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| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Make signal_transport a parameter https://review.openstack.org/113408 | 00:14 |
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| tchaypo | okay, so. codeine has been had. | 01:21 |
| tchaypo | now to see if pain relief clearing the brain predominates over codeine making it fuzzy | 01:22 |
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| tchaypo | so, a question for anyone (eg, StevenK) who might be around | 01:50 |
| lifeless | ... | 01:51 |
| tchaypo | lifeless is putting me to work as a cd-admin, which means I'm doing lots of editing of non-versioned config files on the bastions. I feel deeply uncomfortable editing unversioned files so the first thing I keep wanting to do is put them in a repo. | 01:51 |
| tchaypo | Is this normal? Am I being paranoid? Is there a tidy solution that doesn't involve creating lots of repos? | 01:52 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: I don't think there is an abstract answer to that | 01:53 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: what specific thing are you looking at now ? | 01:53 |
| tchaypo | in a previous life I might have created a small puppet module, intended to be run standalone, to deploy the files into their places.. which kinda works okay if everyone on the team is okay with using masterless puppet.. | 01:54 |
| tchaypo | seed.hp2...rc | 01:54 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: so, most of that is config, I think it should be in the tripleo-cd dir in tie | 01:54 |
| tchaypo | which is probably mostly generated code anyway, so not hard to recreate | 01:54 |
| tchaypo | it would be easy to move the file into there, check it in, create a symlink. | 01:55 |
| tchaypo | my sysadmin/puppet brain is complaining about the lack of a way to recreate the machine - unless the tripleo-cd element gets somehow run on the bastion? | 01:56 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: the bastion is kindof a proxy for tuskar | 01:56 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: ideally it disappears entirely eventually | 01:57 |
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| tchaypo | "proxy" in the sense of "stand-in", not proxy in the sense of "relays network traffic to", right? | 01:57 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: in terms of recreating the machine, sure, there are several angles; initial install; user management; security etc; setup as a deployment environment | 01:58 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: yes | 01:58 |
| tchaypo | how about I just move the files into t-i-e and leave the deployment worries for another day? | 01:58 |
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| lifeless | tchaypo: right now its shallow - checkout tripleo-end-to-end, copy a refs file across, then run it. Done. | 01:58 |
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| lifeless | tchaypo: up to you; the reason I am getting you up to speed is to make things better; its your call what needs to be done now vs later. | 01:59 |
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| lifeless | tchaypo: the main thing I ask is that you keep hp1 consistent so we don't have three different ways of doing this :) | 01:59 |
| tchaypo | +1 | 01:59 |
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| StevenK | tchaypo: So things than can be regenerated easily like the rc files I don't think are too important. Things like passwords and testenv.json (or at least a description of the nodes) and any special config should be somewhere else, at least | 02:08 |
| tchaypo | but not t-i-e | 02:08 |
| lifeless | StevenK: good point; thinks like the node dump -> nodes.json scripts should be captured | 02:08 |
| tchaypo | due to passwords | 02:08 |
| lifeless | passwords - why should they be captured? Or do you mean IPMI? In which case they are already stored elsewhere | 02:09 |
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| tchaypo | yes. ipmi. Where is the elsewhere? | 02:10 |
| lifeless | hp internal sites | 02:10 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Not IPMI passwords, they're in the nodes dump, or should be. tripleo-{und,ov}ercloud-passwords is what I was thinking | 02:11 |
| lifeless | mmm | 02:11 |
| tchaypo | i would assume htat if we're rebuilding the environment we'd recreate those passwords as we build out the new clouds? | 02:12 |
| lifeless | yes | 02:13 |
| lifeless | and they're stored in the various heats too | 02:13 |
| StevenK | Chicken and egg? You need to auth to get the passwords, which you may need the password for? | 02:14 |
| tchaypo | for today, my codeine-brain isn't up to making a long-term decision. I'm just going to make a repo on my laptop to track any changes and I'll look for a better solution once I'm able to operate heavy machinery again | 02:14 |
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| untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 03:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1351263 | 03:00 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1351263 in tripleo "Seed init failed, nova list returned 503" [Undecided,New] | 03:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1347848 | 03:00 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1347848 in tripleo "/etc/hosts information about cloud hsots lost on reboot" [Undecided,In progress] | 03:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Make removing nodes from scaled items possible. https://review.openstack.org/113431 | 03:33 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: does ^ line up with your 'kill a node' needs? | 03:33 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: yes! | 03:34 |
| SpamapS | been pondering on that for months.. glad you found something that makes sense. | 03:34 |
| Yanyanhu | hi, SpamapS, do you have a minute? | 03:38 |
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| SpamapS | Yanyanhu: I may be pulled away at any time, but just go ahead and ask anything you need to. | 03:39 |
| Yanyanhu | SpamapS, could you please help to review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107611/. I added auth_url discovery in heat collector just as I mentioned to you before. | 03:39 |
| Yanyanhu | SpamapS, sorry I have left last time you replied me. | 03:40 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: its been on my 'and we should do X' list, but time... | 03:40 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: one less reason to use chunk-heat :) | 03:41 |
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| SpamapS | Yanyanhu: ah, I've been on vacation and now am under a short deadline (Wednesday) so I am quite behind on reviews. I can prioritize yours but unlikely that I'll get to it before Thursday. | 03:43 |
| Yanyanhu | SpamapS, no problem. Thanks for your time :-) | 03:43 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Expose blacklisting scaled items via merge.py. https://review.openstack.org/113433 | 03:49 |
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| lifeless | oath | 03:53 |
| lifeless | | 884f1d25-28d5-4ade-880f-65b5ff2275d6 | testenv2-testenv1-w442kcrggilx | ERROR | deleting | NOSTATE | | | 03:53 |
| lifeless | like a boss | 03:54 |
| lifeless | ulp, wrong one :P | 03:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Expose blacklisting scaled items via merge.py. https://review.openstack.org/113433 | 04:03 |
| tchaypo | codeine brain is such fun | 04:03 |
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| lifeless | gnar | 04:21 |
| lifeless | now mysql is bound to the haproxy socket for it | 04:22 |
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| * tchaypo wants to make a tool for working with a local git-controlled cache of remote files that aren't version controlled on the remote end | 06:09 | |
| * tchaypo mostly wants to do this so he can call it "fuggit" | 06:09 | |
| devananda | shardy: why add ironic resources to heat? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104222/7 | 06:11 |
| devananda | this doesn't make sense to me | 06:12 |
| devananda | Ironic doesn't have a user-facing API | 06:12 |
| devananda | lifeless: do you know about this ^ ? | 06:12 |
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| killer_prince | Hi All, has anyone tried building RHEL 7 images using DIB and then deploying it on ESX VM..? I am facing issues.. It results in *System halted.* | 07:10 |
