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| openstackgerrit | Yuuichi Fujioka proposed openstack/tacker: Fix to don't enable some neutron services https://review.openstack.org/282923 | 00:37 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: bobh: hi folks - can you please review this cherrypick https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285587/ | 01:33 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: I'll look at it tonight | 01:34 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram, bobh: does that mean I can't merge it before :-) ? (it already has a +2) :-) | 01:34 |
| bobh | s3wong: all yours :-) | 01:35 |
| s3wong | :-) | 01:35 |
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| gongysh | sridhar_ram, hi | 02:53 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: hi ! | 02:54 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, I am thinking about the tosca support in tacker. | 02:54 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, in fact, long ago, IBM guys tried to implement it in heat. | 02:54 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: they are still involved in tosca-parser & heat-translator projects | 02:55 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, so it seems tacker is just another API for heat. heat currently has heat-api, heat cloud format api. | 02:56 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, so if it is implemented in heat, heat should have heat-tosca-api. | 02:56 |
| sridhar_ram | heat is just resource orchestrator... TOSCA is one level higher, it has overall life cycle which doesn't belong in heat | 02:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Bob Haddleton proposed openstack/tacker-specs: Spec for tosca-parser/heat-translator integration https://review.openstack.org/275475 | 03:01 |
| sridhar_ram | Heat models various openstack resources in HOT. TOSCA models network services and fwiw it could Orchestrate even whatever underlying cloud - even beyond OpenStack - say AWS. | 03:02 |
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| tbh | sripriya, Hi | 04:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yuuichi Fujioka proposed openstack/tacker: Fix to don't enable some neutron services https://review.openstack.org/282923 | 04:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | vishwanath jayaraman proposed openstack/tacker-specs: Enhanced VNF placements blue print https://review.openstack.org/257847 | 05:02 |
| openstackgerrit | vishwanath jayaraman proposed openstack/tacker-specs: Enhanced VNF placements blue print https://review.openstack.org/257847 | 05:04 |
| openstackgerrit | vishwanath jayaraman proposed openstack/tacker-specs: Enhanced VNF placements blue print https://review.openstack.org/257847 | 05:06 |
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| sridhar_ram1 | tbh: gongysh: ping | 06:08 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram1, Hi | 06:08 |
| sridhar_ram1 | tbh: gongysh: do you've few mins for a quick sync up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250291 ? | 06:08 |
| sridhar_ram1 | I'd like to converge soon as we don't have much time... | 06:09 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram1, looking into gongysh comments | 06:09 |
| sridhar_ram1 | tbh: sure | 06:09 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram1, I believe we are not considering the metadata for flavor/image in this spec | 06:12 |
| sridhar_ram1 | tbh: gongysh: is this essential for glance image handling ? it doesn't look sound like to me | 06:13 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram1, I agree, because we are creating the images using HOT, and giving metadata like distribution of OS is not needed I believe | 06:15 |
| tbh | gongysh, ^^ | 06:16 |
| sridhar_ram1 | tbh: one thing you may want to explicitly state - actually acknowledge - images will be uploaded as part of VNF instantiation and deleted with VNF deletion. This feature is not applicable for use-case were a VNF will be instantiated 100s of times. | 06:16 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram1, this feature, you mean supporting metadata? | 06:18 |
| sridhar_ram1 | no, gongysh also had a concern about image size | 06:18 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram1, Ok, but if we use HOT to upload images, we can have same images uploaded multiple times | 06:19 |
| sridhar_ram1 | tbh: yes, that is of course a concern but other options are even more complicated and convoluted | 06:21 |
| sridhar_ram1 | gongysh: you there ? | 06:21 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram1, yeah, so that's why for a quick start we opted this option and modify this feature based on issues we will face | 06:22 |
| sridhar_ram1 | tbh: yes, there is always the other - pre-upload to glance and use the glance image name option is always available | 06:24 |
| sridhar_ram1 | tbh: future iterations of this can consider to push hardcorded URLs in VNFD creation time.. that is for later | 06:24 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram1, yes | 06:25 |
