Tuesday, 2019-03-19

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openstackgerritDmitrii Kabanov proposed openstack/airship-divingbell master: Add possibility to add repository and GPG key  https://review.openstack.org/64449507:08
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sthussey@dwalt do you have the link for today's meeting agenda?14:34
dwaltsthussey: yep! https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2019-03-1914:35
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/airship-maas master: Run maas-rack and maas-region containers as non-privileged  https://review.openstack.org/63326915:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Mount ~/.ssh to allow Pegleg to clone repos  https://review.openstack.org/64444415:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack/airship-promenade master: UCP: Enable Audit Logging feature gate in K8s  https://review.openstack.org/63556815:15
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mattmceuenmeeting time in 10 min!  Agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2019-03-1915:50
mattmceuen#startmeeting airship16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 19 16:00:22 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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mattmceuen#topic Rollcall16:00
mattmceuenGM everyone!16:00
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michaelbeavero/ GM16:00
mattmceuenagenda for today: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2019-03-1916:00
levmorgano/ sup!16:00
evgenylHi!16:00
mattmceuenLet's give it a few mins for folks to join16:00
roman_go/16:01
dwalto/16:01
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mattmceuenPlease add anything you'd like to discuss today to the etherpad16:01
seaneagano/16:01
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mattmceuen#topic Multi-OS image builds16:02
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roman_g#action roman_g to move discussion to the mailing list to reach wider audience16:02
roman_gThere are controversial opinions, and we possibly need to involve RH/CentOS folks (if any)16:03
mattmceuenThanks for discussing this last week when I was out16:03
mattmceuenThe spec is now merged, so that's great.16:03
dwaltis the spec update still open? roman_g16:03
roman_gsure, it is16:03
mattmceuenRoman has also put in a PS to update the spec -- thanks for bringing it to the ML Roman, I agree that's a good idea16:03
mattmceuenAnything else we want to touch on for this topic here now?16:04
mattmceuen(otherwise we can just use the ML)16:04
jamesgu__a quick question16:04
mattmceuensure16:04
jamesgu__how long do we keep those images on quay.io, with the commit id as the tag?16:05
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roman_gforever16:05
jamesgu__I like that :-)16:05
sthusseyI believe quay.io has a 3 month TTL16:05
sthusseyif an image isn't pulled for 3 months, they remove it16:05
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mattmceuenaha16:05
mattmceuengood compromise that16:05
roman_gquay.io is owned by CoreOS, CoreOS is owned by Red Hat. As long as they sponsor quay.io - we would be there.16:05
mattmceuendoes quay impose any kind of space quota?16:06
jamesgu__yeah we literally going to double or triple if the number of images16:06
sthusseynot that I know of16:07
mattmceuencool16:07
sthusseyLooks like it is longer than 3 months16:07
sthusseyThe oldest Promenade image there is 9 months old16:07
mattmceuenmaybe someone's pulling it still?  Can you tell?16:07
mattmceuenor does "9 mo old" mean "since last pull"16:07
sthusseyNo, 9 months since tag creation16:08
sthusseyI can't imagine folks are still using it16:08
sthusseyLooks like most of the repos have the oldest tag at 9 months16:08
arunkantrelated question...how frequently images are built and published on quay.io .16:09
sthusseyOn every merge16:09
mattmceuenit's part of the merge gating16:09
arunkantOkay..so every merge of that repo or only when there is image related change?16:10
sthusseyAt this point I believe every merge. There may be some filtering for docs16:11
sthusseyI'd have to look16:11
mattmceuenhttps://github.com/openstack/airship-armada/blob/master/.zuul.yaml#L31-L3316:12
arunkantOkay..thanks..so looks like commit-id will keep changing then as we only have one version of it16:12
mattmceuenEvery merge16:12
mattmceuenOk - one more coffee sip's worth of time before moving on16:12