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| lifeless | devananda: I did not know that that was coming | 07:29 |
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| lifeless | ahahahhaa | 07:33 |
| lifeless | so you can't pivot from wildcard to specific binds for mysql | 07:34 |
| lifeless | if mysql is only reconfigured after haproxy | 07:34 |
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| lifeless | oh yay | 07:57 |
| lifeless | now neutron migrations are failing | 07:57 |
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| shardy | devananda: Because some folks asked for it, they're interested in orchestrating hardware configuration via ironic, as a precursor to deploying things, like openstack, on that hardware | 07:59 |
| shardy | devananda: In what sense is the ironic API not "user-facing", do you mean it's not a stable API? | 08:00 |
| shardy | because if you provide an API, folks will automate stuff, one way or another :) | 08:00 |
| lifeless | shardy: ironic has one basic objects in its API - machines | 08:01 |
| lifeless | shardy: from an orchestration point of view you can't create those just-in-time in any sensible fashion, is I think Devanandas point (except via the driver discovery interface, which is internal) | 08:02 |
| shardy | lifeless: Yup, but the use-case, as I understand it, is to enable heat to automate convergence and update of stuff like bios and firmware levels to a know ready-to-deploy state, then deploy stuff on those machines | 08:03 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Moved all parameters away from Role and into Plan https://review.openstack.org/112971 | 08:03 |
| shardy | perhaps I should try to work up a wiki page to see if I understand what was requested correctly and define the requirements more clearly | 08:03 |
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| lifeless | shardy: thats interesting, since ironic wants to be magic w.r.t. :) | 08:16 |
| lifeless | shardy: also - surely you should be specifying to nova what you want and letting nova and ironic sort it out | 08:16 |
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| shardy | lifeless: My understanding is that nova lacks the necessary interfaces to specify this sort of low-level platform management data, and it's desired to do this as a pre-deploy step, thus the desire to operate via the hardware's own management interfaces, via ironic | 08:20 |
| lifeless | shardy: I can appreciate that argument | 08:21 |
| lifeless | shardy: but the flavor model is pretty simple IMO | 08:21 |
| shardy | lifeless: my initial brief was "make heat talk to ironic", so I did that in the most minimal way possible :) | 08:21 |
| lifeless | shardy: there are two cases | 08:21 |
| lifeless | shardy: a) you just want it to work: so latest firmware, latest bios. | 08:21 |
| shardy | Sounds like I need to work up a spec with more detailed use-cases (for myself and everyone else ;) | 08:21 |
| lifeless | shardy: in that case, ironic can just do it | 08:22 |
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| lifeless | shardy: b) you want a specific combination of firmware etc | 08:22 |
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| lifeless | shardy: in which case you /could/ pre-prepare a machine then *bypass* the nova scheduler to use it | 08:23 |
| lifeless | shardy: or... | 08:23 |
| lifeless | shardy: sorry, playign CS:GO :) | 08:23 |
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| lifeless | shardy: righto, so or - | 08:24 |
| pensu | akrivoka: Can you please share your view on this : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2014-August/008829.html | 08:24 |
| lifeless | you could have a flavor defined that describes in extra parameters the versions you want, and then ironic can just-in-time it | 08:24 |
| lifeless | shardy: I'm not personally against heat being able to talk to ironic | 08:24 |
| shardy | lifeless: what happens when you have racks of thousands of machines, and you need some specific combination of bios, HBA and raid firmware (for operational or qualification purposes)? | 08:24 |
| lifeless | shardy: case b) | 08:25 |
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| shardy | Or you want to do a staged roll out of the same? | 08:25 |
| lifeless | shardy: scheduler constraint on the HBA, just in time of bios and raid | 08:25 |
| shardy | lifeless: but what applies the constraint, does Ironic contain the necessary plumbing to magically apply the firmware for specific vendors stuff based on some defined list of constraints? | 08:26 |
| lifeless | shardy: perhaps; basically yes it needs speccing, but I think it needs to also preserve nova schduler etc | 08:26 |
| openstackgerrit | dave-mcnally proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Adding default stunnel configuration options. https://review.openstack.org/113313 | 08:27 |
| shardy | lifeless: That may be usefual also, but AIUI the desire here was to provide a pre-validated hardware environment, which just happens to be orchestrated via heat | 08:28 |
| lifeless | shardy: sure | 08:28 |
| shardy | It could just be a script you run before deploying openstack, but the idea was just to have everything specified via heat | 08:28 |
| lifeless | shardy: so in tripleo we deploy the firmware as we go | 08:28 |
| akrivoka | pensu: could be this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/1313731 which has been fixed in the tuskar client | 08:29 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1313731 in python-tuskarclient "Error when using Tuskar to redeploy the overcloud" [Medium,Fix released] | 08:29 |
| lifeless | derekh: I appear to have recovered the cloud (at least to n=2 controllers) | 08:29 |
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| shardy | lifeless: Ok, let me dig into what tripleo does now, and try to write up a spec for why (I think) we need/want the Ironic resources :) | 08:30 |
| shardy | lifeless: do you have a link to the code which does that by any chance? | 08:31 |
| lifeless | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107247/ | 08:31 |
| lifeless | ilo version of | 08:31 |
| lifeless | when we switch to IPA we'd start using the in-ironic equivalent | 08:31 |
| shardy | lifeless: Ah, so you just do it at runtime when booting the box? | 08:33 |
| shardy | E.g in-band via the ramdisk vs out-of-band via the ilo/drac or whatever? | 08:33 |
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| lifeless | most stuff thats out there can't be done oob | 08:34 |
| lifeless | vendors are moving on it | 08:34 |
| derekh | lifeless: sounds good | 08:36 |
| lifeless | derekh: running bighammer with 10 now | 08:36 |
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| lifeless | derekh: its taking its time, which I presume is good :) | 08:36 |
| lifeless | derekh: ah nope, there it goes | 08:37 |
| derekh | lifeless: yup, its a good sign, you can tail one of the log files to see what its doing if you want | 08:37 |
| lifeless | + ssh fedora@138.35.77.113 sudo cp /home/fedora/.ssh/authorized_keys /home/jenkins/.ssh/authorized_keys | 08:37 |
| lifeless | ssh: connect to host 138.35.77.113 port 22: Connection timed out^M | 08:37 |
| lifeless | bet the router is down | 08:37 |
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| lifeless | as we don't have HA for that yet | 08:37 |
| lifeless | yup | 08:39 |
| lifeless | removed and addwed | 08:39 |
| pensu | akrivoka: I did that, restarted tuskar-api process, still getting the same error.... | 08:39 |
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| lifeless | derekh: ok so I'm going to tag you around now ;) | 08:43 |
| lifeless | derekh: I'll test the nonhot->hot migration with new heat tomorrow | 08:43 |
| derekh | lifeless: ok, cool, I see nodes going to ERROR state, will investigate | 08:44 |
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| lifeless | derekh: good news it started running the script on node 1 :) | 08:46 |
| derekh | lifeless: sweet | 08:46 |
| lifeless | + cd /home/jenkins/workspace | 08:47 |
| lifeless | + exit 0 | 08:47 |
| lifeless | + echo 'JOB DONE' | 08:47 |
| lifeless | | {u'message': u'No valid host was found. Exceeded max scheduling attempts 3 for instance 893ba227-7154-46d0-94f0-cd24c11a881f. Last exception: None.', u'code': 500, u'created': u'2014-08-12T08:41:37Z'} | | 08:48 |
| lifeless | nuts | 08:48 |
| lifeless | its using 10.10.16.190 for the db | 08:48 |
| lifeless | which is good | 08:49 |
| lifeless | checking haproxy config | 08:49 |
