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hacklint | Hi folks, first time here... I'm looking for more info/examples on using shared queues (multiple-repo changes) in Zuul 2.6 (if that is significantly different from current 3.x) (About 2.6 - don't ask... ;-) | 08:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed zuul/zuul master: Spec: Add a Kubernetes Operator for Zuul https://review.opendev.org/659180 | 11:40 |
mordred | hi hacklint! at this point I've forgotten most of the things about 2.6 so I'm unlikely to be much help ... in general though, in 2.x they are implied by shared job name. | 11:42 |
openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed zuul/nodepool master: Implement an Azure driver https://review.opendev.org/554432 | 11:44 |
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mordred | tobiash: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668172 is a small patch that might (or might not) be interesting to you since you're running in openshift | 12:10 |
mordred | mugsie: \o/ | 12:14 |
mugsie | mordred: yeah, finally got some time :) | 12:14 |
* mugsie really misses the openstack SDK though | 12:15 | |
openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed zuul/zuul master: Spec: Add a Kubernetes Operator for Zuul https://review.opendev.org/659180 | 12:16 |
mordred | mugsie: I'd offer to port it ... | 12:16 |
mugsie | I already had a conversation with our internal SDK team, and pointed out the OpenStack one :) | 12:17 |
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mordred | \o/ | 12:20 |
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tobiash | mordred: thanks for the hint, we're not using the container driver yet, but when we will this will be interesting | 13:46 |
tobiash | I'll review it later today | 13:47 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed zuul/nodepool master: Update documentation for k8s in-cluster config https://review.opendev.org/668679 | 13:51 |
corvus | flaper87, mordred, tobiash: ^ | 13:52 |
* flaper87 clicks | 13:55 | |
flaper87 | corvus: +1 | 13:56 |
flaper87 | thanks :) | 13:56 |
tobiash | lgtm | 13:58 |
tobiash | once the doc has review (mordred?) I guess we can +3 it | 13:59 |
mordred | I have +3d the doc patch | 13:59 |
corvus | flaper87: re your test question -- yeah, i don't think we have an effective way to test this; the unit tests mock out _get_client so that no real k8s is needed. the functional tests *do* run with a real k8s, but not with nodepol in-cluster -- nodepool is on the vm. we could maybe add a test where we created a fake service account file on the nodepool cluster (by reading the kube/admin file, modifying it | 14:01 |
corvus | appropriately, saving it as a fake service account file, and deleting it), but i'm not sure it's worth it. at least our functional test tells us we haven't broken the kube/admin code path. | 14:01 |
mordred | corvus, flaper87: perhaps as we get the zuul operator dev going and are testing running all the things in a k8s we'll be able to more effectively test this code path | 14:02 |
flaper87 | mordred: corvus: ah, thanks for clarifying! | 14:02 |
corvus | mordred: yeah, we might decide this should be the default config for that case... | 14:02 |
flaper87 | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668172/ is missing +A | 14:03 |
mordred | yah | 14:03 |
flaper87 | corvus: I think this is a sane default :D | 14:03 |
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sshnaidm|ruck | is there option in zuul to set custom time trigger for the periodic job in the job itself? For example use case: I have a bunch of jobs that should be executed in various times and various periods, I don't want to create a different periodic pipeline for each one. | 14:18 |
sshnaidm|ruck | I'm talking not about openstack zuul, in general | 14:18 |
openstackgerrit | Merged zuul/nodepool master: Allow nodepool for using in-cluster configs https://review.opendev.org/668172 | 14:32 |
pabelanger | Did anybody submit anything to OpenInfra summit for zuul? Or want to, but forget? CFP closes soon | 14:38 |
pabelanger | sshnaidm|ruck: you need a new pipeline for each | 14:38 |
sshnaidm|ruck | pabelanger, I see.. I wanted use CI as a scheduler. | 14:39 |
sshnaidm|ruck | but seems it's impossible with zuul, creating a pipeline for each job is huge overhead | 14:40 |
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clarkb | worth noting that even if you run on a periodic cron that the jobs will execute some time after that trigger | 14:54 |