mattmceuen#topic 1.0 release status16:13
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mattmceuenSo it's been quiet on this front, but gears are turning16:13
mattmceuenalanmeadows was getting this out to the community, but then he had a happy addition to his family and is out for a bit16:14
mattmceuenI should clarify:  this ^ is specifically about governance (one of the subpoints in the agenda)16:14
mattmceuenWe'll hopefully have some draft governance doc material out soon which we can discuss and iterate on16:15
mattmceuenRe: 1.0 release status proper --16:15
mattmceuenThe biggest outstanding item for 1.0 is Ironic integration16:16
mattmceuenAnd there's been some pivoting around what Airship's Ironic integration will look like16:16
mattmceuenShort version -- since K8s cluster API integration with Ironic is going to happen anyway, we'd like to throw our weight behind that and help it succeed16:16
mattmceuenRather than a Drydock->Ironic native integration (which is what the spec calls for now)16:17
mattmceuenThis extends out the Ironic integration with Airship a bit, but it's definitely the right long-term direction as it will be aligned to the k8s community and the Ironic community16:17
mattmceuenSo by 1.0 we're planning to have progress and alignment on Ironic integration, but it likely won't be complete or prod ready, as it'll take time to build something reusable by Airship and others16:18
mattmceuenmy fingers are tired, any addn'l thoughts / questions?16:19
mattmceuenalright - moving on16:19
mattmceuen#topic Participation in Season of Docs16:20
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mattmceuen#action mattmceuen to look into this deeper16:20
mattmceuenThanks romang for bringing this up, I think it's potentially a really good thing (and worst case, it can't hurt to try it out)16:20
mattmceuenI saw the convo last week, let me spend some time this week digging in if you don't mind16:21
roman_gno problem. thank you16:22
mattmceuen#topic Participation in Summer of Code 202016:22
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mattmceuenI suppose this falls into the same boat huh :)16:22
roman_gyep16:22
mattmceuen#action mattmceuen to investigate Airship participation in summer of code 202016:22
roman_gat least someone accepted the meeting16:23
mattmceuen#topic AIAB is still broken (from mailing list)16:23
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roman_gyou will have to find time and discuss )16:23
mattmceuenyes!16:23
mattmceuenSo AIAB - thanks to everyone who's put in patches to get this working again16:23
roman_gDidn't try it, but gates show that it's still broken16:24
evgenylYeah, here is an example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/643430/16:24
mattmceuenAre the logs for that getting published publicly yet evgenyl?  I don't see them in that PS16:25
openstackgerritKaspars Skels proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: [bug] Fix missing sudo for setting up virtmgr SSH keys  https://review.openstack.org/64461016:25
openstackgerritKaspars Skels proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: [bug] Fix missing sudo for setting up virtmgr SSH keys  https://review.openstack.org/64461016:26
evgenylThey are being published e.g. `https://artifacts.atlantafoundry.com/artifactory/cicd/logs/integration/airship/airship-in-a-bottle/100 : FAILURE`16:26
mattmceuenwhansinn had referenced a commit that worked; is that a recent commit (meaning he may be running it differently than the gate) or is that an older commit before something got broken?16:27
mattmceuenthat's awesome - thanks evgenyl16:27
roman_gmattmceuen: that's very old commit16:27
roman_gFeb 21, 201916:28
sthusseyI mean, that isn't that old16:28
openstackgerritEvgeniy L proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: [TEST] Do not merge  https://review.openstack.org/64343016:29
roman_g>10 commits ago16:29
mattmceuenlooks like the mariadb ingress was crashlooping, but cursory look at the logs didn't show anything that was a clear smoking gun to me16:30
mattmceuenwas looking at the wrong one16:31
mattmceuenI0315 00:14:53.238599       6 controller.go:177] Configuration changes detected, backend reload required.16:31
mattmceuenE0315 00:14:53.239610       6 controller.go:189] Unexpected failure reloading the backend:16:31
mattmceuentemplate: nginx.tmpl:60:14: executing "nginx.tmpl" at <$cfg.EnableVtsStatus>: can't evaluate field EnableVtsStatus in type config.Configuration16:31