| lifeless | server ci-overcloud-controller1-ilf57txwixcg 10.10.16.161:3306 check inter 2000 rise 2 fall 5 backup | 08:49 |
| lifeless | server ci-overcloud-controller2-op4qahz2t4u7 10.10.16.144:3306 check inter 2000 rise 2 fall 5 backup | 08:49 |
| lifeless | mmm | 08:49 |
| lifeless | should do it, though only backup is odd :) | 08:51 |
| lifeless | ok, its all to one server | 08:59 |
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| untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 09:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1351263 | 09:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1347848 | 09:00 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1351263 in tripleo "Seed init failed, nova list returned 503" [Undecided,New] | 09:00 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1347848 in tripleo "/etc/hosts information about cloud hsots lost on reboot" [Undecided,In progress] | 09:00 |
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| jprovazn | lifeless: "backup" is needed to avoid deadlocks in galera cluster | 09:01 |
| lifeless | jprovazn: yeah, thats what I was investigating | 09:01 |
| lifeless | jprovazn: if you recall thats what we were suffering | 09:01 |
| jprovazn | lifeless: I don't recall TBH, I'm out of picture in last few days facing epic issue with rabbit :/ | 09:02 |
| lifeless | jprovazn: can I help? | 09:03 |
| lifeless | derekh: remember we have two controllers, so you may need to ook on -1 or -2 | 09:05 |
| jprovazn | lifeless: maybe yes, I'll do one more test and then there are 2 options: a) I'll have a patch or b) a mail in ML | 09:06 |
| derekh | lifeless: yup cool, I'm on there now and will start to look around, I'll have to get a bit more familiar with the HA setup | 09:06 |
| lifeless | derekh: ack ack | 09:06 |
| lifeless | derekh: debug logging should be on now - though if I missed a stanza my patch will need fixing. I don't think I did :P | 09:06 |
| lifeless | jprovazn: kk | 09:07 |
| derekh | lifeless: ok | 09:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Giulio Fidente proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Set up cinder-volume nodes pairing https://review.openstack.org/112051 | 09:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-specs: Corrects some inconsistencies in REST API spec https://review.openstack.org/109040 | 09:13 |
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| lifeless | TheJulia: btw I think the stats stanza in haproxy is wrong, theres' an error in the os-collect-config output when it starts | 09:29 |
| gfidente | guys, I'm having a hard time figuring how to solve a 'generic' problem for which I don't see an easy solution | 09:29 |
| lifeless | gfidente: speak, or forever hold the pieces | 09:30 |
| gfidente | I'm working on some cinder nfs backend configuration element (actually cinder-volume-nfs); problem is if one chose to use nfs on the cinder node (being it controller or blockstorage), we should ensure the nfs-common (or nfs-utils) is installed on the computes | 09:30 |
| gfidente | any idea how I could do that? | 09:30 |
| tchaypo | how do we tell if one has chosen to use nfs on the cinder node? | 09:32 |
| tchaypo | is this something we can detect or do we need the user to tell us? | 09:32 |
| lifeless | show them a rorschak test | 09:32 |
| lifeless | and see if they pass | 09:32 |
| lifeless | (I know, spelling) | 09:32 |
| gfidente | tchaypo, we have something in the template | 09:32 |
| tchaypo | codeinie-braine minds not your spelling | 09:32 |
| tchaypo | tomorrow I'm going to try just aspirin and paracetemol without the codeine and hopefully that will mean i'm not so fuzzy | 09:33 |
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| gfidente | tchaypo, the list of nfs shares to use for instance | 09:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Giulio Fidente proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Move Cinder NFS backend driver config in cinder-volume-nfs element https://review.openstack.org/113300 | 09:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ana Krivokapic proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Replace mocked Ironic data with real API calls https://review.openstack.org/112360 | 09:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Ana Krivokapic proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Expose IP address of a node instance https://review.openstack.org/113472 | 09:48 |
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| tchaypo | I done a thing | 09:51 |
| tchaypo | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/fuggit/0.0.1 | 09:51 |
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| * tchaypo waits to hear how terrible it is | 09:55 | |
| loki184 | lifeless: Can you please review this patch once again https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110562/ | 09:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Replace mocked Ironic data with real API calls https://review.openstack.org/112360 | 10:14 |
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| gfidente | tchaypo, it seems interesting from the description :) | 10:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Fix mocking of flavors https://review.openstack.org/113496 | 11:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ana Krivokapic proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Style the node details page https://review.openstack.org/113498 | 11:34 |
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| tchaypo | it makes use of https://pypi.python.org/pypi/begins/0.9 | 11:39 |
| tchaypo | which i discovered at pycon-au | 11:41 |
| tchaypo | I love the way it gets rid of so much boilerplate | 11:41 |
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| derekh | lifeless: Instances are failing to boot because of problem getting the image, lots of these errors in the glance logs | 11:49 |
| derekh | ClientException: Authorization Failure. Authorization Failed: Unable to establish connection to http://10.10.16.155:5000/v2.0/tokens | 11:49 |
| derekh | and possibly also DB connection problems | 11:49 |
| derekh | 2014-08-12 11:41:38.934 28813 WARNING oslo.db.sqlalchemy.session [49bce1b9-1cc7-46b4-8daa-effe5a7efe11 681cd894e09f424787a608372852c7b0 e23f57e1d6c54398a68354adf522a36d - - -] Database server has gone away: (2006, 'MySQL server has gone away') | 11:49 |
| derekh | Finally I *think* even when those are resolved we have swift problems (I think updates don't work for swift), | 11:49 |
| derekh | root@ci-overcloud-controller1-ilf57txwixcg:~# swift list glance | 11:49 |
| derekh | Container 'glance' not found | 11:49 |
| derekh | this is the one I'm looking into, trying to reproduce locally (we may need to put /etc/swift/*.builder in /mnt or something | 11:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adding HTTP mode to HAProxy stats https://review.openstack.org/113503 | 11:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adding HTTP mode to HAProxy stats https://review.openstack.org/113503 | 11:57 |
| TheJulia | lifeless: ^^^^ | 11:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Fix mocking of flavors https://review.openstack.org/113496 | 12:02 |
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| gfidente | lifeless https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108647/ too! | 12:05 |
| gfidente | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105878/ ! | 12:05 |
| gfidente | I'm tired of merging those in manually all the times ! :P | 12:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Restore rabbit.host and add an haproxy rabbit listener https://review.openstack.org/108647 | 12:12 |
| gfidente | jprovazn, you always get all the hugs and kisses | 12:15 |
| jprovazn | heh | 12:16 |
| jprovazn | I would be nervous if you were around ;) | 12:16 |
| * TheJulia raises an eyebrow | 12:17 | |
| gfidente | jprovazn, I think if you were to merge TheJulia's stuff than things would have worked better | 12:19 |
| * gfidente hides in the corner, looks like high school | 12:19 | |
| jprovazn | more +2 is required for TheJulia's patch | 12:19 |
| gfidente | +2 kisses you mean? | 12:21 |
| gfidente | I better change my nick for a while now so people won't recognize me | 12:21 |
| TheJulia | We will to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112367/ and it's parent in before changing over to the vip for mysql... considering I encountered bug 1348931 a few time yesterday running locally. | 12:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1348931 in tripleo "haproxy restarts can break cluster init" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1348931 | 12:21 |
