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| sdake | zaneb yes, but using obsoletes kicks out an error from rpmlint | 00:03 |
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| zaneb | ugh :( | 00:03 |
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| zaneb | what was the error? | 00:04 |
| sdake | sec | 00:04 |
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| sdake | openstack-heat-templates.noarch: W: obsolete-not-provided heat-jeos | 00:05 |
| zaneb | sdake: that's only a warning though, not an error | 00:05 |
| zaneb | given that the packaging guidelines specifically state a case where that's legit and this seems to fit it, I'd be inclined to do it anyway | 00:06 |
| sdake | wfm | 00:06 |
| sdake | i'll update | 00:06 |
| sdake | can you add a comment to the bug | 00:07 |
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| sdake | so the repo guys know what changed ;) | 00:07 |
| zaneb | yep, was just typing it | 00:07 |
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| zaneb | done | 00:10 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Refactor Instance#_check_active https://review.openstack.org/62478 | 00:10 |
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| zaneb | oh wow, tempest caught a real bug | 00:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Convert Server to new Schema format https://review.openstack.org/61786 | 00:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use the new Schema class for template generation https://review.openstack.org/64900 | 00:20 |
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| zaneb | sdake: package review complete | 01:09 |
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| stevebaker | hey, this was approved but the tests were failing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58875/ | 01:10 |
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| SpamapS | gah rongze came back :-P | 01:49 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fixes missing resource number checking https://review.openstack.org/65050 | 01:51 |
| sdake | zaneb thanks | 01:52 |
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| sdake | rongze feel free to msg me when you fix your internet - but your connect/disconnect is really disruptive to the channel | 01:54 |
| sdake | ta :) | 01:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Use oslo db.migration script https://review.openstack.org/64750 | 04:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jenkins proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/64504 | 07:13 |
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| shardy | morning | 07:28 |
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| scroiset | morning Heaters | 07:33 |
| scroiset | happy new year! | 07:33 |
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| shardy | hi scroiset! | 07:34 |
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| scroiset | hi shardy | 07:35 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fixes imperfect checking on update_stack() https://review.openstack.org/65202 | 07:36 |
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| alienyyg | shardy: have you built a new box to test that authentication error? | 08:00 |
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| alienyyg | shardy: I just build one with nova network(all in one), but it fails again | 08:02 |
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| alienyyg | shardy: maybe the answer-file is incorrect? or I can't explain why I failed all the time but it work for you. http://paste.openstack.org/show/60585/ | 08:06 |
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| shardy | alienyyg: It is an RDO test day today, so I'm planning to test Havana and Icehouse-1 installs, hopefully with and without neutron | 08:10 |
| shardy | alienyyg: I tested Heat trunk against RDO Havana openstack yesterday and I could not find any problems (nova-network) | 08:11 |
| SpamapS | booo nova-network booooo | 08:11 |
| shardy | alienyyg: I thought we established yesterday that the authentication was working for you, but that you had spurious failures in the logs? | 08:12 |
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| shardy | SpamapS: HaHa. I want to give it up, honestly I do, I just havent found the magic needed to make neutron actually work yet | 08:13 |
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| alienyyg | shardy: that means something else might went wrong? because the scalup didn't appear | 08:27 |
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| alienyyg | shardy: can you take a look at the answer-file whether I miss some component if I wanna do autoscaling with aws resource(I think the aws resource can only be used in nova network because the create of reserouce need admin permission , but the admin user always has at least 2 network with neutron , the loadbalancer desn't supose two network) | 08:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Don't query for resource during stack creation https://review.openstack.org/63914 | 10:07 |