mattmceuenW0315 00:14:53.239646       6 queue.go:130] requeuing configmap-change, err template: nginx.tmpl:60:14: executing "nginx.tmpl" at <$cfg.EnableVtsStatus>: can't evaluate field EnableVtsStatus in type16:31
mattmceuenopenstack mariadb ingress ^16:31
mattmceuendumb question, why do we have an ingress for mariadb?  Shouldn't service be enough?16:32
mattmceuenWell I think we'd better take this offline and keep going16:33
roman_g¯\_(ツ)_/¯16:33
mattmceuenbut let's try to figure this out in the channel today16:33
roman_gI didn't work on that yet16:33
sthusseyI believe they need an ingress for multi-master support16:33
mattmceuenok16:34
mattmceuen#topic Who will be able to attend the Open Infra summit?16:34
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mattmceuenIf you're going to the summit, please add your name to the list in the etherpad!16:34
mattmceuen#topic  OpenStack to OpenDev transition16:35
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mattmceuenThis is an important one -- roman_g has been our rep with the openstack infra team, can you please give us an overview roman_g?16:35
roman_gTransition date is (so far) set to 4/1916:35
roman_g    Closest change to expect: massive change of git:// URLs to https:// (similar to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642652/ )16:35
roman_g#action: roman_g announce in mailing list16:35
roman_gNeed to discuss & decide whether we move openstack/airship-* to airship/airship-* or openstack/airship-* to airship/*16:36
mattmceuenMy understanding is that there will also be redirects between the old URLs and the new ones, to prevent a breaking interruption16:36
evgenylWill this be an alias or they are planning to remove the old one? :)16:36
roman_gHTTP/HTTPS redirects would be supported fr reasonable future, of course16:37
sthusseyit seems we should transition public references to git.airshipit.org16:37
roman_gOld tenant and repo will be removed16:37
roman_gsthussey: that is an option16:37
mattmceuenAgree sthussey16:37
roman_gbut it's not only git repo, but also e.g. zuul tenant, gerrit, and may be something else16:38
sthusseygit.airshipit.org points at gerrit I believe16:38
roman_ggit.airshipit.org would stay as-is (UI will change to Gitea)16:38
sthusseyI guess not16:39
roman_gyes, it points at Gerrit. And will point at Gitea in the future16:39
mattmceuenthe `airship` namespace will be a really good thing.  When we were added to the `openstack` namespace we used `airship-` prefixes to be a poor-man's namespacing, so like roman_g says we'll need to figure out whether to retain `airship` in our project names, or not.16:39
mattmceuenplease mull it over and anticipate roman's email :)16:39
roman_gFinally. Who makes this decision?16:39
mattmceuenback to governance!  ha16:40
sthusseyas part of all this work, should consider if we move image hosting away from quay.io and into whatever OSF uses16:40
roman_gOSF -> ODF16:40
sthusseywhatever16:40
roman_gDo they use any? I haven't seen anything like that.16:40
mattmceuennot sure16:41
mattmceuenI don't think there's one yet16:41
mattmceuenNot sure if any are planned though16:41
sthusseyIt seems like it will be the artifact publication mechanism of the future16:41
roman_gWho makes the decision? :) Otherwise I'll make life easy, and would select ``openstack/airship-* to airship/airship-*`` option16:42
sthusseySo even if they aren't hosting a private registry, it may be worth exploring alignment with anyone else producing OCI images16:42
mattmceuenAgree.  I guess the cost/benefit of ODF hosting its own registry is something that needs to be explored.16:42
sthusseyI'd prefer dropping duplicate namespaces16:42
sthusseySo if they are going to namespace it under an `airship` umbrella, then drop the `airship-` prefix16:43
mattmceuenTo answer your question roman_g - I think the core team should vote on it after getting all input16:44
roman_gsthussey and Rodolfo are for dropping the prefix, I'm for leaving the prefix. Other votes? Is it legitimate to decide here? Should I move discussion to the ML?16:44
mattmceuenHoping there will be consensus across the team after arguments are heard; if not we can split hairs about how to determine16:44
mattmceuenlet's let it marinate on the ML first16:44
mattmceuenand let's share our rationales on the ML as well16:45
sthusseyI think it is worth putting spec-like in the ML with the full picture16:45