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| gfidente | TheJulia, I see your rechecks on revert,revert,haproxy reload | 12:23 |
| jprovazn | gfidente: ;) | 12:23 |
| TheJulia | to find out CI is... umm... moderately unhappy... does not help things | 12:24 |
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| regebro | Hmmm. Do I have to build an undercloud on the same OS as I run devtest.sh on? | 12:34 |
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| gfidente | regebro, no, see http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-incubator/devtest_variables.html (NODE_DIST) | 12:36 |
| regebro | Right, so that's not the problem then. Hm. | 12:37 |
| regebro | gfidente: I get "load_policy: Can't load policy: No such file or directory" when it tries to build the undercloud image. Google didn't help me. Any ideas welcome. :-) | 12:39 |
| tchaypo | regebro: but that said, there are some cases that work better/worse than others | 12:40 |
| tchaypo | for instance my understanding is that you can | 12:40 |
| tchaypo | can't build an RHEL image on a debianish system | 12:41 |
| gfidente | regebro, I think that's because you're building a guest which uses selinux on a distro which doesn't | 12:41 |
| tchaypo | regebro: I still owe you an email from a few weeks ago too | 12:42 |
| regebro | gfidente: I tried both removing the selinux-permissive from the setup, and installing selinux locally. | 12:42 |
| regebro | I'll make a new test in trying to use ubuntu as the undercloud os. | 12:43 |
| regebro | Otherwise I need to scratch the machine and install CentOS I guess. | 12:44 |
| regebro | Or figure out how to install fedora without the GUI, I don't want it, I need the memory. ;-) | 12:44 |
| gfidente | regebro, I haven't explored that, I think the guy who can help you best is not around at the moment :( | 12:45 |
| gfidente | regebro, that would be rwsu | 12:45 |
| regebro | ok, thanks | 12:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tuskar: Fixed issue in remove_resource_alias_namespace https://review.openstack.org/112924 | 12:48 |
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| StevenK | marios: Could I trouble you to review (and hopefully approve) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111606/ , so I can propose a -config branch tomorrow that adds -python33 to the gate and cleans up os-cloud-config's section quite a lot? | 13:38 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix mysql element on centos7 https://review.openstack.org/113179 | 13:38 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Bump the size of the squid cache_dir. https://review.openstack.org/109294 | 13:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix /var/run SELinux file contexts https://review.openstack.org/108563 | 13:41 |
| openstackgerrit | dave-mcnally proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adding configuration options for stunnel. https://review.openstack.org/112870 | 13:45 |
| openstackgerrit | dave-mcnally proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Adding default stunnel configuration options. https://review.openstack.org/113313 | 13:46 |
| marios | StevenK: hey, i've already +2d it this morning | 13:48 |
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| pblaho-meeting | jdob: just a quick question | 13:50 |
| jdob | hit me | 13:50 |
| jdob | is this about the tempaltes return value? | 13:51 |
| pblaho-meeting | jdob: yeah.... | 13:51 |
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| jdob | ya, so it's going to be a JSON dict | 13:51 |
| pblaho-meeting | jdob: should we return application/txt or application/json? | 13:51 |
| jdob | heat can take a JSON doc that has a mapping of filename to its contents | 13:51 |
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| pblaho-meeting | jdob: ok, awesome.... | 13:51 |
| jdob | ya, that's one of the two things on my list to do in the next two days | 13:52 |
| pblaho-meeting | jdob: so as I understand tuskar will return one or more files' contents in this json document | 13:52 |
| jdob | correct | 13:52 |
| pblaho-meeting | jdob: will you add transfer object for it? | 13:52 |
| jdob | {env.yaml: "<template">, master.yaml: "<template>"} | 13:52 |
| jdob | yes | 13:53 |
| jdob | i'll take care of it | 13:53 |
| pblaho-meeting | jdob: ok... so I will continue on building python client as it is already there :-) | 13:53 |
| jdob | ya, dont worry about jumping back into the API, I noticed that yesterday and will take care of it | 13:53 |
| jdob | but you can pause on the client and review my patches if you're so inclined :) | 13:54 |
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| pblaho-meeting | jdob: I have just opened that patches in browser so I have them on my plate | 13:54 |
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| jdob | sweet, thanks | 13:54 |
| pblaho-meeting | jdob: but.... meeting now :-/ | 13:54 |
| jdob | doh :) | 13:54 |
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| gfidente | guys this is pretty urgent to restore cinder https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112978/ | 14:25 |
| gfidente | no hugs and no kisses but lollipops for the core who mergeds | 14:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Modify symbolic link creation. https://review.openstack.org/113192 | 14:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Set cinder_catalog_info in nova.conf https://review.openstack.org/112978 | 14:35 |
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| bnemec | gfidente: Connected to AMQP server on 127.0.0.1:5672 | 14:52 |
| bnemec | That seems like a problem. | 14:52 |
| bnemec | gfidente: Oh wait, not it's not. This is on the seed. | 14:53 |
| gfidente | bnemec, where are you seeing that? | 14:53 |
| bnemec | Pay no attention to me. I spent too much time looking at overcloud failures last week. :-) | 14:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Nicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Protect symbolic link creation. https://review.openstack.org/113546 | 14:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Protect symbolic link creation https://review.openstack.org/113546 | 14:58 |
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| untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 15:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1351263 | 15:00 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1351263 in tripleo "Seed init failed, nova list returned 503" [Undecided,New] | 15:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1347848 | 15:00 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1347848 in tripleo "/etc/hosts information about cloud hsots lost on reboot" [Undecided,In progress] | 15:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install the "classic" icinga interface https://review.openstack.org/87223 | 15:10 |
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| gfidente | r/names | 15:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Migrate from common code to oslo.db https://review.openstack.org/104548 | 15:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Base decision to use MariaDB on NODE_DIST https://review.openstack.org/113557 | 15:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fabio Giannetti proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Ceilometer Service Update/Upgrade in TripleO https://review.openstack.org/94500 | 16:08 |
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| derekh | lifeless: still trying to bring up a local overcloud to reproduce the swift problem I mentioned above, any time I try a HA overcloud (with the current devtest) at least one of the instances doesn't boot. | 16:20 |
| derekh | It may be the sceduler bug, does that still exist ? | 16:20 |
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| greghaynes | derekh: pretty sure the scheduler deal hasnt been fixed anywhere | 16:22 |
| derekh | greghaynes: ok, thanks, will need to dig deeper | 16:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Nicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Protect symbolic link creation https://review.openstack.org/113546 | 16:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Relabel filesystem if SELinux is available https://review.openstack.org/108375 | 16:30 |
| devananda | shardy: around? | 16:31 |
| shardy | devananda: Hi, yup | 16:31 |