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| scroiset | ping stevebaker | 10:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Feng Ju proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix heat-keystone-setup error when try to create heat user https://review.openstack.org/65238 | 10:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Feng Ju proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix heat-keystone-setup error when try to create heat user https://review.openstack.org/65238 | 10:33 |
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| scroiset | ping shardy, may be you can enlighten me if you have 2 minutes ? | 10:54 |
| shardy | scroiset: sure | 10:56 |
| scroiset | cool. I've a review which implements a closed BP.. | 10:56 |
| scroiset | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62087/ | 10:56 |
| scroiset | I think this BP was closed too early | 10:57 |
| scroiset | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/send-notification | 10:57 |
| scroiset | what can I do ? | 10:57 |
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| therve | scroiset, Does it create a problem? | 10:59 |
| therve | Otherwise you can just change the status of the BP | 11:01 |
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| scroiset | humm, .. just the link search doesn't find the bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack/?searchtext=send-notification | 11:01 |
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| shardy | scroiset: I'd probably just raise a new BP, e.g send-notification-autoscaling or something | 11:02 |
| shardy | and make that depend on the one which is already implemented | 11:02 |
| scroiset | therve: I can't change status | 11:02 |
| therve | scroiset, "Implemented" bp are not returned by the search | 11:02 |
| shardy | therve: I don't think un-closing BPs is a good idea, because it's marked as delivered for the I1 milestone | 11:02 |
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| therve | Okay :) | 11:03 |
| scroiset | shardy: I'll open an other ok | 11:03 |
| scroiset | thanks. | 11:03 |
| shardy | np | 11:04 |
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| alienyyg | shardy: I am sure this problem really exist, I just tried the autoscaling ,but and got authorized error, but this time ,sometime is different, it is "User is not authorized to perform action" , not "The request signature we calculated does not match the signature you provided" I met yestoday, a little stranve | 12:20 |
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| therve | alienyyg, Are you using master? | 12:24 |
| alienyyg | therve: sorry but what is that? the mast branch? | 12:24 |
| therve | alienyyg, Yes | 12:25 |
| alienyyg | therve: I am not sure, I just do all the deploy with RDO | 12:25 |
| therve | Hum unlikely then, forget about it | 12:26 |
| alienyyg | therve: OK , you mean this? https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg24867.html | 12:27 |
| alienyyg | api-cloudwatch.log: http://paste.openstack.org/show/60384/ | 12:28 |
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| alienyyg | sorry, the one I just print is witch I got yestoday, this one is what I got just now: http://paste.openstack.org/show/60621/ | 12:29 |
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| alienyyg | two many spell errors tody :( | 12:31 |
| shardy | alienyyg: What image are you using when launching the stack? | 12:32 |
| alienyyg | shardy: F17, you told me F17 works in you case | 12:33 |
| shardy | I have tested with F17, F19 and 20 images and they all work | 12:34 |
| shardy | but it looks like your stack has one instance which is signing the requests correctly, and one which is not | 12:34 |
| shardy | Is your template completely unmodified? | 12:34 |
| alienyyg | shardy: I modify the loadbalancer.py "the waitcondition" to extend the wait time from 600s to 6000s, the template is unmodified | 12:40 |
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| sdake | morning | 13:48 |
| shardy | Hi sdake | 13:48 |
| shadower | hey | 13:48 |
| sdake | sup guys | 13:48 |
| shadower | started to look at heat again \o/ | 13:49 |
| shardy | That's good new shadower - anything in particular you're planning to work on? | 13:49 |
| shardy | good news even | 13:50 |
| shadower | shardy: right now I'm just trying to figure out what changed, looking at reviews and I'll try to fix some bugs to get familiar with the codebase again | 13:50 |
| shadower | shardy: I should be able to dedicate some time to just working on Heat proper | 13:51 |
| shardy | shadower: cool, sounds good :) | 13:52 |
| shadower | :-) | 13:53 |
| shadower | but yeah the context of this is with tuskar/tripleo so if there's something we're missing or writing horrible workarounds instead of using Heat correctly it'd be good to have a few people familiar with both | 13:53 |
