 |
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| therve | Yeah I would prefer to fix real bugs though :) | 16:32 |
| therve | But okay | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use olso.messaging https://review.openstack.org/72798 | 16:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add an iteritems for RequestContext https://review.openstack.org/74606 | 16:34 |
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| shadower | I saw Python3-related fixes in python-heatclient. What's the story with py3k? | 16:38 |
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| shadower | is it heatclient-only or do we care about it in heat, too? | 16:39 |
| therve | shadower, We need all clients to be ported. | 16:41 |
| therve | So we don't care in the code yet, deps need to be done first | 16:41 |
| shadower | thanks | 16:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Make Keystone client pluggable https://review.openstack.org/74190 | 18:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add Keystone V2 plugin https://review.openstack.org/74191 | 18:00 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: any thoughts on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/extraroute-as-contrib ? I think we should approve | 18:54 |
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| skraynev | zaneb: Could you look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70358/ in free time period? | 19:34 |
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| zaneb | haha "free time period". good one ;) | 19:35 |
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| sdake | zaneb got a noob question again for you | 19:39 |
| sdake | can you help :) | 19:39 |
| sdake | show_deleted = kwargs.get('show_deleted') or context.show_deleted | 19:39 |
| zaneb | yep :) | 19:39 |
| skraynev | zaneb: I am glad here, that you like it) | 19:39 |
| sdake | when I print out context, there is a show_deleted : False in it | 19:39 |
| sdake | wait different error | 19:40 |
| sdake | return (context and context.session) or get_session() | 19:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Handle API limit exception in nova_utils.refresh_server https://review.openstack.org/71660 | 19:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move refresh_server() to nova_utils https://review.openstack.org/72008 | 19:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Make server resources use nova_utils.refresh_server() https://review.openstack.org/72009 | 19:41 |
| sdake | zaneb, starting over with problem :) | 19:41 |
| sdake | show_deleted = kwargs.get('show_deleted') or context.show_deleted | 19:42 |
| sdake | when I print out context, a show_deleted : False is present in the dict | 19:42 |
| sdake | 2014-02-19 12:41:38.403 TRACE oslo.messaging._executors.base AttributeError: 'di | 19:42 |
| sdake | ct' object has no attribute 'show_deleted' | 19:42 |
| sdake | error I get^ | 19:42 |
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| therve | Well context is a dict and has no attribute show_deleted | 19:43 |
| therve | :) | 19:43 |
| sdake | RequestContext has a self.show_deleted | 19:44 |
| zaneb | so it sounds like you're passing a dict where a RequestContext was expected? | 19:45 |
| sdake | the code seems to think its a dict already | 19:45 |
| therve | If it's the db API, it's a context object you need to pass, not a dict | 19:46 |
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| sdake | oslo.messaging is the one passing the context | 19:47 |
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| zaneb | sdake: so you may need to reconstruct the context by calling RequestContext.from_dict() after you get it from oslo.messaging | 19:49 |
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| therve | sdake, You removed the request_context decorator maybe? | 19:50 |
| sdake | therve that is probably it thanks | 19:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Improve help strings https://review.openstack.org/74816 | 20:00 |
| skraynev | Is alter-time meeting today? | 20:01 |
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| stevebaker | morning | 20:13 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: +1 on extraroutes config | 20:13 |
| zaneb | ok | 20:13 |
| zaneb | ta | 20:13 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: hi, thank for the answer on review with provider network ;) | 20:16 |
| stevebaker | is it still before the feature proposal freeze somewhere in the world? | 20:16 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: technically... no | 20:18 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: I'm just thinking we have a bunch of properties to deprecate as part of bug fixes, but no mechanism to marke them deprecated | 20:20 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: I don't think anyone is going to call you out for implementing that | 20:21 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: I'd like to add a schema field which takes a resource.SupportStatus | 20:21 |
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| zaneb | sounds kinda heavyweight | 20:22 |
| zaneb | in a way I think we'd be doing users a disservice by providing any annotations more complicated than "use this" and "don't use this" | 20:23 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: we do need at least a deprecation message, and I can see us using all of SupportStatus in the future for our documentation generation | 20:24 |
| therve | stevebaker, Where would the deprecation message appear? | 20:25 |
| zaneb | agree on the deprecation message, so you're probably right | 20:25 |
| zaneb | therve: in the docs | 20:25 |
