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openstackgerrit | Jan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Make sure a loop device exists before kpartx is called https://review.openstack.org/65056 | 09:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Jan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Make sure a loop device exists before kpartx is called https://review.openstack.org/65056 | 10:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Jan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Make sure a loop device exists before kpartx is called https://review.openstack.org/65056 | 10:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Radomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Update installation instructions https://review.openstack.org/64657 | 10:44 |
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marios | r | 11:35 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Make sure a loop device exists before kpartx is called https://review.openstack.org/65056 | 12:49 |
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jprovazn | anyone successfully ran overcloud-control instance with the new /mnt/state stuff? | 14:23 |
jprovazn | on fedora | 14:24 |
jprovazn | mysql seems to be broken for me: http://paste.openstack.org/show/60430/ | 14:24 |
* derekh hasn't tried it | 14:25 | |
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derekh | jprovazn: trying t out now | 14:30 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Update installation instructions https://review.openstack.org/64657 | 14:30 |
jprovazn | derekh: thanks | 14:30 |
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jprovazn | another issue seems to be with /opt/stack/os-config-refresh/post-configure.d/50-mysql-users - it seems it doesn't read /etc/mysql/my.cnf where is proper path to socket set | 14:57 |
jprovazn | http://paste.openstack.org/show/60438/ | 14:57 |
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jprovazn | # Root should have a my.cnf setup | 15:00 |
jprovazn | conn = MySQLdb.Connect(read_default_file=os.path.expanduser('~/.my.cnf')) | 15:00 |
jprovazn | ^ this is apparently wrong | 15:00 |
jprovazn | (from file /opt/stack/os-config-refresh/post-configure.d/50-mysql-users) | 15:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Petr Blaho proposed a change to openstack/python-tuskarclient: [WIP] Adds help for subcommands https://review.openstack.org/56257 | 15:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Petr Blaho proposed a change to openstack/python-tuskarclient: [WIP] Adds help for subcommands https://review.openstack.org/56257 | 16:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Tzu-Mainn Chen proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Add mock api calls to the UI https://review.openstack.org/62554 | 17:08 |
Ng | has anyone run into https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1255128 recently? | 17:16 |
Ng | just running a fresh seed image build and hit it | 17:16 |
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Ng | mordred: about? | 17:17 |
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slagle | hmm, the pip installs of diskimage-builder and t-i-e aren't super useful b/c all the element hook scripts aren't installed +x | 17:25 |
slagle | i can't seem to find an obvious way to fix that | 17:25 |
Ng | mordred: (running into something that looks a lot like bug #1203340 which is fixed and assigned to you, curious how you fixed it) | 17:29 |
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Ng | fudged around it by installing warlock with pip, rather than letting it end up being installed by easy_install | 17:35 |
Ng | but hitting the same thing with cliff now | 17:35 |
Ng | I do not understand why pip ends up using easy_install to install dependencies, but I care for it not one little bit | 17:35 |
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cody-somerville | Hey everybody! Happy New Years! | 17:37 |
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SpamapS | cody-somerville: howdy! | 17:39 |
Ng | SpamapS: hey, have you run a full tripleo build recently? | 17:44 |