roman_gOK. I have an action item on this already16:45
mattmceuenI don't have a strong opinion either way... yet16:45
mattmceuenthanks16:45
mattmceuenanything else before we move on guys?16:45
roman_gno16:45
mattmceuen#topic Airship approach to various OpenStack efforts that really bring no value - e.g. Python 2 to 3 effort16:45
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mattmceuenTake it away sthussey16:45
sthusseyI think the description explains it mostly16:46
sthusseybut there have been several expeditions of instituting a formulaic code change across all of OpenStack16:46
sthusseyThe most recent was moving from using the general `json` library to some oslo variant of it16:46
mattmceuenFor cross-project openstack initiatives -- I think this is where the delineation of "openstack proper" vs "open infra" / "open dev" will be helpful16:46
sthusseyIn some cases, I think it is silly and a waste of time, but it isn't my time so I ignore it16:47
sthusseyIn this case, it is actually detrimental because it introduces additional nodes the in dependency graph16:47
roman_gHave we been approached to do some work on this kind of changes? Or are we expected to comply?16:48
sthusseySomeone else has opened the PS to do the work16:48
mattmceuenIn general I think openstack cross-project initiatives are limited to "openstack proper"16:48
mattmceuenand can become "airship" cross-project initiatives too with the right discussion / rationale behind them16:48
mattmceuenbut today, all the projects are in the same namespace so the discussion was missed16:49
sthusseyI've resisted a hard line on this as it seems it should be a general approach agreeded upon across the airship community16:49
mattmceuenmy thought is, "all else equal" I'm happy to adhere to openstack norms and initiatives, since we're one larger community16:50
roman_gcan I have a link to that PS?16:50
mattmceuenHowever, "all else equal" is key, and there needs to be discussion16:50
sthussey@roman_g look for jacky06 as the owner16:50
roman_gthanks16:50
roman_gAre we expected to comply?16:50
roman_gBy rules.16:50
sthusseyI don't know.16:50
roman_gmattmceuen?16:51
mattmceuenProbably depends who you ask roman_g, but the answer is "no" formally16:51
mattmceuenSome openstack cross-project things could be really valuable to us - like internationalization16:51
mattmceuenand some are probably arguable value, and need to be discussed16:51
mattmceuenLet's bring them up on a case by case basis here or in the ML16:51
sthusseyI think it is better to come up with a general viewpoint on it16:52
roman_gagain, governance question?16:52
sthusseyAnd I'm fine with "If the work standing on its own is valuable, then treat it as such"16:52
mattmceuen^ that16:52
sthusseyBut not so much "This webpage so everyone should do X, so do X"16:53
sthusseywebpage says*16:53
mattmceuenThere should be no assumption that an openstack cross-project item impacts airship, since many of the items will be irrelevant to airship (e.g. release-schedule related things)16:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: [bug] Fix missing sudo for setting up virtmgr SSH keys  https://review.openstack.org/64461016:54
mattmceuenbut I for one am certainly open to adoption openstack initiatives when they do stand on their own  merit for airship16:54
sthusseygood enough16:54
* sthussey steps off his soapbox16:54
mattmceuenI don't think we actually came to consensus on the json thing; let's take a look @ that offline and weigh in on the PS?16:55
mattmceuenthanks for bringing this up sthussey :)16:55
roman_gthanks.16:55
mattmceuen#topic External gates for AIAB are enabled (archived logs are being published)16:55
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mattmceuenWe touched on this already! nice!16:55
roman_gI also have idea to change YAML library to the one which persists comments in YAML's and order of keys16:55
roman_gat least for versions.conf utility16:56
roman_g* versions.yaml16:56
mattmceuenSorry roman_g, I missing it - is that related to the AIAB publishing?16:57
roman_gno, that16:57
roman_g's for previous topic16:57
roman_gjson library change request16:57
mattmceuenahh I see16:57
evgenylSo currently AIAB gates are failing, people should be able to see the logs in the comments.16:57
mattmceuenI'm not following the discussion between roman_g and evgenyl on the etherpad 100%; where did we land?16:58