| derekh | greghaynes: so do you have a workaround when your bringing up 3 controllers locally ? or is it a matter of try again until it works? I've had 4 fail in a row :-( | 16:31 |
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| shardy | devananda: thanks for your feedback re the Ironic resources, I'm working to create a spec with some more concrete use-cases | 16:31 |
| shardy | I'll add you when I post it, feedback will be welcome :) | 16:32 |
| devananda | shardy: great, thanks | 16:34 |
| devananda | shardy: fwiw, I'll be gone until 9/3 | 16:34 |
| devananda | shardy: so happy to chat today if that will help clear things up, unless you want to wait until after FF | 16:34 |
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| shardy | devananda: No problem, I don't think we're planning to enforce feature freeze for contrib code in Heat (because it's all disabled by default), so we can potentially continue the discussion and code after | 16:36 |
| devananda | shardy: ack | 16:36 |
| devananda | shardy: i skimmed the discussion you had with lifeless. one comment there is that, today, ironic does not model anything about firmware, bios, etc. | 16:37 |
| devananda | both tripleo and onmetal are leveraging ironic to accomplish firmware updates in a way that ironic itself is agnostic to | 16:37 |
| shardy | devananda: I've been directed at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/drac-raid-mgmt as one situation where out-of-band orchestration of hardware, pre-deployment is desirable | 16:38 |
| devananda | sure | 16:38 |
| devananda | that's not going to land in Juno | 16:38 |
| devananda | but yes, such a thing is desired | 16:39 |
| shardy | devananda: The idea of the heat resources is really just to get a minimal initial wrapper for the ironic APIs, which will enable access to stuff like that via heat when it lands in ironic | 16:39 |
| shardy | Being in contrib will give us quite a bit of freedom to iterate on them until we have something folks find useful | 16:40 |
| devananda | you're going to have some very interesting just-in-time races if using Heat to pre-configure hardware, then deploying through Nova, as the Nova scheduler is still ultimately responsible for placing the workload on the machine that you *hope* it should be on | 16:40 |
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| shardy | devananda: I think the idea of using heat is to avoid such races, because we can be sure the out-of-band preparation has been completed before we ever talk to nova | 16:41 |
| devananda | but you're not sure that Nova is aware of it yet | 16:41 |
| devananda | since you don't have visibility into the nova resource tracker AFAIK | 16:41 |
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| shardy | And also to sequence the out of band operations where ordering is important | 16:41 |
| devananda | sure | 16:42 |
| devananda | so yes, I think that heat preconfiguring hardware certainly bears a larger discussion | 16:42 |
| devananda | I don't think that creating nodes makes any sense, though | 16:42 |
| devananda | *though perhaps I'm missing another intended use case here | 16:42 |
| shardy | devananda: taking the RAID vendor passthrough as an example, what API object would you expect that to be accessed through? | 16:43 |
| devananda | the Node | 16:44 |
| devananda | eg, /v1/nodes/UUID/vendor_passthru?method=this¶m=that | 16:45 |
| shardy | So, heat would need to create a node via the Ironic API in order to configure the RAID? | 16:45 |
| devananda | nope | 16:45 |
| shardy | Or are you saying we really need to intropect nova for UUID above? | 16:45 |
| devananda | nope | 16:45 |
| devananda | I'm not saying either of those | 16:46 |
| devananda | each resource in ironic represents a discrete physical object in the data center | 16:46 |
| devananda | if Heat wants a list of nodes, and heat has "admin" priveleges, it can just ask ironic for a list of nodes | 16:46 |
| devananda | GET /v1/nodes | 16:47 |
| devananda | but the moment you *choose* a single node to operate on, you're acting as a scheduler | 16:47 |
| devananda | so let's say you GET /v1/nodes, it returns 100 nodes, Heat chooses one and prepares the RAID on it | 16:47 |
| shardy | devananda: So what entity creates the nodes, autodiscovery inside Ironic? | 16:47 |
| devananda | then Heat requests that Nova provisions something -- you can't actually ask Nova to use *that* node | 16:48 |
| devananda | it's up to the Nova scheduler to choose an appropriate node for the workload | 16:48 |
| devananda | shardy: no. we don't implement autodiscovery yet, and the more we have looked into it, the more agreement is taht we shouldn't ever do it inside ironic | 16:48 |
| devananda | shardy: the operator (or some service acting on their behalf) has enrolled the hardware in Ironic previously | 16:48 |
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| shardy | So what does the POST v1/nodes to create each node in the Ironic DB? | 16:49 |
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| devananda | shardy: the operator (or some service on their behalf) | 16:49 |
| shardy | heat == some service on their behalf | 16:49 |
| devananda | no | 16:49 |
| devananda | well | 16:49 |
| devananda | is the operator feeding a .CSV file of their entire hardware inventory to Heat? | 16:49 |
| shardy | Well into a tool which mechanically generates a template and feeds it into heat more likely | 16:50 |
| devananda | ok. this seems like quite a departure in thinking about heat | 16:50 |
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| devananda | now it's an inventory management tool? | 16:50 |
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| shardy | The sort of use-cases I've been hearing is if you want groups of hardware, configured with different RAID levels, then later after pre-configuring them you want to create servers in a particular group, e.g via passing a hint to nova | 16:51 |
| SpamapS | devananda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpu5_3qk4KM | 16:51 |
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| devananda | SpamapS: lol nice | 16:52 |
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| shardy | devananda: we're just exploring some ideas - heat is a tool which orchestrates access to any OpenStack API's, Ironic has an OpenStack API | 16:54 |
| shardy | If it turns out everything required already happens magically inside Ironic or Nova, that's perfectly fine by me :) | 16:55 |
| shardy | I'm still in the process of filling in some major knowledge gaps in Ironic, so your patience is appreciated ;) | 16:55 |
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| devananda | shardy: *nod* apologies if I seem snarky, but I had not planned on nor been aware of any interest in any heat-ironic interaction | 17:00 |
| devananda | shardy: and this close to graduation, it feels like, yet again, having someone move the goalpost at the last minute | 17:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Make signal_transport a parameter https://review.openstack.org/113408 | 17:02 |
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| shardy | devananda: well that's hardly my intention, if anything the exact opposite, given that Heat integrates with every other integrated project (and most incubated ones too) | 17:03 |
| devananda | shardy: if in fact there's a need for heat-ironic interaction, then yes, your work is exactly the start of what we'd need :) | 17:04 |
| shardy | devananda: Ok, cool, let me work up some use-case details and we can chat again in a couple of weeks | 17:06 |
| devananda | shardy: sounds good | 17:07 |
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| greghaynes | oh wow, heat stack-delete failed | 17:20 |
| greghaynes | :_( | 17:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jonathan Brownell proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Move cacert property out of "stunnel" and into a new "ssl" group https://review.openstack.org/110121 | 17:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix /etc/nova permissions https://review.openstack.org/108172 | 17:39 |
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| dprince | rbrady: what is the oversight here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104196/2 | 17:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Handle double path registration https://review.openstack.org/113546 | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Don't allow swift-recon cron job to send mail https://review.openstack.org/112755 | 17:59 |