Ng | I'm over in Galway with some HP folk showing them our wonderful stuff and running into all sorts of sucky pip/easy_install issues | 17:44 |
Ng | I haven't done a full run at home since before xmas, but it was all working fine then :/ | 17:44 |
SpamapS | Ng: Oh I thought you and I were going to be in Galway next month. Interesting. | 17:45 |
Ng | SpamapS: nup, today and tomorrow | 17:45 |
SpamapS | Ng: I did a build around the 28th. | 17:45 |
Ng | aha, the run I just did at home has failed in exactly the same way | 17:45 |
SpamapS | Ng: using the mysql patches that have landed since. | 17:45 |
Ng | or at least in the first of the exact same ways that it died here | 17:45 |
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SpamapS | Ng: how is it dying? | 17:51 |
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SpamapS | slagle: can you raise a bug about the pip installs? I'm sure it is fixable. | 17:52 |
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slagle | SpamapS: yea, i will. if i can't figure it out shortly :) | 17:55 |
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slagle | i'm still looking at it | 17:56 |
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Ng | SpamapS: so the first error is that netaddr won't install because pip can't satisfy the dependencies, even though it should be able to | 17:58 |
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Ng | jprovazn filed a bug about that and listed a workaround that makes it use http to install that package, and that "works" | 17:59 |
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Ng | but then we've been hitting errors installing python-*client with things like warlock/cliff being installed as dependencies, using easy_install, but they seem to be too new to be compatible with easy_install | 17:59 |
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Ng | so I've worked around those by just manually installing them with pip before the *client packages get pip installed | 18:00 |
Ng | most recent run died with an https timeout to pypi ;) | 18:00 |
Ng | SpamapS: I'm sort of tempted to ask you if you fancy having a go at a full run, but I know you're super busy on the persistent stuff | 18:00 |
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Ng | rongze: your IRC connection is not very stable :) | 18:11 |
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Ng | (bug #1265807 is the bug that jan found) | 18:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Brady proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: made copy of old file to diff from, added new target to makefile for including an additional cinder block storage node on the overcloud https://review.openstack.org/65124 | 18:20 |
openstackgerrit | Ryan Brady proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: removed block-storage elements out of overcloud-source, added make target to build an overcloud heat template that includes block storage, and modified blcok-storage template to include minimum necessary parameters and resources needed. https://review.openstack.org/65125 | 18:20 |
openstackgerrit | Ryan Brady proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add metadata to add cinder storage node to overcloud https://review.openstack.org/65126 | 18:20 |
SpamapS | Ng: so basically sounds like pip 1.5 is just screwing us over even worse than the gate. | 18:31 |
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SpamapS | I feel like pip using https is a bazillion times more complex than pip using gpg signed tarballs would have been | 18:45 |
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SpamapS | Ng: try building with pypi-openstack | 18:55 |
SpamapS | Ng: that may solve the whole thing. | 18:55 |
SpamapS | Ng: since that eliminates the need for the exceptions on netaddr and netifaces (which.. wtf.. why aren't those secure? DOH) | 18:56 |
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SpamapS | Writing /tmp/easy_install-5lqzPc/warlock-1.1.0/setup.cfg | 19:25 |
SpamapS | Running warlock-1.1.0/setup.py -q bdist_egg --dist-dir /tmp/easy_install-5lqzPc/warlock-1.1.0/egg-dist-tmp-bzXq71 | 19:25 |