| shardy | shadower: Yeah that would be awesome - I've had a few tuskar related discussions recently and it will be great to have someone who can span both projects | 13:54 |
| shadower | cool | 13:56 |
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| rpothier | reboot | 13:58 |
| rpothier | oops, wrong window | 13:58 |
| pscheie | We use OS/heat to allow us to spin up various environments, prod, dev, test, etc. | 13:58 |
| pscheie | In each env, we essentially have on application per VM. | 13:59 |
| pscheie | The apps can scale horizontally if we need. | 14:00 |
| pscheie | How do I specify in heat to spin multiple instances of a VM? | 14:00 |
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| pscheie | Do I just give each resource a slightly different name? | 14:00 |
| pscheie | I don't need it to scale dynamically, that is, on the fly. | 14:01 |
| pscheie | I just want to be able to, say, run two instances/VMs for a specific application. | 14:01 |
| shardy | pscheie: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Heat::InstanceGroup | 14:02 |
| shardy | sounds like InstanceGroup may do what you need | 14:02 |
| pscheie | shardy, thank you. | 14:02 |
| shardy | it's a static version of AutoScalingGroups | 14:02 |
| shardy | There is also ResourceGroup which gives you some more flexibility if you want a group of non-instance resources (or a group of nested stacks, or provider resources which are really nested stacks) | 14:04 |
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| pscheie | What does LaunchConfigurationName refer to? | 14:20 |
| therve | pscheie, a LaunchConfiguration | 14:21 |
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| shardy | pscheie: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/cfn/F17/AutoScalingMultiAZSample.template#L191 | 14:34 |
| pscheie | A LaunchConfig is a type of resource, then? | 14:38 |
| shardy | pscheie: Yes: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/cfn.html#AWS::AutoScaling::LaunchConfiguration | 14:38 |
| shardy | we don't have a native equivalent for that yet, so you have to use the AWS compatible resource | 14:39 |
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| therve | jasond`: Hi! Is Randall around? | 14:49 |
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| jasond` | therve: hi. he's traveling to san antonio this morning | 14:50 |
| jasond` | he'll be in this afternoon | 14:51 |
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| therve | Dang | 14:52 |
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| therve | jasond`I wanted to talk about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/param-constraints | 14:52 |
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| therve | I feel it may be what I'd want to do but the BP is a bit vague | 14:53 |
| pscheie | Is LaunchConfiguration only used in the context of AutoScaling? | 14:53 |
| therve | I want to expose constraints like "type: nova.flavor" or "type: glance.image", so that consumer like Horizon can do interesting things with those parameters | 14:54 |
| therve | pscheie, Yes | 14:54 |
| * pscheie is trying to grok the purpose/distinction of LaunchConfiguration | 14:54 | |
| therve | pscheie, It's a template to launch an instance, basically | 14:54 |
| jasond` | therve: hm, i think tims is pretty up-to-speed on that | 14:55 |
| jasond` | he should be in soon | 14:55 |
| therve | Cool | 14:55 |
| therve | I thought so :) | 14:55 |
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| pscheie | So, what's the difference between that and 'Type: AWS::EC2::Instance' ? | 14:58 |
| therve | EC2::Instance creates a server. LaunchConfiguration holds everything AutoScalingGroup needs to do so | 14:59 |
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| pscheie | If I'm using InstanceGroup instead of AutoScalingGroup, then what does the LaunchConfigurationName refer to? | 15:01 |
| pscheie | IOW, do I have to have a LaunchConfiguration defined within my InstanceGroup? | 15:01 |
| therve | What I said remains the same if you replace AutoScalingGroup by InstanceGroup | 15:03 |
| therve | https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/cfn/F17/InstanceGroup.template should show you a simple example | 15:03 |
| pscheie | Ah, I think I see it now. | 15:05 |
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| sdake | did the upstream meeting split into two times yet? | 15:15 |
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| zaneb | sdake: I believe it's normal time this week, and not-normal time next week | 15:29 |
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| therve | zaneb, What are the times? | 15:30 |
| sdake | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda | 15:31 |
| sdake | not updated there | 15:31 |
| sdake | I'm not sure if the results from the poll are in | 15:31 |
| zaneb | therve: normal time is the normal time and not-normal time is still tbd afaik | 15:31 |
| therve | Okay | 15:32 |
| zaneb | it might be decided at the meeting tomorrow ;) | 15:32 |