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| rbrady | dprince: it still calls map-services. It'll be a quick fix, I just haven't gotten around to it. I can probably get a new patch pushed up this evening | 18:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Giulio Fidente proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Passthrough and allNodesConfig for BlockStorage nodes https://review.openstack.org/112075 | 18:15 |
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| dprince | rbrady: great, once it is wired in I think we should proceed. Been reviewing things today and we could really use this in several places | 18:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Giulio Fidente proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Passthrough and allNodesConfig for BlockStorage nodes https://review.openstack.org/112075 | 18:22 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Make the tripleorc file set -u safe https://review.openstack.org/105968 | 18:25 |
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| TheJulia | bnemec: 112367 finally passed... \o/ | 18:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Dobies proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: WIP: Wires up REST API stubs to real logic https://review.openstack.org/113609 | 18:43 |
| lifeless | morning | 18:45 |
| TheJulia | good morning | 18:47 |
| cinerama | hi lifeless | 18:50 |
| lifeless | hah | 18:53 |
| lifeless | we're setting replicas 1 | 18:53 |
| lifeless | even in HA | 18:53 |
| lifeless | so I'm fairly sure glance is unhappy just because everything was lost :/ | 18:53 |
| lifeless | or | 18:54 |
| lifeless | mmm wrong account | 18:54 |
| lifeless | TheJulia: greghaynes: is there a patch up for that ? | 18:57 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Source set-os-type https://review.openstack.org/106341 | 18:57 |
| lifeless | also is the meeting nowish ? | 18:57 |
| tchaypo | Jawhol | 18:57 |
| greghaynes | lifeless: not that I know of | 18:59 |
| TheJulia | lifeless: for glance? off the top of my head I don't know. | 18:59 |
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| lifeless | for swift | 18:59 |
| lifeless | /etc/swift/container.builder, build version 2 | 18:59 |
| lifeless | 1024 partitions, 1.000000 replicas, 1 regions, 1 zones, 2 devices, 0.00 balance | 18:59 |
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| greghaynes | heh, nice | 19:02 |
| lifeless | mkerrin: hey, if you're around could you joing the meeting please? #openstack-meeting-alt | 19:04 |
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| tchaypo | Ng: is today one of your american days? | 19:55 |
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| * tchaypo has been reading The Princess Bride | 19:59 | |
| * tchaypo has just realised he alternates between Mandy Patenkin and gfidente for his mental image of inigo montoya | 20:00 | |
| tchaypo | #info Last week's meeting notes got misfiled under http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo_weekly/ - I'll ping infra to see if we can get them moved | 20:01 |
| * tchaypo was waiting for open discussion but we ran out of time | 20:01 | |
| lifeless | dprince: you were going to discuss the multi-nova-compute thing with nova folk | 20:02 |
| lifeless | dprince: hows that going? | 20:02 |
| dprince | lifeless: ah, yes. So we spoke about it in nova-compute last thurs or fri I think | 20:03 |
| dprince | lifeless: the gist we are off the beaten path, as in "that works", oh wow, well you got "lucky" | 20:04 |
| dprince | lifeless: I heard that John Garbutt (from RAX) might be interested in the use case and I haven't caught up w/ him yet though | 20:04 |
| lifeless | dprince: so the question from me is how nova would like to see this done | 20:04 |
| dprince | lifeless: so let me see what he says | 20:04 |
| lifeless | dprince: e.g. would they rather a multi-driver-driver | 20:05 |
| lifeless | dprince: or multiple processes | 20:05 |
| lifeless | dprince: we can drive forward if they set a direction | 20:05 |
| dprince | lifeless: the short answer would be to run the seperate nova-compute process in its own container/vm | 20:05 |
| lifeless | dprince: thats not really any different to what we've done | 20:05 |
| dprince | lifeless: which would also get rid of all of our config file issues as well | 20:05 |
| lifeless | dprince: its multiple processes | 20:05 |
| dprince | lifeless: right, well I take issue w/ what we've done | 20:06 |
| lifeless | dprince: I really don't want us to reimplement nova's VM management stuff, and we can't do iscsi in a container which means nova-bm is dead in the water | 20:06 |
| dprince | lifeless: so this doesn't block docker | 20:06 |
| lifeless | dprince: oh? | 20:07 |
| dprince | lifeless: it just blocks the all-in-one use case where docker and NOva BM share a node (for now) | 20:07 |
| lifeless | sure | 20:07 |
| dprince | lifeless: you could still roll out docker nodes elsewhere. So perhaps we do that first (it is simpler anyways) | 20:07 |
| dprince | lifeless: kick the tires on it a bit, and see if it fits, | 20:07 |
| lifeless | I don't understand why this needs to block; we can do it so that folk who don't want/don't care don't use it - and make sure it doesn't affect RDO | 20:07 |
| dprince | lifeless: I'd prefer that approach instead of gutting systemd scripts from packages to get this sort of niche feature | 20:08 |
| lifeless | dprince: I suspect that the control plane density desire is going to hit something like 80% of deployments | 20:08 |
| lifeless | dprince: e.g. I don't think this is nice | 20:08 |
| lifeless | niche | 20:08 |
| dprince | lifeless: it needs to block because it crosses the line IMO, TripleO isn't a distro... and as such maybe it should respect the systemd scripts from distros | 20:08 |
| dprince | lifeless: then Nova should support our case :) | 20:09 |
| dprince | lifeless: I just want things to line up | 20:09 |
| lifeless | dprince: and if nova choose to support it by saying 'run separate processes' ? | 20:09 |
| lifeless | then I'd argue that the distro is at fault if its systemd units are not flexible enough | 20:09 |
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| dprince | lifeless: Then fair game. I'd expect all distro packages to follow suite and we are good to go | 20:10 |
| lifeless | they aren't there to limit what you can do, they are there to make doing the common case easy | 20:10 |
| lifeless | limiting what we can do to what the union of distros have done doesn't make sense - I've not seen any production environment do that | 20:10 |
| dprince | lifeless: right, so I just want how we configure Nova to be representative of how Nova thinks (supports and tests) we should configure it | 20:11 |
| lifeless | making sure what we do plays nice with what distros do is important, all I'm asking is how we can do that here | 20:11 |
| lifeless | I agree! | 20:11 |
| dprince | lifeless: so if you read all of my comments it really is those two issues, not overwriting systemd scripts, and having our case be the normal Nova case | 20:11 |
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| lifeless | so, *if* nova say 'for this use case, use N processes' - that would be a tick. If they say 'write a multi-driver' thats fine too. | 20:12 |
| tchaypo | I've updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO#Agenda_for_next_meeting to have the "#startmeeting" command to kick the meeting off, a template for a copy-and-pastable one-time agenda items section, and to make the initial agenda paste a little more automated | 20:12 |
| dprince | lifeless: so there is plenty we can do in systemd to support all these things | 20:12 |
| dprince | lifeless: none of these are unsolvable problems, I suppose I'd like to see a bit more of the light at the end of the tunnel before we do this costly thing first | 20:12 |
| * gfidente registered a BP for cinder-ha, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/tripleo-juno-cinder-ha | 20:13 | |
| lifeless | dprince: by light at the end of the tunnel, do you mean benefits from it, or design clarity from nova, or <...>? | 20:13 |
| dprince | lifeless: perposefully ambiguiuos, all of the above | 20:13 |
| lifeless | dprince: heh | 20:14 |
| lifeless | dprince: so how can bnemec and I help you get that... | 20:14 |
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| lifeless | oh | 20:16 |
| lifeless | I did it again | 20:16 |
| lifeless | I have the two of you quantum juxtaposed | 20:17 |