| sridhar_ram1 | tbh: can you please respond to gongysh with these points.. I've a minor nit, btw | 06:25 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram1, gongysh left the channel | 06:25 |
| tbh | sure sridhar_ram1 | 06:25 |
| sridhar_ram1 | yeah, respond in the gerritt review | 06:25 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram1, let me know your nit too | 06:26 |
| gongysh | tbh, sridhar_ram1 hi, I was on meeting just now. | 06:26 |
| sridhar_ram1 | gongysh: hi there.. np! | 06:26 |
| gongysh | tbh, sridhar_ram1 metadata of image and flavor is important for nova scheduling | 06:27 |
| sridhar_ram1 | gongysh: will give few mins to catchup ! | 06:27 |
| gongysh | tbh, sridhar_ram1 another concern is the size and variety of image. | 06:27 |
| gongysh | tbh, sridhar_ram1, but it is not big one. | 06:28 |
| gongysh | tbh, sridhar_ram1 user can choose. | 06:28 |
| sridhar_ram1 | gongysh: exactly.. | 06:28 |
| sridhar_ram1 | gongysh: lets discuss the flavor metadata - | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram1 | are you referring to extra_specs ? | 06:29 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram1, it should be | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram1 | but extra-specs are taken care in the EPA spec.. the one you and vishwanathj are working .. | 06:30 |
| sridhar_ram1 | that is out for scope for tbh's spec | 06:30 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram1, if you think it is, we can make EPA spec to depend on it. and let EPA do it. | 06:30 |
| sridhar_ram1 | gongysh: that was my understanding ... | 06:31 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram1, then I am ok with the this spec. | 06:31 |
| sridhar_ram1 | how about glance metadata ? | 06:31 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram1, yes, I have the feeling to make EPA to depend on the auto spec. | 06:31 |
| sridhar_ram1 | gongysh: make sense .. mark it in the launchpad | 06:32 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram1, for glance metadata, we can do the same thing, make other spec which needs this feature to do it. | 06:32 |
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| vishwanathj | would appreciate if someone reviewed the log http://logs.openstack.org/47/257847/10/check/gate-tacker-specs-docs/732295c/console.html and tell me what is the unexpected indentation in line 156 for patchset https://review.openstack.org/257847 | 06:33 |
| * sridhar_ram1 looking up EVP spec for glance metadata | 06:33 | |
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| gongysh | vishwanathj, I am checking | 06:34 |
| sridhar_ram1 | gongysh: give me an example of glance metadata needed for EPA spec ? | 06:34 |
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| gongysh | sridhar_ram1, I am wondering if we will use it in EPA | 06:36 |
| sridhar_ram1 | gongysh: yeah, I thought nova flavor extra_specs should cover all of them | 06:37 |
| sridhar_ram1 | tbh: just pushed the minor comment.. | 06:39 |
| sridhar_ram1 | tbh: can you fix it now (if possible) ? | 06:40 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram1, yes updating now.. | 06:41 |
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| gongysh | sridhar_ram1, is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tacker on? | 06:48 |
| sridhar_ram1 | gongysh: sorry I didn't get the question .. that link is our official wiki and it is quite dated and badly needs to be fixed up :( | 06:52 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram1, ok, got it. | 06:53 |
| sridhar_ram1 | zeih: howdy! we made it into big tent :) | 06:53 |
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| zeih | sridhar_ram: yeah!! :) | 06:54 |
| zeih | sridhar_ram: good morning :) | 06:54 |
| openstackgerrit | bharaththiruveedula proposed openstack/tacker-specs: Automatic resource creation for Tacker https://review.openstack.org/250291 | 06:54 |
| zeih | I will have a look into the meeting logs | 06:54 |
| sridhar_ram | zeih: good morning ! it had a thrilling finish ! | 06:55 |
| zeih | sridhar_ram: I can imagine | 06:55 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram1, that's a good news! | 06:56 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: sorry, I some how that you caught up w/ that news! | 06:57 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, oh I just came to know | 06:58 |
| sridhar_ram | the project had a good standing w.r.t diversity and our open culture.... thanks for this amazing community | 06:58 |
| sridhar_ram | *thanks to | 06:58 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: just +2'd your spec.. please reach out to bobh for the 2nd +2 | 06:59 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, sure | 06:59 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: we are all now official ATCs ! | 07:00 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, yeah! | 07:00 |
| * sripriya_ notes an acronym ;) | 07:01 | |
| zeih | ;) | 07:01 |
