Friday, 2022-09-02

@jim:acmegating.comianw: thanks!  i reviewed the early ones, i'll take a closer look at the later ones tomorrow00:03
@iwienand:matrix.orgno rush, thanks00:11
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Ian Wienand proposed:00:24
- [zuul/zuul] 855297: web: console: compress datalist https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/855297
- [zuul/zuul] 855574: web: task summary: make more consistent with other tabs https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/855574
- [zuul/zuul] 855575: web: console: better task modal titles https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/855575
- [zuul/zuul] 855578: web: build/autohold: fix props input https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/855578
@iwienand:matrix.orgthat fixes padding around the expandable content with an !important.  i'm going to put localhost:3000 away now, I have to stop fiddling with it :)00:25
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Ian Wienand proposed: [zuul/zuul] 853208: zuul-stream : Test against a Python 2.7 container https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/85320803:58
@jim:acmegating.comzuul-maint: next steps for ansible:15:56
* deprecate ansible 2, make ansible 5 the default
* add ansible 6
* remove ansible 2
* deprecate ansible 5, make ansible 6 the default
* remove ansible 5
@jim:acmegating.comzuul-maint: which of those should be major releases?15:56
@tobias.henkel:matrix.orgAll but the second maybe?15:58
@jim:acmegating.comi was thinking maybe just the "remove" steps16:01
@jim:acmegating.com(fwiw, previously we have never done a major version for any kind of ansible version change, even a removal; the closest was that we added ansible 5 with zuul 6, but that was only because we relaxed the executor restrictions)16:02
@jim:acmegating.com(so there's not a lot of precedent to go on here)16:02
@jim:acmegating.comif we do want to do major versions for all but the second, then i can cut 7.0 today/this weekend, then 8.0 next week...  maybe we can combine "remove ansible2" and "deprecate ansible5, make ansible 6 the default" into one step.16:05
@jim:acmegating.comhttps://etherpad.opendev.org/p/qF7VE9HzqPVzsCyZLWxb16:09
@clarkb:matrix.orgya I think switching defaults can probably be done without a major release16:10
@clarkb:matrix.orgbut removing ansible versions people may be depending on should be signaled with a major release16:11
@jim:acmegating.comokay, i sketched those two ideas out on the etherpad16:11
@clarkb:matrix.orgwe should also skim for other things that can/should be removed at the same time. The merge-conflict/merge-failure compat can be cleaned up for example (I forget which is canonical now)16:11
@jim:acmegating.comClark: yeah, that's proposed in 854046 and is ready to go into the next major release16:12
@jim:acmegating.comi think we still need to do the queue removal16:12
@clarkb:matrix.orgoh yup. I know openstack hasn't full removed that yet, but I send emails about it and even pushed a few chagnes to some projects. So I think opendev is as ready as we can be (openstack tenant was the only one with that issue)16:13
@jim:acmegating.comi'1ll work on that change now16:14
@jim:acmegating.comzomg i just found a zuulv1 layout in the test fixtures :)16:26
@jim:acmegating.comi stared at it for like 30 seconds not understanding it haha16:26
@clarkb:matrix.orgcorvus: question on https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/854046 about a couple other places that might need cleanup16:27
@jim:acmegating.comClark: replied -- those can stay16:33
-@gerrit:opendev.org- James E. Blair https://matrix.to/#/@jim:acmegating.com proposed: [zuul/zuul] 855691: Remove deprecated pipeline queue configuration https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/85569117:03
@jim:acmegating.comtobiash: what do you think of option 2 on the etherpad?  is it okay to do major releases just for the removals?17:05
@tobias.henkel:matrix.orgWorks for me17:06
@jim:acmegating.comzuul-maint: how does this look for a zuul release?  commit 64fa9db5799d33838267183f5c6734d4ba5ee7c9 (HEAD -> master, tag: 6.3.0, origin/master, gerrit/master)17:09
-@gerrit:opendev.org- James E. Blair https://matrix.to/#/@jim:acmegating.com proposed:17:14
- [zuul/zuul] 854009: Fix Ansible version testing https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/854009
- [zuul/zuul] 853548: Deprecate Ansible 2, make Ansible 5 default https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/853548
- [zuul/zuul] 853552: Add Ansible 6 https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/853552
- [zuul/zuul] 854046: Remove merge-failure pipeline configuration https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/854046
- [zuul/zuul] 855691: Remove deprecated pipeline queue configuration https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/855691
@clarkb:matrix.orgcorvus: that appears to be about 7 commits ahead of opendev17:18
@clarkb:matrix.orgAre you thinking of tagging that next week after the opendev restarts or just going for it now or?17:18
@jim:acmegating.comClark: yeah, maybe monday for that?17:22
@jim:acmegating.commaybe we can do each release in the etherpad every week17:25
@clarkb:matrix.orgwfm17:29
@fungicide:matrix.orgi like option #2 in the pad18:23
@fungicide:matrix.orgi agree that deprecation, addition, or default changes can be minor releases. removing support for ansible versions seems more in line with a major release18:24
@iwienand:matrix.orgcorvus: minor but could we get https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/851942 in to 6.3 ; the doc update to the streaming bits; would be good to keep it together.  https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/853208 is related but not particularly important for any release, to test with a 2.7 container.  i've also added a follow-on there to disable writing out streaming spool files with https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul/+/85530921:55

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