| lifeless | slagle: bnemec: sorry, a thousand times sorry. | 20:17 |
| dprince | lifeless: I suppose you can keep bugging me if you want. I'd like to talk to John, and if that idea doesn't seem to pan out then perhaps we revisit what really must happen in package land to make this more palletable | 20:17 |
| dprince | lifeless: is *this* like them most important thing now?! | 20:17 |
| bnemec | lifeless: No worries :-) | 20:18 |
| lifeless | dprince: its pretty important to me for a few reasons. | 20:18 |
| * dprince is surprised to see something trump HA, already | 20:18 | |
| lifeless | dprince: I get pinged every couple of days by folk wanting less overhead for tripleo deploys - and this will remove the overhead of having a dedicated deploy cloud for small sites | 20:19 |
| lifeless | dprince: I want to reduce overhead for testing HA on developer machines, and this should permit that as well | 20:19 |
| dprince | lifeless: in the first case why not have them go straight from seed to overcloud? | 20:19 |
| lifeless | dprince: (by running the workload control plane in containers in the seed) | 20:19 |
| lifeless | dprince: the seed isn't dynamically reconfigurable // is a lot harder to update - and when we get rid of the seed for an HA self-maintained deploy cloud... | 20:20 |
| lifeless | dprince: ok for two reasons. Folk pinging me and reducing overhead for HA testing on laptops. | 20:20 |
| dprince | lifeless: The second case, to me is a developer CI problem. Important to solve those... but I hate to see our "solution" be one that impacts the configuration of a core service like Nova like tis | 20:21 |
| dprince | lifeless: if we do the stateful seed partition thing (re-seeder, or whatever) then that might help no? | 20:21 |
| dprince | lifeless: look, I'm all for saving resources | 20:21 |
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| dprince | lifeless: but the costs here seem a bit high to me (it affects our baseline Nova config) | 20:24 |
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| dprince | lifeless: gotta run, happy to discuss this more tommorrow if you guys are up for it | 20:26 |
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| slagle | so, i believe the "cant use ironic/nova-bm in a container" thing is just b/c of iscsi | 20:28 |
| slagle | whose use is now completely in ironic-conductor isn't it? | 20:28 |
| slagle | so we run 1 nova compute process, configured for lxc, docker, kvm, whatever | 20:29 |
| slagle | deploy a compute node configured with the ironic driver to that hypervisor type | 20:29 |
| slagle | using an ironic-conductor just running on the node itself, not in a hypervisor | 20:30 |
| slagle | so we have 2 nova computes, but the ironic one is basically running in a container (or vm) | 20:31 |
| slagle | lifeless: ^ | 20:31 |
| lifeless | slagle: yes, conductor separate is doable | 20:32 |
| lifeless | slagle: thats evil but doable | 20:32 |
| slagle | well, nova thinks we are a bit off the rails with the current design :( | 20:32 |
| lifeless | slagle: fair enough :/ | 20:33 |
| slagle | not sure this is any better | 20:33 |
| lifeless | we'll have issues w/cinder too if we do this in the gate w/lxc but perhaps we can un-namespace that | 20:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Move cacert property out of "stunnel" and into a new "ssl" group https://review.openstack.org/110121 | 20:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Phil Neal proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add elements for Ceilometer alarm services https://review.openstack.org/113647 | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Phil Neal proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Deploy Ceilometer alarm services to the overcloud controller https://review.openstack.org/113648 | 20:52 |
| tchaypo | lifeless: so http://paste.openstack.org/show/94023/ is what I plan to do to the seed....rc on hp2 | 20:53 |
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| tchaypo | lifeless: I've updated repo_refs.yaml on hp2 to match the changes on hp1 | 20:59 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: seems ok | 21:00 |
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| untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 21:01 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1351263 | 21:01 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1356040 | 21:01 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1351263 in tripleo "Seed init failed, nova list returned 503" [Undecided,New] | 21:01 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1355898 | 21:01 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1356040 in tripleo "Glance entry in iptables needs 9191 entry for Fedora" [Undecided,New] | 21:01 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1347848 | 21:01 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1355898 in tripleo "mariadb doesn't start after an upgrade" [Undecided,New] | 21:01 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1347848 in tripleo "/etc/hosts information about cloud hsots lost on reboot" [Undecided,In progress] | 21:01 |
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| tchaypo | great. so I'm not certain what the next step is | 21:02 |
| tchaypo | but I *think* it's to run prep_source_repos and look for merge conflicts | 21:02 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: that seems like a fine thing to do | 21:03 |
| openstackgerrit | James Slagle proposed a change to openstack/os-apply-config: Support stateful_path in control files https://review.openstack.org/113651 | 21:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Joseph Davis proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: For Glance add port 9292 to the iptables list https://review.openstack.org/113652 | 21:05 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: ssl-ca: Allow CA certificate to be specified https://review.openstack.org/110072 | 21:05 |
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| slagle | can i get a core reviewer on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112366/ plz? | 21:16 |
| slagle | other reviews welcome of course as well :) | 21:16 |
| slagle | if that merges, then the revert of the revert of the haproxy reload should merge | 21:16 |
| bnemec | Heh, I was just about to ask for the same thing. :-) | 21:17 |
| slagle | lifeless: greghaynes : ^^ | 21:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Su proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Extract audit.log from archive https://review.openstack.org/113370 | 21:30 |
| greghaynes | slagle: isnt there a bug that should ref? | 21:31 |
| greghaynes | er, bnemec ^ | 21:31 |
| bnemec | greghaynes: The subsequent patch closes the bug. | 21:31 |
| greghaynes | then at least a related-bug | 21:32 |
| greghaynes | pedantic greghaynes is pedantic | 21:32 |
| greghaynes | but, IIRC you dont lose votes on just commit msg changes | 21:32 |
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| greghaynes | also, Ill be happy to not re-wait for CI to re-run with that fix :)P | 21:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Revert "Revert "Adding haproxy reload check"" https://review.openstack.org/112367 | 21:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add workaround for reloading haproxy on Fedora https://review.openstack.org/112366 | 21:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Richard Su proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Extract audit.log from archive https://review.openstack.org/113370 | 21:37 |
| bnemec | Sigh | 21:37 |
| greghaynes | slagle: up for the +A? | 21:37 |
| greghaynes | oh, you already got the +2 | 21:37 |
| bnemec | greghaynes: Merge conflict :-( | 21:37 |
| greghaynes | womp womp | 21:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Revert "Revert "Adding haproxy reload check"" https://review.openstack.org/112367 | 21:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add workaround for reloading haproxy on Fedora https://review.openstack.org/112366 | 21:38 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add workaround for reloading haproxy on Fedora https://review.openstack.org/112366 | 21:38 |
| slagle | i +a'd the first | 21:38 |
| greghaynes | whoa, the second one passed HA test | 21:39 |
| bnemec | It is a fix for haproxy problems. :-) | 21:40 |
| bnemec | Oh, that wasn't as trivial a rebase as I thought. It moved the file from post-configure to configure too. | 21:41 |