clarkb | so even if you could do what you wanted it wouldn't stick those jobs to specific time frames. Just closer to them | 14:54 |
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corvus | sshnaidm|ruck: to do what you want, we'd need job-specific project-pipeline configuration, which is something we can explore, but it would take a bit of design (might need a spec to discuss how it would apply to the different kinds of drivers -- think email addresses for smtp reporters, irc channels, etc) | 15:09 |
sshnaidm|ruck | corvus, ack, I think it would be useful, it has some use cases | 15:13 |
sshnaidm|ruck | I can't abort job from the job itself, right? | 15:16 |
openstackgerrit | Jeff Liu proposed zuul/zuul-operator master: Add playbooks folder and zuul job that installs k8s https://review.opendev.org/668029 | 15:17 |
corvus | sshnaidm|ruck: no; nothing outside of just failing an ansible task for that. but depending on what you're trying to accomplish, https://zuul-ci.org/docs/zuul/user/jobs.html#var-zuul.child_jobs might help (a job can control which jobs which depend on it will run) | 15:19 |
corvus | sshnaidm|ruck: https://zuul-ci.org/docs/zuul/user/jobs.html#skipping-child-jobs is a better link | 15:19 |
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corvus | sshnaidm|ruck: note that the parent job can be a zero-node job that runs on the executor, so it can quickly make decisions about whether "real" jobs on "real" nodes run. | 15:20 |
sshnaidm|ruck | corvus, nice.. so I can do a job that runs once in hour, and decides which child jobs it's time to run now.. something like that? | 15:21 |
corvus | sshnaidm|ruck: yep | 15:21 |
sshnaidm|ruck | corvus, cool, thanks, will check this | 15:22 |
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corvus | sshnaidm|ruck: this also may be useful: https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/user_guide/playbooks_templating.html#get-the-current-time | 15:22 |
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sshnaidm|ruck | yeah.. but then I need to implement my own cron.. if I want to configure cron-like trigger in the job vars | 15:25 |
sshnaidm|ruck | seems like it will work for specific times only | 15:26 |
sshnaidm|ruck | not like "every 15 minutes" | 15:26 |
clarkb | the cron lib that zuul runs supports those time specifications | 15:27 |
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openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: Move project config in-repo https://review.opendev.org/668698 | 15:31 |
SpamapS | sshnaidm|ruck: Out of pure curiosity, what are you wanting to run on this schedule? | 15:31 |
SpamapS | I only ask because I have found that nobody cares about periodic jobs once there are gate tests... they tend to just generate reports that slowly get forgotten. | 15:31 |
sshnaidm|ruck | SpamapS, various CI related tasks, not actually jobs that test code. I thought why I need to look for scheduler system, if I have a CI actually | 15:32 |
SpamapS | The one exception is security checks where the world might change before your code does. | 15:32 |
sshnaidm|ruck | SpamapS, well, if it was good interface where periodic jobs would be tracked, maybe somebody would look at them | 15:33 |
SpamapS | sshnaidm|ruck: I dunno, I'd think people would ask. They don't. :-P | 15:37 |
openstackgerrit | Merged zuul/nodepool master: Update documentation for k8s in-cluster config https://review.opendev.org/668679 | 15:37 |
SpamapS | Not saying it's a rule, or a good thing, but in the 3 zuul's I've helped build and run, nobody has cared a single bit for the periodic jobs. If you count OpenStack, that's 4, and I rarely see people reaching for the periodic reports. | 15:37 |
sshnaidm|ruck | SpamapS, well, I have my own systems to track zuul jobs, but if I haven't - I'd forget about them | 15:38 |
SpamapS | what do you mean by track? | 15:38 |
SpamapS | Because, the zuul database reporter is pretty good for that. | 15:39 |
sshnaidm|ruck | SpamapS, to see in one place, to get alerts | 15:39 |
SpamapS | Could you be more clear what alerts you're looking for? (also, I really don't mean to interrogate, I just want to understand so I can fill any holes in my own CI/CD system) | 15:40 |
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sshnaidm|ruck | SpamapS, well, if job starts to fail, I'd like to see it when I look at my ci dashboard | 15:41 |
sshnaidm|ruck | and to ping people to fix it, if I can't | 15:41 |