| skraynev | zaneb: about validation of outputs. You offer make rebase on it, right? | 20:25 |
| stevebaker | therve: in the resource reference section of the template guide | 20:25 |
| therve | stevebaker, We may as well write some text then | 20:26 |
| zaneb | skraynev: yes, I suggest you rebase on that patch series | 20:26 |
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| skraynev | zaneb: good. I have had such idea, i guess it was one of the reason why I asked you about reviewing it. | 20:27 |
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| zaneb | ++ thanks for letting me know | 20:28 |
| skraynev | zaneb: lol, np ;) | 20:28 |
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| skraynev | zaneb: and one more question about it: I am not sure, that we can check get_attr before creating resource, because it depend on resource status. | 20:36 |
| zaneb | skraynev: right, it returns None if the resource is not in the right status | 20:36 |
| zaneb | but that's not a problem | 20:37 |
| skraynev | and when you mentioned about resource section, what did you mean? | 20:37 |
| skraynev | validate method? | 20:37 |
| zaneb | I mean we validate the resource section of the template too | 20:37 |
| zaneb | and that has cross-references between resources with get_attr | 20:37 |
| skraynev | oh. understand | 20:37 |
| skraynev | so what about None? | 20:38 |
| skraynev | why is not problem? | 20:38 |
| skraynev | if we get None, we will not check this attribute it at all. | 20:39 |
| skraynev | or I am missing something | 20:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Daneyon Hansen proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Adds Support for OpenShift Origin v3.0 on Fedora 19 https://review.openstack.org/74450 | 20:45 |
| zaneb | skraynev: true. it's fairly poor validation. but at least we check the resource exists | 20:47 |
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| stevebaker | therve: hey, do the new runtime constraints allow the value to be replaced? (such as name->id?) | 20:56 |
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| sdake | good news everybody, oslo.messaging seems to mostly work :) | 21:00 |
| sdake | now to beat the test cases into submission | 21:00 |
| skraynev | zaneb: but the main problem of my bug is checking attribute (not resource). Also could you please point a place in code with checking (I mean resource section) | 21:01 |
| stevebaker | \o/ | 21:01 |
| skraynev | sdake: really good news :) | 21:01 |
| sdake | yes, although there are random exceptions popping up here and there | 21:01 |
| sdake | need to sort those out | 21:01 |
| sdake | but can create/list/describe/delete stacks :) | 21:01 |
| * stevebaker looks for a property to deprecate, with prejudice | 21:02 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add ability to create provider networks (vlan,flat). https://review.openstack.org/72454 | 21:06 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: Hello reg:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72454/ after our irc yesterday, I had the impression that you did not suggest move the repeatable code to a static methods for readability... may be I understood you incorrectly | 21:09 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: updated with a new patch | 21:09 |
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| stevebaker | ramishra: looks fine to me | 21:10 |
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| ramishra | stevabker: ok.thanx.. please review it.. | 21:12 |
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| ramishra | stevebaker: reg lbaas resource bugs..I had a chat with therve.. he is of the opinion that we should wait for any more neutron api changes before changing it...but I don't see many API changes | 21:14 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: I am not a subject matter expert for lbaas. I would defer to therve's opinion | 21:15 |
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| ramishra | stevebaker: my view is the model is frozen in neutron at the moment inline with https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LBaaS/CoreResourceModel/proposal | 21:16 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: ok... | 21:16 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: convince therve then ;) | 21:16 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: ok will try;) | 21:18 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: about lbaas vip bugs, which were mentioned by ramishra. I not fully understand why we create two new bugs instead https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1258490 | 21:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1258490 in heat "Moving vip in separate resource or making it more clear." [Medium,New] | 21:21 |
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| skraynev | I was surprised that we get two new bugs with same aim. Also therve mentioned the reason (which was in comments for this bug), why we have not done it yet (in icehouse). | 21:24 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: what you describe appears to be some incremental changes to add missing properties and rename the resource. Is this correct? | 21:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use olso.messaging https://review.openstack.org/72798 | 21:30 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: not fully. at the first time the idea was such as said ramishra - move VIP to separate resource and make architecture of lbaas same with neutron's. | 21:32 |
| skraynev | But when I failed this bug, I had had discussion with therve and shardy about reason. | 21:32 |