SpamapS | /usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py:267: UserWarning: Unknown distribution option: 'install_requires' warnings.warn(msg) | 19:25 |
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SpamapS | fungi: thanks | 19:54 |
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fungi | yw | 19:54 |
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SpamapS | Ng: ^^ confirmed bug 1255128 hit locally | 20:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add pypi-openstack and pip-cache to common elements https://review.openstack.org/65141 | 20:03 |
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SpamapS | waaaait | 20:05 |
SpamapS | why are we doing this | 20:05 |
SpamapS | python setup.py develop --script-dir /usr/local/bin | 20:05 |
SpamapS | that makes.. _zero_ sense. | 20:05 |
* SpamapS tries with pip install . | 20:14 | |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Brady proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add optional cinder storage node to overcloud https://review.openstack.org/62735 | 20:22 |
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SpamapS | mmmm my squid.conf is so damn modern | 20:43 |
SpamapS | refresh_pattern ^gopher: 1440 0% 1440 | 20:43 |
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SpamapS | Why oh why won't it cache those two? | 20:49 |
SpamapS | ah maximum_object_size specified too low doh | 20:53 |
Ng | SpamapS: oh interesting, I'd not spotted pypi-openstack. I left a seed build with pip-cache running in a loop overnight, so if that hasn't managed to fetch everything we need, I'll chuck pypi-openstack in | 20:54 |
SpamapS | Ng: thats working for me | 20:56 |
SpamapS | Ng: now failing because of the call to setup.py develop in openstack-clients | 20:56 |
SpamapS | not sure why we did that insetad of install | 20:56 |
SpamapS | also yay I think I just finally cached linux-firmware | 20:56 |
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matty_dubs | SpamapS: Have you seen http_replicator? I haven't actually worked with it, but I brushed up against talk about it the other day. It seems like it's meant to be like squid, but specifically for longer-term mirroring of content. | 21:01 |
matty_dubs | So I'm in no way recommending it, just curious ;) | 21:02 |
SpamapS | matty_dubs: sounds like approx but maybe less apt-centric | 21:02 |
SpamapS | matty_dubs: squid has been doing a great job.... I just configured it wrong entirely :) | 21:02 |
matty_dubs | Heh, the 'configure it wrong entirely' bit is exactly my experience trying to set up a local proxy for yum, too ;) | 21:03 |
SpamapS | matty_dubs: seems like with the fedora mirros doing client-side load balancing that one needs a smarter yum cacher anyway | 21:04 |
matty_dubs | Well the situation is more bizarre. You can pick a mirror or use a name that's supposed to direct you based on network proximity or something of the sort, but I ended up with a mirror giving me 50kb/sec a while back, which is precisely what led to me setting up a proxy ;) | 21:05 |
SpamapS | yeah | 21:05 |
SpamapS | Ubuntu just comes out of a giant flame-thrower-like pipe in London that is usually able to keep my 50Mbit downstream at least a bit happy. | 21:06 |
Ng | there are several pipes and they are fairly chunky | 21:06 |
Ng | usually at least two 10Gb circuits running, with 2-3 times that for release periods | 21:07 |
SpamapS | yeah one of them sucks though | 21:07 |
SpamapS | and when routes from London <-> Los Angeles get bad | 21:07 |
SpamapS | archive.ubuntu.com becomes 50kB or less | 21:07 |
SpamapS | crap still don't seem to be caching those.. argh | 21:07 |
SpamapS | matty_dubs: ok your tool has made my "next time I'm angry" list :) | 21:07 |
matty_dubs | Haha, I'm yet to set it up myself, but I might do that on one of my home machines soon. | 21:08 |
SpamapS | we've threatened for a while to just have an on-demand-mirror-generator for TripleO kind of like the openstack pypi mirror | 21:08 |
matty_dubs | I found squid's config really bewildering, and wished it could do a conditional get for all content even if it had an expired TTL | 21:09 |
