| jog0 | If I try to investigate every transient failur I get I will never get anything done | 00:00 |
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| lifeless | jog0: which los is my point | 00:02 |
| lifeless | jog0: like, do you mean 'on aserver' or 'irc discussion' or <...> ? | 00:03 |
| jog0 | lifeless: your refering to does anyone look at log files? I mean during development before deployment | 00:04 |
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| lifeless | jog0: e.g. on devstack? | 00:12 |
| jog0 | yeah | 00:13 |
| jog0 | so during development we ignore the usefulnes of logs and don't -1 patches that hurt that ina a clear way | 00:13 |
| jog0 | such as erroneous stactraces or warnings everyhwere | 00:14 |
| lifeless | we probably should :0 | 00:14 |
| jog0 | exactly | 00:14 |
| SpamapS | that is highly automatable. | 00:14 |
| jog0 | thats why we nee a log file anomaly detector. to highlight how someting chagnes | 00:14 |
| SpamapS | but.. not "easy" | 00:14 |
| jog0 | SpamapS: key word: *is*, future tense | 00:15 |
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| lifeless | deep neural networks ftw | 00:17 |
| SpamapS | jog0: it is not easy, but it should be simple and straight forward. The issue is that it will be a lot of manual work until we are at the point where we have identified all of the acceptible log patterns. | 00:17 |
| lifeless | ok, time for my 3 techcon papers | 00:17 |
| jog0 | I think there is prior work on this one | 00:18 |
| SpamapS | jog0: but it would likely help catch and analyze problems. | 00:18 |
| SpamapS | grep out all the things you know are "meh" | 00:18 |
| jog0 | first step is help ddkranz gate on traecbacks | 00:18 |
| SpamapS | then of those that are left, you need to look at each set and make a rule for each.. once you're at "all that are acceptible" you just have to start doing more rules for new log patterns. | 00:19 |
| SpamapS | ok I'm talking a bit too much about stuff I'm not planning to help with | 00:19 |
| SpamapS | :) | 00:19 |
| * SpamapS will try to get sleep tonight to prepare for a nova deep dive tomorrow | 00:19 | |
| jog0 | SpamapS: you can do datamining style training since we have a curpus of 'good' data | 00:22 |
| jog0 | SpamapS: what in nova are you diving into? | 00:22 |
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| toci-bot | ERROR during toci run, see http://54.228.118.193/toci/toci_logs_2twCk0F/ | 05:15 |
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| GheRivero | morning TripleO | 07:34 |
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| ogelbukh | rpodolyaka: hi ) | 07:52 |
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| GheRivero | morning | 09:10 |
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| Ng | hey GheRivero :) | 09:15 |
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| lifeless | Ng: GheRivero: morning | 09:22 |
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| Ng | hey lifeless | 09:22 |
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| lifeless | Ng: bug report on your troubleshooting patc in HP email :) | 09:24 |
| Ng | huh | 09:25 |
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| lifeless | yeah, I know, right :) | 09:25 |
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| rpodolyaka | should environment variables take precedence of positional arguments values or vice versa? :) | 11:29 |
| ogelbukh | vice versa | 11:30 |
| shadower | rpodolyaka: vice versa feels more right -- you go from less explicit to more explicit | 11:30 |
| rpodolyaka | thanks! | 11:30 |
| ogelbukh | more interesting though should configuration parameters override env vars ) | 11:31 |
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| shadower | ogelbukh: I think you dropped a verb there. What did you mean? | 11:32 |
| ogelbukh | sorry | 11:34 |
| ogelbukh | i mean i wonder which should go first, conf file param or env var | 11:34 |
| shadower | ah | 11:34 |
| shadower | conf file I think | 11:34 |
| ogelbukh | me too ) | 11:35 |
| shadower | global conf file < user-specific conf < env var < cli args | 11:35 |
| shadower | that's how it's usually done I believe | 11:35 |
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| ogelbukh | nice | 11:35 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: any chance you can pickup where Ng has left off ? | 18:02 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: with the moonshot folk? | 18:02 |
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| Ng | lifeless: heh, beat me to asking the same question | 18:02 |
| Ng | it's super weird that ahci.ko didn't get loaded or then create /dev/sda | 18:02 |
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| lifeless | IMO this is likely the bug that calxeda folk have with 13.10 | 18:04 |
| * SpamapS will pick it up yes | 18:06 | |
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| lifeless | meeting in 5 | 18:53 |
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| * rpodolyaka1 grabs a cup of tea | 18:54 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Marios Andreou proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Make sure we have tripleo-heat-templates at tuskar startup https://review.openstack.org/49745 | 19:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Switch from quantum to neutron in nova.conf. https://review.openstack.org/57249 | 19:27 |