| therve | zaneb, because afaiu the not normal was supposed to be 3h later, so I didn't really see the point | 15:32 |
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| zaneb | therve: yeah, the not-normal one probably does not work for folks in Europe | 15:33 |
| therve | The choices in the doodle were a bit weird to be honest. I didn't understand why we didn't have more choices | 15:33 |
| sdake | therve it was 5-7 hours later | 15:33 |
| sdake | therve I believe the choices were focused around delivering a time that apac can participate without it being ass crack of dawn | 15:33 |
| sdake | specifically china | 15:34 |
| therve | sdake, Well there are 24h in a day, so we should be able to choose 2 hours with more difference | 15:34 |
| zaneb | therve: most folks in europe were making the existing meeting, the point of the time change was to make it possible for folks in Asia (mostly Beijing) to participate | 15:34 |
| * therve shrugs | 15:35 | |
| sdake | therve we dont want to lose the US/Europe in the process of adding a new meeting iirc :) | 15:35 |
| zaneb | therve: there's not much point in having two meetings with an entirely disjoint set of participants. at that point we've just split into 2 projects ;) | 15:35 |
| therve | zaneb, well I don't see how that's possible though. Surely it should always be accessible by one region. | 15:36 |
| zaneb | yes, but which region? | 15:37 |
| therve | Does it matter? | 15:37 |
| zaneb | currently it's NZ because stevebaker is the PTL and he has to be there | 15:38 |
| therve | Okay fair enough | 15:38 |
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| therve | The time slot is going to be inconvenient one week, impossible the other for me, that's all | 15:39 |
| therve | AFAICT the time with most voters is only 4h later | 15:39 |
| zaneb | yeah, I understand. I did the inconvenient time slot for 2.5 years. And then the moment I move to the US and it becomes convenient, we switch to alternating between convenient and inconvenient ;) | 15:40 |
| zaneb | 1.5 years that should be | 15:40 |
| sdake | i'm not convinced having two separate time slots will be beneficial, but who knows, willing to try :) | 15:41 |
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| sdake | I think a consistent time really helps people put it into their weekly schedule | 15:42 |
| zaneb | therve: the times proposed are 7-10pm in the US already, so if we make them later we will lose all of the US and possibly still not pick up Europe | 15:42 |
| therve | zaneb, There are certainly too many constraints | 15:43 |
| sdake | therve where are you based? | 15:43 |
| therve | sdake, France | 15:43 |
| sdake | cool | 15:43 |
| sdake | basically it is impossible to schedule APAC and US and Europe all at the same time | 15:43 |
| sdake | we did a really good job with the 2000 UTC slot - that is the "worst" time for eveyrone :) | 15:43 |
| therve | Yeah exactly | 15:44 |
| sdake | it was actually good for me - middle of day | 15:44 |
| therve | I used to be able to come, but I can't anymore | 15:44 |
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| therve | Fricking New Zealand :) | 15:45 |
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| zaneb | therve: yeah, I hate those bastards! | 15:48 |
| zaneb | wait... | 15:48 |
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| shardy | gah neutron-- | 15:59 |
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| * shardy never learns, wasted another day breaking everything in the fruitless persuit of overcomplicated networking :( | 15:59 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement adopt-stack for nested stacks https://review.openstack.org/64720 | 16:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement adopt-stack https://review.openstack.org/62730 | 16:01 |
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| alexpilotti | shardy: hi! | 16:04 |
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| shardy | alexpilotti: hi | 16:05 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: sdake geave some very useful insights on teh usage of WaitConditions / DependsOn | 16:06 |
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| alexpilotti | shardy: sdake suggested me to contact you to ask about some implementation details | 16:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Check resources are in expected states https://review.openstack.org/58641 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add way to group exceptions in DependencyTaskGroup https://review.openstack.org/62479 | 16:07 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: in particular, I found mostly AWS specific examples, where the signal URL is AWS specific | 16:07 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: do you have some pointers about how to handle signals in Heat? | 16:07 |