pabelanger | I'm currently in the process of caring less about periodic jobs, and more about pre-merge testing jobs. So far, the cost of periodic jobs now is pretty minimal, a few hours each night. But humans are paying attention more to PR failures now :) | 15:44 |
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corvus | tobiash, mordred: https://review.opendev.org/667156 is ready for +3 | 16:23 |
corvus | as is its child | 16:23 |
tobiash | yay | 16:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged zuul/nodepool master: Remove devstack plugin functional test jobs https://review.opendev.org/667156 | 16:52 |
openstackgerrit | Merged zuul/nodepool master: Reparent nodepool-functional-openstack-src https://review.opendev.org/667995 | 17:01 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: Move in-repo test jobs into zuul-tests.d https://review.opendev.org/668716 | 17:01 |
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dmsimard | sshnaidm|ruck: fwiw visibility on the periodic pipeline has gotten better with the new interface, i.e http://zuul.openstack.org/builds?pipeline=periodic | 17:03 |
dmsimard | Prior to that, yes, periodic things had very little visibility outside of openstack-health | 17:03 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: Move in-repo test jobs into zuul-tests.d https://review.opendev.org/668716 | 17:04 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: Add zuul-jobs-tox-linters https://review.opendev.org/668052 | 17:07 |
sshnaidm|ruck | dmsimard, yes, but there are all jobs from all projects, not sure if I can even use regex or wildcards with job names | 17:11 |
sshnaidm|ruck | dmsimard, I think it should be an interest for running periodic jobs, if there is no such and they run just "let it be, won't hurt" - of course nobody cares, and they shouldn't run at all | 17:13 |
pabelanger | sshnaidm|ruck: no regex, but something I also raised on ML a few weeks ago: http://lists.zuul-ci.org/pipermail/zuul-discuss/2019-June/000961.html | 17:13 |
pabelanger | would be nice to have | 17:13 |
sshnaidm|ruck | but I assume everybody that run them knows why he does it and is interested | 17:13 |
pabelanger | given mhu responded, I can only assume he is vigorously working on patches :D | 17:14 |
sshnaidm|ruck | pabelanger, yeah, it's sad we don't have paging, I need to add "&skip=50" and increase it manually :) | 17:15 |
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sshnaidm|ruck | having a link that does it seems much improving the UX | 17:15 |
sshnaidm|ruck | SpamapS, dmsimard I run them mostly to know if some job is broken, with patch jobs it's difficult to say - maybe it's breaking patches fault, with no-change job it's much more clear | 17:17 |
sshnaidm|ruck | or to know about CI infra problems :D | 17:17 |
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clarkb | sshnaidm|afk: in theory you can use the gate pipeline results to filter that stuff out | 17:49 |
clarkb | beacuse those have passed check (at least with openstack's clean check requirement) and been judged by a human to be good | 17:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged zuul/zuul-jobs master: Move project config in-repo https://review.opendev.org/668698 | 17:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged zuul/zuul-jobs master: Move in-repo test jobs into zuul-tests.d https://review.opendev.org/668716 | 18:03 |
openstackgerrit | Merged zuul/zuul master: Filter out unprotected branches from builds if excluded https://review.opendev.org/666664 | 18:05 |
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sshnaidm|afk | clarkb, yeah, but not all jobs in gate sometimes, and better to know they fail yet before it fails in gate, especially if it's not so much merging project | 18:15 |
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pabelanger | Humble brag: We did 336 periodic jobs last week on zuul.a.c for network integration jobs (devel and stable-2.8 on ansible) with 100% success rate. First time that has happened since running them 6 weeks ago | 18:56 |
clarkb | pabelanger: next achievement: no gate failures | 18:56 |
pabelanger | that is using network vendor appliances too (multi-node 1 controller, 1 appliance) | 18:56 |
pabelanger | clarkb: Yup, we are now seeing random failures when we do 3pci testing against ansible/ansible PRs, about 5% right now | 18:57 |
pabelanger | With ansible SSH connection, you have the ability to setup retries for the connection, using the network_cli conneciton plugin (build on paramiko) we don't have that option right now | 18:58 |
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mordred | pabelanger: seems like an opportunity to improve network_cli plugin - with a nice example of why it's important | 19:25 |