| skraynev | so now I plan to wait changes in neutron (unfortunately it will be in juno) and then change current resource scheme | 21:34 |
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| skraynev | first step is (with bp) moving vip to separate resource for supporting multiple vips per pool (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/multiple-vips-for-lbaas) | 21:35 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: that looks like a reasonable plan. ramishra are you OK with halting your efforts for now? | 21:37 |
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| ramishra | stevebaker: IMO, the model is almost frozen for icehouse (I don't think multiple vip->pool bp would land in icehouse), so we should get the resource inline with the model...any changes for juno we should do in juno | 21:39 |
| stevebaker | ramishra, skraynev, can you both attend today's 0000 UTC meeting to discuss this? | 21:40 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: having said that I am ok if the group decides otherwise...leave it till juno... | 21:41 |
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| stevebaker | ramishra, skraynev, ideally I'd like you two to figure it out | 21:42 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: In juno, there are additional l7 changes, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/LoadbalancerInstance | 21:42 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: I am not sure, that I could join to meeting today (4 Am in my time zone will be). But if it necessary and can not be moved to the next week meeting, I will try . | 21:44 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: that seems unreasonably late. A thread on openstack-dev might be better | 21:45 |
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| skraynev | ramishra: about l7 and ssl supporting, could you look it: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/lbaas-l7-rules-support , but it stiil wait juno release | 21:46 |
| skraynev | s/stiil/too | 21:46 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: sounds like there is no hurry then. It will be looked at | 21:48 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: Is it possible to create such thread tomorrow? (I mean your early morning and my evening) | 21:48 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: yes, post the message when you're ready | 21:49 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: he-he. Neutron team has other problems in gate . I think it's more important. Also they wait summit to make design for new neutron architecture | 21:50 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: just for clarification: the main questions for message: changes in neutron and how,when it will be implemented in heat, right? | 21:52 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: yes, and whether we make some incremental improvements to our existing LB resource before the icehouse release, or do it all in juno | 21:53 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: gotcha | 21:54 |
| skraynev | I am happy, that we find conclusion ! | 21:54 |
| skraynev | it's good reason go to sleep ;) | 21:54 |
| skraynev | night | 21:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add admin_pass as attribute and property to server https://review.openstack.org/72745 | 21:57 |
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| sdake | zaneb would you mind taking this review https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1067184 | 22:24 |
| uvirtbot | sdake: Error: Could not parse XML returned by bugzilla.redhat.com: HTTP Error 404: Not Found | 22:24 |
| zaneb | sure, can do | 22:25 |
| sdake | thx | 22:25 |
| zaneb | not that I have ever used/seen os-apply-config... | 22:25 |
| sdake | its required for software config | 22:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor SupportStatus into its own module https://review.openstack.org/74853 | 22:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add support_status attribute to properties schema https://review.openstack.org/74854 | 22:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use support_status for existing deprecated properties https://review.openstack.org/74855 | 22:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use property support_status in documentation generation https://review.openstack.org/74856 | 22:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Doc generation display message for deprecated resources https://review.openstack.org/74857 | 22:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow update of admin_pass on server https://review.openstack.org/72746 | 23:02 |
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| sdake | zaneb can you take another review: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1067200 | 23:02 |
| uvirtbot | sdake: Error: Could not parse XML returned by bugzilla.redhat.com: HTTP Error 404: Not Found | 23:02 |
| zaneb | ok, should be fairly similar | 23:03 |
| sdake | this one has a systemd file | 23:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/heat-cfnclient: Rename Openstack to OpenStack https://review.openstack.org/73175 | 23:17 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add systemd notification support to heat https://review.openstack.org/74489 | 23:22 |
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| sdake | zaneb: last one https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1067216 | 23:41 |
| uvirtbot | sdake: Error: Could not parse XML returned by bugzilla.redhat.com: HTTP Error 404: Not Found | 23:41 |
| sdake | enjoy :) | 23:41 |
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