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| shardy | alexpilotti: Yes, we're working on fixing that, but currently we only use the AWS style pre-signed URLs | 16:08 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: great, can you pleas etell me what the pre-signed URL to be used is? | 16:08 |
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| sdake | shardy does that icehouse bug you reported affect RHOS4? | 16:09 |
| shardy | sdake: The bugs I've reported today are all Havana actually, I've not got to testing Icehouse yet :( | 16:09 |
| shardy | so yes | 16:09 |
| shardy | although I've not seen the exact same neutron brokenness on RHEL+RHOS4 | 16:10 |
| sdake | seems like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1049488 needs an upstream bug | 16:10 |
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| shardy | alexpilotti: The signed URL is created using the AWS signature format, using a keystone ec2-keypair | 16:10 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: ok tx, do you have some pointers or examples for the full procedure to get it working? | 16:11 |
| shardy | alexpilotti: What are you aiming to do, send a signal to heat to trigger a scaling event, or a wait condition notification? | 16:11 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: actually both is 2 different scenarios | 16:12 |
| shardy | alexpilotti: Heat should do it all for you, inside the SignalResponder resource | 16:12 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: I'd start with the wait condition notification | 16:12 |
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| alexpilotti | shardy: are there any samples available by any chance? | 16:13 |
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| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/cfn/F17/WordPress_Single_Instance_With_IHA.template#L210 | 16:13 |
| shardy | alexpilotti: There are several examples in heat-templates, that shows how to do the waitcondition signal | 16:13 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: ok tx, I'll take a look! | 16:14 |
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| alexpilotti | shardy: changing topic, are there features from the hot-software-config BPs that will land in Icehouse? | 16:14 |
| shardy | alexpilotti: for scaling events, you can use the ScalingPolicy AlarmUrl attribute: | 16:15 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/cfn/F17/AutoScalingCeilometer.yaml#L71 | 16:15 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: tx!! | 16:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Richard Lee proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add filter and pagination to stack_get_all https://review.openstack.org/63039 | 16:15 |
| shardy | alexpilotti: Yes, stevebaker is working on them primarily, and I've been looking on reworking the way we do in-instance authentication, so we can remove the requirement for all the AWS signed request stuff | 16:16 |
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| shardy | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/InstanceUsers | 16:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Unscoped List Stacks https://review.openstack.org/63041 | 16:16 |
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| shardy | andersonvom: hi | 16:16 |
| andersonvom | shardy: hey! | 16:17 |
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| alexpilotti | shardy: great tx, we're primaly working on WIndows instances, will take a look, do tests and contribute reviews and Windows specific code if needed | 16:17 |
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| shardy | Hey andersonvom I wanted to check you'd seen my comment re service-scoped tokens on that patch you just rebased? | 16:17 |
| shardy | Looks pretty cool, I think it's essentially exactly what we need for the management API | 16:17 |
| shardy | not sure on the implementation status yet tho, need to find out | 16:18 |
| andersonvom | shardy: yup. I was just looking at the specs but I'm not quite sure I fully understand it yet. | 16:18 |
| shardy | alexpilotti: great, there is a BP you can take if you like? | 16:19 |
| shardy | alexpilotti: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/windows-instances | 16:19 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: sure, looking at it! | 16:21 |
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| shardy | alexpilotti: we need to work out what needs to be done for Heat to support windows instances, initially test/documentation | 16:21 |
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| shardy | alexpilotti: It doesn't really contain any info, it's more a reminder that we'd like to do it :) | 16:21 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: cloudbase-init is our project, so we can definitely work on it :-) | 16:21 |
| andersonvom | shardy: and there's the fact that it's just the spec, right? so it may take some time for it to get implemented and pulled in? | 16:21 |
| shardy | alexpilotti: awesome, I'll be interested to hear how you get on - lots of users have been asking for windows instance support | 16:22 |