| lifeless | slagle: o/ | 21:42 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: ok so my next thing is to check nonhot->hot migration | 21:42 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: which is going to be an hour or so | 21:42 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: I think the next hp2 thing is to deploy a new seed and check the bm-networks and nodes were all correct | 21:43 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: (and document everything so far, of course) | 21:43 |
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| lifeless | slagle: bnemec: greghaynes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113148/ | 21:54 |
| lifeless | ^ please | 21:54 |
| bnemec | lifeless: Done | 21:56 |
| lifeless | thanks! | 21:56 |
| greghaynes | merge fail | 21:56 |
| lifeless | sadface | 21:57 |
| bnemec | Argh | 21:57 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: you up for fixing? | 21:57 |
| * bnemec has to duck out for a while but will be back later tonight | 21:57 | |
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| stevebaker | lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113148/ needs a rebase? | 21:57 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: also you quoted a bug number at me overnight but I can't see it now | 21:58 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: ENOIDEA :) | 22:00 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: yes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113148/ | 22:00 |
| stevebaker | rebasing now | 22:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Switch to heat_template_version: 2013-05-23 https://review.openstack.org/113148 | 22:02 |
| tchaypo | lifeless: the first thing to do on hp2 is for me to wrap my head around the merge conflict I'm getting in T-H-T | 22:03 |
| tchaypo | I think that to solve it I need to unwind back to the local changes, modify them to not conflict, then get prep_source_repos to roll in the upstream changes | 22:03 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: what local changes? | 22:04 |
| tchaypo | hrm. good point. | 22:06 |
| tchaypo | let's leave it at "i need to solve the merge conflict" | 22:07 |
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| lifeless | tchaypo: what is the merge conflict first :) | 22:10 |
| tchaypo | it gets the conflict in "merging in refs/changes/54/103454/31" | 22:10 |
| tchaypo | first conflict is in nova-compute-instance.yaml | 22:11 |
| lifeless | ok | 22:11 |
| lifeless | so thats in flux right this second | 22:11 |
| tchaypo | HEAD has a RabbitHost key that 103454 lacks, but in 103454 all the "Type: string" lines are changed to "Type: String" | 22:11 |
| lifeless | as I'm about to test the migration away from host | 22:11 |
| lifeless | erm | 22:12 |
| lifeless | nonhot->hot | 22:12 |
| lifeless | TheJulia: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105878/ conflicted with trunk | 22:12 |
| lifeless | TheJulia: I'm going to presume you are EOD and rebase for you | 22:12 |
| tchaypo | the other conflict is in overcloud-source.yaml; lots of get_attr in HEAD vs Fn::Select in 103454 and so on | 22:15 |
| tchaypo | again I think that hot/non-hot | 22:15 |
| lifeless | sounds like you don't have 54/113154/0 in your refs perhaps | 22:16 |
| lifeless | anyhow | 22:16 |
| lifeless | give me a few to tackle this | 22:16 |
| tchaypo | 113154 is in the list, and it's in the branch name | 22:17 |
| tchaypo | but it looks like it's set the branch name first and is then applying patches on it one at a time, and 103454 is the first patch it's applying | 22:17 |
| tchaypo | if these don't look like local changes I can probably "git co master" "git branch -D rollup_103454_108208_112778_113154_113214_113431" "git pull" then try again | 22:18 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: I think you need to read the tripleo-end-to-end code in detail | 22:19 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: and perhaps propose docs fixes to help other folk not need to | 22:19 |
| lifeless | (and or bugfixes..) | 22:19 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: [git reset --hard, then try again, is all you should need] | 22:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Change overcloud to use VIP for MySQL https://review.openstack.org/105878 | 22:23 |
| tchaypo | possibly I need a deeper understanding of homeolithic endofunctors | 22:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add nova metadata for group https://review.openstack.org/113358 | 22:23 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Make turning debug on globally easy. https://review.openstack.org/112778 | 22:26 |
| tchaypo | git reset --hard restores it to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110121/ which only just merged, so that looks like the right upstream. | 22:27 |
| tchaypo | i bet if i try manually merging 103454 on top of that I'll get conflicts | 22:28 |
| tchaypo | yep let me fix that as part of a rebase. | 22:30 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: uhm | 22:31 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: thats what I'm editing atm | 22:31 |
| tchaypo | ... in that case, i will just stand back and wait | 22:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Fixup network configuration for ext-net https://review.openstack.org/108213 | 22:40 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Permit specifying VLAN mappings to overclouds. https://review.openstack.org/108208 | 22:41 |
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| lifeless | stevebaker: can you rebase your patch again :) | 22:48 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: on top of 105878 ? | 22:48 |
| stevebaker | k | 22:49 |
| lifeless | both got +A'd before, and they conflict | 22:49 |
| tchaypo | Great, now I have both lifeless and stevenk in my head commenting on my breakfast | 22:50 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: rotfl | 22:50 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: I had a pack of bacon for breakfast today | 22:50 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: it was yummy | 22:51 |
| tchaypo | lifeless noting how horribly burnt I made the eggs from having the pan too hot and telling me I'm not a good short-order chef | 22:51 |
| tchaypo | and stevenk chiming in with "You're *terr*ible" | 22:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Switch to heat_template_version: 2013-05-23 https://review.openstack.org/113148 | 22:56 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: thanks | 22:56 |
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| lifeless | bombs away | 22:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Revert migration to HOT https://review.openstack.org/113154 | 23:17 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Change overcloud to use VIP for MySQL https://review.openstack.org/113214 | 23:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Make turning debug on globally easy. https://review.openstack.org/113691 | 23:31 |
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| tchaypo | I wish I could figure out what i need to do to provoke pbr into doing its sphinx autodoc thing for me | 23:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Expose public_interface_tag support https://review.openstack.org/103454 | 23:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Fixup network configuration for ext-net https://review.openstack.org/108213 | 23:52 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Permit specifying VLAN mappings to overclouds. https://review.openstack.org/108208 | 23:52 |
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| tchaypo | excellent, now we get all the way through the stack to 112778 before we hit merge conflicts | 23:54 |
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| lifeless | tchaypo: I get no conflicts with the refs on hp1 | 23:54 |
| tchaypo | ... I see you've made some changes there. | 23:55 |
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| tchaypo | specifically a re-ordering of the tht stack, it looks like. let me mirror that on hp2 | 23:57 |
| tchaypo | ah, you've commented 112778 out, so of course there's no error :p | 23:58 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: there are two versions of the patch | 23:59 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: I'm heading towards doing that for all of these | 23:59 |
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