mordred | ;) | 19:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed zuul/zuul master: Spec: Add a Kubernetes Operator for Zuul https://review.opendev.org/659180 | 19:46 |
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pabelanger | mordred: indeed, I've raised a bug about it, as I can't imagine production users not also having this issue | 20:14 |
openstackgerrit | Merged zuul/zuul-jobs master: Add zuul-jobs-tox-linters https://review.opendev.org/668052 | 20:14 |
egustafson | Hi folks, really new to Zuul and had a couple questions. I've been picking up what I can through the quickstart guide and exploring/tweaking things to see how they fit together. 1.) The 'build node' in the quickstart guide appears to not need authentication (based on the image used). I was looking to edit nodepool.yaml and test using external vm's (static driver). Since its using ansible, I was assuming I need to seed the | 20:20 |
egustafson | build vm with the pub key of the caller ( executor/nodepool-launcher? )? 2.) The docker compose used in the quickstart are all pulling latest tags from dockerhub. Are there release tags that can be used (ex 3.0.0)? I see there are nightly's on dockerhub and a pull failed when i tried a 3.0.0 tag. 3.) Is there a kubernetes deployment (or even helm chart) that is officially recognized? I found a helm chart in a simple google | 20:20 |
egustafson | search but appears to be using home grown images. | 20:20 |
mordred | egustafson: 3) we're working on a k8s operator - so, not *yet* - but officially recognized and supported is on its way | 20:27 |
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egustafson | Thank you for the reply and information. I have a chunk of free time next week and was looking to see where sending the compose file through 'kompose' (compose->k8s transform) would get me. I've had luck with it in the past (after a few manual adjustments). I'll add myself to the announce mailer and keep an eye out for an official deployment. Thanks again ;) | 20:50 |
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clarkb | egustafson: re 1) yes you'll need ssh keys on the target of ansible ssh connections | 21:10 |
clarkb | egustafson: the opendev CI system does that by baking in a key for the zuul user at image build time | 21:11 |
clarkb | for 2) there are releases on pypi and dockerhub in addition to the latest tags iirc. 3.7.0 was the most recent zuul reealse and 3.9.0 the most recent nodepool reelase | 21:11 |
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SpamapS | clarkb:you sure you got those releases right? | 21:24 |
clarkb | maybe I flipped them | 21:24 |
fungi | fwiw, i can't find where to list older tags on dockerhub | 21:24 |
clarkb | ya I flipped them | 21:24 |
fungi | looks like it only goes back 12 days, so all it shows are the branch tip builds | 21:24 |
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egustafson | clarkb: thank you for the reply | 21:36 |
corvus | clarkb: do we tag releases on dockerhub? i know someone talked about it, but i don't remember anyone doing it yet | 22:22 |
clarkb | I thought we did | 22:24 |
clarkb | but maybe I'm remembering talking about it and not the doing it | 22:24 |
corvus | i don't see a post job for it | 22:24 |
corvus | egustafson: to clarify re 1) the test node in the quickstart does use ssh authentication -- we bind-mount the public key in here: https://opendev.org/zuul/zuul/src/branch/master/doc/source/admin/examples/docker-compose.yaml#L92 | 22:27 |
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openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: Add base integration roles https://review.opendev.org/668061 | 22:54 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: Shard project-pipeline config https://review.opendev.org/668763 | 22:54 |
corvus | this is fun -- that project config is not shaping up like any i've seen before :) | 22:55 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: Add base integration roles https://review.opendev.org/668061 | 22:57 |
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egustafson | clarkb: thanks for the info. i see the pub key, in the volume, is from the executor node - got it. for dockerhub, if you happen to line up any release tags, please share. i grabbed a bunch of versions from pip and tried to line up a couple, specifically 3.0.0, and docker pulled failed on that tag. | 23:49 |
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