| shardy | alexpilotti: if cloudbase-init is compatible with userdata containing cloud-init data (cloud-config and part-handler) hopefully it shouldn't be too hard to get things working | 16:23 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: we are currently writing templates for Active directory, MSSQL, Exchange, Sharepoint, etc | 16:23 |
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| alexpilotti | shardy: heat templates are alraedy working | 16:23 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: I did a session on that in HK | 16:23 |
| shardy | andersonvom: Thats what we need to find out, I'll ask dolpm later what the status is | 16:24 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: it simply works by supporting multi-part userdata | 16:24 |
| shardy | alexpilotti: Cool, and sorry I must've missed that, too many sessions, too little time ;) | 16:24 |
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| andersonvom | shardy: I'm tempted to say that we could go with the current implementation for now, since it's backwards compatible anyway and switching to the new keystone would require very little effort, once it gets done. plus it allows for this functionality to be available even for folks not running the latest keystone | 16:24 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: yeah, too many things to track! | 16:25 |
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| shardy | andersonvom: Yeah, that's probably a good plan unless the new keystone stuff is imminent | 16:26 |
| shardy | andersonvom: that doc review makes it sounds like it's already done, but I don't see any other patches on the BP whiteboard | 16:26 |
| alexpilotti | shardy: would you like to assign it to me? I'd gladly take care of it | 16:28 |
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| shardy | alexpilotti: done, thanks! | 16:32 |
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| therve | randallburt, Hi, around? | 16:43 |
| randallburt | therve: oh hi, jasond was just pinging me about you | 16:45 |
| therve | randallburt, Hey, I wanted to chat about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/param-constraints | 16:45 |
| randallburt | sorry I missed you earlier. I'm on short travel today | 16:45 |
| randallburt | sure. | 16:45 |
| therve | No worries | 16:45 |
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| randallburt | so, the basics of that bp have been implemented in HOT already, but the service-specific ones and making them plug-able isn't | 16:46 |
| therve | randallburt, I was wondering if we could start by having "false" constraints, ie some kind of agreement on naming for openstack constraints | 16:46 |
| therve | Like constraints: [type: nova.flavor] | 16:47 |
| randallburt | therve: ah, ok | 16:47 |
| therve | That would let consumer of templates populate fields nicely | 16:47 |
| randallburt | meaning that the value must be a valid nova flavor | 16:47 |
| therve | Right | 16:48 |
| randallburt | indeed. that was one of the sub-bps and something I think adds value in that we can validate the param value prior to spinning up stuff in the stack | 16:48 |
| therve | nova.keypair, glance.image, neutron.subnet, etc for each entities that we could have | 16:48 |
| therve | Well after we could remove the manual validation that we inconsistently do | 16:49 |
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| randallburt | sounds good to me. The only thing I got stuck on IIRC was making them as easy to add as resources since it sounds to me like they may go a little hand-in-hand | 16:49 |
| therve | Ah I see, you'd like something pluggable | 16:49 |
| randallburt | meaning if you add OS::Nova::Server, you can just as easily add nova.flavor, nova.image, etc. | 16:50 |
| randallburt | yeah | 16:50 |
| randallburt | probably not a have-to for the first go, though. | 16:50 |
| therve | I guess there is some crossed interest with things like convergence or adopt | 16:50 |
| therve | IE "here's something supposed to be a nova instance id, please check" | 16:51 |
| randallburt | hrm, the dependency sounds a bit tenuous, but I can sorta see that | 16:52 |
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| therve | randallburt, Well thinking out loud, you could put a constraint on Nova::Server resource_id, which would automagically check it | 16:53 |
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| randallburt | therve: could be, though i think that may be a bit more generic in the adopt case. then again, I think there's a general case for a nova.server constraint for things like load balancers and the like. | 16:54 |
| randallburt | so its kinda moot. | 16:55 |
| therve | *Possibly*. Let's not talk about load balancers :) | 16:55 |
| therve | Although, now I remembed what Zane said about parameter schema and property schema | 16:57 |
| andersonvom | shardy: stand up here. so, but even if the new keystone bp gets developed super fast, it would still be nice to have a way for folks running keystone v2 to do management stuff as well, right? | 16:57 |