slagle | matty_dubs: some fedora mirrors seem to aggressively throttle as well | 21:09 |
matty_dubs | It's really remarkable how such a basic problem doesn't have seem to have a fantastic solution, at least not cross-distro | 21:09 |
SpamapS | matty_dubs: that is "refresh_all_ims on" | 21:10 |
matty_dubs | SpamapS: Ooh, nice! | 21:10 |
SpamapS | matty_dubs: which I have on, because otherwise, yeah.. it gets confusing | 21:10 |
SpamapS | oooo I may have a working patch | 21:11 |
SpamapS | hm... maybe not | 21:12 |
SpamapS | shebang is /usr/bin/python instead of the virtualenv | 21:12 |
matty_dubs | slagle: Ignoring the myriad reasons it would never fly, I think it would be slick if systems could distribute updates over BitTorrent, versus a handful of sometimes-broken mirrors. | 21:12 |
SpamapS | matty_dubs: interestingly enough, bittorrent came from an idea to distribute games that way.. | 21:14 |
SpamapS | ah shebang works because pip installed into system .. hrm | 21:16 |
matty_dubs | And with Linux, you figure that a lot of the machines are always-on servers on huge pipes. | 21:16 |
SpamapS | matty_dubs: so tripleO is going to eventually leverage some scatter-gather for image based software updates. | 21:16 |
SpamapS | but that will be for a single datacenter | 21:17 |
matty_dubs | Within the DC? | 21:19 |
SpamapS | oh hmm.. | 21:19 |
SpamapS | nova change may have made nova-manage install now.. | 21:19 |
SpamapS | matty_dubs: right | 21:19 |
lifeless | morning | 21:20 |
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SpamapS | weird | 21:42 |
SpamapS | everything in the seed ended up installed into /usr/local/bin | 21:43 |
SpamapS | instead of the per-project venvs | 21:43 |
* SpamapS debugs | 21:43 | |
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SpamapS | ugh | 22:16 |
SpamapS | virtualenv --system-site-packages /opt/stack/venvs/$repo | 22:16 |
* SpamapS wonders how much of a problem that is | 22:16 | |
SpamapS | trying to figure out why openstack-clients does things entirely different from os-svc-install | 22:17 |
lifeless | SpamapS: future refactoring in part | 22:17 |
lifeless | SpamapS: also clients don't need either mysql nor libvirt which were the system packaes we needed | 22:18 |
SpamapS | well it isn't completely different | 22:18 |
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SpamapS | but something really wonky is going on | 22:18 |
SpamapS | lifeless: oh and hi :) | 22:18 |
SpamapS | Is this just maybe a pip 1.5 problem too? | 22:19 |
SpamapS | I see all of the scripts going into /usr/local/bin instead of the activated virtualenv | 22:20 |
lifeless | SpamapS: ugh | 22:20 |
SpamapS | root@ubuntu:~# source /opt/stack/venvs/nova/bin/activate | 22:22 |
SpamapS | (nova)root@ubuntu:~# which pip | 22:22 |
SpamapS | /usr/bin/pip | 22:22 |
SpamapS | well there's yer problem | 22:22 |
SpamapS | no pip in the virtualenv | 22:22 |
SpamapS | Perhaps because of --system-site-packages ? | 22:23 |
SpamapS | which we use for nova because of libvirt | 22:23 |
SpamapS | ok yeah the ones that don't have --system-site-packages worked fine | 22:25 |
lifeless | add a test after we make a venv that it has pip in it? | 22:25 |
SpamapS | lifeless: we definitely don't have pip in --system-site-packages venvs .. seems like maybe new virtualenv is broken | 22:27 |
lifeless | SpamapS: quite possibly; just saying perhaps we should add a check to the tree as the first thing, to cause errors ;) | 22:30 |
Ng | hey lifeless | 22:35 |
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SpamapS | Ok so the pip bug exposes the other bug which only shows up because of system setuptools suckage | 22:37 |
lifeless | Ng: Hey ng | 22:37 |
SpamapS | rather the virtualenv pip bug exposes.. bah | 22:37 |
lifeless | Ng: right beoffore the holiday shutdown you were speculating about what you should be focusing on | 22:38 |
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lifeless | Ng: did you figure out an answer? | 22:38 |
openstackgerrit | Clint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Pin virtualenv to 1.10.1 to work around pip bug https://review.openstack.org/65166 | 22:38 |
SpamapS | untested | 22:38 |