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| gongysh | sridhar_ram, *official * happens 10 hours ago. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276417/ | 07:04 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, right? | 07:04 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: yep | 07:04 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, congrats! | 07:05 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, I will let our marketing dept promote this message. | 07:05 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: thanks! this is a huge milestone.. we came a long way in the last 8 - 10months | 07:05 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, about the deprecation, I think our current process is not odd. or not consistent with other projects. | 07:06 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: you are good w/ this one as a one off ? | 07:07 |
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| gongysh | sridhar_ram, deprecate it in the trunk, and then we can remove it in one release away | 07:07 |
| zeih | sridhar_ram: Can you send a announcement to openstack dev and operators ML regarding Bit Tent? | 07:09 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: as I explained this was an API that was a left over from servicevm days and it is infact seems to be broken | 07:09 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: there is no point in maintaining it, even in deprecated state, in Mitaka... | 07:10 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, then that is not deprecation, it is just "removing" the broken codes. | 07:10 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: frankly we could've very well did that.. just that we are doing this with a bit of a caution.. | 07:11 |
| sripriya_ | vishwanathj: can you put the spec in etherpad or a pastelink . i can try to look at the error | 07:11 |
| zeih | sridhar_ram: gongysh: we should get rid of all servicevm code.. it is confusing and not needed anymore. therefore we should not follow standard deprecation policys | 07:11 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: also it serves as a deprecation dry run ;-) | 07:11 |
| sridhar_ram | zeih: ++ | 07:12 |
| sridhar_ram | next thing in the chopping block is tacker/openstack/common | 07:12 |
| vishwanathj | http://paste.openstack.org/show/488905/ | 07:12 |
| sridhar_ram | we need to migrate to oslo | 07:12 |
| zeih | sridhar_ram: +1 | 07:12 |
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| sripriya_ | vishwanathj: did you try putting them in code blocks? | 07:15 |
| sripriya_ | starts with a :: | 07:16 |
| zeih | Do someone know how to get an article on http://superuser.openstack.org/ regarding Bit Tent? | 07:17 |
| gongysh | vishwanathj, I think so | 07:17 |
| gongysh | vishwanathj, just like the way we do it in https://github.com/openstack/tacker/blob/master/doc/source/install/getting_started.rst | 07:20 |
| vishwanathj | However, I am curious as to what's the identation issue in the log | 07:21 |
| sridhar_ram | zeih: reach out to Kathy Cacciatore <kathyc@openstack.org> in the OpenStack Foundation Marketing team | 07:22 |
| openstackgerrit | vishwanath jayaraman proposed openstack/tacker-specs: Enhanced VNF placements blue print https://review.openstack.org/257847 | 07:31 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: any further thoughts on device deprecation ? | 07:36 |
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| gongysh | sridhar_ram, can we write a bug or bp on it, and assign one to coordinate it? | 07:45 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: hmm.. for which issue ? | 07:46 |
| gongysh | vishwanathj_zzz, do u have the time to format the EVP bp with code block? if not, I can do it. | 07:46 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, about the device API, the device client, the device code | 07:47 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: there was a bug opened sometime back for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1543393 | 07:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1543393 in tacker "Deprecate and remove device API and CLI from Tacker" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to dharmendra (dharmendra-kushwaha) | 07:48 |
| openstackgerrit | vishwanath jayaraman proposed openstack/tacker-specs: Enhanced VNF placements blue print https://review.openstack.org/257847 | 07:48 |
| vishwanathj_zzz | gongysh I have made one more attempt to fix the issue, if it does not work, would appreciate if you can format...thanks for the offer of help | 07:49 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, that seems good. | 07:50 |
| gongysh | vishwanathj_zzz, great. wait for the result. | 07:50 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, hi. Is there any RFE bug created to display runtime VNF instance details in Horizon GUI? | 07:51 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: not yet.. it is in my backlog | 07:51 |