dwaltevgenyl: The comments keep disappearing for me. Do you know if there is a Gerrit preference to show them?16:58
roman_gevgenyl: thank you!16:58
roman_gdwalt: probably Toggle CI button, lower left corner.16:59
mattmceuenyup that works for me16:59
dwaltperfect. Thanks!16:59
mattmceuenIs this a step toward becoming a third-party gate?  Or is this "instead of" a third party gate?17:00
roman_gmattmceuen: we have logs published, but they need to be unarchived. I've pushed a PS for that17:00
evgenylI completely forgot about this button, and assumed everybody could see these comments..17:00
mattmceuenahh thanks roman_g17:00
mattmceuend'oh we're out of time folks17:00
mattmceuenA couple of patches requesting review:17:01
mattmceuen    https://review.openstack.org/#/c/635507/ - openstack/airship-treasuremap - Add cache for results of requests to quay.io in Updater tool17:01
mattmceuen    https://review.openstack.org/#/c/638144/ - openstack/airship-divingbell - Enhance docs rendering; update documentation17:01
mattmceuenThanks very much to you all for your time and effort today, and on Airship in general17:01
mattmceuenhave a good one17:01
mattmceuen#endmeeting17:01
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kaspars__hey there Airship folks, my test if I setup IRC correctly - feel free to have a friendly reply.17:40
roman_gkaspars__: nice to meet you here17:41
mattmceuenkaspars__ howdy!17:41
evgenylkaspars__: hey :)17:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/airship-divingbell master: Update helm-toolkit pin  https://review.openstack.org/64305718:29
mattmceuenhey dwalt, for jamesgu's PS here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636240/18:34
mattmceuenWhat's the driver for making the document name end in "-global"?18:34
mattmceuenI understand the label ending in "-global"18:35
mattmceuenbut for the document name seems like just leaving the document name itself agnostic to the layer lends itself better to overriding and inheritance18:35
dwaltI think what jamesgu has there is in-line with the existing standards18:36
dwaltI don't think we want the document name to end in global, right?18:36
mattmceuenI think that's what your story says, right?  https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200435418:37
dwaltwoops, that sent out of order18:37
jamesguwe don't have -global suffix in the document name, just the label.18:37
dwaltAh, I didn't realize you were looking at the story item. I didn't intend to suggest he should do it like that, just that we should decide on the standard here18:37
mattmceuenah I see18:38
dwaltFor example, we don't use component labels for everything18:38
dwaltshould we just remove them where they are used?18:38
mattmceuenwhat's an example of a component label that we might remove?18:38
dwaltThere's a few in the patch. For example, memcached: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636240/9/global/software/charts/osh/openstack-memcached/memcached.yaml18:39
dwaltHere is one that is merged: https://github.com/openstack/airship-treasuremap/blob/bdfcc8af409d0cbfd5a4e4bccfddf4f9bfdb06c3/global/software/charts/ucp/keystone/keystone.yaml18:40
mattmceuenIsn't the point of jamegu's patch to add those in though?  Is there any harm in putting the hooks in?18:40
mattmceuenI.e., why would we want to remove them18:41
dwaltNo harm AFAIK. It would just be for consistency. We haven't talked about this in a while, so maybe it's not as much of a concern as when we were authoring the airskiff site18:42
openstackgerritMerged openstack/airship-divingbell master: Enhance docs rendering; update documentation  https://review.openstack.org/63814418:42
dwaltEither way, it doesn't have to happen in this patch. I was just hoping to re-surface the discussion is jamesgu was willing to address it in his patch18:43
mattmceuenHow bout I add this to next week's meeting agenda (if we can remember the details for one whole week)18:43
mattmceuenYes, agree and it's successfully re-surfaced :D  I missed your story from before18:44
jamesguI think I've seen many charts have both name and component labels and some only have name label, and the rest doesn't have any in the global.18:44
dwaltSounds like a plan!18:44
mattmceuenYeah, that bugs me too jamesgu18:44
mattmceuenIf we were driving for consistency, I'd lean more toward including the labels everywhere18:44
jamesguI agree with that18:44
dwaltAgree. I don't mind if it's present or not, just that it's consistent across all documents18:45
