| * fungi is going to have to get used to pf meaning something other than packet filter | 00:01 | |
| fungi | (or picofarad, or i suppose polynésie française) | 00:03 |
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| corvus | fungi: well, good luck with that! | 00:03 |
| fungi | i'll add it to my daily affirmations | 00:03 |
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| clarkb | this message brought to you by pf | 00:16 |
| fungi | brought to you by a generous grant from pfister faucets, and viewers like you | 00:20 |
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| zbr | regarding wrapping console logs I asked on https://www.reddit.com/r/userexperience/comments/hbcz7v/should_console_output_or_logs_wrap_when_displayed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf but i was hopping to get a bigger number of votes. | 07:00 |
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| avass | corvus: oh, I wonder if that's on purpose since using htpasswd that way is still part of the documentation: https://docs.docker.com/registry/deploying/#native-basic-auth | 09:54 |
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| avass | zbr: looked at your video about the text wrapping. what browser are you using because I do not get that problem and the text is contained in it's own element with vertical scroll | 10:45 |
| avass | this could be a browser problem rather than a UX problem | 10:48 |
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| zbr | firefox | 10:56 |
| zbr | the rendering may differ between browsers but wrapping / not-wrapping is always an issue: we should not be needed to ho horizontal scrolling at all | 10:57 |
| avass | same | 10:57 |
| avass | yeah, but it looks a lot different, the text bleeds outside the element for you | 10:58 |
| zbr | rdo zuul is bit older and behaviour on opendev one is bit different, still the lack of wrapping is still an issue. | 10:58 |
| avass | so you shouldn't be have vertical scrolling on the entire page, just that element | 10:59 |
| avass | I checked rdo as well, it doesn't look like that for me | 10:59 |
| zbr | on https://review.rdoproject.org/zuul/build/53ff5127607d41f38d82d6954e599f99 - the scrolling happens inside the frame, not on the entire page | 11:00 |
| avass | so what that video shows is absolutely horrible, but I don't think it should look like that at all | 11:00 |
| zbr | but is still an UX disaster because it breaks scrolling if you use a tablet | 11:01 |
| zbr | the only people unlikely to be affect are the mouse users | 11:01 |
| avass | nah, I mostly use my laptop with a trackpad and I don't have any problems with it at all | 11:01 |
| zbr | but with gestures, is sucks as you are never able to do a perfect vertical scroll, w/o any bit of horizontal scroll | 11:02 |
| zbr | from me the problem is the presence of the horizontal scroll by itself. this is the "evil" bit from my point of view. | 11:03 |
| avass | well, I don't know if it's my laptop, os or firefox but I can only do either horizontal or vertical scrolling, not both at the same time :) | 11:04 |
| zbr | i am on macos, but I can confirm that the experience does not vary much between chrome/firefox/safari, sucks on all. | 11:05 |
| zbr | i didn't even bother to mention the browsing experience on mobile devices so far.... | 11:07 |
| avass | I don't see why someone would visit the dashboard on mobile devices | 11:07 |
| zbr | because is unusable, not because nobody ever visited it. | 11:07 |
| zbr | i tried few times after receiving build error, and I was away from a big-screen. | 11:08 |
| zbr | decided not to try it again | 11:08 |
| zbr | i need to go out now. still based on the low number of votes I doubt I can push a change. | 11:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed zuul/nodepool master: Add ensure-virtualenv to nodepool-functional-openstack https://review.opendev.org/737130 | 13:18 |
| fungi | maybe part of why the scrolling doesn't bother me is that i use a keyboard | 13:20 |
| avass | I use a trackpad and it has never bothered me | 13:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Guillaume Chauvel proposed zuul/zuul master: Add 'uuid' to 'src_dir' in order to allow parallel jobs for a static node https://review.opendev.org/735981 | 14:17 |
| mordred | yeah - I'm now using a trackpad - with gesture scrolling, and it's not bothering me | 14:34 |
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| mnaser | uhoh | 15:56 |
| mnaser | ensure-chart-testing role is now failing for us: "Failed to import the required Python library (setuptools) on ubuntu-bionic-ovh-gra1-0017272777's Python /usr/bin/python3. Please read module documentation and install in the appropriate location. If the required library is installed, but Ansible is using the wrong Python interpreter, please consult the documentation on ansible_python_interpreter" | 15:56 |
| mnaser | is there a change we should have done/missed in zuul-jobs ? | 15:57 |
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| avass | mnaser: not that I can think of. there were problems with setuptools/wheel but I believe that was part of changes in the images opendev uses | 16:06 |
| avass | but I'm not sure | 16:06 |
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| mnaser | avass: oh maybe this is fallout from opendev, i will ask then | 16:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: ensure-chart-testing: install pip https://review.opendev.org/737143 | 16:31 |
| fungi | well, it's a bug/incompleteness in the job, exposed by running in opendev where (as of recently) pip is not baked into the node images | 16:33 |
| fungi | in short, to use the pip module in ansible, it needs setuptools/pkg_resources (at least) present on the remote system | 16:35 |
| fungi | probably pip itself too | 16:35 |
| fungi | the ensure-pip role will make sure those are all in place | 16:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed zuul/nodepool master: Improve max-servers handling for GCE https://review.opendev.org/737146 | 16:56 |
| zbr | is there any policy on openstack around use of emoji in commit messages or code? -- references to other big project policies could help too. | 16:57 |
| avass | well, I can't grep after an emoji | 16:58 |
| corvus | zbr: an #openstack channel would be a better place for that | 16:58 |
| corvus | i'd reccomend -infra -dev or -tc | 16:59 |
| avass | so I would avoid emojis as part of the repository :) | 16:59 |
| zbr | well, in theory you could grep, but my first attempt failed. | 16:59 |
| avass | well yes, but it's very annoying | 16:59 |
| zbr | i would avoid them anywhere in code or commit message, but i am asking for reference. | 16:59 |
| zbr | i think that gerrit does not allow them, so we are lucky here. | 16:59 |
| zbr | i seen use of them on few projects (not opendev related) and doing a "git log" starts the disco lights... | 17:00 |
| zbr | our official guidelines from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages do not mention anything around that subject, unicode or even use of english. | 17:01 |
| corvus | zbr: sorry if you missed it, but this is the #zuul channel; a channel like #openstack-infra, #openstack-dev, or #openstack-tc would be more appropriate for conversation about openstack policies. | 17:02 |
| zbr | ok. | 17:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Guillaume Chauvel proposed zuul/zuul master: Add 'uuid' to 'src_dir' in order to allow parallel jobs for a static node https://review.opendev.org/735981 | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Guillaume Chauvel proposed zuul/zuul master: Add 'uuid' to 'src_dir' in order to allow parallel jobs for a static node https://review.opendev.org/735981 | 18:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fabien Boucher proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: Propose submit-logstash role to export logs https://review.opendev.org/649426 | 20:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed zuul/nodepool master: Improve max-servers handling for GCE https://review.opendev.org/737146 | 20:57 |
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