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| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, Can you please let me know, what informations are required to display. | 07:53 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: we are in a odd situation where the device deprecation on the client side already merged earlier today - https://review.openstack.org/280055 | 07:53 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: we really need to just proceed w/ the server side deprecation changes | 07:54 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: let me take couple of mins to write one up... it really needs some discussion which we can have in launchpad | 07:55 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, ok, Thanks. | 07:55 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, on master, I think we can just remove the device related codes since we deprecate it in liberty. what is your idea? | 07:55 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: exactly .. dkushwaha has couple of patchsets lined up already for that.. | 07:56 |
| * sridhar_ram looking them up | 07:56 | |
| sridhar_ram | https://review.openstack.org/279382 (tackerclient) and https://review.openstack.org/283414 (for the server) | 07:57 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, gongysh kindly review these ^ patches too. | 08:00 |
| vishwanathj_zzz | gongysh FYI jenkins passed for the EVP patch set | 08:03 |
| gongysh | vishwanathj_zzz, great | 08:03 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: just created https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1552122 for VNF runtime details in Horizon.. | 08:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1552122 in tacker "Display VNF instance details in Tacker Horizon GUI" [Undecided,New] | 08:05 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: it is just a starter btw, I'm bit fried as it is quite late here.. | 08:06 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, you should take a coffe or go to bed now. | 08:06 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj_zzz: do you've a clone of yourself working this late at night (2AM ?) | 08:06 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: prefer the bed option :) | 08:07 |
| vishwanathj_zzz | I am looking forward to the spring break time off and catch up on some sleep | 08:07 |
| sridhar_ram | I think our friend vishwanathj_zzz is actually "sleep working" ;-) | 08:07 |
| vishwanathj_zzz | I am on PTO march 14, march 17, 18th...hipefully that will be a good break | 08:08 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj_zzz: yeah, classic cramming before the big event... | 08:08 |
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| gongysh | sripriya_, hi | 09:04 |
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| psousa | hi all, | 12:24 |
| psousa | can anybody tell me if tacker supports service function chaining and how this can be done? thanks | 12:24 |
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| Liuqing | HELLO， | 13:48 |
| Liuqing | is this openstack tacker irc channel? | 13:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Liuqing Jing proposed openstack/tacker-horizon: Remove deprecated models.py https://review.openstack.org/287198 | 13:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Liuqing Jing proposed openstack/tacker: Change the mode of devstack plugin.sh https://review.openstack.org/287220 | 14:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Liuqing Jing proposed openstack/tacker: Update DevStack REAMDE https://review.openstack.org/287228 | 14:29 |
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| sridhar_ram | howdy tackers! we starting this new day as a big tent project team... #ex ited | 18:23 |
| sridhar_ram | #excited | 18:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | dharmendra kushwaha proposed openstack/python-tackerclient: Code clean-up in client.py https://review.openstack.org/287374 | 18:36 |
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| vishwanathj_ | bobh sridhar_ram would appreciate your review of https://review.openstack.org/257847 | 19:22 |
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| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj_: sure | 19:39 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: here is one before vishwanathj_'s in the food chain - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250291/ | 19:40 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: tbh's auto-resource creation... | 19:40 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: ok, I'll put them in the queue - probably won't get to it until tonight | 19:51 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: the tosca-parser/heat-translator spec is updated | 19:51 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: did an initial pass of tosca-parser, nothing specific popped up.. will finish later today | 19:52 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: thanks. 0.4.0 heat-translator has been tagged so I need to add it to global infra so we can use it and then I should have a new patchset to try | 19:53 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: cool.. | 19:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yuuichi Fujioka proposed openstack/tacker: Fix to don't enable some neutron services https://review.openstack.org/282923 | 23:53 |
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