mattmceuenCool - I'll give you a +2 for now, and we can get more opinions next week18:45
mattmceuenyup18:45
dwalt++18:45
jamesguthanks mattmceuen and dwalt18:45
evgenylA quick question about summit PTGs, I've checked the schedule, and I'm wondering when the sessions are going to end on Saturday? Trying to figure out what tickets to get :)18:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/airship-pegleg master: pki: Add pki_utility unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/64062018:47
mattmceuenI like jamesgu :)  one small nit in the PS18:50
mattmceuen*lied18:50
mattmceuenevgenyl afaik sessions will formally end "end of day" (like 5pm), however I expect many folks to be cutting out a bit early to make flights18:51
mattmceuenand discussion always winds down a bit on the last day anyway18:51
openstackgerritAnthony Bellino proposed openstack/airship-divingbell master: [WIP] Initial Ansible Daemonset  https://review.openstack.org/64053918:51
openstackgerritJames Gu proposed openstack/airship-treasuremap master: Add missing labels to osh charts and ucp chart groups  https://review.openstack.org/63624018:53
openstackgerritEvgeniy L proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Downgrade ingress controller for MariaDB  https://review.openstack.org/64463418:54
evgenylmattmceuen: thanks!18:55
jamesgumattmceuen: ugh... I should feel shamed :-) ... pushed up a new PS to fix that... didn't mean to introduce another convention :-)18:55
mattmceuenlol, those double dashes are gonna be catching on like wildfire jamesgu!18:55
mattmceuenall the rage18:55
evgenylHere is a patch for AIAB that I hope would solve the problem with a failing gate https://review.openstack.org/#/c/644634/ early reviews are welcome!18:55
mattmceuenthat's awesome - ty evgenyl18:56
openstackgerritLev Morgan proposed openstack/airship-pegleg master: Added document wrapping command  https://review.openstack.org/64463719:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/airship-divingbell master: (perm) Fix CL for reverting missing file  https://review.openstack.org/64205119:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/airship-drydock master: Disable tgtd service on maas-rack-controller  https://review.openstack.org/64366019:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/airship-treasuremap master: Uplift HAProxy to address CVEs  https://review.openstack.org/64424519:43
evgenylI'm wondering if there are any deckhand experts, I'm trying to understand this paragraph from the docs https://airship-deckhand.readthedocs.io/en/latest/users/replacement.html#layering-without-replacement isn't a replacement of a single key can be done with just layering & merge strategy?19:46
sthussey@evgenyl I do believe the docs have a poor illustration of `replace`19:48
evgenylsthussey: So do I understand it correctly, that the main use-case of `replace` is to replace an entire doc from the layer below?19:51
sthusseyhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/tCZ6wfiq/19:53
sthusseyI think the above is a bit better illustration19:53
sthusseyit is where you want to snip out a branch of YAML and replace the entire branch19:54
sthusseyrather than merging them19:54
sthusseyfor simple values like `debug: true`, a standard merge cares for it19:54
evgenylsthussey: Ok, got it, thank you!19:54
sthusseyif you just want to snip out the branch w/o replacing it you can use `method: delet`19:55
sthusseydelete*19:55
openstackgerritKaspars Skels proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Minor fixes as follow-up for new Pegleg  https://review.openstack.org/64466420:08
kaspars__ha! IRC is tracking everything I do :)20:09
evgenylYep, we see everything :)20:19
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openstackgerritLev Morgan proposed openstack/airship-pegleg master: Added document wrapping command  https://review.openstack.org/64463720:42
openstackgerritScott Hussey proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: (multinode) Make disk layout flexible  https://review.openstack.org/63804021:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/airship-treasuremap master: Add missing labels to osh charts and ucp chart groups  https://review.openstack.org/63624022:24
openstackgerritHemanth Nakkina proposed openstack/airship-in-a-bottle master: Add proxy support for demo environment  https://review.openstack.org/61538722:29
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