| therve | Maybe they should be the same first | 16:57 |
| shardy | andersonvom: well v2 keystone is being deprecated so we should probably remove all dependency on it soon | 16:58 |
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| andersonvom | shardy: yes! "soon" ;) | 16:59 |
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| randallburt | therve: that sounds reasonable. | 16:59 |
| shardy | andersonvom: well as in, ideally during icehouse, I raised a BP and have been working on ensuring all the various bits of the v3 API we need work | 16:59 |
| shardy | some don't, which has delayed things a little | 17:00 |
| shardy | andersonvom: but yeah, sure, there's no reason we couldn't support the rbac approach too | 17:01 |
| shardy | I suppose it's just going to be a change of policy rather than actual code changes | 17:01 |
| therve | zaneb, Do you know if there is a blueprint for parameter schema refactoring? | 17:01 |
| zaneb | therve: I don't know | 17:01 |
| * zaneb looks... | 17:02 | |
| therve | zaneb, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/parameter-nested-schema maybe? | 17:02 |
| zaneb | that's certainly going to be related | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Chmouel Boudjnah proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Add swift hot example. https://review.openstack.org/65323 | 17:03 |
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| andersonvom | shardy: o/ | 17:03 |
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| zaneb | therve: everything I know about it is captured in the commit msg + reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58299/ | 17:06 |
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| therve | Ah there is a bug | 17:06 |
| zaneb | therve: tspatzier has been on holiday since early December, so I assume he will be back soon | 17:07 |
| therve | Ah makes sense | 17:07 |
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| tspatzier | zaneb, therve: I'm back actually. Today is my first day. Happy new year :-) | 17:10 |
| zaneb | tspatzier: Happy new year! welcome back :) | 17:10 |
| therve | tspatzier, Welcome back! Happy new year to you :) | 17:10 |
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| zaneb | therve: that's probably the last we'll see of him for about a month while he gets his inbox under control :D | 17:11 |
| therve | Ahah | 17:11 |
| zaneb | if it's anything like mine anyway | 17:11 |
| tspatzier | Ctrl +A, Delete ;-) | 17:13 |
| tspatzier | No, working my way thru ... | 17:13 |
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| zaneb | tempting... | 17:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Schnell proposed a change to openstack/heat: Adds Parameter Label to template validate call https://review.openstack.org/65325 | 17:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Schnell proposed a change to openstack/heat: Adds Parameter Label to HOT spec and parameter schema https://review.openstack.org/62418 | 17:13 |
| SpamapS | the magic of "archive" | 17:14 |
| tspatzier | anyway, what have you been talking about? | 17:14 |
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| zaneb | tspatzier: about making the parameters schema use the constraints.Schema class | 17:14 |
| zaneb | therve has been doing some work in that area | 17:15 |
| zaneb | e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65091/ | 17:15 |
| zaneb | which I have been meaning to review | 17:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Swann Croiset proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add autoscaling notifications https://review.openstack.org/62087 | 17:15 |
| therve | tspatzier, Yeah that one might be a bit annoying for you | 17:15 |
| tspatzier | Ah, ok. Yeah, the second change set is still on my harddisk. Wasn't able to finish this in December, but should be 95% percent done. | 17:16 |
| therve | Cool | 17:16 |
| tspatzier | ... but have to see what merges there are in the meantime | 17:16 |
| therve | tspatzier, The other thing I'm looking is advanced constraints, which would be much nicer once the 2 schemas are merged | 17:16 |
| tspatzier | i.e. I was working on making param schema a subclass of the generic Schema class I factored into constraints.py in that other change set | 17:17 |
| tspatzier | therve, yeah, that's why I wanted to work on the converged schema code, since this will save us work in the future. | 17:18 |
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| andersonvom | shardy: so, just to make sure... we keep our current changes and then just change policy.json when keystone is ready, right? i.e. we still keep everything else in the patch | 17:18 |
| therve | tspatzier, Anyway, let me know if I can be of any help :) | 17:18 |
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| tspatzier | therve, will do. I hope to get back to real work soon and work on this change :-) | 17:20 |