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| pleia2 | dprince: I go between "woo, one less hour of meetings per week" to "amagad 2 meetings!!11" | 19:39 |
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| dprince | rpodolyaka1: So the difference between my local dev setup and the normal devtest story at the moment is: 1) I'm using baremetal machines (connected via a switch), 2) using the all-in-one overcloud template | 19:59 |
| dprince | rpodolyaka1: The overcloud actually comes up fine... and like I said I can access it fine from within the seed VM. But externally it is inaccessible. | 19:59 |
| jog0 | lifeless: with the state of the gate, I will have to punt on the nova rebuild patches, as even if I did them it would be hard to land them | 20:00 |
| lifeless | dprince: so we use NeutronPublicInterfaceDefaultRoute= to configure the physical default router | 20:01 |
| lifeless | dprince: in the DC overcloud | 20:01 |
| lifeless | dprince: see ncubator/scripts/devtest_overcloud.sh + elements/tripleo-cd/tripleo-cd.sh | 20:01 |
| dprince | lifeless: okay. I had just noticed it before the meeting. | 20:01 |
| dprince | lifeless: really trying to get this working today though :) | 20:01 |
| lifeless | dprince: sure | 20:02 |
| dprince | lifeless: Let me respin my overcloud and give you more details. | 20:02 |
| dprince | lifeless: I actually booted a vanilla instance to see if it was pingable (it was) | 20:02 |
| lifeless | dprince: maybe put up a physical topology description in etherpad? | 20:02 |
| lifeless | e.g. machines, networks, switches, routers, expected traffic flow | 20:02 |
| dprince | lifeless: would you have a look if I give you shell access? | 20:03 |
| lifeless | dprince: certainly, once my morning of meetings is over | 20:03 |
| dprince | lifeless: cool | 20:03 |
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| NobodyCam | lifeless: SpamapS os-apply-config question is there a clean way to append to files like nova.conf, Say from an nova-ironic element? | 20:14 |
| lifeless | no | 20:14 |
| lifeless | you change the reference nova.conf in the nova element, and make the ironic bits optional - like the current baremetal bits are. | 20:15 |
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| dprince | NobodyCam: we need a nova.d directory! | 20:15 |
| NobodyCam | ok :) wanted to check befor I endded up in left field | 20:15 |
| NobodyCam | dprince: ++ | 20:16 |
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| dprince | lifeless: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dans-tripleo-setup | 20:49 |
| dprince | lifeless: I'm wondering if this is a bug in my new all-in-one setup | 20:49 |
| lifeless | dprince: can you document the network topolofy? | 20:50 |
| lifeless | I'm wondering how 192.168.122.1 is getting onto the network, given you have real machines | 20:50 |
| lifeless | and it's a libvirt only bridge | 20:50 |
| dprince | lifeless: my seed is using that | 20:50 |
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| dprince | lifeless: network info added to the top... | 20:54 |
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| lifeless | jog0: oh hai! | 21:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | ripal-nathuji proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix issue with Ubuntu grub pre-install step for ARM https://review.openstack.org/57064 | 21:38 |
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| jog0 | lifeless: o/ | 21:52 |
| lifeless | also I meant jamezpolley: oh hai! ;) | 21:53 |
| jamezpolley | Morning :) | 21:53 |
| lifeless | jog0: how goes rebuild? | 21:57 |
| jog0 | lifeless: http://paste.openstack.org/show/53572/ | 21:59 |
| jog0 | lifeless: which is to say I would like to focus on that that graph shows | 21:59 |
| lifeless | jog0: ok | 21:59 |
| lifeless | jog0: so I think you should tell the team that you're not hacking on rebuild, so other people can pick it up | 21:59 |
| jog0 | aka gate doesn't actually gate well | 22:00 |
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| jog0 | lifeless: agreed, I got your patch passing the tests and commented on the next step in there | 22:00 |
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| jog0 | lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54308/ | 22:01 |
| jog0 | lifeless: I updated trello and am happy to provide review and any feedback on this | 22:02 |
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| jog0 | but at least for now the gate is larger issue | 22:02 |
| lifeless | jog0: great, thanks. | 22:07 |
| rpodolyaka1 | I'm going to dive into rebuild this week. Due to being side-tracked with a few bugs and DB stuff, I didn't spend much time on this last week, mostly read the code of Nova and reviewed jog0 patches to get familiar | 22:07 |
| rpodolyaka1 | night all | 22:13 |
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| lifeless | cool | 22:18 |
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| toci-bot | ERROR during toci run, see http://54.228.118.193/toci/toci_logs_429RuJ4/ | 22:57 |
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| mordred | look, it's a jamezpolley | 23:34 |
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