Ng | lifeless: well today and tomorrow I'm in Galway helping some folk bring up tripleo. After that I should help out getting the persistent business moved along | 22:39 |
lifeless | sounds cool to me | 22:40 |
Ng | today was pretty unproductive though | 22:40 |
lifeless | because Galway? | 22:40 |
Ng | lifeless: no, because of multiple different failures/bugs trying to even build a seed image | 22:40 |
lifeless | Ng: ah, the stuff client is hammering on now? | 22:41 |
lifeless | s/client/clint | 22:41 |
Ng | lifeless: also bug 1255128 and lots of pypi hell | 22:41 |
Ng | we figured out some dumb workarounds for those bugs, then either an hp corp proxy or pypi were giving us timeouts | 22:42 |
lifeless | yay | 22:42 |
Ng | one thing this trip has been super useful for, for me, is showing how impossibly crazymaking our bringup is for folk who can't just run devtest and hope for the best | 22:42 |
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Ng | and even if they can just do devtest, it's still likely to explode ;) | 22:43 |
lifeless | thats why I've been pushing the toci stuff to be devtest, not a reimpl of | 22:43 |
lifeless | so we have a common flexible automation that is also documented in detail | 22:43 |
SpamapS | I thought devtest is "developer tool" and toci is "automated test tool" ? | 22:44 |
lifeless | ok brekkie time | 22:44 |
SpamapS | (note that I wish they were the same) | 22:44 |
lifeless | SpamapS: toci /today/ as stuff it shouldn't in it. Conceptually toci is the CI glue we need | 22:44 |
lifeless | SpamapS: devstacke vs devstacke-gate | 22:44 |
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Ng | lifeless: I've said something similar before, but I'm more convinced than ever that we have the structure of the devtest scripts all wrong | 22:46 |
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SpamapS | Ng: oh? | 22:47 |
Ng | imo we should frontload all of the static environment, then have separate pieces for building and launching each stage | 22:47 |
Ng | boot-seed-vm is the wrongest of the wrong, imo | 22:48 |
SpamapS | Ng: isn't that what pleia2 was working on? Running with existing images? | 22:48 |
Ng | if you just want to build a seed image, stripping out the relevant bits from devtest.sh, devtest_seed.sh and boot-seed-vm is a ton of faff | 22:48 |
SpamapS | Oh I see what you're saying | 22:48 |
SpamapS | build ... deploy .. test ... rather than "seed" "under" "over" for structure? | 22:49 |
slagle | sounds like some of my motiviation for having the prebuilt vm images | 22:50 |
Ng | SpamapS: so atm I'm thinking that devtest.sh would do, roughly: 1) source scripts/setup-environment-variables, 2) run scripts/prepare-build-environment, 3) run scripts/build-seed-image, 4) run scripts/launch-seed-image and then repeat steps 3 and 4 for undercloud/overcloud | 22:50 |
slagle | if you just want to do a deployment, getting hung up on building images can really sidetrack you | 22:50 |
Ng | so if you want to just build one part, you just need to source variables, idempotently prepare your build env and run a build-blah-image script | 22:51 |
Ng | ConnectionError: HTTPConnectionPool(host='pypi.openstack.org', port=80): Max retries exceeded with url: /openstack/repoze.lru/ (Caused by <class 'httplib.BadStatusLine'>: '') | 22:53 |
Ng | a horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse | 22:53 |
SpamapS | hrm... my version pin did not work | 22:56 |
Ng | I was trying a run for giggles without the --system-site-packages, but it blew up because pypi is suck | 22:56 |
Ng | but this is part of the deep conern I have from today's work. Our users are going to hate us if builds are randomly flaky because pypi changes all the tiem | 22:57 |
Ng | I vaguely hope that unicorns will save us with global openstack requirements.txt with super-specific version numbers, but.... unicorns | 22:57 |
slagle | i agree with the flaky builds. that's why i proposed offering known good images for download | 22:59 |
openstackgerrit | Clint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Pin virtualenv to 1.10.1 to work around pip bug https://review.openstack.org/65166 | 22:59 |