| shardy | andersonvom: yeah that's what I'm currently thinking, although maybe we will end up needing to rename the policy rule | 17:20 |
| shardy | context_is_service_scoped or something | 17:20 |
| shardy | maybe we just s/cloud/service in the current name? | 17:21 |
| andersonvom | and keep everything as "service_admin" | 17:21 |
| shardy | Yup, as that naming will make sense with either implementation? | 17:22 |
| andersonvom | ? I'd agree with that since it'd be consistent | 17:22 |
| andersonvom | yeah | 17:22 |
| andersonvom | cool. I'll go ahead and change it | 17:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement adopt-stack for nested stacks https://review.openstack.org/64720 | 17:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement adopt-stack https://review.openstack.org/62730 | 17:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Unscoped List Stacks https://review.openstack.org/63041 | 17:50 |
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| SpamapS | vijendar: regarding RPC versions, I'm not entirely sure. | 17:59 |
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| vijendar | SpamapS: do you know, who can provide more info on tihs? | 18:00 |
| andersonvom | interesting, my patch suddenly is not dependent on the patch it was before, even though it clearly is! o.O | 18:05 |
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| SpamapS | vijendar: actually just thinking about it logically.. | 18:06 |
| SpamapS | vijendar: it is o-k because no call to adopt-stack will work until both API and Engine are upgraded. | 18:06 |
| vijendar | SpamapS: thanks for confirming | 18:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Unscoped List Stacks https://review.openstack.org/63041 | 18:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow an in-progress stack to be deleted https://review.openstack.org/63002 | 18:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow an in-progress stack to be deleted https://review.openstack.org/63002 | 18:27 |
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| kfox1111 | Is there an openstack standard for date/time storage? | 18:32 |
| kfox1111 | ISO 8601? | 18:33 |
| shardy | kfox1111: AFAIK, yes, that's what keystone use for all token expiry time values in their API | 18:39 |
| shardy | ISO8601 with microseconds | 18:39 |
| shardy | the storage format is dependent on the DB tho, e.g all but very recent mysql versions don't support microseconds | 18:40 |
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| jasond` | does anybody know why the neutron test for these two reviews failed? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64314/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63963/ | 19:01 |
| jasond` | pretty sure it doesn't have to do with my patch | 19:01 |
| jasond` | no obvious errors in the console log | 19:02 |
| shardy | -ENEUTRON | 19:03 |
| SpamapS | don't hate | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | it is the future | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | the feutron | 19:05 |
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| zaneb | going offline to upgrade my laptop to F19 | 19:06 |
| zaneb | If y'all never hear from me again, it didn't work | 19:06 |
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| sdake | ut oh | 19:07 |
| jasond` | is a "recheck no bug" appropriate in this case? | 19:07 |
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| SpamapS | [ERROR] /opt/stack/new/devstack/functions:378 Failure creating NET_ID for b95b218ceebe42018b2b671cd15349f2 | 19:07 |
| SpamapS | jasond`: ^^ | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | http://logs.openstack.org/14/64314/3/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron/764a662/logs/error.txt.gz | 19:08 |
| jasond` | SpamapS: ah, thanks | 19:09 |
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| shardy | q | 19:16 |
| shardy | oops | 19:16 |
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| jasond` | shardy: have you used nova's notification system? zaneb said you know something about it | 19:33 |
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| stevebaker | morning | 20:22 |
| andersonvom | morning! | 20:23 |
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| larsks | evening! | 21:03 |
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| jay-lau-513 | Can any core help approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60664/ ? It already has one +2 and two +1 | 21:22 |
| jay-lau-513 | There is also another patch doing some code cosmetic work https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64094/ which also has one+2 and 3 +1 | 21:23 |
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| zaneb | I guess it worked | 21:26 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Replace try...except...pass block with assertRaises https://review.openstack.org/64797 | 21:31 |
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