slagle | plus, building can be expensive | 22:59 |
SpamapS | brain fart | 22:59 |
slagle | seems strange to have to reproduce that on every workstation | 22:59 |
SpamapS | Ng: the --system-site-packages is not the problem. 1.11 is broken | 22:59 |
Ng | slagle: I don't necessarily disagree with providing images, but it does have the problem that if people need to even vary one detail of the build, they are back to being on their own | 22:59 |
Ng | SpamapS: fair enough, I'll snag your fix and give it a run | 23:00 |
SpamapS | https://github.com/pypa/virtualenv/commit/a6ca6f4 | 23:00 |
SpamapS | sounds like release is pending | 23:00 |
SpamapS | https://github.com/pypa/virtualenv/issues/521 | 23:00 |
SpamapS | https://github.com/pypa/virtualenv/issues/521 | 23:00 |
SpamapS | doh | 23:01 |
slagle | Ng: true, but almost all of what might need to be changed ought to be configurable | 23:01 |
slagle | oh, unless you mean using a different version of component, say nova. | 23:01 |
SpamapS | lifeless: hey, squid man. Why am I not caching linux-firmware packages in my squid? http://paste.openstack.org/show/60517 | 23:02 |
Ng | slagle: or even just needing to add some element for a network driver | 23:02 |
SpamapS | they're 25MB | 23:02 |
SpamapS | well below (I think) my maximum_object_size of 104857600 | 23:03 |
Ng | slagle: I'm thinking more about the people who have a few real servers in a lab and want to spin up their first tripleo | 23:03 |
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Ng | slagle: (since that's what I'm trying to shepherd on this trip ;) | 23:03 |
slagle | Ng: yea, true. i'm thinking mostly from the developer standpoint of just getting something stood up | 23:04 |
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Ng | SpamapS: you win some unicorn shavings, seed image just built | 23:17 |
SpamapS | Ng: yaaaaaaaaay | 23:18 |
SpamapS | Ng: thanks, I've been sitting here waiting for linux-firmware to download over and over | 23:19 |
SpamapS | still fan't figure out how to make squid cache it | 23:19 |
SpamapS | have raised maximum_object_size to 1G now :-P | 23:19 |
Ng | ouch | 23:19 |
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SpamapS | but looks like my seed just built and didn't screw up the virtualenv pip too :) | 23:20 |
Ng | woot, undercloud image built too | 23:31 |
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SpamapS | well thanks virtualenv 1.10 for wasting a whole day :-P | 23:39 |
SpamapS | err | 23:39 |
SpamapS | 1.11 | 23:39 |
SpamapS | thanks 1.10 for making it _ONLY_ one day | 23:39 |
Ng | SpamapS: did you hack in Jan's --fuck-security patch into os-svc-install to get your builds going? | 23:40 |
Ng | afaict that bug is universally reproducible atm, in that I have seen it on three different systems/networks today | 23:40 |
SpamapS | Ng: no what's that? | 23:42 |
Ng | SpamapS: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1265807 | 23:42 |
Ng | " Some externally hosted files were ignored (use --allow-external to allow). | 23:43 |
Ng | " | 23:43 |
SpamapS | Oh that is bug 1266513 | 23:43 |
Ng | I dislike errors like that. Tell me which urls! | 23:43 |
SpamapS | hm uvirtbot is MIA | 23:43 |
SpamapS | Ng: that bug is mitigated by using pypi-openstack | 23:44 |
SpamapS | Ng: because pypi-openstack has netaddr | 23:44 |
Ng | hmm | 23:45 |
Ng | I am using both, but I didn't specifically test pypi-openstack without the --lol-https patch, so I'll do a run tomorrow without that | 23:45 |
SpamapS | yeah shouldn't you be sleeping? | 23:45 |
SpamapS | or drinking? | 23:46 |
Ng | (and yes, I wish this was all http+gpg, it would also make proxy traversal *so* much easier) | 23:46 |
SpamapS | or both? | 23:46 |
SpamapS | Ng: even if they had just made the central pypi upload mirror auto-sign... better than https. :-P | 23:46 |
Ng | SpamapS: the drinking is done, I should indeed sleep, but I want to see if I can shepherd this devtest run through on my home workstation, so tomorrow I can at least show the guys here a working system, even if we fail to bring their hardware up | 23:46 |
Ng | SpamapS: indeed | 23:46 |
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